Alex Jones - COINTELPRO? Fascist Tool?

Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

censoredbysott said:
What exactly is wrong with Alex Jones?
Well, for one thing Alex Jones thinks he's just a big ole' spider and even Pee Wee Herman thinks that spiders are "icke." :)

http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/peeweejones.html
 
Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

I have some questions:

Question: Why doesn't Alex Jones substantiate the things he says?
After all, he claims to have documentation of EVERYTHING he says, right?
He staunchly backs Jeff Rense, someone who is "not known for his honesty", but IS known for his 'compulsive lying". This has been more than adequately demonstrated.

Question: How has Jeff Rense managed to get past Alex Jones' "sniff test" all these years?
Are we to believe Alex has been 'duped" by Rense?
Hardly...
Why does Alex Jones support and reinforce a known liar who also makes baseless, unsubstantiated claims about himself and others?

In the past month, Alex Jones contradicted himself on the subject of Israeli involvement in 9-11.
First, in an interview with 911truth.org's Mike Berger on Alex's show, he said that Israel was NOT involved. He characterized linking the two as a "poison pill".
Listen to the audio clip here: alex.mp3 (1.1MB)
(If this doesn't paste, then please email me at Wingedpiper@yahoo.com, and I will be happy to send the audio clip as an email attachment.)

A week or two later, Alex Jones called into the Piper Report on RBN and sucked up to Michael Collins Piper in a VERY transparent display. Totally disingenuous. All of a sudden, Jones is in complete agreement with Piper, saying that Israel was definitely involved, blah blah blah. The very first caller after Alex was a listener who said Alex was full of it. I doubt many people bought his shinola on this one, since he has an established pattern of avoiding the topic of Israel's involvement in 9-11. Piper certainly didn't buy his crap. I am friends with Piper, so I know this. We will be releasing a book on this very subject (Israel's role in 9-11, which is not the title) in the next few weeks.

How do you know Alex Jones doesn't profit off of manipulating public perception, fear and paranoia?
Because he says so? alex Jones is operating a large OPM racket. OPM = "Other People's Money".

Alex Jones is a LIAR. He says I'm a government agent and this is 100% FALSE. He refuses to provide any substantiation to back up his claims, even after being refuted on multiple occasions and publicly challenged to produce his PROOF. Why is this? Uhh, because he LIED?

CensoredbySott, you would be better served to stop genuflecting at the Altar of Alex and start seeing things and PEOPLE as they really are.

Have you ever wondered HOW Jones managed to gain access into Bohemian Grove? How did he manage to get past all the extremely tight security in the first place? Hmm? With a little help from his mainstream media buddies maybe?
Do you think it was "luck" or "coincidence" or the fact that Jones amazingly "outfoxed" the Bohemian Grove security detail? Hahahahahahaha..

Let me ask you all a question.

Alex Jones' website shows this address:
Alex Jones Productions
3001 S. Lamar, Suite 100
Austin, TX 78704
512-291-5750
customerservice@infowars.com

One listener in Austin, Texas, decided to mosey on over to Alex Jones Productions and guess what he found?
He found this:
The above address is not Alex Jones Productions at all. It is CASTLE DENTAL. The listener went inside the building and watched people getting their teeth cleaned through the windows. There is no "Alex Jones Productions" inside the building either. I confirmed this with a telephone call to "Alex Jones Productions" yesterday.
The man who answered said, "Castle Dental" - NOT "Alex Jones Productions"
I proceeded to ask for Alex Jones Productions and he said I had reached CASTLE DENTAL and that there was no Alex Jones there.
People also get orthodontic and peridontal work done there. They don't produce fearmonger conspiracy videos and they don't sell overpriced fearmonger T-shirts. They sell retainers and perform oral surgery.

