Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

We don't have a branch about Georgia, so I'll emboss it here. Moreover, there are processes plus or minus parallel to the Ukrainian ones. Specifically, the local parliament tried to adopt a law on foreign agents, i.e. some part of the country's authorities tried to take the country out from under external influence and here is the result. The second day there is a Maidan, a copy of Kiev. It is interesting that the president of the country supports the protesters, but it is understandable - she is just one of those with whom the adopted law is designed to fight.
Large-scale protests in Georgia resulted in throwing Molotov cocktails at security forces and storming the parliament
Large-scale protests continue for the second night in Georgia.

After the Georgian parliament tried to pass a bill on foreign agents, waves of large-scale protests swept across the territory of Georgia. After the protesters failed to achieve any success at the parliament building on the first night, an attempt was made to storm the Georgian government building on the second night, and various objects began to fly at the security forces - stones, bottles and Molotov cocktails.

On the presented video footage, you can see that real chaos reigns on the streets of Tbilisi, and, apparently, the originally planned protests as a peaceful action immediately turned into clashes with the police – the latter began to use force, and the radicals began throwing stones and molotov cocktails at the police, smashing shop windows and police cars.

Initially, the attempt to disperse the protesters by the security forces was successful, however, literally within half an hour, the police and special forces already had to retreat, as the radicals began to use homemade weapons more and more actively, which created a threat to the lives of law enforcement officials.
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Масштабные протесты в Грузии вылились в забрасывание силовиков коктейлями Молотова и штурм парламента

In my opinion, all this is very indicative of everyone else: the Balts, Moldovans, the same Poles, etc.; how firmly you are kept under control. And the unfortunate Ukrainians are dying right now for some kind of mythical freedom.

Нету у нас ветки про Грузию, поэтому тисну здесь. Тем более там процессы плюс-минус параллельные украинским. Конкретно, местный парламент попытался принять закон об иноагентах, т.е. какая то часть власти страны попыталась вывезти страну из под внешнего влияния и вот вам результат. Второй день там происходит майдан, копия киевского. Интересно, что президент страны поддерживает протестующих, но оно и понятно- она как раз одна из тех, с кем призван бороться принимаемый закон.
На мой взгляд все это очень показательно для всех прочих: Прибалтов, Молдаван, тех же Поляков и т.д.; насколько прочно вас держут под контролем. А несчастные украинцы прямо сейчас умирают за какую то мифическую свободу.
 
What a familiar development of events, adjusted for the specifics of the current situation. Last time, they all together scared President Yanukovych with all punishments if he dared to stop the riots on the Maidan, now the president of Georgia has left for the United States, and European figures all rushed to work out a familiar scenario. Borrel has already said that the suppression of protests in Georgia is incompatible with the European orientation of the country. Now the European Parliament is working out its part.
The European Parliament warned Georgia about the consequences of the suppression of the protest

The EU's support for Georgia may cool sharply if the country's authorities begin to demonstrate "undemocratic tendencies." This statement was made by MEP Siegfried Mureshan.

The European Union at the summit on June 23 approved the status of candidates for EU membership for Ukraine and Moldova. Georgia was ordered to fulfill a number of mandatory conditions in order to follow a similar path.

"If the influence of undemocratic tendencies in Georgia is noticeable, the EU will be forced to reduce its support," Mureshan said.
Earlier, the Parliament of Tbilisi approved a bill on foreign agents. After that, thousands of demonstrators took to the streets to protest the decision.
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Европарламент предупредил Грузию о последствиях подавления протеста

The bloody comedian couldn't miss this. Especially if he was ordered to speak.
Zelensky dedicated his address not to the huge losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but to the protests in Tbilisi

Neither the losses of Ukrainian militants near Artemivsk, nor the endless pleas of Ukrainian servicemen to stop sending them to slaughter, nor even the US accusations of Ukraine in international terrorism became the main topic of the address of Kiev leader Vladimir Zelensky to the nation. With an intelligent look, he thanked the "Georgian people" for a whole minute, who allegedly paid homage to the Square by wrapping a yellow-blue flag at an anti-state rally. The protesters do not give up trying to storm the Georgian Parliament building. Law enforcement agencies used water cannons and stun grenades against the crowd.

