Chinese Spy balloon?
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I was doing my nightly round of news and I caught the following that I think may be pertinent to the discussion, I think she says it quite well, UFOs in the US is such a fantastic distraction from a chemical disaster, specially since they really haven't shared any details.. they seem to be just riding the wave of people's speculation at this point.
I totally agree with you, the UFO saga is entertainment but more than that, it's social engineering. And how to manipulate people's attention. The PTB are black magicians, they use tricks so that we don't see what is really going on. And just yesterday my husband and I were talking about this terrible, absolutely awful derailment and what is worse, the residues in the air travel in the air, they have no borders. So what happened in Ohio is very, very serious.
Here is a video of the sky after the accident. The language is vulgar, but the sky is awful. Those clouds are full of chemicals that kill. Not only humans but animals, plants, nature.
And here is an article about the substances that now are in the air, and travel in the skies.
Here is a video of the sky after the accident. The language is vulgar, but the sky is awful. Those clouds are full of chemicals that kill. Not only humans but animals, plants, nature.
And here is an article about the substances that now are in the air, and travel in the skies.
Don't think this has been posted here yet: UK pilots report of 7 near misses with 'unidentified floating objects' - 'floating', rather than flying, and yet they also still don't say that they were for sure balloons:
Balloons aside, it reminds me also of the reports of drones at UK airports a few years ago: London airports order military-grade anti-drone equipment worth "several million" -- Sott.net
Close encounters over Britain: Pilots reported seven near misses with unidentified floating objects in UK air space last year - as concern grows over Chinese spy balloon threat
By Matthew Lodge
- UK Airprox Board (UKAB) data revealed a catalogue of near-misses last year
- It came after the United States shot down a Chinese spy balloon and other UFOs
Published: 13:06 GMT, 14 February 2023 | Updated: 14:51 GMT, 14 February 2023
Planes flying over Britain had at least seven near misses with objects that could have been balloons last year, an analysis has found.
Pilots at the controls of multiple aircraft reported seeing objects that they believed could have been balloons or drones at altitudes between 1,800 and 34,000 feet.
The data obtained from the UK Airprox Board (UKAB), which records near misses in British airspace, revealed some items came as close as 10 metres away from the aircraft in question.
Yesterday Rishi Sunak vowed to do 'whatever it takes' to keep the UK safe from the threat of spy balloons amid raised concerns about their use by countries such as China.
The United States shot down one Chinese-made balloon at the start of the month after it was spotted drifting over the country, and five other unidentified flying objects (UFOs)have been taken down over North America in recent weeks.
Multiple aircraft reported near misses with 'balloons' in UK airspace last year, including one on approach to Stanstead Airport (pictured)
The reports sent to UKAB cover close encounters in British airspace, and range from potential collisions between aircraft and near misses with UFOs.
An analysis by PA News Agency found the most recent near miss was on December 17, when the pilot of an EV97 light aircraft flying at 1,850 feet above Enfield, north London reported an object that 'could have been a balloon or an egg-shaped drone' flying 'directly below them by 50-200ft'.
An air traffic controller told the board on September 25 a pilot in the cockpit of an Airbus A319 airliner was 'distracted' by an object which was 'either a balloon or a drone' passing along the side of the plane.
The pilot said it was in 'close proximity' and described it as a 'white object, considered to be a threat' and 'rectangular'.
Four days later, a pilot on a Boeing 737 taking off from Stansted Airport, Essex reported seeing 'a glinting object' as near as 50 metres away.
The pilot 'first thought it was a balloon', but then believed that was unlikely given it was at an altitude of 9,000 feet, so believed it was a drone.
On July 2 a pilot of a Boeing 757 plane saw 'what was first thought to be balloons' at 7,500 feet shortly after departing from Manchester Airport.
The report went on to state that 'as the black object passed down the right-hand side it looked like a drone'.
On July 16, the captain and first office in the cockpit of an Airbus A320 near Hatfield, Hertfordshire noticed an object which was 'grey/silver in colour and about the size of a large drone or balloon'.
It was 'almost shiny in appearance' and passed 'within 100-200ft below their aircraft'. The UKAB concluded that the incident had the second-highest level of risk as 'safety had been much reduced below the norm'.
On June 3, the pilot of an Airbus A321 aircraft at 34,000 feet above Norwich saw 'a small white weather balloon'.
