Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

JEEP

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Putin Gives Edward Snowden Russian Citizenship: State Media​

Per the official Russian presidential decree...

"In accordance with paragraph 'a' of Article 89 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, I decide: to accept the following persons in the citizenship of the Russian Federation: Edward Joseph Snowden, born June 21, 1983, in the United States of America."

This is an absolutely huge development and big and consequential Kremlin thumb in the eye to Washington at a moment the two sides are inching closer to direct confrontation and war in Ukraine. The decree is sure to spiral tensions further already at a moment Washington is mulling yet more expanded sanctions.

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According to Russia's Sputnik, "Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has also confirmed that Russian citizenship was granted to Snowden at the latter's request."
 

SOTTREADER

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Yes, I don't think anyone should look down on people who refuse / don't want to be drafted into a military to fight or get involved somehow. There will always be enough people to go to war and kill/slaughter each other, each thinking they are right and the other is wrong. The pattern has been consistent throughout human history and I doubt it'll change now. As an individual on this specific journey I find that the aim should be to navigate and live life so that one isn't overtaken by such events. The ultimate war is through us - it is not fought in ditches or with bullets and bombs.
 

Ocean

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The USA appears to have followed through on President Biden's threats and attacked Europe's energy lifelines in an attempt to keep the Europeans from preserving themselves by surrendering to Russia.


The US Shuts Off Europe's Lights - Vox Popoli

The US Shuts Off Europe’s Lights​

Less than 24 hours after Nord Stream 2 abruptly went down, Nord Stream 1 has been sabotaged as well.
Yesterday evening, pressure in the undersea Nord Stream 2 pipeline suddenly collapsed, and gas could be seen bubbling to the surface of the Baltic Sea near the Danish island of Bornholm. Shortly afterwards, reports came of a total collapse in the pressure of our other major undersea pipeline connection to Russia, Nord Stream 1, indicating a further rupture.
Government officials assume that the damage is intentional, and the result of an attack by foreign forces:
Due to the timing, the fact that three separate pipelines were affected, and the severe pressure losses in Nord Stream 1, officials expect the worst. “We can no longer imagine any scenario other than a targeted attack,” said a person privy to the assessment by the federal government and federal authorities. They added: “Everything speaks against a coincidence.”
Such an attack on the seabed would be anything but trivial; it would have to be carried out with special forces – for example, by navy divers or a submarine, people informed of initial assessments said.
With regard to responsibility for the alleged attacks, two possibilities are being discussed. First, according to initial speculation, Ukrainian or Ukrainian-affiliated forces could be responsible. With the temporary shutdown of the Nord Stream pipelines, gas deliveries from Russia to Germany and Central Europe would only be possible via the Yamal pipelinje running through Poland or the Ukrainian pipeline network.

The piece that I’ve bolded is of course a lightly disguised reference to the United States or NATO. This should surprise nobody: President Biden said in early February that in the event of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, “there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2, we will bring an end to it.”
These are clear and obvious acts of war, not only against Russia, but against Western Europe as well. And not only is the Unidentified State Actor the primary suspect, with the means and the motivation to destroy the pipelines, but the Commander-in-Chief of the US military publicly threatened to do what has apparently been done.

Gonzalo Lira is absolutely right. This is the modern equivalent of Cortez burning his ships upon arrival in the New World. Occam’s Razor strongly suggests that the global imperialists headquartered in the USA are attempting to prevent the Europeans from surrendering to Russia and thereby freeing themselves from the satanic New World Order.

“Now I realize that the Americans will stop at nothing to destroy all of their allies. Because what’s really happening is that the global American empire is collapsing and they are lashing out in all directions.”

