Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

Starting next week, COPASIR, the Parliamentary Committee for the Security of the Republic (Italy) will start a surveillance program on news platforms concerning 'disinformation' and specifically the Ukraine conflict. One of the articles run like that:

Ukraine, Copasir will do an in-depth look at disinformation
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To preserve editorial autonomy. Hearings Aisi, Rai, Agcom
In today's meeting Copasir resolved to carry out "an in-depth examination of foreign interference and disinformation activities, also with a view to preserving editorial and informative freedom and autonomy from any form of conditioning, with particular reference to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine".

This was stated by the president of the Committee, Adolfo Urso, adding that "are already scheduled, in this regard, the hearings of the director of Aisi, Mario Parente, Wednesday, May 11, the CEO Rai, Carlo Fuortes, Thursday, May 12 and the president of Agcom, Giacomo Lasorella, Wednesday, May 18.

The Copasir, recalls Urso, "has long focused its attention, as part of the hybrid threat, on the use of cyberspace, fake news, social networks and forms of conditioning of public and private media, as instruments of interference by invasive state actors.

The Committee has, moreover, acquired further elements, during the hearing of the President of the Council of Ministers, held on April 5, as well as in that of the Director of AISE held yesterday".

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Cosmos said:
Very good and interesting summary. I see it similarly although I think 2 minutes is way too fast, even for the Russians.

While the new hypersonic Russian weapons are very fast, they still take much longer than 2 Minutes to reach any place on earth. As far as I remember, Putin presented 6 different new types of weapons and missiles in 2018. The fastest is the „Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle“, which travels at a speed of 20-27 Mach, which translates into 24,695 km/h - 33,339 km/h. The circumference of earth is 40,075 km and half of it is 20,037.5 km. So, even that fastest hypersonic weapon of the Russians can reach the farthest target on the globe (20,037.5 km away) at the maximum speed of 27 Mach, theoretically in 36 Minutes. But in the case of the Avangard, it first needs to be transported via AN ICBM type rocket (a new supersonic weapon below can do it too!) high up into the earth atmosphere on a ballistic trajectory, which likely adds a couple of minutes to that count. And the range of it is uncertain too. Some speculate it is over 6000 km.

The second fastest of those new weapons is RS-28 Sarmat, with a maximum speed of Mach 20.7 = 25,560 km/h (it can deliver an unspecified number of „Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles“!). It has no range limitation.

The third-fastest missile is Kh-47M2 Kinzhal, with a speed between Mach 10 – Mach 12 (12,300–14,700 km/h) and a range of 2000 km.

In addition, a yet unspecified unmanned underwater vehicle was presented which could be some kind of Poseidon in addition to a Laser weapon with the name Peresvet. The max speed of the water vehicle is unclear, but it will likely be around Mach 1 - Mach 2. And the laser weapon obviously can't be counted to the hypersonic missile arsenal and likely can't reach very far targets.

Which leaves one missile, the 9M730 Burevestnik, which might be one of the most interesting ones, since it doesn't follow a ballistic trajectory, is reportedly also hypersonic (Mach 1 or more) and has practically no range limit because it is powered by a small nuclear reactor and can carry a nuclear warhead and can't be intercepted. Theoretically, it should be able to fly "forever" but from what Putin said it doesn't seem to be meant to do that although it theoretically could. So theoretically, if they launch enough of those Burevestnik missiles and let them fly "forever" at the same time in such a way that any single one of those missiles can hit any target on earth within 2 minutes, it might be possible. But I guess that is rather unlikely because something has to eventually wear out in the missile, and it would be quite dangerous with a nuclear warhead.

Having said that, Putin made it clear in that 2018 speech that they have more weapon systems either under development or not disclosed yet. And here we are, 4 years later. So, it could very well be that they have much more up their sleeves...

Just thinking out laud: Theoretically, if they would be able to have a Burevestnik type missile "fly forever" while not having a nuclear warhead, they could launch enough of those and let them fly over the globe constantly and forever which could end the era of "nobody wins a nuclear war" since they could be able to stop any nuclear weapon launch shortly after departure! It could also mean the end of any risk for a nuclear war altogether! Which would be a huge deal. But understandably, they would need to find a very safe way to make those missiles useless in the case of malfunctions and other such risks (like flying them high up in the atmosphere and explode them). Which can never be 100% safe anyway.

