A strange experiences with the bees

Persej

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A couple of years ago (maybe in 2012) I had a strange experience with the bees. One morning I woke up and heard a buzzing sound. My first thought was that it was probably a fly, since that happened many times.

So I got up to open the door on my balcony so that she can go out. But when I approached my window I could see a swarm of bees outside trying to get in!

I’m not particularly fond of dealing with insects, so I went to my mom and told her that I’m not sure if I’m seeing things correctly because I just woke up, but I think that I saw a swarm of bees trying to come into my room!

She thought that I’m just imagining things and that I maybe saw just a couple of bees outside and got scared. But when she went into my room she could really see a swarm of bees outside (maybe 100) with about 10 of them already in.

In the beginning she was afraid that they are gonna attack us so she was killing them, but after some time when we realized that they are just completely disoriented, I decided to come closer to them and just close the holes on my roller shutters. And then they all got inside the roller shutter box and after some time they stopped giving any sound, so I guess that they all died. They are probably still there since I haven’t opened that box above my window.

I heard about several such cases in my city that year so I thought that this must be some local phenomenon. Although neither me, nor my mother, saw anything like that in our lives.

Anyway, this morning the same thing happened again. And it was again the same process. The bees were trying to get in, they were not attacking, they just seemed disoriented. This time it happened on the other side of our apartment, so only my mother saw them. And again she could only stop them by closing the holes. It does makes you wonder how do these bees knew how to find the small holes that lead inside our apartment if they were disoriented?!

My mother also noticed another thing: the bees would attach to each other, in pairs, then spin around in a circle in air, and then fall down.

My mother doesn’t have a fear of bees, so she was just throwing them outside, without killing them, but they kept coming back so she had to close the holes to stop them. And eventually they again stopped giving any sound so they are probably dead now inside that box. I could only find one bee outside my apartment.

I see that something strange is happening with the bees around the world, and that nobody know exactly why, but I don’t understand why would they come to my apartment twice in just a couple of years? What are the odds for that? What is so interesting in my apartment that attracts them? Yes, my apartment is close to the ground, but there are many other buildings around me, and I haven’t heard that my neighbors had a similar problem with them.

When you go to Google you can find that these things with bees in my city started in 2011 and continued in 2012 and 2013, but then it stopped in 2014. And now it seems back again.

_http://www.politika.rs/vesti/najnovije-vesti/Rojevi-pcela-u-Beogradu-nisu-opasni-samo-ih-ne-treba-dirati.lt.html
_http://mondo.rs/a248638/Info/Drustvo/Najezda-pcela-u-Beogradu.html
_http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/Dru%C5%A1tvo/1344654/Lov+na+p%C4%8Dele+po+Beogradu.html

It also happened in another city in my country a four days ago:

_http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Srbija/563694/PANIKA-U-CENTRU-NISA-Roj-pcela-rasterao-prolaznike-i-zauzeo-kandelabar-u-Obrenovicevoj-ulici
 

mkrnhr

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Do you know if they use any pesticides in this time of the year near to where you live? Something must be disturbing their behaviour.
 

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It's only a speculation and maybe there is someone with more experience with bees on the forum, but maybe it has to do with a process called "swarming". It usually happens in spring, but also can happen in summer, when the bee family becomes too large and part of it along with the queen bee fly away to find a new home.

At the beginning, and after leaving their hive they reside on a tree nearby, or something like that until the scouts will find a new suitable location. And then they all fly together there. Scouts tell about the new location using a specific dance. So who knows, either the scouts thought that your home for some reason is a perfect location for a new hive, or you live in an "elecro-smog" area, and the bees are repeatedly confused by the electromagnetic waves. Maybe the scouts danced the dance wrong, too. Also because of all the electromagnetic interference. Just an idea.
 

Persej

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mkrnhr said:
Do you know if they use any pesticides in this time of the year near to where you live? Something must be disturbing their behaviour.
I doubt that. It is an urban area, no crop fields around here. And they haven't yet started with the spaying against mosquitoes. That starts latter in the summer.