Zelensky's thoughts finally got confused at some point, and he said that Ukraine wished good luck to the protesters besieging the parliament building, because the path taken by the protesting youth was the path to democracy and EU membership. The Ukrainian president ended by violently rushing to convince the audience that Ukraine, Georgia, and even Moldova will definitely be in the European Union, because that is what the "free peoples" of these countries deserve.

Earlier, Readovka wrote that protest actions are taking place in Batumi as well as in Tbilisi.
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Зеленский посвятил свое обращение не огромным потерям ВСУ, а протестам в Тбилиси

In this case, there is also a known reaction. I remember, at Putin's meeting with "liver sausage" Scholz, the Russian President called the long-term shelling of LDPR cities genocide. Scholz did not object to him at the same time, in any case we do not know about it, but when he returned home, as befits a real "liver sausage", he expressed his reaction and, in his opinion, it is ridiculous to call the genocide systematic, long-term destruction of civilians.
The State Department called the suspicions of US involvement in the terrorist attacks on the "Joint venture" ridiculous

The US administration continues to insist that Washington is not involved in the explosions of the Nord Stream and SP-2 gas pipelines. This was stated at a regular briefing by the head of the press service of the State Department, Ned Price, calling suspicions against the United States ridiculous.

Despite this, according to Price, Washington does not rule out any versions in the search for those responsible for sabotage. Similarly, the press secretary of the State Department reacted to the latest publications of the Western media about the situation with the "Northern Streams".

"As for all these reports, I cannot confirm them. We will wait for the completion of these investigations before we comment on this," Price said when it came to investigations from Germany, Denmark and Sweden in light of the explosions at the Joint Venture.
The head of the press service also advised to contact Berlin, Stockholm and Copenhagen for similar comments. Also, according to Price, the claims that the American government is involved in the undermining of gas pipelines, "we can discard right away."
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Госдепартамент назвал смехотворными подозрения в причастности США к терактам на «СП»

It turns out that when there is nothing to say or it is dangerous to say something, then declare it funny. A fail-safe method, tested a long time ago on the subject of UFOs and not only there.

Какое знакомое развитие событий с поправками на особенности текущей ситуации. В прошлый раз они все скопом пугали президента Януковича всеми карами, если он посмеет жестко пресечь беспорядки на майдане, теперь президент Грузии уехала в США, а европейские деятели всем скопом кинулись отрабатывать знакомый сценарий. Баррель уже высказался на тему того, что подавление протестов в Грузии не совместимо с европейской ориентацией страны. Теперь вот европарламент отрабатывает свою часть.
Кровавый комик не мог пропустить такое. Тем более, если приказали выступить.
В этом случае тоже наблюдается известная реакция. Помнится, на встрече Путина с "ливерной колбасой" Шольцем, Российский Президент назвал многолетние обстрелы городов ЛДНР геноцидом. Шольц при этом ему не возразил, во всяком случае нам об этом неизвестно, а вот вернувшись домой он, как и положено настоящей "ливерной колбасе" высказал свою реакцию и по его мнению называть планомерное, многолетнее уничтожение мирного населения геноцидом, это смехотворно.
Получается, что когда нечего сказать или говорить что либо опасно, то объявляй это смешным. Безотказный метод, давным давно опробованный на теме НЛО и не только там.
 
What a self-confident type. "Boys-to the left, girls-to the right" and that's it-the job is done.
Donald Trump proposed to give Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine to Russia

Former President of the United States of America Donald Trump, in an interview with Fox News, admitted the possibility of transferring part of the territories of Ukraine to the Russian Federation to stop a special military operation.

According to the British edition of the Daily Beast, later this fragment of the conversation with Trump was cut from the air. In an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, which Trump gave on March 6, the ex-president said that in order to stop the fighting, Russia could be allowed to "seize" part of Ukraine.

"I could negotiate. In the worst case, I could agree to give something to Russia, there are certain regions in Ukraine that, frankly, are Russian-speaking," Trump said in an unpublished part of the interview, according to the Daily Beast.

In addition, as the newspaper notes, Trump said that during the military conflict "many more people die than reported." According to the Daily Beast, when Hannity published excerpts of his interview with Trump, they already lacked fragments in which the ex-president talks about the possible transfer of Ukrainian territories to Russia, as well as the number of those killed in hostilities.