Having said that, I also think that what we are witnessing right now is quite unprecedented in known human history and I keep wondering if what we are seeing is exactly what the C's have predicted and kept saying for many years, just in ways we never would have expected to play out!

What is happening is very interesting, that's for sure!
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If these are the sorts of weapons human have, makes you wonder what aliens have and why they haven't mutually destroyed the universe lol
 
A little nightmare at night. I used to write here about prisoners of war from the words of a "militia", now on the same topic from the words of a Russian "volunteer". The former source is a relative from Stakhanov. "Volunteers" are fighting as part of the DPR/LPR troops. These Republican military took almost no prisoners from the very beginning. The military of the Russian Federation, on the contrary, prisoners are only captured strictly. The "volunteers" initially behaved like the Russian military until one case. There was an exchange of prisoners. Changed 40 to 40. From the LPR side, they handed over everyone whole, those who were wounded, treated, fed, clothed. From the side of the APU, EVERYONE was handed over crippled. Eyes gouged out, noses and ears cut off, fingers shot off and cut off, castrated, broken and shot through arms and legs and crosses carved on backs and chests. Who was "lucky" how, but there was NOT a SINGLE whole. In the unit of this "volunteer" about 50 people immediately went home, thank God no one forcibly holds, and those who remained fighting stopped taking prisoners of war. They will take it, take pictures, take it where it should be and "lose" on the way. Such a sad story..

Немного кошмара на ночь. Я раньше писал здесь о военнопленных со слов "ополченца", теперь на ту же тему со слов российского "добровольца". Источник прежний - родственница из Стаханова. Воюют "добровольцы" в составе войск ДНР/ЛНР. Эти республиканские военные пленных с самого начала почти не брали. Военные РФ наоборот пленных только в плен строго. "Добровольцы" поначалу вели себя как и военные РФ до одного случая. Случился обмен пленными. Меняли 40 на 40. Со стороны ЛНР передали всех целыми, тех кто был ранен, подлеченными, накормленными, одетыми. Со стороны ВСУ передали покалеченными ВСЕХ. Выколотые глаза, отрезанные носы и уши, отстреленные и отрезанные пальцы, кастрированные, перебитые и простреленные руки-ноги и кресты, вырезанные на спинах и груди. Кому как "повезло", но целого не было НИ ОДНОГО. В подразделении этого "добровольца" около 50 человек сразу уехали домой, слава богу насильно никто не держит, а те кто остались пленных сразу перестали брать в плен. Возьмут, пофотографируют, повезут куда положено да и "потеряют" по дороге. Такая вот грустная история.
 
Just curious, how do you guys explain that Graham Phillips and Patrick Lancaster are still allowed to post and have a channel on YouTube? You'd think that they'd been deplatformed weeks ago. Of course, I'm glad that they aren't banned (yet) since they're doing excellent and important reporting.

Here's Phillips' latest report, which includes impressive drone footage near the Azovstal factory:
 
Maria Zaharova has an excellent sense of history and our now times (many examples above), she is just one smart lady. And here she well knits together what is know by many others:

Zaharova said:
ziutek said:
By the way, you know what the most interesting thing is. The editor of "Krakovskie vesti" was Mikhailo Khomyak, a Ukrainian collaborator and supporter of Hitler. So he is the direct grandfather of the current Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, H. Freeland, one of the key figures among Russophobe circles in the Americas. It is H.Freeland who most often calls for the isolation of our country, citing, among other things, Bucha. Simply repeating after his grandfather what he and his fascist associates failed to do eighty years ago.
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This is picked up in this story:

And now - the most important thing! Fanfare! The mentioned "Krakow News", that important instrument of fascist Ukrainian-language propaganda - was edited by Mihajlo Homjak, a Ukrainian journalist of collaborationists.

