Is Mr. Putin still "the same" Mr. Putin ?

A Jay

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As native russian I can tell you he always been the same.
I can suggest you to read/watch about 1999 when one organization blowed ap whole houses with thousands people. And they were never care about human life. How many journalists were killed? If you think everything started in 99 - you are wrong, everything started looooong time before.

Welcome to our forum, @mgkike. Like Claus said, since this was your first post we'd appreciate it if you would go to the Newbies section and post an introduction containing a bit about yourself and how you found the forum. That way we can get to know you and your interests as well as give you the full welcome message with important links and other useful info.

With that out of the way, can you give the actual event/events from 1999 to which you're referring? Your comment is kind of cryptic so being more explicit about the details and how it relates to the discussion in this thread would be useful.
 
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Welcome to our forum, @mgkike. Like Claus said, since this was your first post we'd appreciate it if you would go to the Newbies section and post an introduction containing a bit about yourself and how you found the forum. That way we can get to know you and your interests as well as give you the full welcome message with important links and other useful info.

With that out of the way, can you give the actual event/events from 1999 to which you're referring? You comment is kind of cryptic so being more explicit about the details and how it relates to the discussion in this thread would be useful.
I think he means it
 

mgkike

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Thanks to people above. Yes I was mentioned about apartment bombings aka "Ryazan's sugar", you may read about that (with translator) here:


this website fully blocked in Russia long time ago. Previous post was my first post here on forum but I was read-only about 12 years and now have to start talking. I will make introducing newbie thread.
 

Esote

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What didn't change is that the World is run by psychopaths, whether it be in the West or Russia, and more or less everywhere else.
I don't trust any of them leaders, and Putin isn't darker, nor whiter even, IMHO.
Ordinary people are always the victims, from one side or the other.
Basically our civilization is the problem. A rise of consciousness is essentially needed...
 

Kika

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1) Is Putin still the same Putin (as a person/human being) or now is "he" a fake person/"something" and real Putin is dead or in captivity?
2) Was Putin deceived/misinformed by his "surroundings" to make him bad decision towards invasion on Ukraine and finally to throwing him down ?
3) Was Putin blackmailed to do what he done towards invasion on Ukraine ?
4) Is Putin's decision (in his own opinion) to invade Ukraine the best (less evil) possible decision towards events that he know come soon ?
Hey Adamos,

When I heard that Putin had ordered military action in Ukraine, my reaction was; This man prayed on one of his Mount of Olives (Getcham Mountain) and said, "Thy will be done, not mine."

I think he has finally accepted the role / purpose that destiny / god / universe has given him.

I also thought this was a great lesson on desires. "Watch what you want because it could come true!"

Namely, all these years, since coming to the world political scene, everyone has been calling; belligerent, aggressive, unyielding, etc. Putin. Now they have it.

That would be my thinking to offer in response to questions; 2,3,4.

Question no. 1 is very interesting and I would really like you to write how you came to it. Are these some of your thoughts and impressions, or is the reason some other channeled material such as:
March 3, 2022.

With loving greetings from all souls at this station, this is Matthew. Let us begin with the assurance that all major happenings are right on target with the divine plan to liberate Earth from all vestiges of darkness. Although much of the action still is behind the scenes, some is quite obvious, but the public doesn’t recognize it as the significant progress it is. Such is the case of Russia and Ukraine.



As mentioned in a previous message, the person seen as Vladimir Putin is the look-alike double who replaced the Russian president about two years ago when the Illuminati finally were able to assassinate Putin because he consistently refused to cooperate with them. They portrayed him in mainstream media as a murderous dictator because he eliminated their operatives in Russia and they accused him of horrible things they themselves did. What is important in this moment is that the double, initially one of the Rothschild puppets, now is working with and protected by the light forces.



Russians are not wantonly bombing cities as reported by mainstream media and often depicted by old or photo-shopped photos and film clips. They are destroying laboratories that produce and store bioweaponry and other Illuminati entrenchments, but like most of the rest of the world’s people, the Ukrainians don’t know that and they are frightened, anxious and sad. Even if they knew about the strategic targets, explosions and foreign troops still would be traumatizing.



Later on they will know the truth about what is happening, and some among the hundreds of thousands who are leaving the country already do—they have been working with the Illuminati. In time, all peoples will know that what some say is “an unprovoked war” or “a dangerous invasion” has another purpose, too. It will reunify a population that was separated when new borders were established to put regions with abundant natural resources under the control of Illuminati-installed “democratic” governance.



The United States president seen publicly also is a look-alike double and he has to say and do whatever he is told, including advocating that everyone be vaccinated. Far from having the results the Illuminati want, demands to end all “pandemic” requirements are quickly expanding in that country and many others, and leaders who haven’t yet succumbed to public pressure, will in a short time. The peoples are fed up with mandates that are damaging psychologically, economically, academically and, as medical specialists are rightly saying, health-wise.



Another timely item on the Illuminati agenda is a world war, and they are pushing their puppet national leaders to escalate the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. This plan will not succeed, either. There will be no WWIII.

And so on.

My point is: "It's not the body / container / vehicle that matters, it's the soul that matters." Obviously this is about the same soul.