Keit said:
It's only a speculation and maybe there is someone with more experience with bees on the forum, but maybe it has to do with a process called "swarming". It usually happens in spring, but also can happen in summer, when the bee family becomes too large and part of it along with the queen bee fly away to find a new home.

At the beginning, and after leaving their hive they reside on a tree nearby, or something like that until the scouts will find a new suitable location. And then they all fly together there. Scouts tell about the new location using a specific dance. So who knows, either the scouts thought that your home for some reason is a perfect location for a new hive, or you live in an "elecro-smog" area, and the bees are repeatedly confused by the electromagnetic waves. Maybe the scouts danced the dance wrong, too. Also because of all the electromagnetic interference. Just an idea.
EM could be the problem, yes. There are antennas everywhere. But I don't understand why would they die that quickly? Unless EM signals somehow fried their brains.
 

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Keit said:
It's only a speculation and maybe there is someone with more experience with bees on the forum, but maybe it has to do with a process called "swarming". It usually happens in spring, but also can happen in summer, when the bee family becomes too large and part of it along with the queen bee fly away to find a new home.
This was also my first thought that during the year beehives are leaving and are looking for a new place and is a natural process as I remember.

Nonetheless EM does further endanger bees and without a question also when I understood it that single bees don't find home again and not entire swarms. And that it happened two times to you is indeed strange and you could also call you lucky in a sense, because some people would be happy getting a new swarm so to speak :). But lucky you that nothing bad happened. And do you know what happened to the bees know, maybe you could ask a beekeeper for help?!
 

Persej

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Gawan said:
And that it happened two times to you is indeed strange and you could also call you lucky in a sense, because some people would be happy getting a new swarm so to speak :). But lucky you that nothing bad happened.
Yeah. But now I wish I could help them.

And do you know what happened to the bees know, maybe you could ask a beekeeper for help?!
I managed to open one box and found only three bees. With the one outside that is only four. I don't know where are the others. Maybe they are in the other box, maybe they hid somewhere deep inside, or maybe they went somewhere else. These four look like normal bees to me.
 

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loreta

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Very beautiful bees are. Maybe they wanted to do a hive in your house for a particular reason, the sun, or the situation of your apartment, bees are so intelligent that if they choose a particular place to do something is for a reason. Do you have an attic in your apartment? You are lucky, bees are good insects, admirable in fact. They are gentle and not aggressive at all. You can talk to them and if you are calm, they will be calm, also. Maybe they were lost and need to do their hive.
 

Persej

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No attic here. Although this box looks like a good place for insects. But the thing is that they wouldn't stay there. They would enter the room, but once in a room then they wanted to go out! It was very bizarre.

Judging by the look I personally think that wasps are prettier. I love their strong yellow color. They can also pollinate, but not as good as bees.

Wasps look like bees, but are generally not covered with fuzzy hairs. As a result, they are much less efficient in pollinating flowers, because pollen is less likely to stick to their bodies and to be moved from flower to flower.

_http://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/animals/wasps.shtml
I have a lot of wasps during the summer because they love my grapes. But I never had a problem with them. Maybe because bees are more sensitive beings than them.

When I was a kid I was surprised when I realized that they are not bees but wasps. I thought that they are bees because on all children's pictures bees had this strong yellow color, but in reality that is not true! Wasps look like that, not bees. They tricked me. :)
 

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MusicMan

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Some years ago, a bloke named Grebbenikov was doing research on a type of wasp, and he discovered that they can detect cavities, and they actually build their nests in the shape of a certain cavity. One of the properties he discovered about these cavities is that they exhibit a form of [anti-gravity], and he worked out a way of harnessing this property.
See:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Grebennikov

and
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJXE4FCm7Q

Amazing critters.