Apart from his criminal past, he is known for another fact from his biography. Namely, Mihajlo Homjak is the grandfather of Christa Freeland, the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada.

Now go back to the beginning of the text and read it again.
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The roots of this tree seem to have spanned generations, to Canadas great shame.
 
Voyageur said:
Maria Zaharova has an excellent sense of history and our now times (many examples above), she is just one smart lady. And here she well knits together what is know by many others:

Zaharova said:


This is picked up in this story:



The roots of this tree seem to have spanned generations, to Canadas great shame.
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You know, it seems that certain ideas and ideologies are proven to work for sowing hate and use when needed. They are universal in all times.
The exclusivism of belonging to a "chosen" people, martyrdom, a superior race.
This seems like a pandora's box that is always on standby.
When they use it in some period of time in some territory, after the task is done, the best carriers of this ideology are evacuated for safekeeping, e.g. to Canada, USA...
This is exactly how the Poles have now been infected with this virus, literally like a virus. People whom I know, whom I thought to be wise have suddenly become stupid. As if they had contracted some kind of mind virus.


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Calculating creatures. The other day, more than 100 people left Azovstal. More than 60 of them decided to leave for Ukrainian territory, these were apparently members of Nazi families. Now the trapped creatures made sure that their families had reached somewhere and were safe and began to bargain with the remaining peaceful ones. For the Nazis, they are nothing more than a resource that allows them to prolong their rotten existence

Nazis from Azovstal want to exchange hostages for food
05.05.2022 - 10:01
The Ukrainian militants, who had settled on Azovstal, offered to exchange the civilians there for food and medicines, a representative of the headquarters of the operation to liberate the enterprise told RIA Novosti.

"We have to maintain contacts with the Azov Nazis who are holed up there and representatives of the SBU in the interests of saving the civilians who remained there. During the negotiations, they offered us to exchange civilian hostages for food and medicine.

The indicated terms of the deal are 15 hostages per ton of products, as well as medicines.

They warned that they would not let anyone else go to Ukraine — now they will only exchange them," the agency interlocutor said.

Now, according to him, more than 200 civilians, including women, children and the elderly, can be in the catacombs of the combine.

The representative of the headquarters noted that the Russian military met with the same methods in Syria when they were negotiating with ISIS terrorists*. They also offered to exchange the released people for food and medicines by weight.

Russian troops and DPR forces surrounded Mariupol on March 7, on April 21 Shoigu reported that the city was completely liberated, but more than two thousand militants from the nationalist Azov battalion remain at the Azovstal plant (a criminal case was opened against its fighters in Russia). President Vladimir Putin ordered to cancel the assault on the industrial zone, but to block it "so that a fly does not fly by."

Nationalists are holding civilians at the plant, for which Russian troops are opening humanitarian corridors. Over a hundred people left Azovstal last weekend. At the same time, the Ukrainian side disrupted the silence regime, the units of the Russian army and the DPR had to suppress firing positions.
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1651733579

A little bit about the war
Corpses of militants in the school yard: a village near Slavyansk was cleared of Nazis (VIDEO 18+)
04.05.2022 - 11:55

The successful offensive of the allied forces of the Armed Forces of Russia and the Army of the DPR continues in the Slavyansk region of the DPR.

The press service of the People's Militia Department of the Republic of Belarus publishes fresh footage from the village of Novoselovka, cleared of Ukrainian Nazis.

Kiev militants, trying to hide behind civilian infrastructure, set up firing points at a local school. Such criminal tactics are used by the APU everywhere, but it does not help them to stop the advance of the liberators' troops.

Now the corpses of Ukrainian punishers lie in the immediate vicinity of the school building.
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1651648827

Here I ran into a problem. I wanted to give the prisoner's interview in text form, but the Google translator distorts the meaning of what was said so much that it is useless. A person speaks ordinary, vernacular Russian "using local idiomatic expression" (this is a quote from the famous in Russian film "The Diamond Hand"). Google gave up and my knowledge of English is only enough to substitute the highlighted word in the title corresponding to the meaning of what was said. In short, we with Google together couldn't cope.
""They KILL their own": Ukrainian prisoner told about the methods of conscription (VIDEO)
05.05.2022 - 9:15
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1651731303

Life-bearing projectiles: how the Ukrainian military are saved by captivity from destruction (VIDEO)
05.05.2022 - 8:17
It has long been no secret that the surrender of Ukrainian servicemen has acquired incredible proportions: so it was in the south of the DPR, so it is happening now in the northern direction.

