"Pizzagate" Explodes

I think this is interesting timing. Maybe support for Trump is the reason but my first thought was the blow up about pedophilia and contributors since Maxwell has been arrested. To much attention being given to the subject they fear. Looks like there are calls to move to Parler.


Here We Go… Twitter Bans THOUSANDS of QAnon Accounts for Some Reason… But Mostly Because They’re Pro-Trump

Twitter is banning thousands of accounts associated with the QAnon and taking aggressive new steps to limit the spread of the conspiracy theory on its platform. The company has already banned 7,000 accounts associated with conspiracy theory, and has blocked about 150,000 more from appearing in its recommendations, according to NBC News.

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on Tuesday banned THOUSANDS of QAnon accounts for some reason.
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RevChristoph said:
Just my two cents. It is not directed at anyone in particular.

We all need to do a better job on researching where we get information from. I've seen many posts in this thread, as well as the coronavirus and BLM threads, that are presenting links and info that is very questionable.

There is a lot of disinfo on both sides of any issue and that is by design. Much of it is to help create chaos, ignorance, fear and anger. It is also meant to delegitamize actual issues.

Many of us may be at different levels of awareness, life experience, or attained knowledge. There are those who have different challenges to access of information. Some things may just be 'lost in translation'. All things to keep in mind.

We can ask a few questions like 'is there anything to be gained by posting this? Am I sure this is true? If not, does it serve a purpose? Does this add to noise?'

Just something I've noticed lately, no offense meant to anyone. I just think we need to remain vigilant when it comes to research. We have to do our own research as I think it is pretty noticable that peer review in journalism is a joke (that is assuming that it exists or ever did in the first place).
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Yes. I think there is a great danger of getting sucked into all kinds of nonsense that is actually harmful to our "harmonious development", if you want to call it like that.

Besides getting better at proper research and discernment, there are a few things one can do I think - especially since nobody can get it right every time, and sometimes it's impossible to decide what is true based on research because there is so much "mud" out there:
  1. When hitting a wall, force yourself to take a break from the topic. Focus on completely different things, preferable more down to earth topics.
  2. If you notice an obsession with a particular topic, ask yourself why that is? Are you just going for a dopamine kick and looking for "spectacular" revelations? Is your research actually leading somewhere or do you just react to stuff being thrown around on the internet?
  3. Ask yourself: do you actually see any progress? Do you think you are gaining a deeper understanding of reality, yourself, and your relation to reality? In which way?
  4. When you do post about such topics here, can you describe your thoughts and feelings/what's going on inside you? Can you connect the information to other things and topics?
  5. When you are getting lost in the crazy online world, read a book. It could be related to the topic at hand (in this case for example the books about the criminal mind, Raine's work on the physiological basis of crime etc.) or it could be totally unrelated. Reading a book can really ground your thinking and bring you back to real research and making an effort, as opposed to just operating the giant slot machine called the internet. It's so important to switch gears once in a while and go on a tangent instead of trying to tackle a topic head-on when clearly it doesn't seem to go anywhere at the moment.
 
RevChristoph said:
Just my two cents. It is not directed at anyone in particular.

We all need to do a better job on researching where we get information from. I've seen many posts in this thread, as well as the coronavirus and BLM threads, that are presenting links and info that is very questionable.

There is a lot of disinfo on both sides of any issue and that is by design. Much of it is to help create chaos, ignorance, fear and anger. It is also meant to delegitamize actual issues.

Many of us may be at different levels of awareness, life experience, or attained knowledge. There are those who have different challenges to access of information. Some things may just be 'lost in translation'. All things to keep in mind.

We can ask a few questions like 'is there anything to be gained by posting this? Am I sure this is true? If not, does it serve a purpose? Does this add to noise?'

Just something I've noticed lately, no offense meant to anyone. I just think we need to remain vigilant when it comes to research. We have to do our own research as I think it is pretty noticable that peer review in journalism is a joke (that is assuming that it exists or ever did in the first place).
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luc said:
Yes. I think there is a great danger of getting sucked into all kinds of nonsense that is actually harmful to our "harmonious development", if you want to call it like that.