At this point, every nation on Earth would have to be crazy to cooperate with the US government in any way, much less comply with its demands. This destruction of Europe’s energy lifelines underlines the truth of Henry Kissinger’s famous aphorism: “To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”

DISCUSS ON SG
 

thorbiorn

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Leaks in three location of Nord Stream 1 and 2 "Everything speaks against a coincidence"
The NS 2 was build, first the Germans delayed it, and now they can't use it, even if they wanted. That the leaks came in that order NS 2, one leak and then NS 1 two leaks is perhaps significant, but it is too early to say. Below are more details:

From a Danish State Media source:
Total of three leaks
Climate-, Energy - and Forsyningsministeriet confirms that there is total found three leaks in gas pipelines Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2. There are two leaks on the Nord Stream 1 and one leak on the Nord Stream 2.

The leaks occurred, respectively northeast and southeast of the island of Bornholm.
Nord Stream 2 is not in operation, but contains natural gas, which is now leaking out of Bornholm. Nord Stream 1 is not in operation, but containing a gas, informs climate, energy and supply minster, Dan Jørgensen (S).
The Danish maritime authority has issued a navigationsvarsel and created a prohibited zone for ships. The zone has a radius of 5 nautical miles (equivalent to slightly more than 9 kilometers) to the ships and a prohibited zones for planes of 1 kilometer.

According to the DEA, ships can lose buoyancy if they are travelling into the area, and there may be a risk of fire over the water and in the air.
Is the Danish explanation a smoke screen
Since gas goes to the top in a straight line from a leak, that should be easy to locate. Moreover, if there is no longer any significant pressure, there is no longer any gas worth mentioning. Are they throwing a smokescreen?
From a Danish paper:
On Monday, there was found a gas leak southeast of Bornholm in the baltic gas pipeline, which authorities consider to get from Nord Stream 2.

Tuesday has the perception of the problem changed. Now, there are thus also discovered two leaks on the original Nord Stream gas pipeline. Both of these on the original connection has occurred to the northeast of Bornholm. One of these leak is in Swedish waters, while the second is in the Danish waters. This was stated by a spokesman for the Swedish søfartsstyrelse, Sjöfartsverket, to Reuters.
So two leaks in Danish waters and one in Sweden.
Here are the two gas lines:
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The area of the leak, though this was only for NS2, so another circle needs to be drawn to the north-east:
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The leaks happened on shallow water, 25-50 fathoms, a unit of 1.8288 meters, so around 46-92 meters
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Here is the explanation of the colours:
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The Wiki has:
On 26 September 2022, unexplained large pressure drops have been reported in both NS1 and NS2 pipelines, as well as a located gas leak in Danish waters from NS2 late on 26 September. Berliner Zeitung newspaper has asked if it is sabotage.[1]
The German Berliner Zeitung wrote:
Pressure drop now also in Nord Stream 1: Was it sabotage?
A few hours after the gas leak on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, Nord Stream 1 is also reporting massive problems. According to a report, there are indications of targeted attacks.
updated BLZ, dpa, 26.9.2022updated 27.09.2022 - 00:27 a.m

The operator of the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline has noticed a pressure drop in the German-Russian energy route. Both tubes are affected, a spokesman for the company told the German Press Agency. According to market information that is mandatory for network operators, the capacity of the pipeline has unexpectedly dropped to zero.

Such a pressure drop had already been detected in the Nord Stream 2 sister pipeline on Monday night. During the course of Monday, the responsible naval authorities identified a leak south-east of the Danish island of Bornholm as the probable cause.
And further down:
According to the Tagesspiegel, the Nord Stream pipelines could have been damaged by targeted attacks. The newspaper quotes an 'insider' who is involved in the assessment by the federal government and federal authorities. 'Everything speaks against a coincidence,' the insider said, according to the report. 'Our imagination no longer produces a scenario that is not a targeted attack.' It is said that such an attack or act of sabotage is not a trivial process, but must be carried out, for example, by special forces or with the help of a submarine.
Any suspects?
Russia has nothing to gain, they just don't let the gas flow, if they are not interested in business. Besides, Russia also most to loose, as they own most of the line, next is Germany.

