Telepathic Networking, A Proposal

[LordBucket]

Hello, everyone. Hello, Laura. Hello, Ark.

I have an idea I would like to offer to those who might be more inclined and/or capable of implementing it than I have been, to date.

Telepathic Networking

"Networking is a fourth density concept."

We have computer networks to facilitate communication on this level, and "telepathy" in general seems plausible enough. In retrospect, this idea almost seems obvious. Why don't we put the two together?

I would like to propose to anyone so inclined, to be aware of the possibility of telepathically "networking" with others, and to consider actually giving it a try. If it's something we're capable of at this point, one person trying it alone might be like a person trying to make, or receive a telephone call from someone with their phone off the hook. If we try to actively listen for the phone ringing, we're much more likely to hear it if it does.

Following the model of computer networking, I have tried this with some minimal, and extremely subjectively questionable success. I have tried to consciously make thoughts, ideas, and knowledge I possess generally "available" to fellow humans on this planet, as if I were a server. Sometimes I have felt a vague sensation that people might be "downloading." Sometimes it's been followed by dreams of a bunch of people I don't know "hanging out" in my bedroom. Other times absolutely nothing has happened at all. I have tried "accessing" knowledge that I lack, which should logically be available from a great many other people. For example, a word in a language I don't speak. These attempts have met with absolutely zero success. Perhaps nobody was allowing anonymous requests. Perhaps I'm not personally very good at remote access. Maybe I'm just "not ready."

Or, perhaps it's entirely not a valid concept. Granted, I have nothing solid to go on. But, it seems like a reasonable idea, and again, I would like to offer it to anyone who may be able to make use of it.

The standard disclaimers

Supposing it is possible, supposing it is possible for us, and supposing it's possible for us at this stage...and supposing somebody is actually able to get it to work...many things come to mind that should probably be considered. Think of all the problems that exist for computer networking. Now imagine them inside your mind:

* Interference: If 4th density STS is interfering with 3rd density networks, it's not unreasonable they may try to interfere with this one. Having direct telepathic contact with 4th density STS seems like it could be extremely hazardous to your mental and/or spiritual health.

* One is easier to control than many: There may be mind control methods that would be more effective on large number of people, when those people are in communication. It may be easier to manipulate or control a single network of a dozen people than a dozen individuals who are not networked.

* Mob mentality: What if we succeed? If 200 people can change the world, what could six billion do? The possibilities are staggering...but it works both ways: what could 3 billion networked organic portals do?

* Blatantly incorrect information Lots of that on the Internet. Much of that incorrect information comes from people. Some may even be doing it deliberately. Many of those same people may be involved in a telepathic network. Just because it's out there, doesn't mean it's true.

* EMOTIONAL content may very likely be transmissable via a telepathic network. Think of the most intensely unpleasant, depressing, heart-wrenching experience of your life. Now, imagine that times six billion.

* Hackers? Viruses? Ideas planted in your mind by others, either deliberately or by accident, that create/manipulate mental processes against your wishes, and possibly without your awareness?

* Content and signal/noise ratio considerations. How much of the internet is porn? If people start being able to telepathically communicate across the globe, a lot of the "data transfers" may be things you don't particularly want to participate in, or be made available to your children, at all times, without your knowledge or ability to intervene.

So, yes...obviously there are some serious concerns. And so, fully aware of the reality that these are very much uncharted, and potentially dangerous waters with who-knows-what sort of unknowns...I'd like to suggest a few possible precautions:

* "Firewalls and filters": Don't allow undesired access. Attempt to filter any information and "requests" coming into your being. "How?" I don't know. This entire proposal is an experiment. Be aware of the possibility. That awareness may be useful.

* "Humans only": If we, as humans, are in some way a coherent spiritual "unit," it may be reasonable to suppose that we can maintain a local network amongst ourselves. If two people plug their computers into each other, back to back, with no outside connections, odds of outside interference are much less. It's possible that we, as a species, already enjoy such a relationship with one another, and may be able to make use of it. Of course, keep in mind that just because YOU are only networking with people, doesn't mean that the people you're networking with are only networking with people.

