Alex Jones - COINTELPRO? Fascist Tool?

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“Duhhh, Stop Defending Alex Jones! This Will Never Hurt The Left, Derp Duh!”

In the controversy surrounding the coordinated corporate censorship of Alex Jones’ notorious Infowars franchise across multiple online platforms, journalist Glenn Greenwald made an under-appreciated tweet in response to the various leftists and Democrats who’ve attacked anyone objecting to the censorship as “defending Alex Jones.”

“The world’s dumbest and/or most deceitful people have always been those who equate ‘I defend X’s right to speak’ with ‘I defend X and their ideas,'” wrote Greenwald. “It’s the scummiest tactic there is. They did it to Chomsky when he opposed prosecuting a Holocaust denier.”



The tweet got mostly lost in the shuffle of warring opinions at the time, but it so perfectly summed up the general gist of the debate. Principled leftists have objected to the way a handful of Silicon Valley plutocrats have been handed unlimited authority to determine what ideas and information are suitable for public consumption and coordinate to remove the online audiences of any speaker deemed unsuitable. The fact that they started with a widely reviled speaker shouldn’t matter, the argument goes, because sooner or later the powerful people who are able to censor will begin censoring in the interests of power. This always ends up hurting the left (the actual left, not the McResistance rainbow-flag-on-a Reaper-drone “left” that is permitted a platform in mainstream America), because leftists are the political faction that stands in the most stark opposition to the status quo which holds existing power structures in place.

These few principled leftists brave enough to take a strong stand on the issue have been attacked and smeared with amazing viciousness by leftists who are blinded by their hatred of Jones, and by Democrats who know that censorship will never hurt their power-enabling faction. The position that the left is always the real target of censorship was ignored and replaced with the absurd straw man argument that anyone objecting to the coordinated de-platforming is defending Alex Jones because they love him and think Infowars is awesome.

And now, just days after these foam-brained livestock applauded the removal of Alex Jones’ audience by their beneficent Silicon Valley overlords, we are already seeing Facebook deleting the pages of leftist outlets. Imagine that.



TeleSUR English, the English version of a prominent left-leaning Latin American publication, has had its Facebook page deleted without explanation. This is the second time that Facebook has done this, and as of this writing, more than 24 hours after it was initially reported, the page is still gone.

Five days earlier, the left-leaning Facebook page of Venezuela Analysis was temporarily unpublished, reportedly just as it had a story getting high-performing circulation regarding The Guardian‘s fact-free conspiratorial false flag allegations about the attempt on President Maduro’s life.

TeleSUR, incidentally, happens to be headquartered in Venezuela, which is of course the primary topic covered by the unaffiliated Venezuela Analysis. Venezuela, incidentally, happens to have the single largest confirmed oil reserve of any nation on planet earth. It also, incidentally, happens to be the target of relentless imperialist sabotage attempts by the US-centralized power alliance. The propaganda arm of that same power alliance, incidentally, just so happens to be regulating Facebook’s content.

Oh yes indeed.



The Atlantic Council is an extremely shady NATO-aligned think tank with ties to powerful oligarchs. It’s an organization with tentacles in world-shaping events like the international response to the establishment Russia narrative, from the DNC hack to the discredited war propaganda firm Bellingcat to Russian trolls to the notorious PropOrNot blacklist publicized by the Washington Post. A couple of its lackeys happen to have attacked yours truly with a Twitter-based smear today, but no hard feelings, moving on.

Two weeks after an Atlantic Council fellow published a bizarre screed in Defense One explaining why there needs to be a “NATO of infowar” to propagandize westerners for their own good, Facebook announced that it was forming a partnership with the Atlantic Council to fight “disinformation” on the platform.

And now here they are, shutting down pages which dispute the official imperial narrative about a nation that sits firmly in the crosshairs of the US-centralized empire, and doing so with absolute impunity.

But hey, at least we shut down Alex Jones! Right guys?



I talk about narrative all the time because that really is what it’s all about. Humans are storytelling animals; if you can control the stories you can control the humans. The problem we face is that those who are controlling our stories are using them to advance power-hungry agendas that happen to be killing our ecosystem while driving us toward Orwellian dystopia and escalating tensions between two nuclear superpowers.

The plutocratic empire is held together by sheer narrative control, by the ability of ruling oligarchs to control the stories people tell each other about what’s going on in the world. The fact that trust in plutocrat-owned media is at an all-time low and people’s ability to network and share information is at an all-time high has not escaped the attention of our rulers, and they are doing everything in their power to stop us from sharing unauthorized ideas and information with each other.

