Stiffer web moderation??

joejoeba

Jedi
I have searched for some things recently on google and have found a startling lack of hits/information relating to two subjects. One: I wanted some freeware un-edited footage of 11/9. There is nothing available out of billions of sites, advertised openly on Google. For the average lay person to read, apart from heavily edited controlled cuts. I am not asking for any links here I am just fed up.

Another is the Booms that my friends in Cornwall heard. They were reported on regional and international new formats,
but now on google, I'll be damned if It's dissapeared. I am capable of not stopping just at google in the search for things, however what scares me is that many are not. Can it actually be that Information is now so blatently being taken away from us?

Trying to find other controversy or even high profile public information: footage of iraq war, articles, military speculation. bit by bit grafted from beneath our eyes.

Shockingly I expressed my disdain to my partner and she quite frankly replied "to be honest I don't care" -- She had a dress to iron for some event..........

MOST PEOPLE SEEM NOT TO CARE
 
This kinda information culling has been around a long long time. We just notice it more cause we bought into the whole "The internet is free" idea. It's not really that they are doing more than expected, just that we were really naive.
 
plus if you google for '11/9' rather than the US-date format '9/11' then thats gonna cut down on the results even more. :P

joejoeba said:
Trying to find other controversy or even high profile public information: footage of iraq war, articles, military speculation. bit by bit grafted from beneath our eyes.
hooray for signs-of-the-times, grafting it all back in again :)

joejoeba said:
MOST PEOPLE SEEM NOT TO CARE
yep. ain't that just the shocking truth? sometimes though, people would care, except that they are steeped in denial, and it is psychologically impossible for them to contemplate these things because of the traumatic shock it would bring to their world view. so it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't care.
 
slightly off topic but I am using torpark, www.torrify.com, a nifty bit of software that scrambles your IP address and pretends you are in a different part of the world. this is useful for enforcing privacy, anonymous surfing and accessing sites that might be blocked in certain counties - it is popular in china for example.

just now i had an ip address in germany. went to www.signs-of-the-times.org and was redirected to a rense.com article on relationships? found this a little wierd given the strong discussions regarding rense on this site. any suggestions?
 
Rich, sounds strange. Sure its not a user-error? If you were beeing redirected it would be more logical to send you to the index of the site.
 
GRiM - I am pretty sure it is not user error. I have never been to a rense site before and with torpark a blank firefox browser is shown each time.
From a clear screen with no previous data I manually typed in the SOTT address 3 times and 3 times recieved the header 'relationships' from rense.com. on my 4th attempt the SOTT site did come up as normal and i couldn't repeat the earlier link direction. I am sure i did not make a mistake in typing but it is possible. If this were the case it is still strange that a slight variation, missing hyphen or spelling mistake would send me to a random page of rense.com

to test this i just tried some obvious mistyped signs-of-the-times.org URL's and cannot repeat the earlier site direction. It is a mystery to me but using torpark for anonyminity looks promising- free, slightly slower than normal but private and can bypass office surf controls.
 
Rich said:
... but using torpark for anonyminity looks promising- free, slightly slower than normal but private and can bypass office surf controls.
It is very simple: using fake IP you risk being sent to a fake page. You seem to trust more people that you do not know (those who provides you with their IPs, than people you know lot about - SOTT.

Fake attracts fake. It is a law of nature. And if you need to fake your IP in order to visit SOTT - this means you do not really need to read SOTT, because it is all about sincerity. Rense, on the other hand, is about faking - so it is only natural that you landed on Rense :)
 
Point taken and appreciated. My reason is in wanting to read Sott at work without being monitored.
 
yes yes sleepyvinny, I was just compelled to be true to my country's date display methods in this forum.

It is shocking however this hideous control of information. It was only four years ago the 'A' cookbook was still available!!I am a reformed caucasion te**orist although using the moorlands of Cornwall as my te**orism location probably put the fear of youth into no-one but a few distant sheep.