The first officer onboard an ATR 72 turboprop plane approaching Liverpool John Lennon Airport on April 8 observed 'a small silver coloured object' about 10 metres away from the right wing at 3,500 feet.
The report added: 'As the object was only visible for three seconds it was not enough time to determine whether it was a balloon or a drone.'
The UKAB concluded that the incident had the highest level of risk as 'a definite risk of collision had existed'.
In October 2017, the Met Office said it 'launches over 4,300 balloons every year from six locations across the UK' and is 'involved in launching thousands more around the globe'.
The former British ambassador to the US said even if the objects were spy balloons there was no need for concern as 'an awful lot of that goes on everywhere'.
Kim Darroch said people in the UK should 'sleep easy in their beds' about the threat of Chinese spy balloons.
Lord Darroch said the UK had 'under-invested in defence' but that there was still capacity to deal with any surveillance inflatables sent to monitor activity in Britain.
He said such surveillance techniques had been 'going on for years' and 'we shouldn't be panicking about it'.
The former national security adviser told Times Radio: 'It's still, I think, unless we discover something new, it's still well-known technology.
'It's still basically surveillance, still basically spying, and the reality is an awful lot of that goes on everywhere.'
Lord Darroch said it was possible that China was able to get 'much clearer' photographs using balloons than the Beijing espionage programme could by using satellite technology.
A former chief of air staff, meanwhile, said balloons could also give spies the chance to make audio recordings.
But Air Chief Marshal Sir Michael Graydon said more information was needed on what the balloons were able to report back 'before we get our knickers too much in the twist'.
He told LBC: 'It's been sort of exercising my mind, what they are getting from a balloon that they can't get from other sources, it is not clear to me at all.
'I think possibly there's opportunity to listen in to certain things that they might not be able to do so easily.'
Asked whether such balloons could be shot down if they enter UK airspace, Sir Michael said it was probably best to 'let it drift out towards sea and then shoot it down there'.
'But I go back to what I said to start with, it would be very useful to find out what's actually in them before we get too excited,' he added.
Nato defence ministers, including Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, will meet in Brussels on Tuesday and Wednesday, with the subject of spy balloons on the agenda.
The debate about the potential surveillance gadgets comes after US fighter jets shot down an 'unidentified object' over Lake Huron on Sunday, the fourth object to enter US or Canadian airspace in just over a week.
On February 4, the US military downed a suspected Chinese spy balloon off the Carolina coast after it travelled over sensitive military sites across North America.
Almost a week later, on Friday, they shot down an unknown 'car-sized' object flying in US airspace off the coast of Alaska.
Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau on Saturday ordered a US warplane to shoot down an unidentified object that was flying over northern Canada.
On Sunday, a further unidentified object was shot down with a missile by US fighter jets over Lake Huron.
US officials said they still know little about the three objects downed since Friday but the White House ruled out 'extra-terrestrial activity' following wild speculation about their origins.
Balloons aside, it reminds me also of the reports of drones at UK airports a few years ago: London airports order military-grade anti-drone equipment worth "several million" -- Sott.net
The article states:
"London's Gatwick and Heathrow airports have ordered military-grade anti-drone defenses worth "several million pounds" after drones caused three days of disruption at Gatwick last month, The Times newspaper reported on Thursday."
[...]
"The military was drafted in to deploy specialist equipment, enabling authorities to reassure the airport that it was safe for planes to take off and land.
The technology included the Israeli-designed Drone Dome system, The Times reported."
I don't know what's behind all this, except for speculations, but in this case the Military Industrial Complex, and here Israeli companies, are making money off of it. New justification for increased production of aircraft for the military, too.
tschai
Dagobah Resident
The WH is now saying- these objects may be commercial or benign, and well gee we can’t retrieve the debris just yet because it’s in difficult terrain. How convenient. So now we are shooting down commercial or benign “objects” - and the first missile fired at the Lake Huron object missed. So a half million dollars followed by another half million, to shoot down a benign object. What the heck is a benign object? Just a ufo minding its own business?! Wtaf?
(Sorry I did have a link to the NBC article, but it seems I lost it somewhere
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The WH is now saying- these objects may be commercial or benign, and well gee we can’t retrieve the debris just yet because it’s in difficult terrain. How convenient. So now we are shooting down commercial or benign “objects” - and the first missile fired at the Lake Huron object missed. So a half million dollars followed by another half million, to shoot down a benign object. What the heck is a benign object? Just a ufo minding its own business?! Wtaf?