I am currently checking out the FOLLOWING information on Alex Jones:
Address: 1011 Meredith Drive
Austin, Texas 78704
(512-291-5750

Please note that the same phone number is used for both addresses, but when you call it, you get CASTLE DENTAL. Is Alex a dentist? (cheesy grin..)
So why does Alex have an incorrect address/phone number listed on his INFOWARS website TODAY, if he has moved elsewhere? Isn't this kind of...odd?
The listener mentioned previously was going to send payment for books, videos, etc.. to CASTLE DENTAL, thinking it is really Alex Jones Productions.
The guy at Castle Dental said nobody by the name of Alex Jones is there and he doesn't know if he was ever there. Isn't that interesting?

Moreover, Alex Jones also deletes parts of his show from his archives, which people must pay for to access on the re-feed.
He has done this on multiple occasions and I have the mp3 audio clips to prove this.
People who pay to listen to the re-feed have several times not listened to the same show as the LIVE broadcast because Alex the Censor deletes selective calls from his show and then archives the altered broadcast, without TELLING people they are not getting the entire program they're paying for.

Why does anyone need Alex Jones to act as an information filter?
Why doesn't Alex Jones hold himself accountable for his own words?
Why doesn't Alex Jones respond to questions about his censorship practices, his fearmongering, or his baseless, unsubstantiated claims?
Why does Alex Jones tell LIES and why does he promote a COMPULSIVE LIAR?

See the WING TV website articles on Alex Jones here: http://www.wingtv.net/shame.html

Lisa Guliani
WING TV
 
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censoredbysott said:
Maybe someone here can explain why 99.9% of the writers and the people here do nothing but talk trash about Alex Jones.
If you are still around, can you tell what is it you get from Jones, besides adrenaline rush and a fix for the end ot the times pey per view showcase?
Jones brings Regan's ex-Economy Official to talk out loud... as if this was a very cool action! As if there were nothing wrong with this! Does Jones ask something to this ex Regan's Official about his performance while in the White House? Nah, Jones licks his arse and fill his mouth with the personality name.
How is that for objectivity?
That for a example. But in general lines, Jones explotes the yellowish style of jornalism. He uses the terror on the population to scream away his mind, which is chasing concrete targets. This targets are not those he makes his propaganda about, but localized problematics of a declared red-neck.
And he talks like that.
On the Katrina disasters, Jones spend time warning the population about the mexican army marching north ("this is happening right now, folks!" -he said) (I am mexican, mind you, and I am not defending the mexican army, but making a point): Lets leave aside the rediculous capabilities of the mexican army to take the USA. Lets leave aside the real objective the mexican army had on it's movilization into USA territory. Lets leave aside the results of this movilization. Jones was interested on awakening and feed the paranoia on american citizens. Without this, Alex Jones has no reazon to be. He lives on that. That is the purpose of the products he sells: To be ready for the imminent armagedon (for USA citizens, mind you -and for AMERICAN usa citizens, mind you).
The only objectivity one can find on Alex Jones lyes on some of the comments of his "friends" (guests) and on some of the things he repeats... to then extract what fear-factors are there to extract.
Alex Jones COINTELPRO? -You bet! And at its finest!
Now, what do you get from Jones, censoredbysott? Reazons to be?
 
Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

The Gardener said:
Jones brings Regan's ex-Economy Official to talk out loud... as if this was a very cool action! As if there were nothing wrong with this! Does Jones ask something to this ex Regan's Official about his performance while in the White House? Nah, Jones licks his arse and fill his mouth with the personality name.
How is that for objectivity?
I just watched the new clip of Jones bull-horning for 911 Truth and noticed something telling. I've heard him say this numerous times: "The government planned 911. We have the documents proving it." Hmm, what's this? Official government documents proving they planned 911? Where?! I'd like to see these!

It turns out, this is in reference to the Northwoods documents. Sorry, Jones, but you're twisting the facts! The Northwoods documents were NOT planning 911, but an event SIMILAR to 911. I doubt anyone hearing this on the street would take this seriously, as it is NOT TRUE.

Good job, Jones... Not.
 