* "Conscious humans only": On some level I suspect that only those who are close to fourth density anyway would be able to enter into telepathic networking...but I wouldn't want to depend on it. It may be wise to try to filter out certain people, too. Again...3 billion organic portals...let's not go there.

* "Conscious monitoring": When I've attempted this, I've generally done it as my active mental focus...not something that I simply allow to be running all the time whether or not I'm paying attention to it. This may limit the ultimate usefulness of the network, but..."baby steps." Be willing to unplug your connection.

Feedback is welcome. I will try to be "on" tonight.

Bucket Man

 

[Peto]

I don't know what to say. I'm aware that some limited form of telepathy is possible in a few people but not that many. You yourself said that you only had extremely subjective and questionable success. Sound like chasing shadows to me while there's so much concrete work to do.

 

[Ruth]

Just wondering if you think that telepathic communication is 'better' than just talking, typing or picking up the phone? Wouldn't it be easier to communicate and network in ways we understand and can have some control over?

I only have a limited understanding of telepathy and it may be totally incorrect, but I think I have observed what seems to be telepathy between 2nd density beings. I thought that this was because they didn't use language and must therefore use some form of telepathic communication. I was wondering do humans have access to a more sophisticated form of telepathy commensurate with 3rd density, or, have language and vision taken over in the way we 'network'?

Well, I think its certainly something to think about.

It may even be possible that some people who are 'networking' do have telepathic links (even when they don't wish to acknowledge them, or act on them).

As far as this forum goes, I've often had 'feelings' that certain people should 'watch out' for danger (i.e.: they were getting, or about to get, the Matrix's 'evil eye') and that certain people were 'dangerous' - but never as many as the former. I've never known if these feelings were true or not, even when I've chosen to act on them which is quite often. I suppose it could be a form of telepathy, or something of a 6th sense, but I'm not sure. :)

 

[Pierre]

Hello, everyone. Hello, Laura. Hello, Ark.

I have an idea I would like to offer to those who might be more inclined and/or capable of implementing it than I have been, to date.
]Telepathic Networking

"Networking is a fourth density concept."

We have computer networks to facilitate communication on this level, and "telepathy" in general seems plausible enough. In retrospect, this idea almost seems obvious. Why don't we put the two together?

Hi LordBucket and welcome on board,

Your computer network telepathy is interesting. It can remind us of things like egregore or Stonehenge. Utimatelly, from what I understand, this kind of union seems to be an outcome of the Work. When the higher centers are active enough they might display this union property.

Some of those ideas are developed in this thread :
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=5059

Alos the Cs specifically dealt with telepathy here :

Q: (L) Is there some way to communicate with whales or
dolphins and can one find a way to translate the differences
and have a reasonable, intelligent exchange with a whale or a
dolphin or even an elephant?
A: You don't need conversation "with" when a higher
telepathic level.
Q: (L) Dolphins and whales communicate telepathically?
A: Yes. So do dogs and cats and snakes etc. etc. only
humans have learned the "superior" art of verbal
communication.
Q: (L) But, at the same time, verbal communication can be
quite limiting, is that correct?
A: That is the point.

and here :

Do any secret libraries containing all the secret
wisdom of our history exist anywhere on the planet?
A: No. The secrets that you are alluding to are contained
within mental structures in psychic realms, some of which you
have little or no conception of. There is no need to record
anything in any form that could be placed in any library. It is
all done verbally and through mental telepathy.

 

[seek10]

Feedback is welcome. I will try to be "on" tonight.

Bucket Man

Are you in a Hurry to get a answer with the first post . Any Reason for this ?

What is the purpose for this ?.

Laura wrote extensively about her experiments with channeling ( Here i am considerting telepathy is part of channeling) including noise and other factors mentioned in amazing grace ( I think ).

