War in Israel-Palestine - October 2023

[A Jay]

Sorry for the jumble of topics, it was a way to deal with so much bullshit.

And it is that. The statement from the World Central Kitchen says the aid workers worked with the IDF to let them know where they were going, when, in what vehicles, and so on:

According to the NGO, its staff members were attacked in the town of Deir al-Balah in central Gaza as they were leaving a warehouse after unloading tons of food aid earlier delivered to the Palestinian enclave by sea.

The aid workers were traveling through a de-conflicted zone in two armored cars with the WCK logo on them as well as a soft skin vehicle, the NGO said. The convoy was struck despite WCK coordinating its movements with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), the statement read.

This leaves little doubt about whether or not it could have been an accident as there's no way the Israelis didn't know what they were blowing up. Question is, why? The NGO delivering 32 million meals since the Israeli's have unleashed Hell on the Palestinians post-Oct. 7th probably has something to do with it.

As the editor comment at the end of the above linked SOTT article states:

This was obviously no accident. But what better way to stop an organization from delivering much needed food than by killing a few people, calling it an accident, and having the organization stop of its own accord.

 

[mabar]

As the editor comment at the end of the above linked SOTT article states:

This was obviously no accident. But what better way to stop an organization from delivering much needed food than by killing a few people, calling it an accident, and having the organization stop of its own accord.

Psychopaths as they are have to pretend to show concern.
The main purpose of the attack wasn't just WCK, other countries had halted aid as well.

Israel's plan to deploy troops from Arab countries in Gaza aims to stamp out Hamas. So, Israel wants Arab countries to do the dirty job.

Israel wants multi-national security force in Gaza – Axios

Israel is reportedly mulling deploying a multi-national military force to Gaza in order to provide security in the enclave

www.rt.com

They were just preparing details to enter Rafah, the NGOs were in their way, they could not kill discriminating so much.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

The US does not stop to support Israel in killing civilians.

Biden Administration Urges Congress to Approve Sale of F-15 Jets to Israel - Reports

The administration of US President Joe Biden is urging Congress to approve the sale of F-15 fighter jets to Israel worth a total of $18 billion, while resisting calls to curb US arms sales to the Jewish state over its military offensive in the Gaza Strip, US media reported, citing US officials.

sputnikglobe.com

 

[Puma]

It is announced that Iran will attack Israel within 48 hours, apparently the source of this information comes from the CIA.

I am looking for more information

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775562518024388958

 

[Evan]

^^” Khazarians are on the run with no territory left to claim as their own since they have always wanted Palestine since the 1940s.”
Love how they squeezed that in there!

 

[Joe]

It is announced that Iran will attack Israel within 48 hours, apparently the source of this information comes from the CIA.

I am looking for more information

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Meh, I don't think Iran will do anything. They have always swallowed such events and responded merely with rhetoric.

 

[iamthatis]

It is announced that Iran will attack Israel within 48 hours, apparently the source of this information comes from the CIA.

I am looking for more information

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Maybe, but if something happens it will be more like Israel will attack Israel within 48 hours:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775561162899521774

Historically, Israel has been rewarded for aggression and violence, but the one thing they were never able to accomplish for the Neocons was a war with Iran; and maybe, if they can succeed in finally making that happen, they hope they can revive the old system, and together avert the emergence of a new global order led by BRICS.

 

[Alejo]

And it is that. The statement from the World Central Kitchen says the aid workers worked with the IDF to let them know where they were going, when, in what vehicles, and so on:

And not only that, they also informed the IDF after their first vehicle was attacked about who they were, and what had happened, and this only lead to their second vehicle being attacked, they informed the IDF again.. and this only lead to their third vehicle being attacked.

IDF's response via Hareetz is that the IDF thought there was a Hamas combatant in the vehicle, so that justifies killing people, a suspicion.

 

[Windmill knight]

IDF's response via Hareetz is that the IDF thought there was a Hamas combatant in the vehicle, so that justifies killing people, a suspicion.

Yet they also said it was a mistake. So which one is it? Did they intentionally mean to attack because they thought there was a Hamas combatant in there, or was it a 'mistake'? Or was the mistake thinking that the Hamas person was there? In that case, they also did attack the WCK vehicles quite intentionally, so that part was still not a mistake. Never mind, Israel doesn't bother too much getting its stories straight, since it has the habit of getting away with anything.

 

[Jebra]

It was a mistake that it got into the press and now the world knows. But they achieved their objective as now the charity is not operating in Gaza now and other charities that may still be on the ground will probably be scared enough to pull out too. Can't have the press recording what they are doing, and can't have charities helping their victims. The 'Hamas terrorist' in the convoy is just an excuse.

 

[Windmill knight]

It was a mistake that it got into the press and now the world knows. But they achieved their objective as now the charity is not operating in Gaza now and other charities that may still be on the ground will probably be scared enough to pull out too. Can't have the press recording what they are doing, and can't have charities helping their victims. The 'Hamas terrorist' in the convoy is just an excuse.

Exactly. As others mentioned before, the whole point was to "invite" foreign observers to 'f*** off' so they can finish the dirty genocidal job in Rafah with as little witnesses as possible. Disgusting.

