Thanks everyone! This has turned into an interesting discussion. So I actually like the Orville a little better now that they've toned down the slap stick humor. It still has enough humor without feeling likes it's a comedy in a sci-fi setting.
The C's said once that we could partake of various entertainment as long as we kept orientation in mind. Now there's some stuff that's just too unredeemable for me to watch like Shameless. But most stuff is nuanced. Writers will most definitely have agendas or influences. That's almost a given as artistic types tend to lean left. But they can also have insight. One can enjoy the writing in a show. One can enjoy the acting or the cinematography. There can be one or more really great scenes in a show. One show that comes to mind was called Seven Seconds on Netflix that had some really good scenes throughout. Written by a female Canadian born writer who also wrote The Killing,
which was also very good. Although very moody, dark, but realistic.
I became a fan of Idris Elba through the show Luther on Netflix. Another one that was quite dark, but the writing and acting is fantastic. Everyone I've recommended it to has really liked it as well.
So yeah, I think it really depends on the viewer. How much awareness does the viewer have? Is the viewer relating to elements of the show that are definitely STS in nature and taking it in as true?
The one thing that really is unfortunate is this seeming 'need' or compulsion, or wanting to be current with the times, or whatever it is to put dramatic and explicit gay scenes in practically everything. I mean fine if done occasionally. But I don't really want to see two dudes macking on each other in every show I watch. Maybe that just me though...
The C's said once that we could partake of various entertainment as long as we kept orientation in mind. Now there's some stuff that's just too unredeemable for me to watch like Shameless. But most stuff is nuanced. Writers will most definitely have agendas or influences. That's almost a given as artistic types tend to lean left. But they can also have insight. One can enjoy the writing in a show. One can enjoy the acting or the cinematography. There can be one or more really great scenes in a show. One show that comes to mind was called Seven Seconds on Netflix that had some really good scenes throughout. Written by a female Canadian born writer who also wrote The Killing,
which was also very good. Although very moody, dark, but realistic.
I became a fan of Idris Elba through the show Luther on Netflix. Another one that was quite dark, but the writing and acting is fantastic. Everyone I've recommended it to has really liked it as well.
So yeah, I think it really depends on the viewer. How much awareness does the viewer have? Is the viewer relating to elements of the show that are definitely STS in nature and taking it in as true?
The one thing that really is unfortunate is this seeming 'need' or compulsion, or wanting to be current with the times, or whatever it is to put dramatic and explicit gay scenes in practically everything. I mean fine if done occasionally. But I don't really want to see two dudes macking on each other in every show I watch. Maybe that just me though...