Here is a list of Nord Stream 1 and 2 project companies from the Wiki
Nord Stream 1 is operated by the special-purpose company Nord Stream AG, incorporated in Zug, Switzerland on 30 November 2005. Shareholders of the company are the Russian gas company Gazprom (51% of shares), the German companies Wintershall Dea and PEG Infrastruktur AG (E.ON) (both 15.5%), the Dutch gas company Gasunie (9%), and the French gas company Engie (9%).[27][39] The chairman of the shareholders' committee is German ex-chancellor Gerhard Schröder.
Nord Stream 2 is developed and planned to be operated by Nord Stream 2 AG, which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Gazprom.[68]
From Topwar.ru
Apparently, the "beneficiaries" of such sabotage may be Kyiv, Warsaw and Washington.
In the list they forgot the UK, independent and contracted actors. There is also the odd anomaly that the German MoD expressed greater commitment to Ukraine than to her own citizens. Now protesters can go home, as the gas will not be turned on anytime soon, and their Government can do little for now, no matter how much AfD Alice Weidel and Die Linke, Sahra Wagenknecht suggest to turn on the line. At least Topwar.ru believes the sabotage precludes any gas will flow through the pipes this winter. I don't know how much damage the pipes can suffer from salty water and no pressure, or how difficult such lines are to repair, or if anyone would even bother, considering the vagueness of the situation.

Regarding Denmark and Russia
Denmark delayed the NS 2 project, they were delaying it as much as they could reasonably do, and a bit more:

From June 29, 2019:
The Nord Stream 2 project had filed an application with Danish authorities, but the Danish authorities did not give a response even after the company waited two years:
Finally, on Oct 30, 2019::
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and his Danish counterpart, Jeppe Kofod, discussed the situation around Denmark's permit for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline’s construction in the country's territorial waters when they met in New York in September.

Sputniknews

The US suffers a political loss here, along with Poland and Ukraine, who have been trying to kill the Nordstream 2 project despite its huge investment and having a consortium of EU company partners building and distributing the gas.
Let's see how it develops. The US would like to put soldiers on Bornholm, and the leaks happened to the south-east and north-east, so is militarizing the island what they have in mind?
 

Ben

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Cautious response from Russia so far. They will 'not rule out that disruption is due to sabotage'. Do they know more than they are letting on? Watching this one closely.


Good reminder that despite the close attention we pay to reality, it always has surprises just around the corner!
 

thorbiorn

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More maps
BOTH Nord Stream Gas Pipelines Deliberately Ruptured - German Govt Suspects "Sabotage" Caused by "Special Forces Linked to Ukraine"

Nord Stream 2's operator said pressure in the undersea pipeline dropped from 105 to 7 bar overnight.
7 bars would indicate the leak was at around 70 meters. This is confirmed by this map from Aftershock.news. the depth of the NS 2 leak is 72 meters:
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From neftegaz.ru all three leaks are marked.
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And here is an image of what the tubes look like from petrodigest.ru
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Outside 60-110 mm reinforced concrete
Then anti-corrosive layer, 4.2 mm
Then steel tube of 27-41 mm
Inside anti-corrosive layer.
Will this damaged line be fixed anytime soon?
Does one need a pipe-laying ship?
Will the German Government need a few years to test the repaired line?
Will a third party be resentful or have interests? Like now.
 

f1esk

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The most interesting thing is that just a week before the gas pipeline was blown up, photos and posts appeared on the social networks of the Saloreikhov authorities with “fiery greetings to the orcs” from combat swimmers of the MTR of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, who carry out such operations that they will be declassified at the earliest after the victory over Russia. And immediately after these announcements - an attempt to sabotage the offshore gas pipelines going to Turkey (unsuccessfully) and Germany.


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Wandering Star

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Yes, I don't think anyone should look down on people who refuse / don't want to be drafted into a military to fight or get involved somehow. There will always be enough people to go to war and kill/slaughter each other, each thinking they are right and the other is wrong. The pattern has been consistent throughout human history and I doubt it'll change now. As an individual on this specific journey I find that the aim should be to navigate and live life so that one isn't overtaken by such events. The ultimate war is through us - it is not fought in ditches or with bullets and bombs.
According to Ra (Law of one) even in a war environment it could be possible to polarize positively (I am paraphrasing), saving lives, working for the partner, etc...

