The Royal Family in World War 2
I appreciate that Laura has argued that the Royal Family are useful idiots but even useful idiots sometimes have their moments. Laura mentioned earlier in this thread that the Queen warned Paul Burrell after Diane’s death to tread carefully as there were powerful hidden forces that could take action against him.
“Consider this: Paul Burrell, Princess Diana's butler, said that the Queen warned him, during a meeting soon after the death of Diana in 1997, that “There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge.”
People may wonder what the Queen meant by this. However, I think she had good reason to say this since she is probably well aware of what happened during the war to her uncle, the Duke of Kent. People have noted that this thread has brought up interesting aspects concerning the Royal Family and great revelations for others. However, what I am about to relate brings up very far reaching implications for the world we live in today and perhaps makes more sense of World War 2 than our history books disclose to us.
First you have to appreciate what the C’s have said about Hitler and the Nazis being a dress rehearsal for the New World Order. In my view Hitler was an Illuminatus who went rogue and had to be stopped. The original intention was to make Hitler and the German people a counter to the Soviet threat which under Stalin had gone against the original Illuminati plan (consider the Red Symphony Full text of "Red Symphony"
). Hitler’s original handlers were probably Rudolf Hess and Hermann Goering. Later in the war that role would fall to Martin Bormann.
You must also consider the role of the British foreign secret service otherwise known as MI6. The original English secret service was set up under Sir Francis Walsingham in the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. Subsequently it was reformed under Sir Francis Bacon, Lord Chancellor of England, under James I. Bacon was both a Freemason and a Rosicrucian. Many of his spy operatives were Freemasons too. That persists to this day. To give just two examples, the famous British spies and traitors Philby, Burgess and Maclean were all Freemasons belonging to the Singapore Lodge and, this will surprise many people, the famous Aleister Crowley was also a Freemason and member of MI6. Indeed, he was charged by Winston Churchill to head the propaganda operation in the USA to win the Americans over to the British side prior to America’s entry into the War in December 1941. The C’s have at times made references to the nefarious activities of MI6 and they clearly are an instrument of the PTB, as are the CIA and Mossad.
You must also remember that the Queen’s father, George VI, came to the throne just before the outbreak of the Second World War. His brother David, as Edward VIII, had been forced to abdicate in 1938 due to his wish to marry Wallace Simpson an American divorcee. He then became the Duke of Windsor and left England to live in Paris where he was residing at the outbreak of war in September 1939. The Duke of Windsor was noted to have had a degree of sympathy for Nazi aims and had met Hitler when he was the Prince of Wales. Some extant footage came to light recently showing him with a young princess Elizabeth practising Nazi salutes (I do not take this as evidence of his commitment to the Nazis though, as most British people were probably amused by all the stiff arm fascist salutes and quite happily aped them for fun. I know that I did as a child). Some think his pro-German sympathies may have had more to do with his abdication than his love for Wallace Simpson. It is a telling point that after his abdication and marriage, the Duke of Windsor and his wife would dine with Rudolf Hess and his family at their home in Munich.
When the war took a bad turn for the British with the fall of France and the retreat from Dunkirk, the Germans hatched a plan, endorsed by Hitler, to seize the Duke of Windsor and, if they had been successful in invading and conquering Britain, to put him back on the throne in place of George VI. After the Duke had fled France, the plan involved luring him to a villa in Spain just over the Portugese border and then abducting him back to Germany. Cutting a long story short, Churchill and the British Secret Service became worried that the Duke had been dawdling for too long and had exposed himself to unnecessary danger. Eventually they persuaded him to go to Lisbon in Portugal and from there flew him to the island of Bermuda and safety, whereupon after landing he became the Governor General of the colony for the remainder of the war.
I would point people to an excellent book by Dr. Joseph P Farrell on ‘Hess and the Penguins
’ published in 2017. Hess and the Penguins: The Holocaust, Antarctica and the Strange Case of Rudolf Hess: Amazon.co.uk: Joseph P Farrell: 9781939149855: Books
In the book he makes the case that there was far more to Rudolf Hess’ mysterious flight to Scotland in May 1941 than the official record admits. To summarise his book, Farrell advances the argument that Hess (Deputy Fuhrer and a member of the Thule Society) was coming to Britain to meet with the Duke of Hamilton, one of Scotland’s most important nobleman in order to discuss a peace proposal to put to the King. In this Hess had the backing of Hermann Goering (a Freemason). The plan was to offer an armistice to Britain, which would involve the Germans pulling back to their original starting positions in September 1939. In return, the British would agree to take no action against a German assault on the Soviet Union, which in some British circles was deemed to be in Britain’s best interests. Indeed, it is not well known but it was the British who clandestinely flew General Franco from Tenerife to Morocco so he could join Spanish forces there in order to lead them in the Spanish Civil War against the Republicans, as Britain feared a Bolshevik Spain might join forces with the Soviet Union to destabilise southern Europe. In order to pacify the Polish, it was agreed that the Duke of Kent would be placed on the vacant Polish throne and the Poles would stand aside against a German invasion of Russia. An emissary of the Polish Government in exile supposedly met with Hess to discuss the plan and agree it. There were two main obstacles to the plan though and that was Churchill and Hitler. Hence, the plan involved toppling both from power and this meant using the King to achieve this end by using his royal prerogative powers to dismiss Churchill.