I appreciate this site more and more as other sources of information get tainted by another's purpose.I might lose the plot if this one surviving portal of truth decipherment gets audited to death by TPTB.

I am racking my brains. There is hardly any method of spreading word en masse without this device before us. I suggest that an emergency back up plan is drawn up. Some re-kindlement of the pony express. To be initiated in a time where we become isolated for some reason. Assigned messengers. Chosen to spread knowledge. Appointed centres for truth where they all meet and have.......Oh smeg, thats like that kostner film called "the postman", isn't it.

I, erm went off on a tangent slightly, apologies, however I think it is a good point to consider for a worthy purpose.

I ask the question. Who will keep things going? It's a big question.

[Moderator: slightly reformatted "to fit your screen".]
 
joejoeba said:
I ask the question. Who will keep things going? It's a big question.
Step by step. You do not know what Mountain awaits you 10 kilometers away until you climb the smaller mountain that is is only 1 kilometer afar. And even then, another one may still obscure your view. After all, 10 kilometers from here, there may be no Mountain at all - may be a Big Hole! There is enough things that can be done NOW. And what can be done - should be done.

Or so I think :)
 
Go to the "promote SOTT" page here: http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/promote_sott.php

Download the graphics, take them to a local printer and have them made into stickers. Carry a batch of them with you everywhere and stick them where people can't help but look at them - use your imagination.

Most of all, have fun doing it. Every sticker is a nick in the power structure.
 
I see that to imagine and hypothesize a scenario shaped from our understanding of what is and has been, is as liable to be as different in reality as any dream.

But it is a fair point in a sense ie:preparation and purpose.
I have the messenger urge I believe.
But what further, physically can be done.
 
joejoba said:
I have the messenger urge I believe.
But what further, physically can be done.
Well, first you must consider what we are up against and what is at stake. If you have not done so already, download and read Controversy of Zion.

To get to the meat of the matter, here is a quote from C of Z that will give you some ideas, I hope, and let your imagination run free.

Douglas Reed said:
Far back in this book the reader was invited to note that "B'nai B'rith" put out a shoot. B'nai B'rith, until then, might be compared with such groups of other religious affiliation as the Young Men's Christian Association or the Knights of Columbus; its declared objects were the help of the poor, sick and fatherless and good works in general. The little offshoot of 1913, the "Anti-Defamation League", had by 1947 become a secret police of formidable power in America.

In Doublespeak "anti-defamation" means "defamation" and this body lived by calumny, using such terms as anti-Semite, fascist, rabble-rouser, Jew-baiter, Red-baiter, paranoiac, lunatic, madman, reactionary, diehard, bigot and more of the like. The vocabulary is fixed and may be traced back to the attacks on Barruel, Robison and Morse after the French revolution; the true nature of any writer's or newspaper's allegiance may be detected by keeping count of the number of times these trade-mark words are used. The achievement of this organization (usually known as the AD.L.) has been by iteration to make fetishes of them, so that party politicians hasten to deny that they are any of these things. Under this regime reasoned debate became outlawed; there is something of sorcery in this subjugation of two generations of Western men to the mumbo-jumbo of Asiatic conspirators.
When the A.D.L. was born in 1913 it had merely desk-room in the parent B'nai B'rith office and a tiny budget. In 1933 Mr. Bernard J. Brown wrote, "Through the intervention of the A.D.L. we have succeeded in muzzling the non-Jewish press to the extent that newspapers in America abstain from pointing out that any person unfavourably referred to is a Jew". In 1948 the Jewish Menorah Journal of New York wrote, "Should but one phrase in a reprinted literary classic reflect unjustly upon Jews, the A.D.L. will promptly belabour the innocent publisher until he bowdlerizes the offending passage. Let one innocent movie-producer incorporate a Jewish prototype, however inoffensive, in his picture and the hue and cry raised by the A.D.L. will make him wish he's never heard of Jews. But when Jews are subtly propagandized into accepting Communist doctrine . . . the A.D.L. remains silent. No word, no warning, no hint of caution, much less exposure and condemnation: although there are men high in the councils of the organization who should know by their own experience how the Communists 'infiltrate'." (The Menorah Journal spoke for the many Jews who were alarmed because the A.D.L. was attacking anti-Communism as anti-Semitism).