Unless there is some specific purpose like tuning psychic instruments for one's own growth needs, your suggestion looks like running through a cross fire with closed eyes for no reason .

 

[agni]

May I ask how you expect to "secure the channel" and how can you identify who is who or what is what ?

 

[Z...]

I think axel has a good point,

there is a lot of work to be done before our hardware is capabable

 

[agni]

Hardware has been always capable, it's a question of finding apropriate driver for it :)

 

[Cyre2067]

It sounds like a neat idea, but other then that i doubt it's really 'solid' enough for anything objective to be measured.

From what i've gathered telepathy is just one of many latent faculities we humans posess that can be reactivated upon achieving progress in 'the work', another would include the ability to discern the true from the false... but again these things only come when the individual has done the homework and is prepared for them.

 

[Z...]

Hardware has been always capable, it's a question of finding apropriate driver for it :)

not finding - earning or building ;)

 

[LordBucket]

Forgive me if I answer everyone all at once.

psiegelgnt:
Are you in a Hurry to get a answer with the first post

I think you misunderstood. By "on" I meant, "on the proposed telepathic network." Or, to put it another way: "I'm going to actually try this right now, for real, tonight...not just sit around and talk about it."

Last nights results were, subjectively, somewhat more interesting than previous attempts, but objectively, equally worthless.

psiegelgnt:
Unless there is some specific purpose like tuning psychic instruments for one's own
growth needs, your suggestion looks like running through a cross fire with closed eyes for no reason

"Specific purpose?" "No reason?"

I'm confused on many levels. This strikes me as like suggesting that there was no purpose in inventing the telephone, since it was easy enough to mail a letter, and goodness...what if you get electrocuted? Second...it's all well and good to read, talk and speculate about 'unity' and 'transcendance,' but what if these are things we have to actually make happen? I think it's a good thing that we are all learning and progressing as individuals, but at what point do we begin learning and progressing as a 'WE?'

Sure...maybe what I'm proposing is a natural result of ascension to fourth density, and maybe attempting it now is like trying to learn algebra before learning to add. That's possible. But, in my mind it's also possible that the development on ongoing telepathic contact could be a natural manifestation of the process, rather than merely an end result.

And, of course, if we succeeded, humanity would benefit from the greatest human network ever built.

...and, incidentally...to quote from a previous message...

session941107 wrote:

Q: (L) Dolphins and whales communicate telepathically?
A: Yes. So do dogs and cats and snakes etc. etc. only
humans have learned the "superior" art of verbal
communication.

So...second density is telepathic? WHY do we think we can't be as well...?

agni:
May I ask how you expect to "secure the channel"

This is a collective *network* I'm proposing, not a secure communication between two points. I don't disclude the possibility of 'filtering traffic,' so to speak, but I'm more concerned about establishing connections than securing them. Evaluate any information you receive for possible corruption, but think about a wiki: ANYONE can edit it.

Are they not useful?

(However, to be clear, I'm not suggesting that anyone make their pschye available for 'write' operations. I'm suggesting we make them available for 'read' operations, and collectively practice reading one another. Fourth density can already read our minds "like a newspaper." Maybe it's time that we learn to do it too?)

agni:
how can you identify who is who or what is what ?

Same way as you would in any form of communication: Ask. Observe. Feel free to evaluate your answers and observations in any way you wish. But, again...if people are making information they posses "available" via a telepathic network, does it really matter who is accessing it? When I build a website, I don't ask who each and every person viewing it is. I simply make information available in a 'read-only' fashion.

Deckard:
there is a lot of work to be done before our hardware is capabable

That's possible.

But again, if 2nd density can do it, why couldn't we?

Cyre2067:
It sounds like a neat idea, but other then that i doubt it's really
'solid' enough for anything objective to be measured.