Now before going any further I need to bring in what the C’s have had to say about Hess’ flight:
Q: Alright. Along the same lines of the Sabrina Aisenberg issue, I was reading a book about Churchill and Hitler and
Rudolf Hess. It seems that this writer was saying that the man in Spandau Prison was NOT Rudolf Hess. Is that correct?
Q: What happened to Rudolf Hess?
A: Died in plane crash in Scotland.
Q: He died? Was this the reported crash landing?
Q: He DIED in that crash?
Q: Who was the guy who parachuted out?
A: Did not.
Q: They made up the whole story?
A: No, just Hess survival, for propaganda value.
Q: Well that is a bizarre thing to say about it. But, it is also another option that the writer of that book did NOT consider.
But what about the farmer who saw a guy parachute out of the plane?
A: So they say.
Q: Well, I guess they could have set the whole thing up. That would be even MORE devious!
A: Real Hess would never have relented to abuse.
Q: Hmmm. Did Hess actually fly to Scotland?
Q: Did Hitler know and was he in on it?
Q: So, they had to make Hitler think Hess survived in order to fool him into thinking that whatever the plan was it was working?
A: Hitler believed Hess had gone mad, or had indeed died.
Q: Well, this is a bizarre question, but I have to ask it. Was Hitler a homosexual?
Q: Well, this book suggests that he had an unusual relationship with Rudolf Hess. But, others said that he was completely ascetic in ALL ways.
A: Book is wrong in other ways too.
The question is though which crash in Scotland are the C’s referring to? Was it his landing in May 1941 or the crash in August 1942 near Scotland’s Eagle Rock, which claimed the life of the Queen’s uncle, the Duke of Kent, who was on a special mission purportedly to Iceland where British troops were then based? If it was the latter, then the real Hess spent over a year in Scotland or elsewhere in hiding as a guest of his Majesty the King, whilst a Hess double was being held in prison by the British Government. Farrell in his book tends to side with those arguing that the Hess held in Spandau prison was a mind controlled (think MK Ultra) body double as the C’s seem to have confirmed. The only thing I can add to what Farrell and others have said on this matter is that my uncle Nicholas guarded Hess in Spandau Prison whilst he was serving in the British Army in Germany after the war. He told me that Hess was quite mad and used to go around giving Nazi salutes to lamp posts.
But why did Hess choose to meet up with the Duke of Hamilton? Well there were a number of influential groups in Britain who could see what a prolonged war with Germany and Italy might entail for the ongoing preservation of the British Empire. Indeed, there is evidence that clandestine contacts had already been going on between the Germans and British peace parties in Sweden, Switzerland and Spain. Goering had links with Sweden as he had fled there to recuperate after he was wounded in the failed Munich coup. Hess was a close friend of the noted German geopolitical expert General Karl Haushofer and his son Albrecht (who would subsequently die at the hands of the Nazis). Hence, it was the Haushofer-Hess peace faction in Germany that carried on the secretive discussions with the British peace faction via the Haushofers’ extensive network of connections to it (I wonder if these could have been Masonic or Rosicrucian give the close links between the English rosicrucians and the German rosicrucians going back over centuries). General Haushofer revealed in correspondence with his son in early September 1940 (just prior to the start of the Blitz on Britain) that he had heard from an old British friend, Mrs. Violet Roberts who was based in neutral Portugal, and they should attempt to use her to communicate with the Duke of Hamilton.
Now against this background one needs to take into account Winston Churchill’s position and his political philosophy. Churchill (who was half American) was an avowed Atlanticist working along the lines of the fusion of Britain, its Empire and the United States into one giant federation*. This was the old dream of Cecil Rhodes and his Round Table, an Illuminati front organisation. Indeed, there is some slight evidence that Churchill had already proposed this to President Roosevelt. Indeed, he had already offered a similar deal to the French in June 1940 but the fall of France had scuppered this. The Haushofers would have preferred a fusion between Germany and the British instead. Hence, as geostrategists it made sense to them to have Hess negotiate a peace deal with the British to avoid the realisation of an Anglo-American alliance.
*In some ways this is already a reality given the Five Eyes Agreement and the close economic and military ties between the US, Britain and the main countries of the British Commonwealth. You only have to think of the number of times the British have supported American military ventures since the Second World War (with Vietnam being the main exception).