Cavities are also utilised in the home, in the microwave ovens you use every day.
They resonate at certain frequencies, and so can generate signals, the frequency of which depends on the size of the cavity.
The wasps and bees must have a kind of radar built in which can detect the cavity they can use for a nest.
 

clerck de bonk

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MusicMan said:
Some years ago, a bloke named Grebbenikov was doing research on a type of wasp, and he discovered that they can detect cavities, and they actually build their nests in the shape of a certain cavity. One of the properties he discovered about these cavities is that they exhibit a form of [anti-gravity], and he worked out a way of harnessing this property.
See:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Grebennikov

and
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJXE4FCm7Q

Amazing critters.

Cavities are also utilised in the home, in the microwave ovens you use every day.
They resonate at certain frequencies, and so can generate signals, the frequency of which depends on the size of the cavity.
The wasps and bees must have a kind of radar built in which can detect the cavity they can use for a nest.
MM, do You have more on this cavity-buisness? It sure sounds interesting to me as an architect. What of different materials surrounding the cavity for example? Maybe a different thread?
 

Goemon_

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A little local story about bees :

One day an honey producer put a hive near a farm with a horse.
The owner of the horse didn't like it. He moved the hive away.
When the bees came back and didn't found the hive they attacked the horse and he died.
 

MusicMan

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clerck de bonk said:
MusicMan said:
Some years ago, a bloke named Grebbenikov was doing research on a type of wasp, and he discovered that they can detect cavities, and they actually build their nests in the shape of a certain cavity. One of the properties he discovered about these cavities is that they exhibit a form of [anti-gravity], and he worked out a way of harnessing this property.
See:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Grebennikov

and
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJXE4FCm7Q

Amazing critters.

Cavities are also utilised in the home, in the microwave ovens you use every day.
They resonate at certain frequencies, and so can generate signals, the frequency of which depends on the size of the cavity.
The wasps and bees must have a kind of radar built in which can detect the cavity they can use for a nest.
MM, do You have more on this cavity-buisness? It sure sounds interesting to me as an architect. What of different materials surrounding the cavity for example? Maybe a different thread?
Clerck de Bonk, I kind of suspect that you realize that is a loaded question, as all you have to do to investigate is to use a popular search engine, and you will find all manner of cavity resonators, from architectural, musical, radio, radar, microwave, laser, and even quantum resonant cavity thrusters for spacecraft.
All of them produce a different frequency wave depending on their shape and size.
Did you check out the URL's above?

But to keep this thread on topic, I will just add that bees themselves like to construct hexagonally shaped cells for their young to grow and thrive in.
Maybe you could design a suitable one for young humans.
 

casper

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Perhaps the disorientation of bees to blame cell phone? I know it sounds strange, but read this link:
https://translate.google.hr/translate?sl=hr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=hr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jutarnji.hr%2Fvijesti%2Fsvijet%2Fpomor-pcela--za-ogroman-pomor-populacije-pocela-krivi-su---mobiteli%2F945394%2F&edit-text=
 

loreta

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casper said:
Perhaps the disorientation of bees to blame cell phone? I know it sounds strange, but read this link:
https://translate.google.hr/translate?sl=hr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=hr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jutarnji.hr%2Fvijesti%2Fsvijet%2Fpomor-pcela--za-ogroman-pomor-populacije-pocela-krivi-su---mobiteli%2F945394%2F&edit-text=
I think that what happens to bees, how they are dying, how they are in danger of extinction, is very similar of what is happening to humans. Can we say that bees are our sisters? I like to think this. My sister the bee.

When I see a bee, and it is very rare, it is an extraordinary spectacle. To see her going flower to flower as this was the most important thing to do in this planet, and it is.

I am afraid of wasps. I think wasps are mean, aggressive. Maybe I am wrong!
 

GregP507

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If you like fruits and berries, that's only one reason to promote bees in your neighborhood. Most plants rely on them for pollination and fertilization, therefore without bees, some species are likely to disappear.

Yellow-jackets are sometimes mistaken for bees, and they are also very useful for controlling undesirable insect pests.

Resist the urge to declare war on them; they are doing us a great service, whether we appreciate it or not.
 
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