These quotations show the growth of the A.D.L.'s power in thirty-five years. It has imposed the law of heresy on the public debate in America. No criticism of Zionism or the world-government plan is allowed to pass without virulent attack; criticism of Communism is only tolerated in the tacit understanding that any war with Communism would lead to the communized world-state; and as to that, "Jerusalem is the capital of the world no less than the capital of Israel" (the Zionist mayor of Jerusalem, 1952).

America has today a few surviving writers who fight on for independent debate and comment. They will discuss any public matter, in the light of traditional American policy and interest, save Zionism, which hardly any of them will touch. I have discussed this with four of the leading ones, who all gave the same answer: it could not be done. The employed ones would lose their posts, if they made the attempt. The independent ones would find no publisher for their books because no reviewer would mention these, save with the epithets enumerated above.
The AD.L., of such small beginnings in 1913, in 1948 had a budget of three million dollars (it is only one of several Jewish organizations pursuing Zionist aims in America at a similar rate of expenditure). The Menorah Journal, discussing "Anti-Defamation Hysteria", said, "Fighting anti-Semitism has been built up into a big business, with annual budgets running into millions of dollars". It said the object was "to continue beating the anti-Semitic drum" and "to scare the pants off prospective contributors" in order to raise funds. It mentioned some of the methods used ("outright business blackmail; if you can't afford to give $10,000 to this cause, you can take your business elsewhere"), and said American Jews were being "stampeded into a state of mass-hysteria by their self-styled defenders".

The Menorah Journal also drew attention to the falsification of news by Jewish news agencies subsidized by the big organizations. It showed that some minor brawl among juveniles in Manhattan had been depicted in "front-page scare headlines which would have led a stranger to believe that a Czarist pogrom was going on" (by these same means the "Czarist pogroms" earlier, and Rabbi Stephen Wise's "reported pogrom in Berlin" in 1933 reached the world). Out of this particular "scare headline" grew a mass-meeting in Madison Garden, where another politician aspiring to presidential office (a Mr. Wendell Willkie at that moment) declared, "The mounting wave of anti-Semitism at home shocks me. . . etc., etc."

"Mass-hysteria" is not only produced among Jews and band-wagon politicians by this method; it produces another kind of mass-hysteria among earnest but uninformed people of the "Liberal" kind: the mass-hysteria of self-righteousness, which is a tempting form of self-indulgence. The late Mr. George Orwell was of those who helped spread "mass-hysteria" in this way. He was a good man, because he did not merely incite others to succour the weak and avenge injustice, but went himself to fight when the Civil War broke out in Spain, then discovering that Communism, when he saw it, was worse than the thing which (as he thought) he set out to destroy. He died before he could go to Palestine and experience any similar enlightenment, so that what he wrote about "anti-Semitism" was but the echo of "anti-defamationist hysteria". It is so good an example of this that I quote it; here a man of goodwill offered, as his own wisdom, phrases which others poured into his ear.
He explored "anti-Semitism in Britain" (1945) and found " a perceptibly anti-Semitic strain in Chaucer". Mr. Hilaire Belloc and Mr. G.K.Chesterton were "literary Jew-baiters". He found passages in Shakespeare, Smollett, Thackeray, Shaw, T.S. Eliot, Aldous Huxley and others "which if written now would be stigmatized as anti-Semitism" (he was right without knowing it; if written now they would have been stigmatized). Then he suffered what Americans call a pratfall. He said that "offhand, the only English writers I can think of who, before the days of Hitler, made a definite effort to stick up for Jews are Dickens and Charles Reade". Thus he extolled one of the A.D.L.'s "Jew-baiters" as a champion of Jews; in America the film of Oliver Twist was banned because of Fagin! This was the work of the A.D.L.; its representative, a Mr. Arnold Forster, announced:

"American movie-distributors refused to become involved in the distribution and exhibition of the motion picture after the A.D.L. and others expressed the fear that the film was harmful; the Rank Organization withdrew the picture in the United States".

