More Hydrogen tech

[Azur]

Incredibly this appeared on Fox.

Originally conceived for cutting metal, he ran his car on a modifed system. Drove 100 miles on FOUR ounces of water.

Unfortunately, he is designing systems for Hummers, i.e. the military, so it's unlikely he will be unfettered to produce it for the public.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=J9iWaCMbw60

 

[arkmod]

Incredibly this appeared on Fox.

And that is a sufficient reason not to believe a word. Don't you know it?

 

[Azur]

Incredibly this appeared on Fox.

And that is a sufficient reason not to believe a word. Don't you know it?

Yes, I found it troubling to my recent set of pre-conceived beliefs about Fox. (Obviously, I have a bias that this story be for real).

But the gentleman has a company that can be followed up on, and he did demonstrate it (okay, it is possible to fake on video, but I fail to see the end game of faking this).

However, the first thing to do would be to follow up with this gent (this I am doing). Then, if his claims are demonstrable, or he is everything he says he is (he mentioned he applied for patents, which is verifiable).

If everything checks out, then we can all be amazed that Fox showed it, and sit around wondering what it all means.

Whether Fox, Abc, or any other misrepresenting media outlet is involved, information presented should be verified. If it cannot, file it away (in quarantine) until it can be verified.

If this "breakthrough" is indeed what it is, I've got an interest in it and will persue it, regardless of who reported it.

Fair enough?

 

[ark]

But the gentleman has a company that can be followed up on, and he did demonstrate it (okay, it is possible to fake on video, but I fail to see the end game of faking this).

Standard COINTELPRO desinformation technique.

However, the first thing to do would be to follow up with this gent (this I am doing). Then, if his claims are demonstrable, or he is everything he says he is (he mentioned he applied for patents, which is verifiable).

To get a patent the thing does not have to work at all. See the story of Col. Tom Bearden

If everything checks out, then we can all be amazed that Fox showed it, and sit around wondering what it all means.

It means probably the same as Tom Bearden - see

http://www.phact.org/e/z/beardenreview.htm

and more hoaxes here

http://www.phact.org/phactum.html

 

[eightfold]

Hmmm... what this guy calls HHO gas is the same thing that Blacklight Power, Inc. (www.blacklightpower.com) has reported in 65 peer reviewed papers and at their website in the tech section. They explain the whole process and it is very real.

This torch system and car conversion is just another application, yet the primary application that the Gov wants to cover up is the FREE energy that is released from the Hydrino resonant transfer plasmas - in the form of UV light and heat. R-T plasmas transduce infrasound into free heat and light!!! Pyr-a-mid means 'fire in the middle' - pyramids focus infrasound into the fires of r-t plasma in the interior chambers!

My previous post entitled '4th Denity in a Bottle' goes into it some as well, as does my website on a few different pages:

www.humanresonance.org/blacklight.html
www.humanresonance.org/mana.html
www.humanresonance.org/huashan.html

Also HHO or HOH gas was already given as a clue to 4th density by the C's on Aug 8, 2001 - HOH 35353535.
I would be happy answer any questions Azur may have as well as give Ark further impetus to comment on my ideas.

in lak'ech,

Alex Putney

 

[Mark]

in lak'ech,

Seems as though you posted a riddle (or maybe it's bait) before you signed post. So what the hell is lak'ech?

 

[Niall]

what the hell is lak'ech?

I think it's an ancient Mayan greeting.

Alex, if you want to engage us with your work in order to share information and test hypotheses, by all means. But in cross-posting essentially the same material over and over again, I suspect you're breaking forum rules regarding spamming.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=822.msg4356#msg4356

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=841

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1109&p=2

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1201.msg5627#msg5627

[Snippet]

The deep knowledge of this shift in consciousness, when combined with the knowledge of the sacred Sanskrit calendars kept by the Maya, reveal the link between human consciousness and the solar system culminating with the magnetic reversal of 2012.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3311.msg20912#msg20912

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg20915#msg20915

I'll tell ya somethin ya don't know!!

The control pressure of the STS is now really on because we NOW have free energy from Hydrino resonant-transfer plasmas (www.blacklightpower.com) which were once used by ancient people in caves all over the world. Sounds unlikely?

Well... scientists do not know how light was being produced in the chambers of the Huashan hills, China (www.humanresonance.org/huashan.html) or at La Mana, Ecuador (www.humanresonance.org/mana.html) as no firepits or soot on the ceilings could be found whatsoever. Maybe sound waves were being focused into these areas on the 30th latitude and the equator by the pyramids of the world, lighting the caves with hydrino r-t plasmas that transduce the infrasound into a resonant 4th density realm!