It would be trivial to measure success via the method I've already proposed: Attempt to retrieve a piece of information you're unaware of, which others would reasonably possess. Look it up afterwards. or, if you want to be formal about it, have some number of people decide on a 'subject' to be retrieved, have them mentally 'make it available' and then have other people attempt to retrieve it. Confirm after the attempt. You could do this even even simply two people in a room, but this is a limiting idea. I'm proposing the experiment on a larger, and ongoing scale.

Consider that there may be benefit to large numbers of people actively participating in such an experiment. Assuming that telepathy is a valid concept to begin with, it seems reasonable to me that a thousand people all simultaneously attempting telepathic contact with one another, and on a daily basis, is more likely to meet with success than two people sitting in a room, once.

Deckard:
>not finding - earning or building

Ok. Let's earn and build.

Bucket Man

 

[Nienna]

I find this to be extremely worrisome. When you open yourself up like this, you are basically inviting STS participation. I would really think twice before doing this. You never know who'll pop in.

 

[seek10]

earth:
Unless there is some specific purpose like tuning psychic instruments for one's own
growth needs, your suggestion looks like running through a cross fire with closed eyes for no reason

"Specific purpose?" "No reason?"

I'm confused on many levels. This strikes me as like suggesting that there was no purpose in inventing the telephone, since it was easy enough to mail a letter, and goodness...what if you get electrocuted? Second...it's all well and good to read, talk and speculate about 'unity' and 'transcendance,' but what if these are things we have to actually make happen? I think it's a good thing that we are all learning and progressing as individuals, but at what point do we begin learning and progressing as a 'WE?'
Sure...maybe what I'm proposing is a natural result of ascension to fourth density, and maybe attempting it now is like trying to learn algebra before learning to add. That's possible. But, in my mind it's also possible that the development on ongoing telepathic contact could be a natural manifestation of the process, rather than merely an end result.

And, of course, if we succeeded, humanity would benefit from the greatest human network ever built.

In general sense, your point is well taken. You are suggesting taking networking to the next level. But By considering the difficult factors like available time, amount of psychic attacks, noise issues to be dealt with,exisitng mind control technology, burning world which needs attention, It may be better to leave it to the natural growth process rather than experimenting on this issue. Sure, we can try based on available resources.

Sure...maybe what I'm proposing is a natural result of ascension to fourth density, and maybe attempting it now is like trying to learn algebra before learning to add. That's possible. But, in my mind it's also possible that the development on ongoing telepathic contact could be a natural manifestation of the process, rather than merely an end result.

And, of course, if we succeeded, humanity would benefit from the greatest human network ever built.

...and, incidentally...to quote from a previous message...

session941107 wrote:

Q: (L) Dolphins and whales communicate telepathically?
A: Yes. So do dogs and cats and snakes etc. etc. only
humans have learned the "superior" art of verbal
communication.

So...second density is telepathic? WHY do we think we can't be as well...?

agni:
May I ask how you expect to "secure the channel"

This is a collective *network* I'm proposing, not a secure communication between two points. I don't disclude the possibility of 'filtering traffic,' so to speak, but I'm more concerned about establishing connections than securing them. Evaluate any information you receive for possible corruption, but think about a wiki: ANYONE can edit it.

Are they not useful?

In cases like Wiki or cassiopdeia ( www.cassiopedia.org/index.html ). still the source and destination of information is in the format and medium which we are comfortable for thousands years ie. Materialist visible Medum. So the possibility of validating it and filtering the information is lot lot easier. In case of Telepathy, it is completly different.
IMO , it is 4D lesson rather than 3D lesson, unless we had sufficient resources . :)

 

[henry]

Bucket Man,

You might want to think about the comments made about "earning the driver" and this type of communication coming as the result of work on the self.

The first question that comes to my mind is why would I want this kind of communication with you? Who are you? Why would I want to make any sort of energetic connection with you?

Do you understand why others might have these concerns?

Henry

 

[Z...]

But again, if 2nd density can do it, why couldn't we?

We cannot be sure whether animals can do it or how does it work for them,
as the matter of fact we are not sure what kind of consciousnes dwells within 2 D residents ;)