Later the picture was released after censorship by the A.D.L.; "seventy two eliminations" were made at its command and a prologue was added assuring beholders that they might accept it as "a filmization of Dickens without anti-Semitic intentions". (In occupied Berlin the A.D.L. ban was final; the British authorities ordered Dickens withdrawn from German eyes).

I was in America at this time and thus saw the fulfillment of a prediction made in a book of 1943, when I wrote that, as the secret censorship was going, Chaucer, Shakespeare and Dickens would one day be defamed as "anti-Semites". I thought to strain probability, to make a point, but it happened in all three cases: a Shakespearean actor-manager visiting New York was ordered not to play The Merchant of Venice, Dickens was banned, and the defamationists put Chaucer on their black-list.
A private organization which can produce such results is obviously powerful; there is nothing comparable in the world. Mr. Vincent Sheehan wrote in 1949, "There is scarcely a voice in the United States that dares raise itself for the rights, any rights, of the Arabs; any slight criticism of the Zionist high command is immediately labeled as anti-Semitic". Miss Dorothy Thompson, whose picture and articles at that time were published everyday in hundreds of newspapers, similarly protested. Mr. Sheehan's popularity with book-reviewers immediately slumped; Miss Thompson's portrait and writings are seldom seen in the American press today.

How is the oracle worked? By what means has America (and the entire West) been brought to the state that no public man aspires to office, or editor feels secure at his desk, until he has brought out his prayer-mat and prostrated himself to Zion? How have presidents and prime ministers been led to compete for the approval of this faction like bridesmaids for the bride's bouquet? Why do leading men suffer themselves to be paraded at hundred-dollar-a-plate banquets for Zion, or to be herded on to Zionist platforms to receive "plaques" for services rendered?

The power of money and the prospect of votes have demonstrably been potent lures, but in my judgment by far the strongest weapon is this power to control published information; to lay stress on what a faction wants and to exclude from it all that the faction dislikes, and so to be able to give any selected person a "good" or a "bad" press. This is in fact control of "the mob". In today's language it is "the technique of propaganda and the approach to the masses", as Dr. Weizmann said, but it is an ancient, Asiatic art and was described, on a famous occasion, by Saint Matthew and Saint Mark: "The chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude. . The chief priests moved the people . ."

In forty years the A.D.L. perfected a machine for persuading the multitude. It is a method of thought-control of which the subject-mass is unconscious and its ability to destroy any who cry out is great. One of the first to be politically destroyed was the head of the Congressional Committee charged to watch over sedition (the Un-American Activities Committee). The Protocols of 1905 foretold that the nation-states would not be allowed to "contend with sedition" by treating it as crime and this "forecast" also was fulfilled. Mr. Martin Dies relates that he was required by the secret inquisition to restrict the definition of "subversion" to "fascism", and to equate "fascism" with "anti-Semitism". "Subversion", had these importuners had their way with him, would have been any kind of resistance to "the destructive principle", not the subverting of the nation-state. He would not yield, but was driven out of political life by defamation.