I got loads of details for the curious inquirer here:

www.humanresonance.org

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3446.msg22077#msg22077

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3473.msg22076#msg22076



http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/misc.php?action=rules

Three, don't spam, just don't, it will be deleted almost immediately, so it's a waste of time. Spamming means sending multiple meaningless posts. If you don't have anything beneficial or informative to say, don't just join in for nothin'. Posts deemed by the moderators (who have experience with this, by the way) to be "noise" will be deleted. Related to this is the idea that if you join this forum, you will familiarize yourself with the discussions thorougly before you start posting stuff that's already been covered.

Now don't get me wrong. Your posts are not meaningless, per se. But as you said so youself at one point, people are viewing your posts, but not picking up on them, not engaging them. Why do you think that might be?

 

[Azur]

in lak'ech,

So what the hell is lak'ech?

Seems to stand for "I am You and You are Me". Similar to "Namaste".

Indicates we are (holographic) shards of the same source, despite illusions.

 

[Mark]

I think it's an ancient Mayan greeting.

That'll be received well by all the ancient Mayans reading this forum...

in lak'ech,

So what the hell is lak'ech?

Seems to stand for "I am You and You are Me". Similar to "Namaste".

Indicates we are (holographic) shards of the same source, despite illusions.

Meanwhile here we are faced with 3D reality... where individuality makes a huge difference...

 

[dant]

Hmmm. The word "lak'ech" sounds something like Klingon. Maybe
reviewing the klingon dictionary might produce it's meaning?

I did a google search: Klingon lak'ech
and oddly I found this:

http://espanol.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060816174644AAgS7XH

KUTIANECH TIN PUKSIKALE IN LAK ECH ( DIOS HABITE EN TU CORAZON SOY
OTRO TU ) ES MAYA ... significa : en la enorme ciudad y es KLINGON ! ...

And this:

http://www.nanews.org/archive/1995/nanews03.048

...
Please pass this information on to circles, listservs, or friends who may
be interested in this. Thank you for your time, and I hope that this note
finds you well.

In Lak'ech Yelir,

...

The last one seems that it hints of a native indian language of some sort
but I am not sure if it is north american or south american....

But a google search for: Lak'ech

http://www.kachina.net/~alunajoy/97aug.html

clearly shows it is mayan.... ok... so you are right! The meaning
varies and is:

1) you are my other me
2) We understand In Lak'ech to mean I am another yourself
3) I am another you!

 

[Azur]

Found some information (with the help of some networking friends) about these guys and the story as played by FOX:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Hydrogen_Technology_Applications_Inc

From the article:

Comment by NEC member, Ken Rasmussen on May 12, 2006.

If you listen closely in the video, he is running a COMBINED MIX of gasoline and his HHO gases. He is NOT getting 1600 miles solely to a gallon of water. The water only augments the gasoline. No different from the HyDrive and other hydrogen boost systems.

If his generator is anything like the Brown's Gas units commercially available for years (Dennis Lee among others) they suck a lot of power to make the electrolyzed gas referred to as "Brown's Gas" although several individuals are claiming origination of the process. Many others have learned how to do it on their own, but never sought patents.

He may have an efficient way to break down water for pure hydrogen and oxygen to run an engine. Several of us are on the verge of perfecting the process, but none of us want to make fools of ourselves with TV claims until ALL the bugs are exterminated. [...]

It is nice to see main stream media pointing a camera at something the rest of us have known about for years though.

and

Comment by NEC member, Eric Kreig, on May 13, 2006

Ouch! - this is the kind of misleading story that drives public ignorance about energy and fuel. Fox was very irresponsible in their choice of words to call water a fuel. Water is not a fuel, it can be a source material to create an inefficient fuel, the gas HHO - which is the fuel and NOT water. Water is to the gas HHO what ash is to wood. Dennis Lee does a scam to make people think water can be used to power things - it can't , water is the waste product. Gases are dangerous and hard to store and hard to compress - they do not do an efficient job of temporarily storing energy. The best way to use water to store energy is to pump it to an uphill storage tank - that way only has about an 20% energy loss compared with typical total 70- 90% loss rates of using electrical power to separate water into gas, and then harnessing the energy available by burning it.

The gas produced by separating water is dangerous and has been called many things including Browns gas. It has been available for years from many sources. These machines are heavy and suck in a lot more power than you ever get out of them by burning the gas back into water. Around 15 years of promoting browns gas for welding, cutting, etc haven't seem to have made much of an impact on the world of working metal.