According to the publication, about 30 seconds of his speech were cut out of Trump's interview in total. In the part of the broadcast that is publicly available, Trump says that if he had remained president of the United States, then Russia's military conflict with Ukraine "would never have happened."

Donald Trump has repeatedly made statements that if he wins the next presidential election, he will be able to resolve the military conflict "in 24 hours." At the same time, the former American leader refused to name specific actions that he would take in order to "end the war" in a day. As Trump claimed, if he had voiced them, he "probably would not have been able" to implement his plan.

Donald Trump's "magic formula", as it turned out, did not contain any magic and provided for the dismemberment of Ukraine on a national basis: Ukrainian regions to the right, and Russians to the left. In practice, this implies the transition to Russia of all regions of Left-Bank Ukraine and the south of this country, with the exception of the Poltava region. For Ukraine, as a country, such a division would mean a catastrophe, since what would remain of Ukraine would be deprived of access to the sea, almost 70% of industrial potential, 80% of chernozem, almost all minerals. In addition, almost all major megacities symbolizing both Soviet and post—Soviet Ukraine — Kharkiv, Dnipro, Odessa, Krivoy Rog - turned out to be in the Russian "sector". At the same time, Central and Western Ukraine would be almost mono-national and Ukrainian-speaking, i.e. there would be no problems of interethnic character there (mutual migration of the population does not count). As a result, D. Trump's plan is to return Ukraine to the 17th — 18th centuries or partially by 2022 (the founding of the USSR). It is clear that Kiev in any case would be categorically against such a plan, and first of all because even Crimea is considered Ukrainian in the Ukrainian political class, populated by Ukrainians and everyone there is obliged to speak Ukrainian. But we must not forget that Kiev's dependence on the United States is colossal and the Ukrainian authorities would not be able to resist Washington's desire to stop the escalation in any way. The example of Afghanistan has become a classic," said political expert Andrey Suzdaltsev.
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Дональд Трамп предложил отдать России русскоязычные области Украины

The further it goes, the more obvious it becomes that this is not enough. From the very beginning, the goals of the SMO were announced: demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. How will Russia be able to influence these processes under such a Trump scenario? They will guarantee everything to Russia in a Western crowd, but they will throw it again, it's like we say: you don't need to go to the grandmother (meaning a witch who can predict). The so-called "grain deal" is the latest example of this. And what is the result? Another 8 years and another war. And all these years we will have to deal not with the development of the country, but with intensified preparations for a future, almost guaranteed war. A tempting prospect, nothing to say.

Какой самоуверенный тип. "Мальчики-налево, девочки-направо" и все-дело сделано.
Чем дальше, тем очевидней становится, что этого недостаточно. С самого начала были объявлены цели СВО: демилитаризация и денацификация Украины. Как при таком сценарии Трампа Россия сможет повлиять на эти процессы? Они всем западным скопом будут гарантировать России что угодно, но опять кинут, это как у нас говорят: к бабке (имеется ввиду ведьма, умеющая предсказывать) ходить не надо. Т.н. "зерновая сделка" последний пример этого. И что в результате? Очередные какие нибудь 8 лет и снова война. И все эти годы нам надо будет заниматься не развитием страны, а усиленной подготовкой к будущей, практически гарантированной войне. Заманчивая перспектива, ничего не скажешь.
 
Swedish Church prepares for 500.000 deaths in a war with Russia

It is the kind of articles which do give me a little bit of a hiccup, the first time since 1984, when I arrived here in Stockholm, Sweden, and at school got a folder put into my hands, with "what to do, and how to prepare in case of a nuclear strike / being in a war".

Apparently the Swedish Church got the order about preparations. Coupled with another article, which calls for the likelihood that Sweden likely is the first country to get sacrificed in a NATO war against Russia... (that article i put below the first)

In swedish
nyheter.swebbtv.se

Kyrkan förbereder för 500.000 döda i krig med Ryssland - gravfälten ses över

Förberedelserna för ett eventuellt krig med Ryssland fortsätter.
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The Church of Sweden must be prepared for the possibility of half a million Swedes dying in a future NATO war with Russia.

Therefore, all churches in the country have been asked to prepare for mass deaths of Swedes, reports Swedish Television East / SVT Nyheter Öst.

Preparations for a possible war with Russia continue.