(Sorry I did have a link to the NBC article, but it seems I lost it somewhere
White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified objects is that they were commercial or benign
These three objects have not yet been recovered, said Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, who explained that the conditions to access the debris are very difficult.
White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified objects is that they were commercial or benign
The three objects have not yet been recovered, said the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, who explained that the conditions to access the debris are very difficult.
www.nbcnews.com
A classified briefing was held in the U.S. Congress this Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:00 a.m. regarding the unknown objects shot down by the U.S. military this weekend
It will surely remain classified what was said, part of the show. Looks like another gaslighting operation
Senator James Lankford: reveals that the Classified Briefing leaves them with even more questions and that the American people deserve answers from President Joe Biden.
By the way, nothing has been said about what happened in Ohio, let alone the Nord Stream issue.
tschai
Dagobah Resident
That’s the article- Thanks @Puma!White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified objects is that they were commercial or benign
These three objects have not yet been recovered, said Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, who explained that the conditions to access the debris are very difficult.
White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified objects is that they were commercial or benign
The three objects have not yet been recovered, said the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, who explained that the conditions to access the debris are very difficult.
A classified briefing was held in the U.S. Congress this Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:00 a.m. regarding the unknown objects shot down by the U.S. military this weekend
It will surely remain classified what was said, part of the show. Looks like another gaslighting operation
Senator James Lankford: reveals that the Classified Briefing leaves them with even more questions and that the American people deserve answers from President Joe Biden.
By the way, nothing has been said about what happened in Ohio, let alone the Nord Stream issue.
tschai
Dagobah Resident
Can anyone translate what they are saying? I couldn’t tell if they were commenting on the lights in the sky. The person making the video didn’t seem totally focused on the lights, so not sure if this was an out of the ordinary thing or drones or something.
Edward Snowden
@Snowden
it's not aliens
i wish it were aliens
but it's not aliens
it's just the ol' engineered panic, an attractive nuisance ensuring natsec reporters get assigned to investigate balloon bullshit rather than budgets or bombings (à la nordstream)
until next time
@Snowden
it's not aliens
i wish it were aliens
but it's not aliens
it's just the ol' engineered panic, an attractive nuisance ensuring natsec reporters get assigned to investigate balloon bullshit rather than budgets or bombings (à la nordstream)
until next time
tschai
Dagobah Resident
The problem with anomalous lights against a black background is you can’t tell how far away or large they are- again I don’t understand what the people are saying so more information may be conveyed than I understand.
It looks like they are playing around with our paradigms. Leaving the door open just a bit for people to suspect and imagine all kinds of things. Besides being a distraction from other disasters, this event was used, it appears, to do a little war gaming around the public's reaction to UFOs. People want there to be aliens, Edward Snowden just said he wishes it was aliens. Lots of energy and excitement. The PTB will channel everything into the new, and amazing consensus reality that is not quite objective reality. What are the odds of the PTB pulling all this off without any problems?
The official narrative will be lies, and there will probably be some unofficial narratives that also do not reflect reality. People will be desperately trying to cling to something real, trying to hold onto the familiar past somehow. Seems like 2023 is going to be very significant. We will be adding to the history books and even dictionaries perhaps. I say a prayer for people, some extra light so they can see. What else can one do?
The official narrative will be lies, and there will probably be some unofficial narratives that also do not reflect reality. People will be desperately trying to cling to something real, trying to hold onto the familiar past somehow. Seems like 2023 is going to be very significant. We will be adding to the history books and even dictionaries perhaps. I say a prayer for people, some extra light so they can see. What else can one do?
That's a good point, it is a distraction but I daresay it also servers another purpose, that is, it is a perfect way to gauge people's acceptance to the idea of ET coming to save them.
And that's crucial IMO, because most people aren't considering the implications, and probably aren't really well informed about what aliens being real truly would mean. I think most of them want something exciting to happen, to live the experience, and some would consider their superior technology as proof that they "made it" past the fossil fuel era, and war era, and can save the world.
There are those who have been invested in the truth of the topic to become public knowledge, but out of respect for the truth of the matter, of an informed populace, but I think the majority of people reacting with excitement to the implications, do not fall under that category.