Besides getting better at proper research and discernment, there are a few things one can do I think - especially since nobody can get it right every time, and sometimes it's impossible to decide what is true based on research because there is so much "mud" out there:
  1. When hitting a wall, force yourself to take a break from the topic. Focus on completely different things, preferable more down to earth topics.
  2. If you notice an obsession with a particular topic, ask yourself why that is? Are you just going for a dopamine kick and looking for "spectacular" revelations? Is your research actually leading somewhere or do you just react to stuff being thrown around on the internet?
  3. Ask yourself: do you actually see any progress? Do you think you are gaining a deeper understanding of reality, yourself, and your relation to reality? In which way?
  4. When you do post about such topics here, can you describe your thoughts and feelings/what's going on inside you? Can you connect the information to other things and topics?
  5. When you are getting lost in the crazy online world, read a book. It could be related to the topic at hand (in this case for example the books about the criminal mind, Raine's work on the physiological basis of crime etc.) or it could be totally unrelated. Reading a book can really ground your thinking and bring you back to real research and making an effort, as opposed to just operating the giant slot machine called the internet. It's so important to switch gears once in a while and go on a tangent instead of trying to tackle a topic head-on when clearly it doesn't seem to go anywhere at the moment.
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Thank you @RevChristoph and @luc !
I think those are good points to remind, especially in this kind of topics.
I thought it may be good to put a copy of your posts above in this thread Improving the forum experience for users

What do you all think? IMO it could be useful for everyone.
Anyway I'll keep your list of advices in mind as it's easy to get lost in such hard news :-)
 
aragorn said:
After Isaac Kappy’s death I got semi-obsessed in researching the incident, and one important lesson that I learned through this was that when these things happen theres a huge upsurge of sock-puppets, wannabes and professional distractors on social media. Some are looking for fame and followers (one guy was a musician who ‘feared for his life’ as he streamed from his basement), some are just plain crazy and then there are the pro deceivers who will muddy the waters so completely that it’s impossible to know the truth anymore.
This is exactly what happened after Kappy’s death. There were ‘amateur investigators’ visiting the scene and surroundings, doing interviews with witnesses (who could never be contacted again because they ‘feared for their lives’). One Twitter guy even got ‘suicided’ by hanging, but survived etc.

It’s impossible to know what of this was true and what not, and that’s probably by design. I’m amazed by the professionalism of some of the deceivers. For the record, based on Kappy’s own talks, I do not think he killed himself. There clearly was foul play, but sadly, as I see it, there’s little chance that we will ever know the truth.
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Yes it is a minefield out there.
One can never really know the truth.
I think I will take a break from all this.
Recoup and recharge.
It’s all one huge ‘Alice Down the Rabbit Hole’
 
Ocean said:
Yes it is a minefield out there.
One can never really know the truth.
I think I will take a break from all this.
Recoup and recharge.
It’s all one huge ‘Alice Down the Rabbit Hole’
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I've been down this rabbit hole some 3 ya with Isaac Kappy and Q showing up. Confirming my suspicions how things that I ran into, in my own life, actually exist on a world wide scale as a rule in this society, not an exception. I was even in a private chat group with Kappy and talked to him a bit, he was a messed up individual and a deeply troubled soul, who naively thought (just like I did once before) how he can get the Truth out and do some Good without confronting his own wrongdoings. That was his downfall, that's why he was allowed to say anything in the first place, cause 'they' knew he couldn't pull it off without admitting his part in it. And when he was so miserable, in his last days, with nothing else to loose, after being 'exposed' by Fiona as a 'fraud' and circles closing in all around him, that he was getting ready to come clean in public, to confess ALL - he died.

That's why none of the so called celebrities step out and say the Truth, more accurately - the lower level ones, which are still somewhat struggling with the path they are on. I'm pretty sure none of the major ones have any problem with it. They are famous for the reason.

This rabbit hole also extends to all the politicians, major CEOs, managers, bankers etc. Every 'powerful' person on this planet was involved and participated in some sort of soul humiliating ritual, which is then used against them as a control handle. It's just how things are done. And they are done that way cause it works. Does it really matter what exactly they've done, individually speaking, when or how? I think by now you are pretty much aware of the wide specter of evil, spread through those circles, if you look at it long enough you will find this evil starring back at you, in your own life and from my own experience, I can tell you how it's not meant for the lighthearted.

Also, seeking or expecting justice by law for 'their sins' is a bit naive, in my own view. I could be wrong, but I don't actually care about it. This world is going through a change which is already beyond such things. 'The horses are out the gate'! :cool2: There is no way to repair this world with this wordly manners. I know it's difficult to comprehend but everything in our current society was built on a false premise. Rare things which were not- were then quickly obscured and spoiled, twisted to fit the main narrative, which all this experience is telling. On and on and on... And it's an important lesson to hear, cause if we refuse to admit it, to finally SEE THE TRUTH screaming at us through all the lies thrown around, then there's not much God/DCM can do to help us to finally understand the difference.