The Church of Sweden has raised the level of preparedness, as Swebbtv News has previously reported. At the end of last year, the bishop sent a letter to all the country's vicars, urging them to prepare for war. The task is to plan burial sites for a total of five per cent of Sweden's population. According to SVT, these are 'war graves for half a million people'. This corresponds to Ukraine's total losses, dead and wounded, so far in the ongoing war with Russia, according to Douglas Macgregor. This means, among other things, finding land for a large number of new graves, and planning for potential problems, such as the failure of crematoria.

Churches must also be prepared for the fact that they will not be able to identify the people who die. This is usually the case in wars. Therefore, people must not be buried too deeply but must be able to be dug up again for identification. So you have to have a system for this as well.

- We are on our way to one of the parts of the cemetery that we call "The Disaster" which is set aside to be used in case of war, says Pär Österlund, vicar of Finspång's parish, to SVT Öst and points out that the time feels unpredictable and that the whole thing has come close to personal now.

There are legal requirements for the church to be able to bury a large number of people in the event of war.

Chapter 8, section 3 of the Burial Act states: "A parish that is the principal of the funeral service shall make the necessary preparations for this service during high alert."

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Sweden heading for direct war with Russia
In swedish
nyheter.swebbtv.se

Sverige på väg mot direkt krig med Ryssland

I stället för att kvarstå som ett neutralt land vald makteliten i Sverige att stödja det globalistiska proxykriget mot Ryssland → Läs mer
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PS: all links embedded in the DeepL translated text, are mainly in Swedish
The Swedish right-wing regime's escalation of arms deliveries to Ukraine brings Sweden closer to war with Russia.

If Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson's (M) government goes so far as to sending Gripen aircraft to Kiev, this is the path to "direct confrontation" with Russia, says Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov in an interview with SvD / Svenska Dagbladet

Instead of remaining a neutral country with diplomacy as a means and high international goodwill, the power elite in Sweden chose to support the globalist proxy war against Russia - which according to NATO began in 2014 not 2022 - and join the US military alliance NATO, whose members the US and Norway last September, according to investigative journalist Seymour Hersh (🇬🇧), terror-bombed the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines.

Sweden's new government is fuelling the war more than the previous one, sending record-breaking war packages including artillery systems, advanced tanks and military vehicles.

And now Sweden is about to enter into direct confrontation with Russia. This is becoming increasingly clear. In the media you can read article after article preparing the Swedes for war.

As recently as today, Swedish Radio reported that "there is enough food in case of war - but we must eat less meat".

At the same time, the Church of Sweden is preparing for the mass death of Swedes in the event of war, as reported by Public Service last week. Each parish must ensure that it can receive and bury five per cent of its members. This should be possible in a short time, and applies everywhere in the whole country.

You can also read that the county administrative boards are now intensifying their efforts to protect Swedish cultural heritage from being "destroyed" in the event of war.

'The county administrative boards are now stepping up their efforts to identify, select and label the cultural properties in the counties that are of greatest national importance. In war, it is common for cultural property to be the target of attacks", writes the County Administrative Board of Gävleborg.

Today, Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said in an interview with SvD that Sweden is moving towards "direct confrontation" with his country if the Swedish government sends Gripen aircraft to Ukraine. He also points out that NATO membership will not make Sweden safer.

Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson has recently declared that "nothing is excluded" regarding the delivery of Gripen aircraft to Ukraine. In other words, he does not rule out doing so. However, he also seems to be aware of what is going on. Because in an interview with DN (Dagens Nyheter), when asked about the delivery of Gripen, he replied that "there are always limits in a war before you actually become part of the war".

At the beginning of January, it emerged that Sweden would be the first NATO country to be sent to war with Russia, as "we are the closest".

It was recently revealed that it was the US and Norway that bombed Europe's Nord Stream energy infrastructure in September last year. The explosive devices were deployed during a NATO exercise in June. The gas pipelines, which are critical for Europe to get cheap energy, were then blown up by remote detonation three months later, according to Seymour Hersh.
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According to the Polish Defense Ministry, Poland is launching a srewis hub to service Leopard 2 tanks sent by our country to Ukraine.
There are now 4 pcs in Ukraine and later this week they are sending another 10 tanks.
Could it be that our rulers are counting on ( at the instigation of the Americans in power) that the Russians will eventually attack a NATO country?

God what stupid people are ruling us.