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

From telegram's channel Intel Slava :

— Over the past 3 days, it is being reported that a Massive GPS Disruption is taking place over Israel, Lebanon, the Palestinian Territories and Cyprus

It happens in a crucial moment of the Gaza War and as Israel and Iran prepares for a major escalation in the region

— Israeli Army Radio reports that the GPS disruptions have also reached the center of the Israel, with Israeli residents in the central Tel Aviv report that the GPS are now placing them in Beirut

Israeli pages claim that it may be the preparation of an attack on the Israeli homeland that may be imminent.

 

[Ryan]

Meh, I don't think Iran will do anything. They have always swallowed such events and responded merely with rhetoric.

Agreed. For all Iran's talk of supporting Palestine, it's looking like the Palestinians will be wiped out (the West Bank is only a matter of time) and Iran will have stood by the whole time without lifting a finger.

 

[iamthatis]

Technology IA​

‘The Gospel’: how Israel uses AI to select bombing targets in Gaza​

Israel has been using AI to generate targets to strike during its war on the Gaza Strip.​

The war which broke out after Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on 7 October has given Israel the opportunity to “use [AI] in a much wider theatre of operations and, in particular, to deploy an AI target-creation platform called ‘the Gospel,’ which has significantly accelerated a lethal production line of targets that officials have compared to a ‘factory,’” the outlet reported.
Israel’s military has made no secret of the intensity of its bombardment of the Gaza Strip. In the early days of the offensive, the head of its air force spoke of relentless, “around the clock” airstrikes. His forces, he said, were only striking military targets, he added: “We are not being surgical.”
According to The Guardian, the Gospel AI platform has played “a central role”The platform works to produce targeting recommendations The Gospel system, according to the Israeli army, generates targets at a quick pace and reduces the chances of civilian casualties. However, AI experts cited by The Guardian say they are skeptical. Richard Moyes, a researcher who heads the Article 36 campaign group, said:
“Look at the physical landscape of Gaza. We’re seeing the widespread flattening of an urban area with heavy explosive weapons, so to claim there’s precision and narrowness of force being exerted is not borne out by the facts.” noting that they “don’t necessarily know how the list has been created or have the ability to adequately interrogate and question the targeting recommendations.”
“There is a danger that as humans come to rely on these systems, they become cogs in a mechanized process and lose the ability to consider the risk of civilian harm in a meaningful way,” he added.

‘The Gospel’: how Israel uses AI to select bombing targets in Gaza

Concerns over data-driven ‘factory’ that significantly increases the number of targets for strikes in the Palestinian territory

www.theguardian.com

There is a report detailing another AI system called 'Lavendar', in addition to 'The Gospel' both of which generate kill lists for the Zionists. There is another component called 'Where's Daddy'. It's all very disturbing. I haven't read the full thing yet, but the authors go into detail. Basically, there's more than one AI operating in the Gaza kill zone, and the role of human military personnel is to check the kill list, and give it a green light or not.

‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing spree in Gaza

The Israeli army has marked tens of thousands of Gazans as suspects for assassination, using an AI targeting system with little human oversight and a permissive policy for casualties, +972 and Local Call reveal.

www.972mag.com

This may dig into the following question:

Yet they also said it was a mistake. So which one is it? Did they intentionally mean to attack because they thought there was a Hamas combatant in there, or was it a 'mistake'? Or was the mistake thinking that the Hamas person was there? In that case, they also did attack the WCK vehicles quite intentionally, so that part was still not a mistake. Never mind, Israel doesn't bother too much getting its stories straight, since it has the habit of getting away with anything.

Basically, it could be that military AI targeted the vehicles. So they say 'it was a mistake' because it was a computer glitch.

 

[iamthatis]

Agreed. For all Iran's talk of supporting Palestine, it's looking like the Palestinians will be wiped out (the West Bank is only a matter of time) and Iran will have stood by the whole time without lifting a finger.

Yeah, could be. Maybe Iran doing nothing is in its best interests, according to Brian Berletic.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1774909699231736025

Points Regarding Israeli Strike on Iranian Consulate in Damascus

- The US is out of time in the Middle East, the number of proxies and their viability is waning, including Israel;

-Israel has a number of nuclear weapons, the window is quickly closing to ever use them;

- The US is trying to provoke a war with Iran via Israel that could potentially open an opportunity for Israel to use those weapons;

- While the demand for revenge will be high, Iran will best serve its long-term interests including ultimate victory by showing restraint and not giving the US and Israel the pretext they're trying to create...

- The US and its remaining proxies have never been so desperate and it is precisely because Iran, Syria, Russia, and Hezbollah are playing the long game better and more sustainably than the US.

Wise leadership always chooses long-term victory over short-term revenge.

Plus, I'm not sure if it can be said Iran is doing nothing. The attacks on US bases in various parts of the ME, as well as the Houthi shutdown of Israel's economy - how much of this originates in Tehran?

Russia also looked like it was doing nothing for years when the Ukronazis were firing on the Donbas. Could be a similar long game strategic game played here as it was there.