Religion and Sacred Sex

[Magus]

http://www.livescience.com/28199-stone-age-phallus-found-in-israel.html

Some remarkable traces of Stone Age life were unearthed recently in northern Israel, including a pit of burned bean seeds and a carving of a penis that's more than 6,000 years old, the Israeli Antiquities Authority (IAA) reported.

A 6000 year old carving of a 'Penis' was found in Northern Israel, personal research led me to believe that
this is the 'God' of Israel.

The 'God' of Israel is EL or properly AL, which is composed of 'Alf-Lemda'

The letter 'A' (Alf) comes from a depiction of an Ox/Bulls Head.
The letter 'L' (Lemda) comes from a depiction of a Goad or Crook

Goads are used for guiding the Bull around fields as a means of 'Plowing', Goads are also made from the Penis of the Bull
so this would also symbolize the 'Penis' plowing into the Vagina and the Sun plowing into the horizon at Sun Set
so AL developed into 'Helios' (Sun) and Phallus.

This also forms the name Israel or in Phoenician 'ISR-AL' the first part ISR is a variant on 'Ashereh' (ASRE)
the consort of AL... "ASRE" was once 'ASTRE" (The T silences off) which is synonym with "ISHTAR' which derive back
to the Sumerian word 'USH TAR" which means Uterus.

John Allegro
The Sumerian ideogram for “love” consisted of a burning torch in a womb. The dull-red tip of the penis was thought of as a fiery
brand igniting the furnace of the uterus, as the sun each evening set alight the bituminous heart of the earth

'Fire' symbolized the Gestation of the Uterus and it symbolized 'Purity', the word "Pure" is traced back to the Greek "PYR" which means
Fire, in Hebrew 'BOR' means Pure, in the New Testament, Fire and Water where both associated with Purity 'Baptism with Fire'
and this 'Fire' became 'Hell Fire', note how "Hell' is depicted as being 'Under the Earth' because Earth = Mother, so the Under of the Earth is essentially the 'Womb' of the Earth, where Life spring-forth.

The word 'Hell' means a Concealed Place (cf. Old Norse hellir "cave, cavern") and 'Caves' are also associated with the Vaginal Opening
furthermore the Arabic word for hell is 'Jahannam', Greek word is 'Geenna' both derived from the Phoenician "GAI ENM" or "Hinnom Valley", which is a Gorge near the Dead Sea, that during Summer Time, becomes extremely hot, the Semitics associated this with Gestation so the Valley as visioned as a 'Birth Canal'

Hell is a Vagina

John Allegro
This gorge was the original “valley of the shadow of death”, as its Hebrew designation salmaweth
is wrongly translated in Psalm 23:4, and elsewhere. The real meaning of the original Sumerian
*SILA_MUD means rather the opposite, “way of birth”, that is, “birth.canal”.28 Now the point of
Molech having his “sperm-dedication” ceremonies here is clearly seen. So also can be
appreciated the Psalmist’s concern that his shepherd-god Yahweh should guide him by “rod and
staff” through the valley, that he should fear no evil. As a baby’s fragile body needs the firm but
gentle hand of the midwife as it is pressed into life through the vagina, so the religious mystic
needed to put his hand in his god’s as he passed through the experience of re-birth.
The Arabs call the valley the Wady of Fire. It is well-named. Not only does the summer sun
raise the temperature within its gorges to almost unbearable heights, but at its lower end it
debouches onto the Dead Sea, the nearest point on the world’s surface to the generative furnaces
of mother earth’s womb.

 

[Magus]

In Egypt, the ANKH (An-Ki) symbolized Life because its composed of the Penis and Vagina, because those two make a Baby ;)

AN in Sumerian means "Sky'
KI in Sumerian means 'Earth'

AN is 'Father-Sky' and the KI is 'Mother-Earth' in Sumerian which also developed into 'Uranos and Gaia'

AN down to "N" (Nun) which is Water, the N shape in Egyptian represents Water and Semen
since the 'Sky' is also a father, then the Rain is the 'Semen' of the Sky-Father that falls down
to fertilize the 'Mother-Earth', which is why the Ancient Egyptian creation story begins with the Male-God Ejaculating.

The Sumerian 'KI' (Earth) formed the Hebrew name 'Eve', in Sumerian "KI_BA" note this developed into
'Tebah' (name of Noah's Ark in Hebrew), 'Kaaba', 'Cybele' and also Cube/Cave and also switching the syllables
into "BA_KI" (VA_GI) ... Vagina.

