Well yes, claims are not being made - as in some places - that the Queen is a shapeshifting reptile. Isn't it true though that we continually suppose the influence of the so called 4dSTS?There's a difference: we are not pointing to or entertaining any evidence of "reptilian beings" walking down the street or hiding under the British Royal family's skin. Our theories in that regard are just that, theories, and rather abstract ones.
Isn't one of the foundational viewpoints - as to the regards of the nature of this reality - held on this forum the idea of us "going for the gold through the door" and consequently getting trapped in the workings of 4dSTS manipulations? Is there any actual proof this?
Aren't comments constantly being made all over the forum about the possible involvement of 4dSTS at every turn of our lives? We openly hypothesize about how or why they might be doing what they're doing. Concrete proof will always of course be elusive on such an abstract topic.
This is what I feel I'm doing to the best of my capabilities. I don't have many "passions" in my life, music and the written word could rank somewhere close to being considered a "passion", but nothing stirs my internal fire more than the quest for the truth. As you point out, my way of going about The Quest, is my own, as your way is your own.It is through this process that we progressively refine that value system and in doing so define what is the truth. In short, the same thing everyone else is doing, in their own way and based on their essential nature(s).
The reason for my joining the forum was precisely this; to associate more closely with others who I perceive to have this same urge to get to the bottom of things, and to share my own perspectives as the number of people I can have these conversations with on a regular basis face-to-face are limited to the low single digits.
In my introductory post - after having lurked for a short time - I believe I even made a remark about how positively surprised I was about the "general level of consciousness" to be found on the forum. People who are self-aware (at least judging from the way they write about themselves) and willing to help others become more so also. Willing to question everything, in regards to themselves and the nature of our reality. Awesome, just what I want to be doing as well.The extent of the meaning in any contribution is directly proportional, it seems, to a person's willingness to question their own assumptions, which in itself is a function of the 'purity' of their desire to know what *actually* IS rather than what they would whimsically like to believe.
As I'm trying to make clear, the 'purity' of my desire to know what *actually* IS, is in my own perspective not up for debate. I'm constantly occupying my mind with thoughts that are aimed towards understanding the difference of the subjective and the objective.
I don't "whimsically like to believe" the world be neither flat nor a globe. If anything I'm trying to find out my core beliefs (about anything and everything) and understand why they're there in the first place. Then cross-reference my beliefs with what I actually perceive through my own senses to try to inch my way towards an objective understanding.
As the C's have also said, paraphrasing: Our greatest capacity to alter our reality lies in accessing our belief center.
So with that in mind, couldn't there be truth in the comment made by riccadus:
If our beliefs are in fact altering the shape and form and our experience of reality, is it then too big of a conjecture to think that if billions of people believe something to be true, then the objective reality, whatever that is, will appear subjectively in accordance with the peoples' beliefs?Is the nature of the earth dependant on the consensus belief of the inhabitants at any point in time?
If our beliefs in fact have the power to alter reality, are we altering the objective reality? If we only alter our subjective experience by altering our beliefs, then how does that help us come closer to objectivity?