At the disposal of the "Russian Spring" were the frames of the manufacture of leaflets and reactive propaganda shells, which are designed to carry life, not death.

Despite the development of information technology, the usual propaganda leaflets have not lost their relevance even now. The Russian military is distributing leaflets with appeals to Ukrainian soldiers with the help of special propaganda shells for MLRS.

This video was received by the "Russian Spring" from a military source, on it you can see the rolling of leaflets into the capsule, filling the capsule into the body of the projectile and firing such "information" from the MLRS installation.
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1651727869

Расчетливые твари. На днях с Азовстали вышли более 100 человек. Более 60 из них решили уехать на Украинскую территорию, это видимо и были члены семей нацистов. Теперь засевшие твари убедились, что их семьи куда то доехали и находятся в безопасности и начали торговаться оставшимися мирными. Они для нацистов не более чем ресурс, позволяющий продлить их поганое существование.
Тут я столкнулся с проблемой. Хотел привести интервью пленного в текстовом виде, но гугл переводчик настолько искажает смысл сказанного, что это бесполезно. Человек говорит на обыкновенном, простонародном русском языке "с использованием местных идиоматических выражений"(это цитата из известного в России фильма "Бриллиантовая рука"). Гугл сдался и моих познаний в английском хватает только на то, чтобы подставить выделенное слово в названии, соответствующее смыслу сказанного. Короче, мы вместе с гуглом не справились.
 
That's the thought that came to my mind and I have nothing to back it up.
If perhaps there will be a partition of Ukraine:
Russia takes - Crimea, Donbas, Transnistria
Poland - Lvov, Volhynia
Romania - Moldavia
Hungary - Transcarpathia.
Can it not be that for the masses the situation is presented as it is in the media all the time and somewhere on the level of secret services between these countries this division is already agreed?
So we are witnesses of a theater.
And things are already settled?
Also with Putin?

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U.S. Approves Of Beijing's Actions

The US seems to be complacent as China heeds its warnings about supporting Russia or pretends to heed. Two months...
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U.S. APPROVES OF BEIJING’S ACTIONS​

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The US seems to be complacent as China heeds its warnings about supporting Russia or pretends to heed. Two months after the start of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and fears that Beijing is ready to help Russia in its struggle, senior US officials reportedly claimed that they have not found any open Chinese military or economic assistance to Moscow, which is a welcome development in tense US-Chinese relations.
Anonymous U.S. officials have reportedly told Reuters that they remain wary of China’s support for Russia in general, but that the military and economic support they worried about has not materialized, at least for the moment.
“We have not seen the PRC provide direct military support to Russia or make a systematic effort to help Russia avoid our sanctions,” Reuters cited an official in the Biden administration. “We continue to monitor the PRC and any other country that might support Russia or otherwise evade U.S. and partner sanctions,” he added.
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In addition to avoiding direct support for Russia’s military efforts, China has avoided new contracts between some of its state-owned refining companies and Moscow, despite large discounts. In March, state-run Sinopec Group suspended talks on major petrochemical investments and a gas marketing venture in Russia.
U.S. Approves Of Beijing's Actions
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On the other hand, private Chinese refineries are buying Russian oil at a discount while state traders are afraid of sanctions. As a representative of one of the refineries in Shandong told the FT, since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, it has not publicly reported on deals with Russian suppliers in order not to attract attention and not fall under U.S. sanctions. At the same time, he said, the refinery took over some of the quotas for the purchase of Russian oil from state-owned traders.
Secretary of State Anthony Blinken told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that China was dealing with a “significant reputational risk” of being an ally of Russia and that “so far we see no significant support from China for Russia’s military actions.”
China has a very cunning and shrewd policy. Since the public sector cannot cooperate directly with Russia because of possible U.S. sanctions, China works through the private sector. Moreover, the influence of the public sector on the private one is very strong, and in fact, the public sector controls the private sector. Therefore, China buys Russian energy resources and avoids U.S. sanctions, which is a very thoughtful policy.
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Briefing Of Russian MoD On Morning Of May 5, 2022