This isn’t a game. We have no time to be playing around cheering for the silencing of political opponents while the noose gets tighter and tighter. In a corporate system of government, corporate censorship is state censorship, and censorship is never a friend of the left. Ever. The reality of our situation is that online dialogue has been funneled into platforms owned by billionaires with clear, demonstrable ties to government agencies, and now they’re beginning to censor that dialogue. The longer we wait to fight this, the weaker we become and the more tightly constricted our voices get.

Act now.
 
I've never really bothered with Alex Jones, I've always suspected that he's backed financially by Zionists (hence his extremely mealy-mouthed manner on the psychopathic manouverings of Israel over the years), but nevertheless it sets a very ominous precedent if we allow him to be censored.

David Icke is another example of a mind that I don't specifically agree with, but I'm still glad to see him maintaining a profile (just avoid his ramblings about the Queen being a reptile).

In all honesty, I only follow the work of Sott.net, ZeroHedge and Richard Dolan. Between these three, I get my daily bread.;-D
 
I've never really bothered with Alex Jones, I've always suspected that he's backed financially by Zionists (hence his extremely mealy-mouthed manner on the psychopathic manouverings of Israel over the years), but nevertheless it sets a very ominous precedent if we allow him to be censored.

David Icke is another example of a mind that I don't specifically agree with, but I'm still glad to see him maintaining a profile (just avoid his ramblings about the Queen being a reptile).

In all honesty, I only follow the work of Sott.net, ZeroHedge and Richard Dolan. Between these three, I get my daily bread.;-D

I don't think that is the point. Protecting free speech includes protecting that which you don't agree with. If you are going to boil frogs in the free speech arena, he would be a good target to start with. Loud and blustery. But more and more will be silenced, until they reach the ones that you agree with, and now it will be too late, because you said nothing for all the previous ones silenced.
 
Hi Hello H20.:-)

I said that the censorship of Jones sets a us on a dark path, so I fail to see what point I'm missing to be honest.
 
Hi Hello H20.:-)

I said that the censorship of Jones sets a us on a dark path, so I fail to see what point I'm missing to be honest.
Yeah didn't mean to say you were missing the point, but that most are missing the point. Sorry for the confusion.
 

I almost stopped watching Jimmy Dore after he got it so wrong about Peterson, but he gets a lot right. This is a really good piece on the whole censorship issue.
 
Trump just exposed Google and Co. for their manipulations and I think there is a good likelihood he had the Jones situation in mind there too. He surely hit the nail there and it is absolutely right to call this very dangerous. He also warns them that this will be addressed:

"Google search results for “Trump News” shows only the viewing/reporting of Fake News Media. In other words, they have it RIGGED, for me & others, so that almost all stories & news is BAD. Fake CNN is prominent. Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out. Illegal? 96% of results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media, very dangerous. Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good. They are controlling what we can & cannot see. This is a very serious situation-will be addressed!"
 
I've just spent the last two hours listening to a Joe Rogan podcast with Alex Jones as a guest. (It's over 4 hours long, and had to take a break, so I came here to write this note).

It's an absolutely fascinating interview. This is the first time I've seen Jones grapple with an interviewer of his approximate power level, and he seems far more human rather than locomotive for the first time. -A very stressed human, to be certain, especially after his being castigated by the digital overlords and shat on by the world. I really felt for the guy.

Anyway, I was surprised to find myself able to check a number of old questions off my list wrt to Jones' beliefs and biases, etc.

-He very loudly rejects the "Crisis Actors" idea, and specifically says misrepresentation about what he thought of Sandyhook was deliberately hung around his neck and used to sink him.

-He recognizes the hyper dimensional alien scheme and all it entails.

I'd vaguely thought he was a "crisis actor" guy who leaned towards a nuts & bolts UFO explanation (if he discussed UFOs at all.), and on those two false assumptions, I had more or less written him off as a noisy distraction.

However, his belief system seems to line up with nearly everything which has been settled around here. -Though I didn't realize he was the son of a deep state military father and dealt with rather a lot of weird stuff back when he was a kid. That I made me blink.

In any case, this is a rather unique look into his personality, and Rogan is the perfect interviewer because Joe is probably one of the few people on the planet who can reign Alex in and keep him grounded. (When they brought in a third interviewee, a martial arts guy they both knew, the interview became so gorilla-loaded with testosterone that I had to take a break. I'm glad I wasn't there! I'd have likely been crushed in all the mayhem.

But it's an excellent look at Jones and perhaps may answer some questions surrounding the man.