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Hkoehli said:
I doubt anyone hearing this on the street would take this seriously, as it is NOT TRUE.
Yeah, I think that's the point. He's supposed to be this 'big man on campus' in the alternative media, and he spouts half-truths and misleading innuendo so that when the average person comes across this stuff, they think it's all garbage - thus they tend to think most, if not all, alternative media is garbage. After all, if this guy Jones is a big wheel and he's this blatantly misleading, then all alternative media is probably filled with the same type of crapola.
 
Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

There is also a strangely disturbing "fundie flavor" to Jones AND Rense.
 
Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

The "confidence" and the "courage" both use to expose their minds away (almost making of this THE central message -and it certainly is THE main attraction) is somehow the same flavor. Perhaps they have the same "friends" behind, so they both have the same feeling of being safe.

Yes, Jones yells to have the irrefutalbe proofs on his hands "right now, folks!": Where are they? What has he been able to change with his project (alienated minds aside)? How SOTT compares to Jones, Rense and others, in terms of results? This makes some go nervous. So they have to scream LOUDER now.

"The dogs bark because we are advancing, Sancho" -El Quijote.
 
Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

Some call it "the fearful truth".
Jones is a point-man, same as Ruppert.
The murder of Bill Cooper gave rise to both Jones and Ruppert.
If you notice in some of the Jones footage (London, outside Parliament, NYC in an empty parking garage, etc..), Jones is yelling into a bullhorn, but there's hardly anyone around.
Jones is the 9-11 containment cabal's version of a televangelist.
Think Elmer Gantry.
He avoids steering anyone toward the true perps.
On rare occasions, he will refer to Israel if forced to do so by pressure from his audience.
And even then, only in a limited context and of course, this is disingenuous, because as I pointed out previously, give him a week or two, and he does the 'ole "flip-flop".
Big Brother doesn't have to do anything to freak people out now.
They've got jerks like Alex Jones doing the dirty work for them.
Alex Jones = Big Brother, as far as I'm concerned.
Somebody prove me wrong.

Lisa
 
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I do not believe, for one nanosecond, relying solely upon the word of Alex Jones, that he was detained by Canadian Customs officials. Is there a photo of any aspect of this event? An official document of some kind? A verifiable and INDEPENDENT written confirmation of this alleged detainment?
I'm not talking about news articles which regurgitate the words of Alex Jones as to the actuality of this purported detainment. None of the articles I've seen thus far cite anything other than the Hollywood Jones version. I've seen now, at minimum, three different lengths of duration for this alleged detainment listed on various internet reports:
a) 4 hours
b) 12 hours
c) 15 hours

Well, which is it? How come AFP's Jim Tucker has managed to cover Bilderberg events for the last 25+ years without creating this kind of embarrassing display? All Alex Jones has to do is pronounce his intention of attending the Bilderberg event and whaddaya know? The bull runs amok in the china shop...and suddenly, the story is no longer about the Bilderberg meeting. It's all about ALEX.
Plus, (and this is the most laughable morsel), this alleged "detainment" was ORDERED by the Bilderberg Group, because...THEY ARE WATCHING ALEX JONES, they were awaiting his arrival so they could POUNCE!!
(Kinda like the oriental manservant jumped Peter Sellers in those old Pink Panther movies..BAM!!!!!!!)

Until and unless Jones coughs up some sort of undeniable, irrefutable, independently verifiable PROOF that this actually happened, I maintain that it is simply another one of his lame publicity stunts.
Everything Alex Jones DOES is a publicity stunt - and a distraction/diversion.
Instead of playing it cool and getting the REAL story (the Bilderberg meeting), like veteran newshound Jim Tucker has done with this same meeting of the elites for a quarter of a century, Alex has to show his *ss and put on yet another pathetic display, er, "production".
Is this latest "production" and the subsequent future reenactment on dvd being sponsored by Castle Dental???

Thank God for Jim Tucker, a REAL died-in-the-wool journalist.
PROOF, Alex. Cough up the PROOF.