Tebah is the word 'Ark' in Hebrew, as in 'Noah's Ark' its also Feminine in Hebrew, which in reality is a 'Womb', note if your a Pregnant Woman, you can place both hands blow the Bump to form an Ark shape, the Baby surrounded by the Waters of the womb hence the envisioned of 'Ark' floating on these Waters,

Kaaba is a Black Cube, its a Box or an enclosure, very much like the Womb, the Kaaba(Vagina) is the consort of Allah (Penis).

The color of 'Kaaba' is Black, this color represented the Dark Blood of the female, in opposition to the White semen of the male
also symbolized with the 2 birds, White Dove and the Black Raven.

John Allegro
As Nature is composed of opposites, and as the foetus is born of the white sperm of the male
and the dark red blood of the female, so the white dove has its counterpart in the black raven

It was a raven that was sent out first from Noah’s ark to survey the flooded world, and it was a
dove sent out later that brought back evidence of new growth in its beak

 

[obyvatel]

I wonder whether these associations to sexuality is reflective of human tendencies towards anthropomorphism and glorification of sex rather than being representative of some fundamental aspect of reality. To me physical sexuality seems like just one of the many facets of creativity - one that operates at the instinctive level. There are other higher levels of creative expression which do not really require the language of physical sexuality to be described adequately. Kind of reminds me of Freudian psychology and its treatment of the human unconscious as nothing but a storehouse of repressed sexual emotions.

 

[Laura]

Thanks for those interesting tidbits.

Indeed, the ancients had a very different perception of many things, and it's documented in many works along those lines. It's interesting to study how those ideas combined with other elements, morphed over time, etc., but it is not a study of much value to us today, especially not in any spiritual terms.

 

[Magus]

Genesis 2:7 is the creation of the Adam in the Bible, this 'Adam' is not the first man, buts its a general account of what ancients thought how Humans are created, note the 2 main elements in this creation process is 'Blood of the Female" and the "Semen of the Male", Ancients had no Idea about the 'Sperm or Egg", so to them, its Blood and Semen.

Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground

Genesis 2:7 mentions "Dust of the Ground", its these that contain the two creation elements
"Dust" in Hebrew is OPR (Masculine) and Ground in Hebrew is "ADME" (Feminine)

'ADME" in Hebrew means 'Red', break this down to "DM" which means Blood, so this is the Blood of the female.

'OPR' is Masculine, translated as 'Dust'.

Gen 28:14
And thy seed(ZRO) shall be as the dust(OPR)
-OPR is equated with ZRO(also Masculine) meaning Seed, ZRO relates with ZRM which means 'Semen'

OPR also relates to PRI (masculine), which is the name of Fruit Eve was tempted with.

OPR ZRM (Semen of the Man)
ADME (Blood of the Female)

Eve was tempted by the Snake (NHS - Masculine) to consume the Fruit (PRI - Masculine)

Snakes in Ancient antiquity where associated with the Penis, in Hebrew its 'NHS', this word is also used
in the Book of Exodus, when Moses transformed a 'Rod' into a 'Snake'

NHS in Hebrew means Serpent, Enchanter or Brass.

Exodus 7:15
Rod(MTE) which was turned to a serpent(NHS) shalt thou take in thine hand.

MTE (Masculine) translates as Rod, which derives from NTE meaning 'to stretch out'
the Rod was turned into a Snake, this is the erection of the penis.

 

[Laura]

So? Seems to me that you have an excessively prurient thought process going on there.

 

[griffin]

So? Seems to me that you have an excessively prurient thought process going on there.

Human sexuality would be a banal topic if didn't verge into the spiritual realm, as it does for those who are fortunate enough to experience that aspect of it. Dr Griffin might be tempted to prescribe a bit of over-indulgence in pornography to blunt an obsession with sex, but that would shortchange the real potential of loving, sexual bonding between couples to nurture their mutual support throughout their journey through life.

However, this forum seems to have attracted a few new members who are obsessed by sex, such as one who recently, let's say, somewhat overshared her sexual life story, fantasies and even ambitions.

I suspect that some of these pilgrims might be trying to divert this forum into a venue that's involved in discussions of sexuality, and if so they might be COINTELPRO agents attempting to distract and degrade conversations here.

If that's the case, I don't think they'll get very far. With maybe only a few exceptions among younger members, I think that we're all mature enough and experienced enough to simply shrug it off and, as you've implied Laura, suggest that they express their obsessions elsewhere.