 
I watched bits and pieces of this interview and was kind of surprised at how Jones came across. I still think he's crazy, and has a tendency to lack discernment in what he gives credence to, but his overall perspective actually seemed to jibe with my own perspective; more than I would have thought, anyway.

I think his "clarification" on the crisis actors thing was a little disingenuous, though. IIR, he was pretty onboard with the whole crisis actors thing and only now seems to be back-pedaling - and even still, as far as I can tell, only in regards to Sandy Hook (I haven't watched the whole interview, mind you, so I could be wrong).

Here's a shorter clip of where he discusses the hyperdimensional aspect:
 
Watching this chat between Rogan and Jones was exhausting. I just couldn't keep up with Jones' thinking, it's like he's got too many ideas in his mind to handle, so he just vomits ideas out here there and everywhere. Joe Rogan was constantly trying to get him to slow down so he could unpack what he was saying, it was really fun to watch actually, but as I said, a bit exhausting, 'cos Jones is just full on, isn't he?

However, he did also come across as a pretty likeable bloke, albeit one who could do with reading C of Z.
 
Watching this chat between Rogan and Jones was exhausting. I just couldn't keep up with Jones' thinking, it's like he's got too many ideas in his mind to handle, so he just vomits ideas out here there and everywhere. Joe Rogan was constantly trying to get him to slow down so he could unpack what he was saying, it was really fun to watch actually, but as I said, a bit exhausting, 'cos Jones is just full on, isn't he?

However, he did also come across as a pretty likeable bloke, albeit one who could do with reading C of Z.

And as he hinted, he seems aware of having some bits of mental illness built into his head. Many of the powerful figures in our world have some kind of cross to bear.
 
And as he hinted, he seems aware of having some bits of mental illness built into his head. Many of the powerful figures in our world have some kind of cross to bear.

Yeah, he was pretty much in tears towards the end too, wasn't he? Head injuries can contribute to such conditions, by the end he was emotionally raw. Along with the whiskey and vodka consumed during the show, although I think he rather prudently eschewed the smoking of weed. Might have triggered some paranoia in him.

It must be awful to have your character torn to shreds in public discussions though. I appreciate that that's part of the whole deal when you put your neck on the media block, but even so, it's pretty painful stuff. Who'd be a public figure, eh? I certainly wouldn't.
 
Whew! I finally finished watching all four hours. That took two days!

Of the many pieces which stuck out for me and calls for further unpacking, was right near the end when he was describing a vision/past life memory he'd once experienced, he teared up in what appeared to me a very genuine and surprising gesture quite out of left field.

Strains of that reminded me of (our) Joe's recent post about Descriptions of the Afterlife. Apparently, Alex during his childhood and the kind of rough school yard games he participated in with the other kids, he spent a lot of time deliberately blacking out from having his neck arteries choked off. More than 200 times, he said! -In this, he described penetrating the veil between realities, and even seemed eager to try that same game at the very beginning of this interview! (I was kinda glad Joe Rogan stepped in to keep that whole scene under control. That was the level of energy and lack of restraint present in this interview!)

But it, and the Afterlife descriptions in (our) Joe's post offer a whole new layer/flavor of information revealed across the board for our consideration. A wave lift, perhaps providing new perspectives and ideas, affecting more areas of the world than just here? I also noted, at least in my region, that wind and storm weather had been going bananas all week while I was going through my own particular challenges. Whenever the weather goes nuts, I often kind of cringe out the window and wonder, "Who's winning?"

I had no idea that Alex Jones had been exploring the spiritual world to such a degree, (he talks about himself, the caricature people hold of him, as being his younger self when he hadn't yet worked things out properly. He'd say, "Back when I was just a young guy." -And he'd mean ten or fifteen years ago doing his podcast stuff! He's only 44 or 45, now. Sheesh! I'd never thought of him as a person before, doing the best he could to grow on his own journey. He'd always just been an ageless, eternal cartoon figure -and one which might be out to trick and hurt people. I think people spend much of their time perceiving others in this way.)

I also thought it was interesting that Joe Rogan was trying to thread a connection between a severe head injury Alex had suffered in his young adulthood and his particular mental capacities and abilities, which they agreed were quite above normal. There were similarities, I thought, in Alex's path and Laura's, albeit strewn with many different choices, but resulting in large groups intent on seeing through the illusions strewn across the world.

I would also point out that the full interview puts everything in context. This was one of those interviews where the by-subject clips seemed to me very discordant and off-putting. Perhaps simply because of the energy levels involved, going from zero to sixty at the click of a mouse button is a bit jarring. For anybody interested, I would recommend seeing the whole interview.
 
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