However, it is very difficult.

It is already difficult to act "correctly" (I mean on the side of good) in everyday life, so in a war environment it would be very difficult, since the action consists of killing and maiming, that is, creating suffering.

I don't think anyone who wants the good wants to go to war (conventional weapons and ammunition) and will try to avoid it, however, I don't rule out some situation, in which going there is the only alternative for that person.

What times we have to live!
 

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Gas leak in the Baltic Sea​

"Following the three gas leaks on the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea, the Danish Defence has deployed the frigate Absalon and the environmental ship Gunnar Thorson, as well as a helicopter capacity."

"Here is the video from the Danish Defence helicopter SAR emergency services in Roskilde."

 

thorbiorn

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A seismic event close to where the leak on NS 1 occurred?
They say NS1, but since the other line was already without pressure, how would they know that NS2 was not hit again?
The image below writes NS2, but it must be NS1 or? But as I understand, they are close to each other.
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If you zoom in:

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Above it says, between 55.55667 N and 55.535 N
One degree is 10000/90 or 111 km, so this is about 0.02 or less than three km.
[Incidentally the centre of Moscow is 55.45 N, and Copenhagen 55.40 N. Are their messages too?]

If the data above is authentic, then it is not far from an earthquake, at 55.63 N or about 8-11 km, if the data are correct, as the longitude is very close too. Schwaches Erdbeben Stärke 2.2 - Ostsee, 61 km südlich von Karlskrona, Blekinge, Schweden, am Montag, 26. Sep 2022 um 19:03 Lokalzeit
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Does the earthquake energy correspond to 31 kg of TNT?
Above you see the energy is estimated to 1.3 10^8 Joule.
For comparison 1 TNT equivalent is 4.184 gigajoules or 4.184 10^9 Joule, if one compares it gives 13/418 of one ton of TNT or 31 kg TNT, could that be possible. I guess these lines are either buried in the sea floor or they lie near the surface, but if you explode above if they are buried or near them if they are not, it might give in.

Someone suggested it could be leftover ordinance from WWII, but they clear a corridor of 125 meters, according to A Treasure Trove in the Baltic Sea, so is that likely, unless a small landslide caused by a bomb was used to tumble over or onto the pipeline, as has also been suggested.

If done under professional guidance, then one would expect there to be several plausible causes, and several actors who would stand to benefit, just like now.
 

Ben

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Swedish and Danish monitors find seismic evidence of explosions in the area of the gas pipeline.

The Swedish national broadcaster SVT is reporting that seismologists registered explosions near the Nord Stream pipelines in the last 36 hours. In a report published in the last few minutes it said:




I posted this in the Economic Reset thread.
 

Aeneas

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Apparently according to data from Flightradar, the US helicopters were busy in the area of the pipeline on the 2nd of September.

Translated from TG account of Pepe Escobar:
[Forwarded from Watfor | Motorway think tank (Oleg)]
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Paranoia paranoia (Коты и кошка Крамника ), but on September 2, we drew attention to the interesting maneuvers performed by an American helicopter with the call sign FFAB123. Then we assumed that this board was from the USS Kearsarge air wing, and today we looked at it in more detail.

According to the website ads-b.nl , this call sign was used by 6 boards that day, of which we managed to establish the side numbers of three. All of them are Sikorsky MH-60S.

By superimposing the FFAB123 route on the scheme of yesterday's accident, we get a rather interesting result — the helicopter either flew along the Nord Stream-2 highway, or even between the points where the accident occurred.

On Twitter, meanwhile, there were screenshots of other flights of American aviation — the following screenshot was taken on September 13.