In some strange way, demanding and seeking earthly justice at this point in time seems to me as the opposite of Truth, going along with the other's team agenda. BLM and Q are the perfect examples of it. What justice would that be, exactly? How far to go, how much is enough?!? Bigger play is being played, it's not about correcting things or punishing people, it's about an unstoppable process of self exposing and then burning all the lies, individual and group ones, in a cosmic flame. If one tries to 'correct' he/she is interrupting the main play and intention/point of it all. It has to go on, the fall of this false empire, this long coming universal dance in order to discern, conclude and move on to the next stage. That's my view, anyway, hope it helps. :)
 
Color said:
Also, seeking or expecting justice by law for 'their sins' is a bit naive, in my own view. I could be wrong, but I don't actually care about it. This world is going through a change which is already beyond such things. 'The horses are out the gate'! :cool2: There is no way to repair this world with this wordly manners.
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I believe Gurdjieff said something similar to: sometimes to change one thing in this world, everything must change.
 
SummerLite said:
Twitter is banning thousands of accounts associated with the QAnon and taking aggressive new steps to limit the spread of the conspiracy theory on its platform. The company has already banned 7,000 accounts associated with conspiracy theory, and has blocked about 150,000 more from appearing in its recommendations, according to NBC News.
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I wonder if the Trump thing isn't an cover for something else. I must admit to be interested in this mechanism of 'banning' a 'conspiracy' theory (because of course they're sooo dangerous). :-P

It might lend it legitimacy.

If you ban something, it can backfire becoming either more popular (because of more interest), or the group behind it becomes more angry, resistive, and then decides that those banning them deserves their full attention. It may become problematic.

The people they ban are not without resources, intelligence, and yes, it is possible there could be some backlash. :scared:
It amuses me when 'bansters' 'shoot themselves in the foot'.
 
Former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick ran a sex ring of underage boys at a beach house on the Jersey Shore, a new lawsuit claims.

“I’m not as bad as they paint me. I do not believe that I did the things that they accused me of,” he said.

Former Cardinal McCarrick ran sex ring at New Jersey beach house, lawsuit says
July 22, 2020 - The suit, filed by a man using the pseudonym Doe 14, claims that in 1982 and 1983, when he was as young as 14 years old, he and other victims were taken on weekend overnight trips to a Sea Girt beach house.

“McCarrick assigned sleeping arrangements, choosing his victims from the boys, seminarians and clerics present at the beach house,” according to the suit filed in state court under New Jersey’s Child Victims Act.

“On these occasions, minor boys were assigned to different rooms and paired with adult clerics.”

The victim claims that he fell into McCarrick’s clutches in 1982 through Brother Andrew Hewitt, who was then principal at Essex Catholic Boy’s High School. Hewitt allegedly abused Doe. He also introduced McCarrick to Doe as someone who could help pay the boy’s school tuition, the suit claims.

At the time, McCarrick was Bishop of the Archdiocese of Metuchen. He became a cardinal in February of 2001. Hewitt died in 2002.

The suit names other members of the Catholic Church who also allegedly abused Doe. It alleges that McCarrick steadily climbed the hierarchy of the church despite being dogged by accusations of abuse for decades. The Archdiocese of Newark, which is named in the suit, did not respond to an inquiry.

In 2018, McCarrick, 90, became the first cardinal in nearly a century to resign from his position following his suspension for a credible sexual abuse allegation involving an altar boy in New York. He’s denied wrongdoing.

The New York Daily News has previously reported on postcards McCarrick sent to boys that experts say had the hallmarks of grooming.
The new suit is not the first to reference the beach house.

In an interview with Slate last year, McCarrick said he believed his accusers had been manipulated by his “enemies” to come up with similar stories involving abuse on the Shore.
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Last month: Disney World employees among 16 men arrested in child pornography sting
More than a dozen men in central Florida, including two Walt Disney World employees, have been arrested as part of a sting operation that targeted child pornography distributors.

Justin Hazan, 32, and roommate Arlandres Sims, 36, were among the 16 men arrested by the Polk County Sheriff’s Office and charged with a collective 1,409 felonies for possession and distribution of child pornography, Sheriff Grady Judd announced during Tuesday’s press conference. The sting was known as “Operation Guardians of Innocence V.”

Hazan, who was charged with 15 counts of possession of child pornography, operated the Millennium Falcon: Smuggler’s Run ride at Disney’s Hollywood Studios.