I would also like to tell you not to be discouraged, he will answer when he comes. Here is my example.

7 years ago, I jumped on this forum (without knowing anything about it), precisely because of the events in Ukraine and my impression that it is there or building an inter-density portal. Here 7 years later Cass. they put the question of the portal on the table, and I received a confirmation / answer.:-)
 

Mariama

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What didn't change is that the World is run by psychopaths, whether it be in the West or Russia, and more or less everywhere else.
I don't trust any of them leaders, and Putin isn't darker, nor whiter even, IMHO.
Ordinary people are always the victims, from one side or the other.
Basically our civilization is the problem. A rise of consciousness is essentially needed...
I don't know whether I have misunderstood you, but have you been following our Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine thread at all, Esote? Have you been following Sott? If you were to compare President Putin's actions to say Obama and Biden and their gang and see how many wars they have started and the suffering they have caused there is a huge difference between leaders of the West and Putin. By their fruits you shall know them. To me it seems that Russia is fighting against psychopaths plus a part of the world population that has been completely ponerised.

I am pretty sure that most (?) people from Donbass and Syria know that their leaders are to be trusted and that they wish the best for their people. Today I watched a video of President Assad explaining to his fellow Syrians what is happening in Ukraine and was thinking to myself how wonderful it would be if we people in the West were to be informed and educated like that, in the same way JFK educated his fellow Americans before everything went South in the West.

Khadaffi also comes to mind and look at what happened to him and his country after Western elites were done with him.

FWIW.
 

Esote

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I don't know whether I have misunderstood you, but have you been following our Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine thread at all, Esote? Have you been following Sott? If you were to compare President Putin's actions to say Obama and Biden and their gang and see how many wars they have started and the suffering they have caused there is a huge difference between leaders of the West and Putin. By their fruits you shall know them. To me it seems that Russia is fighting against psychopaths plus a part of the world population that has been completely ponerised.

I am pretty sure that most (?) people from Donbass and Syria know that their leaders are to be trusted and that they wish the best for their people. Today I watched a video of President Assad explaining to his fellow Syrians what is happening in Ukraine and was thinking to myself how wonderful it would be if we people in the West were to be informed and educated like that, in the same way JFK educated his fellow Americans before everything went South in the West.

Khadaffi also comes to mind and look at what happened to him and his country after Western elites were done with him.

FWIW.
I am following most of everything which is about Ukraine on Cassiopaea or Sott.
For me, not one leader may be trusted. They are all part of the problem.
I know that I don't know...
 

ark

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As native russian I can tell you he always been the same.
The fact that you are native Russian means nothing. Among native Russians there are also drug addicts and criminals. There are also traitors. So, please, stay with reliable facts, research, take into account all available knowledge rather than one from biased sources only.
I was born in what is now Ukraina and my first language to read was Russian. But that does not mean I am biased in any way. I would like to see people who can understand the needs for unbiased research. Not those who rely on one-sided views.
 
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Cleopatre VII

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The fact that you are native Russian means nothing. Among native Russians there are also drug addicts and criminals. There are laso traitors. So, please, stay with reliable facts, research, take into account all available knoeldge rather than one from biased sources only.
I was born in what is now Ukraina and my first language to read was Russian. But that doe not mean I am biased in any way. I would like to see people who can understand the needs for unbiased research. Not those who rely on one-sided views.
A very beautiful and logical statement. I fully agree.
 

Stefan

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1) Is Putin still the same Putin (as a person/human being) or now is "he" a fake person/"something" and real Putin is dead or in captivity?
2) Was Putin deceived/misinformed by his "f" to make him bad decision towards invasion on Ukraine and finally to throwing him down ?
3) Was Putin blackmailed to do what he done towards invasion on Ukraine ?
4) Is Putin's decision (in his own opinion) to invade Ukraine the best (less evil) possible decision towards events that he know come soon ?
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1) Is Putin still the same Putin (as a person/human being) or now is "he" a fake person/"something" and real Putin is dead or in captivity?
2) Was Putin deceived/misinformed by his "surroundings" to make him bad decision towards invasion on Ukraine and finally to throwing him down ?
3) Was Putin blackmailed to do what he done towards invasion on Ukraine ?
4) Is Putin's decision (in his own opinion) to invade Ukraine the best (less evil) possible decision towards events that he know come soon ?
1) The first part of the question is very subjective, we all change, we all get older and can change our minds as we live through the challenges of life, so, no, Putin is not the same as he was in the early 2000's, no comment on the second part of the question.
2) Another subjective question, he doesn't call it an "invasion", he was fully aware of his "surroundings" to make the right decision.
3) Highly unlikely, but if he was, I don't see by whom and for what purpose
4) Another subjective question, it is what he thinks is the best solution for this conflict, obviously some see it as an act of evil, others like most members of this forum see it as an act of goodness for many reasons. Better formulated question that may be asked given the current circumstances, have the current developments in Ukraine met his initial expectations and assessment on the end game?
 

waveform

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How about you research that topic for yourself thoroughly first and then tell us what your conclusion is?
It's stupid to plant a real bomb in an apartment building and, after discovered, say that it was a training of FSB. The FSB's argumentation is very weak in the Ryazan incident.
 
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