Alex Jones Egomaniac Bilderberg Freak Show
http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/bilderberg.html
 
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lol - that's Alex for you. At least he never disappoints. It is rather ridiculous to consider that people at the level of the Bilderberg 'get togethers' would even glance in Alex's direction, but, hey, maybe he asked those who finance him for a little extra boost in credibility. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised by anything, and he and his friends have been feeling some revealing heat of late. Ahhh, the theatre continues.

[added later] - I don't know much about Jim Tucker, could you give us more info on him? You guys speak very highly of him, and when I clicked on the link all I really noticed was PayPal prompts to pay for what he's saying. Also, Victor's short article didn't reveal much on exactly what happened with Sir Alex, and, not wanting to go to Alex's site to read about it, I'm wondering if, maybe, you guys could elaborate. The article linked reads as if I already know the whole story, which is almost always not the case, so, if you could elaborate, that would be great.
 
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This I guess will be one of those very "select" info-wars media content, dedicated to the hardcore Jones fan, worthy for a 258 hours DVD full of extras.
I wonder: Why to doubth he was detained? There will be proofs (all the incomming media productions will gravitate around this). The bunny runs deeper, and I bet you, Jones was and is happy. He most have said "Than You! Thank You for stopping me!" -They gived Jones enough material.
Ah? "they gived Jones enough..."???
Well yes. I think it was gived. Granted: Perhaps the material was not ordered by Jones. But just perhaps. Those pulling the threads knows where, when, why, how and to who they "detain". "And suddenly, it is all about Alex...". Alright. It fits the purpose, no?
So you see, Tucker was not detained.
Curious this Bilderberg meeting happening a few days after the meteorite in Norway.
 
Another Alex Jones "Production"

'These guys Love Secrecy'
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/06/09/1621810-sun.html
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Also, this from Magic 8-Ball Terror Predictor Sycophant, Paul Joseph Watson

The Bilderbergs knew they were coming and arranged for immigration to detain them.

Alex Jones Detained On Orders Of Bilderberg Group
15 hours of hell at the hands of immigration who knew they were coming
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 8 2006
Alex Jones and his team were detained by Canadian immigration on orders of the Bilderberg Group for a 15 hour nightmare of interrogation, accusations and threats of arrests in anticipation of the conference in Ottawa which starts today.
The group were detained at 11:45pm last night and only released after 2pm today.
Customs openly told Alex as soon as they brought him into custody that the Bilderberg Group was aware of his arrival and that this was the reason for his detainment. All three members of the team were instantly detained despite going through different immigration desks.
Officials knew everything about Alex, even the fact that George W. Bush had once had him arrested in 1998.
"I was screamed at, I was cussed at, I was interrogated," said Alex.
Jail threats were issued as officials seized and searched through Alex's equipment for 15 hours. He was told that if any trace of pornography was found on his three computers that he would be arrested.
"They were talking about how I was a criminal - they hooked our laptop computers up and said that if they found any porn, even mainstream porn, that it's illegal to take it across lines and that we'd be going to jail," said Alex, thanking God that no trace of any porn was found on his office computers.
Searches continued throughout the night and again in the morning.
Immigrations officials seemed to take a gleeful satisfaction in detaining the team, claiming they were liars and not part of the media despite one admitting to having seen an Alex Jones documentary. Accusations of drugs and weapons smuggling were thrown around without recourse.
"You Americans shit all over us Canadians think you can do anything you want to us," said one immigration official who was acting more like a drill sergeant.
Towards the end of the ordeal national media, including the Ottawa Citizen and CBC, got wind of what was unfolding and sent journalists to the airport to talk to Alex.
A CBC journalist vouched for the fact that Alex was in the media and that she was planning on interviewing him, after also being subjected to a barrage of questions by officials.
At this point immigration officials sharply changed their attitude, reversed a likely decision to deport the team and by the end were apologetic and conciliatory about the entire issue.
Alex would like to make it clear that the immigration officials on the whole were just doing what they were told in trying to prove who Alex was and they should not be the focus of any vitriol. Alex himself admits that his behavior was not perfect and he smarted off a couple of times when he should have remained quiet. The major element of this story is that the pressure was brought to bear by Bilderberg.
The point to emphasize again is that it was brazenly stated that the Bilderberg Group were behind the decision to detain Alex and his team. Bilderberg have acquired a notorious reputation of harassing journalists, including Jim Tucker and Daniel Estulin, who are simply trying to report on a meeting of the world's most influential powerbrokers.
The immigrations officials said that their reason for detaining Alex was because they feared he was in the country to infiltrate the Bilderberg meeting.
Since being allowed to enter the country the team have been watched and tracked by several nefarious individuals and also followed by car.
The team booked a decoy hotel in order fool Bilderberg security as to their real location. The decoy hotel has been receiving numerous calls from individuals within Bilderberg's Brooke Street hotel - despite the fact that Alex told no one he was staying there.
Further reports on this incident and developments from the Bilderberg conference itself will feature here over the next few days.
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Bilderberg-bound filmmaker held at airport
http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=f67cbe75-4eed-4daf-877e-189e52d1f33c&k=12919