Sims, who worked as a food runner at Animal Kingdom Resort, was charged with 25 counts of possession of child pornography.
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Among other perpetrators were a pharmacist, a nurse, and an 18-year-old who had pictures of victims as young as 6 months old.
 
In a Mexican tourist city, a scandal widens over abducted children, forced labor
July 22, 2020 - A scandal involving the abduction and exploitation of young children in a colonial Mexican city popular with tourists widened Wednesday when prosecutors released additional evidence that an adult apparently used other children to help kidnap a missing 2-year-old boy.

The search for Dylan Esaú Gómez Pérez led prosecutors in southern Chiapas state, on the Guatemalan border, to a house in San Cristobal de las Casas where 23 abducted children were being kept in deplorable conditions and forced to sell trinkets and handicrafts in the street. But Dylan, who turns 3 in November, was not among them.

Reviewing surveillance cameras, state prosecutor Jorge Llaven said that a boy and a girl, both apparently around 12, were seen talking to a woman who is a suspect in the June 30 abduction. Llaven identified the woman as only as “Ofelia,” and offered a $13,500 reward for information about the location of her or the missing boy.

In photos from cameras, the boy and the girl enter the public market where Dylan’s mother worked in the colonial city. Dylan appears to follow the boy, and then the girl takes Dylan by the back of the jacket and walks out of the market with him. The girl is later seen returning alone, apparently having handed the missing boy over to someone else.

Llaven said Tuesday that a search carried out Monday, apparently related to Dylan’s disappearance, had revealed a house where children — most between 2 and 15 years old, but three infants aged between 3 and 20 months — were forced to sell things on the street.

“Moreover, they were forced to return with a certain minimum amount of money for the right to get food and a place to sleep at the house,” Llaven said.

San Cristobal is a picturesque, heavily Indigenous city that is popular among tourists. It is not unusual to see children and adults hawking local crafts like carvings and embroidered cloth on its narrow cobblestone streets.

But few visitors to the city suspected that some of the kids doing the selling had been snatched from their families.

The Chiapas state prosecutors’ office said in a statement the children “were forced through physical and psychological violence to sell handicrafts in the center of the city,” adding the kids showed signs of “malnutrition and precarious conditions.”

According to video presented by the prosecutors, many of them slept on what appeared to be sheets of cardboard and blankets on a cement floor. Three other women have been detained in that case and may face human trafficking and forced labor charges.

Dylan was with his mother, Juana Pérez, at the market on the day he was snatched.

Pérez, who traveled to Mexico City to ask President Andrés Manuel López Obrador to help find her son, works at the market selling fruit and vegetables. She said her son would sometimes wander off to play, but that no children had ever been snatched from the market before.

The boy’s father emigrated to California to find work, and thus Pérez, 23, has had to care for Dylan and his sister by herself.
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Not a good time to be a pedophile in kazakhstan. If only they were deal similarly around the world.

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WATCH: Hunt for suspected PEDOPHILE descends into chaos in Kazakhstan

Angry mobs ready to lynch a suspected pedophile raged in the central Kazakh city of Satpayev, as they hunted for a man who allegedly abducted and raped an underage girl.
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Angry mobs ready to lynch a suspected pedophile raged in the central Kazakh city of Satpayev, as they hunted for a man who allegedly abducted and raped an underage girl.
People conducted an all-out search through the city in a door-to-door manhunt after a 5-year-old girl went missing late Thursday, Interior Minister Yerlan Turgumbayev said.
After receiving an emergency call from the girl’s father, local police joined the search, and a few hours later found the girl in an apartment in a high-rise building. Upon undergoing a medical examination, she was reunited with her mother and the alleged kidnapper was apprehended. A criminal case regarding kidnapping and rape has been opened.
Footage obtained by RT shows an angry crowd apparently throwing rocks and smashing windows. According to police, disorder started after the officers refused to hand the alleged pedophile over to the crowd which wanted to lynch him on the spot.


After police drove the kidnapper away, the crowd marched toward the city administration building, setting police cars on fire on the way. The city calmed down by Friday morning after national guard reinforcements were deployed. No casualties were reported.

President of Kazakhstan Kassym-Jomart Tokayev called an extraordinary meeting over Friday night’s events in Satpayev. He urged local authorities to pay “special attention” to the social and economic needs of the people and demanded the public be informed about the results of the criminal investigation.

Last week, a Kazakh policeman, while chasing another suspected pedophile, followed him by jumping from the 13th floor in Almaty, the country’s largest city. He not only survived but managed to catch the suspect.
 
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