And finally, we need to pay attention to the June article (BALTOPS 22: A Perfect Opportunity for Research and Resting New Technology - Seapower ) in Sea Power, where the Americans brag about experiments in the field of underwater drones, which they put on exercises BALTOPS 22 — just in the area of the island of Bronholm.
Here are the screenshots mentioned:
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[Forwarded from Ватфор | Автострадный think tank (Oleg)]
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Паранойя паранойей (Коты и кошка Крамника), но ещё 2 сентября мы обратили внимание на интересные манёвры, которые совершает американский вертолёт с позывным FFAB123. Тогда мы предположили, что этот борт — из авиакрыла USS Kearsarge, а сегодня посмотрели на него более подробно.

По данным сайта ads-b.nl, этим позывным в тот день пользовались 6 бортов, из которых нам удалось установить бортовые номера трёх. Все они — Сикорский MH-60S.

Наложив маршрут FFAB123 на схему вчерашней аварии, мы получаем довольно интересный результат — вертолёт то ли летал вдоль трассы Северного Потока - 2, то ли вообще между точками, в которых произошла авария.

В Твиттере, тем временем, нашлись скриншоты и других полётов американской авиации — следующий скриншот сделан 13 сентября.

Ну и, наконец, надо обратить внимание на июньскую статью (BALTOPS 22: A Perfect Opportunity for Research and Resting New Technology - Seapower) в Sea Power, где американцы хвастаются экспериментами в области подводных беспилотников, которые они ставили на учениях BALTOPS 22 — как раз, в районе острова Бронхольм.
 

thorbiorn

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Edit: I now see someone posted already a similar story, but to delete is not possible, so never mind.
From local media:
27/09/2022 AT. 15:33
Seismologist: Explosions hit Nord Stream
The is no doubt that blasts took place in the areas where the gas is flowing out of the North Stream, a seismologist says.

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Stations in both Denmark and Sweden on Monday registered strong explosions under water, in the same area as gasleaks from Nord Stream 1 and 2.

It reports the Swedish television station SVT.

- There is no doubt that it is blasting, ' says Björn Lund, who is an associate professor in seismology and head of the Swedish national seismic center SNSN.
 

Cosmos

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I think it is not a coincidence that Shoigu mentioned that Russia has 25 Million man, paraphrasing, „in reserve“, and that the 300.000 reservists are just about 1 percent of that capacity. It is another clear warning IMO and I don't think that that statement of Shoigu is a bluff either. What that again suggest to me is that Putin is prepared and willing to go "all in", if it can't be avoided. As of now, it looks like he might be pushed into such scenarios, where he has to go "all in". In line with my earlier suggestion, I think Putin isn't bluffing and will probably dare to do quite bold things, should things not improve. Maybe so daring in fact, that what we see now seems like nothing in comparison. And from where I sit, it seems to me that Putin would do the right and only reasonable thing with such a strategy. I think one of the key factors he is taking into account is his age and that he hasn't all too many years left where he still has all his abilities and powers together. If that should be the case, I'm willing to bet that we will see much more over the next 5-10 years.

In hindsight, it is also interesting to note the many speeches of Putin over the years about WW2, and specifically, about the history of NAZISM and Russia's role in defeating it:

Putin started out early on, to talk about that history in his speeches, first, in more general terms, and then, little by little over the years, becoming more explicit about it, and that the reason why he was so focused on keeping that memory and history alive, was, basically, because he saw a direct comparable development happening today and russia being the prime target of it. At the end, he and his people basically came right out and stated that what they are dealing with is essentially a replay of NAZI history and that "the west" is essentially the new NAZI regime. And I think he is right. The C's mentioning of what happened back then being just a "dry run" might be directly related to that.

On the other hand, I'm also fairly convinced that Putin knows much more, not only in terms of "the real agenda" (aka. "great reset" type of things and who the real "masters" are, like Mossad), but also that some quite serious earth changes are likely ahead. I think it is also clear that in certain respects Putin can just wait out this winter and the coming winters for the west to shoot themselves (even more so) royally into their own feet again and thereby possibly creating a situation where a regime change will happen naturally within those countries, by an unsatisfied public. I do think he takes all of that (and probably more) into account.
 
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