Churchill (a Freemason) was also very much an instrument of the PTB. One of his many vices was gambling and he got into considerable debt during the 1930’s. This could have resulted in his bankruptcy, which would have meant he would have to resign his seat in the House of Commons and this would have spelt the end of his political career. He was rescued by American financial friends, reputedly by Bernard Baruch, amongst others, who was the George Soros of his day. This would have meant that he was beholden to them and they could called in favours whenever they wanted to. It seems that contrary to public appearances, Churchill was not an admirer of the King and his three brothers. Indeed, referred to them in private as the ‘Marx Brothers’ (a famous Hollywood comedy team of the period). It is almost certain that Churchill would have been opposed to any peace deal brokered by the Duke of Hamilton and his peace party through the patronage of the King. It is also worth pointing out that during the war, Lord Victor Rothschild was appointed to MI5 in roles including bomb disposal, disinformation and espionage. He was the head of B1C, the "explosives and sabotage section", and worked on identifying where Britain's war effort was vulnerable to sabotage and counter German sabotage attempts. With his assistant Theresa Clay he ran the “Fifth Column Operation”, which saw MI5 officer Eric Roberts masquerade as the Gestapo’s man in London in order to identify hundreds of Nazi sympathisers. In this way, he might have been able to monitor the pro-peace factions and report back to Churchill. You should also note that in his student days at Cambridge, Rothschild became friends with Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt and Kim Philby, all members of the so called ‘Cambridge Spy Ring’.
But how powerful were the pro-peace groups or lobbies in Britain in 1940. Amongst their number mention should be made of certain key figures. These were: Sir Samuel Hoare (of the established banking family) the British Ambassador to Madrid, Spain; Lord Beaverbrook the Canadian industrialist and newspaper magnate; Sir Stuart Menzies, the head of British foreign intelligence or MI6 who cynically wanted to pursue German friendship so that Germany would be strong enough to stand up to the challenge of the Soviet Union on her own and thus with both countries weakened by war, it would make it easier for the British Empire to deal with the challenge of the victor; and finally Sir Lloyd George the British Prime Minister who had led Britain to victory in the First World War. Hitler admired Lloyd George and invited him to Germany before the war. The admiration was not mutual as Lloyd George after their meeting made it clear that he looked on Hitler with contempt.
Another key player amongst the aristocracy besides the Duke of Hamilton was the Duke of Westminster. He played a key role in the coordination of these various “pro-peace factions”, for he organised the anti-war peers into a powerful lobbying group in the British House of Lords. Mention should also be made of the Duke of Buccleuch another member of the pro-German peace faction, whose sister was married to the Duke of Gloucester, the King’s younger brother. He was appointed the Keeper of the King’s Household in 1937, a position that made him a Privy Councillor. He effectively became the point man for the King in the House of Lords. When Churchill came to power, the King reluctantly acknowledged the sensitivity of Buccleuch’s position and removed him from that liaison role. Hence, as you can see, there were a lot of powerful aristocrats in Britain who were in favour of a negotiated peace settlement with Germany. Even Churchill recognised this when in June 1940 in answer to calls for an inquiry into the ‘appeasement party’ with a view to prosecuting its members, Churchill replied that “this would be foolish as there were too many in it”. How different history would look today if they had succeeded.
According to Farrell, there does appear to be one further intriguing fact that could indicate the Royal Family’s interest in a negotiated peace settlement with Germany beyond the personal friendliness of the Duke of Windsor to the Nazis. This is the fact that Elizabeth the Queen Mother’s brother, David Bowes Lyon, was a member of the Anglo-German Fellowship, an organisation containing many peers and other members of British High Society.
I have already noted the significance of the Duke of Kent in the alleged peace plan and his tragic death in the 25th August 1942 air crash. By all accounts the Duke was urbane, sophisticated and multi-lingual. Most importantly he functioned as a kind of personal intelligence officer to his brother the King. In this connection, he had already met and dined with Hess, Rosenberg and Ribbentrop (the Nazi foreign minister) before the war. He was also allegedly a member of the reception committee waiting for Hess’ arrival in Scotland. Farrell also suggests that before Hess joined the Duke of Kent on their ill fated flight, Hess was being sheltered at a house in Wales owned by the Duke of Pembroke. Why is this significant? Because the Duke of Pembroke just happened to be the equerry to the Duke of Kent.
As regards the plane crash, Farrell suggests that the aircraft’s real destination was Sweden not Iceland. He also alludes to another anomaly and that is after careful consultation and comparison with other records, there appeared to be an unaccounted-for body on the Duke of Kent’s plane, a body, moreover, that it appears that King George himself personally made inquiries about when he visited the scene of the crash site. Additionally, the flight plan itself has disappeared and the weather personnel on the east coast of Scotland were sworn to secrecy and required to sign the Official Secrets Act. I would also add that there was one survivor of the crash. In a documentary I saw on the mysterious crash (before reading Farrell’s book), one member of the aircrew survived but he was told never ever to mention anything about the mission on grounds of strictest military secrecy. He and his family were threatened with serious reprisals if they should ever attempt to divulge what occurred that night. The aircrewman subsequently never spoke about the incident. In summation, Farrell thinks that the air crash was no accident and that a very serious message was being sent to the King and the Royal Family, one indicating that no further interference would be tolerated.
I believe this account sheds a very different light on the Second World War and the British Royal Family’s involvement in it. Given that the Queen was 16 years old when her uncle was killed, it is difficult to believe that she was not made aware, at some stage, of the forces at work during this period. Hence, in my view this might explain what she was warning Burrell of and how loose talk could cost you your life.