My question is, how did the Canadian media hear of this "detainment"?
Did they learn of it after the 'fact' via a bullhorn blast from Alex Jones?

Jim Tucker is a longstanding correspondent for American Free Press newspaper, which is based in Washington, D.C. Thorn and I met him and several other AFP reporters back in 2002 when we covered the Freedom Drive income tax protest/rally at the National Mall. They're a great bunch of guys (except for Greg Szymanski, who is full of sh*t) and Tucker has been in the business of covering Bilderberg meetings for 25+ years. His book, Bilderberg Diary, spans the spectrum of his experiences in chasing Bilderberg year after year and reads like a detective story. Bilderberg elites meet someplace different annually- and oftentimes the posh, remote resorts are owned by Rockefellers. Tucker is a seasoned journalist who has managed to outsmart the Bilderberg group every single year, in spite of their tight security measures and high level of secrecy. He apparently has a network of inside informers - people who work at the various hotels and resorts, etc.. who secretly provide him information on attendees and give him scoops. He managed to actually gain entrance inside one year and swiped someone's nametag so he could get into one of their meetings. Of course, he was recognized in short order, but it made for a great story all the same. ..:-)
Alex Jones has yet to learn what Jim Tucker has already forgotten.
AFP also has an online edition of their newspaper at AmericanFreePress.net.

Lisa
 
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One more thing: Tucker has been detained in the past for trying to cover bilderberg events. The difference between Jones and Tucker is, Tucker substantiates what he says.
I'm perfectly willing to believe Alex Jones was "detained".
Let him prove it.

Lisa
 
Another Alex Jones "Production"

The Gardener said:
The bunny runs deeper, and I bet you, Jones was and is happy. He most have said "Than You! Thank You for stopping me!" -They gived Jones enough material.
Perhaps they are also giving this 'loud mouthed bad boy' some 'street credibility' too? If they really wanted to attack him, you bet it would be done underhandedly and/or in secret.

Of course, it may all just be about conditioning the public to expect this kind of treatment as normal. It doesn't matter if it was Canadians or Americans playing the 'enforcers' - they all work for the same people anyway. They just need to follow orders. Happens everywhere.
 
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Isn't it ironic that Bilderberg Group sounds like a dentists office also?

What bugs me about the story AJ is dishing up, is the claim that the Bilderberg Group ordered Canadian customs to detain him? How would that even work?

I am starting to see a pattern here (and not just with Alex Jones): take an incident (still to be proven here), blow it out of proportion, season with assumptions, embellish, and serve it up.

In this case the Bilderberg Group is evil and bad and they hate Alex Jones. Sounds lame to me.
 
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