The A.D.L. (and the American Jewish Committee) "set out to make the American people aware of anti-Semitism". It informed Jews that "25 out of every 100 Americans are infected with anti-Semitism", and that another 50 might develop the disease. By 1945 it was carrying out "a high-powered educational program, geared to reach every man, woman and child" in America through the press, radio, advertising, children's comic books and school books, lectures, films, "churches" and trade unions. This programme included "219 broadcasts a day", full-page advertisements in 397 newspapers, poster advertising in 130 cities, and "persuasions" subtly incorporated in the printed matter on blotters, matchbox covers, and envelopes. The entire national press ("1900 dailies with a 43,000,000 circulation") and the provincial, Negro, foreign-language and labour newspapers were kept supplied with, "and used", its material in the form of "news, background material, cartoons and comic strips". In addition, the A.D.L. in 1945 distributed "more than 330,000 copies of important books carrying our message to libraries and other institutions", furnished authors with "material and complete ideas", and circulated nine million pamphlets "all tailored to fit the audiences to which they are directed". It found "comic books" to be a particularly effective way of reaching the minds of young people, soldiers, sailors and airmen, and circulated "millions of copies" of propaganda in this form. Its organization consisted of the national headquarters, public relations committees in 150 cities, eleven regional offices, and "2,000 key men in 1,000 cities".

The name of the body which supplied this mass of suggestive material never reached the public. During the 1940's the system of "syndicated writers" in New York or Washington enveloped the entire American press. One such writer's column may appear in a thousand newspapers each day; editors like this system, which saves them the cost of employing their own writers, for its cheapness. Through a few dozen such writers the entire stream of information can be tinctured at its source (the method foretold in the Protocols). By all these means a generation has been reared in America (and this applies equally to England) which has been deprived of authentic information about, and independent comment on, the nature of Zionism, its original connection with Communism, the infestation of administrations and capture of "administrators", and the relationship of all this to the ultimate world-government project.

The opposition to this creeping control was strong at first and was gradually crushed during two decades (I have given examples in England) by various methods, including the purchase of newspapers, but chiefly by unremitting and organized pressure, persuasive or menacing. In America a newspaper which prints reports or comment unacceptable to the A.D.L. may expect to receive a visit from its representatives. Threats to withdraw advertising are frequently made. The corps of "syndicated" writers joins in the attack on any individual writer or broadcaster who becomes troublesome; many American commentators have been driven from the publishers' lists or "off the air" in this way.
Of course, the best ideas of what to put out there are things that are indirect, which only raise questions in people's minds. What if the word "Ponerology" started appearing everywhere? Wouldn't people then begin to wonder? To realize that there were mysterious and daring people among them that knew something and they would want to know also? What if the constellation of Cassiopeia were to suddenly begin to appear as a graffito on "subway walls and tenement halls"? How about little airplanes flying banners behind that say "Do you know the Secret History of the World" - flying over the Superbowl, Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, up and down along the beach at Daytona when the 500 is run???

What about matchbook covers? Little comic books like the fundies put out to "save" kids? Stickers, bumpers stickers, billboards, flyers falling out of magazines and newspapers?

There are all kinds of things that can be done in this information war. And each and everyone of them can be an art form like the "Mark of Zorro" or the "Sign of the Scarlet Pimpernel" or the funny little bat symbol of Batman. I personally like the Guy Fawkes mask.

The main thing to do is "create a buzz," a sort of rustling whisper of possibilities in the minds and hearts of people who are so full of despair they cannot speak. Then they will begin to search, and then they will find some answers... and maybe even the SOTT page and some truth.
 
The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
and tenement halls
and whispered, in the sounds, of silence

Heck, you could even take a magic marker and write on little squares of paper and gluestick them to things :)
 
In echo of joejoeba's original post,

When I first started doing my own thing on my website I could gougle a video quite easily and generally get it in any format that came up in a search and on yawho as well. The days of a direct link to a site with a video seem like history. These days both search engines seem to direct to their own streams that you either have the software to change it to the format desired, or you don't, if/when your lucky enough to even get the option to download it.

For the meager bit of stuff I create it doesn't help. 18 months to 2 years ago it was so much easier to find something that fit in in creating expressions of things. I imagine it will get worse, the next phase may be, you have to join the gougle video pay to watch club.
 
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