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Militarna pomoc dla Ukrainy. MON jest gotowy uruchomić hub serwisowy

Zakłady Mechaniczne Bumar Łabędy będą remontować czołgi Leopard, które trafiły na Ukrainę - poinformował Mariusz Błaszczak, wicepremier i minister obrony narodowej, tuż przed wylotem na sesję nieformalnego posiedzenia ministrów obrony państw Unii Europejskiej w Sztokholmie.
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'More poverty for more control: The Nord Stream sabotage that causes increasing inflation in EU is "beneficial" for the Polish president Andrzej Duda.'

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Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe

The destruction of the Russian Nord Stream gas pipeline was good for Europe regardless of who did it, Polish President Andrzej Duda believes
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8 Mar, 2023

'I am not buying it! (More bullshit from CIA)'

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CIA issued advance Nord Stream warning to allies – WSJ

The CIA warned allies in the EU that a pro-Ukrainian group might be preparing to target the Nord Stream pipelines, a report claims
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9 Mar, 2023
 

Moscow conducts major ‘retaliation strike’ on Ukraine​

"The missile barrage came in response to a terrorist attack on Russia’s Bryansk region, the Ministry of Defense has said"

"In a statement, the ministry said that the attack involved “high-precision long-range air, sea, and land-based weapons, including the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system.” The latter has a range of more than 2,000 km."

“The massive retaliation strike” hit key elements of Ukraine's military infrastructure, defense industry complexes as well as energy facilities that contribute to their operations. “The mission has been accomplished. All assigned targets have been hit," the statement said."

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Moscow conducts major ‘retaliation strike’ on Ukraine

Russia has conducted a “massive retaliation strike” on Ukraine in response to an earlier terrorist attack, the Ministry of Defense has said
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youlik said:
I completely share it. I am not an enemy of Poland or anyone else, but it is you who are being made enemies of Russia, and therefore mine.
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Youlik, I don't work for Biden. I get a monthly payment from Putin in the form of 10 kg. of potatoes. If you check my comments on the subject of 404 State (Ukraine) and Russia you should be able to figure out that I am an agent of Russia. I hope they don't catch me.

OK, take a deep breath. The above is written in comical form, in case you don't get it since it is in English. I do speak Russian but typing in Russian would take me far too long.

Anyway, I have awaken from my deep sleep around 2000. I do know where Russia is on the map because I was there on business more than once. When I see a map like this,

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I understand why Russia can not allow any NATO/US bases or troops in 404 State. Only fools or deeply hypnotized people would not understand this.

Sometime I bring into the discussion this incident to make the point why Russia acted as it did but it does not help. Propaganda is very powerful but stupidity even more. But that is true everywhere.

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The Cuban Missile Crisis began 58 years ago

On October 16, 1962, a 13-day Cold War-era crisis began when U.S. President John F. Kennedy was notified of Russian nuclear ballistic missiles discovered
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Hi_Henry said:
Youlik, I don't work for Biden. I get a monthly payment from Putin in the form of 10 kg. of potatoes.
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Something you have cheapened. Putin pays me as much as 12.5 kg.
But seriously, I didn't mean you at all, but those unfortunate people who are going crazy from the imposed Russophobia by whole countries (I'm exaggerating again), first of all of course Ukraine, but further Poland, etc.

Чего то вы продешевили. Мне Путин платит целых 12,5 кг.
А если серьезно, то я имел ввиду вовсе не вас, а тех несчастных, которые сходят с ума от навязанной русофобии целыми странами (я опять утрирую), в первую очередь конечно Украина, но и дальше Польша и т.д.
 
youlik said:
Something you have cheapened. Putin pays me as much as 12.5 kg.
But seriously, I didn't mean you at all, but those unfortunate people who are going crazy from the imposed Russophobia by whole countries (I'm exaggerating again), first of all of course Ukraine, but further Poland, etc.
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I'm renegotiating my contract as soon as possible.

No I figured you didn't mean me specifically. But in general you are correct. In my discussion I do watch what I say as you can not convince fanatics of anything.

I came across this a day ago which in a way is related to what I wrote above.

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vulpes said:
If anyone knows more about capabilities of Leopards please tell me... does bunch of this equipment will change anything in combat ability of Ukraine? Ok maybe a hundred but... dozen?
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I don't know the capabilities of the Leopards, but the case for Poland to send them may be part of a U.S. policy to weaken the German and generally European economy in this case by eliminating competition in the arms industry once the Leopards start to burn out.
At first the Germans conditioned the sending of Leopards on the sending of Abrams by the Americans, but the Poles were so raring to send their Leopards that they somehow got their way.
We'll see how it goes, but I don't think so because there's no reason German tanks should be better than Russian ones.
 
Nević Nenad said:
Not even a hundred can change anything in any significant way. Seems that all "tank talk" is just a propaganda stunt so far.
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I would agree
As I understood Poland will deliver 10 tanks of Leopard 2 model
For months, Kiev lobbied,. and wish to get at least 500 examples, and what Kiev wants, it gets those days, so it will get more than 500 Western tanks. However, not exactly what they expected. Germany as I read decided to give Leopard 1 model.
Leoard 1 entered serial production in 1965

Unlike Berlin's reluctance to allow delivery of the Leopard 2 tanks, the decision to deliver the Leopard 1 was much easier. Accordingly, Ukrainians' enthusiasm for the new tank is much lower. After all, it is a combat vehicle whose serial production began way back in 1965.

It was discontinued in 1984 after 6,565 units were produced. Of course, not everyone joined the armed forces of the then Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany). More than half went to foreign buyers, which is the best proof that it was a very good tank. Today, the Leopard 1s are obsolete with limited combat capabilities, but that doesn't mean that the Ukrainian military couldn't use them. Not as an offensive weapon, though
 
vulpes said:
If anyone knows more about capabilities of Leopards please tell me... does bunch of this equipment will change anything in combat ability of Ukraine? Ok maybe a hundred but... dozen?
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Here they compare Leo2 with T-90. In short, the German's protection is worse, the German's weight is greater, the German's crew is larger due to the loader, in the T-90 the gun is charged automatically, the German's firing range is noticeably less, but it is believed that due to advanced sighting systems, the German is more accurate. It is believed that the German is more mobile because of the powerful engine, but in comparison the T-90 is given, and not the T-90m, whose engine is more powerful and because of its lower weight and comparable power, the T-90m is better than the German. I do not understand at all where a German can have chances when meeting both T-90 and T90m, and even more so with T-14, but people who are authoritative in tank issues say that a lot depends on the crew.

I would agree
As I understood Poland will deliver 10 tanks of Leopard 2 model
For months, Kiev lobbied,. and wish to get at least 500 examples, and what Kiev wants, it gets those days, so it will get more than 500 Western tanks. However, not exactly what they expected. Germany as I read decided to give Leopard 1 model.
Leoard 1 entered serial production in 1965

Unlike Berlin's reluctance to allow delivery of the Leopard 2 tanks, the decision to deliver the Leopard 1 was much easier. Accordingly, Ukrainians' enthusiasm for the new tank is much lower. After all, it is a combat vehicle whose serial production began way back in 1965.

It was discontinued in 1984 after 6,565 units were produced. Of course, not everyone joined the armed forces of the then Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany). More than half went to foreign buyers, which is the best proof that it was a very good tank. Today, the Leopard 1s are obsolete with limited combat capabilities, but that doesn't mean that the Ukrainian military couldn't use them. Not as an offensive weapon, though
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Leo 1 is very poorly protected by current standards and there are big problems with ammunition for it - they have not been released for a long time. But nevertheless, it can be used, we are fighting T-62

Вот здесь сравнивают Leo2 с Т-90. Вкратце защита у немца хуже, вес у немца больше, экипаж у немца больше за счет заряжающего, в Т-90 пушка заряжается автоматически, дальность выстрела у немца ощутимо меньше, но считается что из за передовых прицельных систем немец точнее. Считается, что немец подвижнее из за мощного двигателя, но в сравнении приводится Т-90, а не Т-90м, у которого двигатель мощнее и из за меньшего веса и сопоставимой мощности Т-90м лучше немца. Я вообще не понимаю где у немца могут быть шансы при встрече и с Т-90 и с Т90м и тем более с Т-14, но авторитетные в танковых вопросах люди говорят, что очень много зависит от экипажа.
Leo 1 очень слабо защищенный по нынешним меркам и с боеприпасами к нему большие проблемы- их давно не выпускают. Но тем не менее применение ему найти можно, у нас же воюют Т-62
 
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