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine. LINK During the night, high-precision air-launched...
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BRIEFING OF RUSSIAN MOD ON MORNING OF MAY 5, 2022​

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Briefing Of Russian MoD On Morning Of May 5, 2022
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The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine. LINK
During the night, high-precision air-launched missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed:
  • aviation equipment at the Kanatovo military airfield in the area of Kirovograd,
  • a large ammunition depot in the city of Nikolaev,
  • a fuel storage facility for Ukrainian military equipment in the Zhovtnevoye area of the Mykolaiv region,
  • the forward control post of the 17th separate tank brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,
  • four areas of concentration of manpower and military equipment,
  • two warehouses of military equipment at a military airfield near Kramatorsk were also hit.
The Russian Aerospace Forces hit 93 areas of concentration of manpower and Ukrainian military equipment during the night.
Missile forces hit two control points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, an artillery battery in a firing position, as well as two launchers and one transporter-loader vehicle of the Tochka-U tactical missile complex .
Artillery units hit 32 control points, five ammunition depots, 403 strongholds, areas of concentration of manpower and military equipment, as well as 51 positions of Ukrainian artillery. More than 600 nationalists and 61 units of weapons and military equipment were destroyed.
Russian air defense means shot down three aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Forces:
  • a Su-24 near the island of Zmeiny,
  • a Su-27 near the settlement of Ingulets in the Kherson region,
  • a Su-25 near the settlement of Koshevoye in the Dnipropetrovsk region.
14 Ukrainian UAVs were destroyed near the settlements of:
  • Verbovka, Great Kamyshevakha, Brazhkovka, Veseloye, Peremoga, Bolshie Prohody in the Kharkiv region,
  • Barvinok in the Kherson region,
  • Avdiivka, Dolya, Kamenka in the Donetsk People’s Republic,
  • Severodonetsk in the Luhansk People’s Republic,
  • including one Bayraktar-TB2 UAV in the area of the island of Zmeiny.
Two multiple rocket launchers of the Smerch multiple launch rocket system were intercepted near the villages of Tarasovka and Vasilevka.
In total, since the beginning of the Russian special military operation,
  • 149 aircraft,
  • 112 helicopters,
  • 726 unmanned aerial vehicles,
  • 288 anti-aircraft missile systems,
  • 2,834 tanks and other armored combat vehicles,
  • 325 multiple rocket launchers,
  • 1,306 field artillery and mortar guns,
  • 2,646 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.
Briefing Of Russian MoD On Morning Of May 5, 2022
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Statement of the Joint Coordination Headquarters of the Russian Federation for Humanitarian Response on May 4, 2022 (shortened) LINK
The Joint Coordination Headquarters of the Russian Federation for Humanitarian Response, in cooperation with the federal executive authorities, continues to record numerous facts of the inhumane attitude of the Kiev authorities towards civilians, as well as the use of social infrastructure facilities by Ukrainian armed formations for military purposes:
  • in Kramatorsk, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine placed military equipment, heavy weapons and equipped an ammunition depot in the schools No. 1, 3 and vocational school No. 39, while the evacuation of residents from nearby houses was not carried out;
  • in Kharkov, the AFU units placed D-30 howitzers and MLRS on the territory of an experimental cement and coke chemical plants in close proximity to densely populated residential areas. There are a large number of tanks with toxic technical liquids at these plants. If the tanks are destroyed, chemicals will be released into the atmosphere, followed by contamination of the air, terrain and water sources, which will lead to mass poisoning of people. The fighters, being aware that only civilians will become victims of their cynical actions, purposefully provoke the Russian Armed Forces to open the return fire in order to hold Russian servicemen responsible for possible victims among the local population.
We warn the so-called civilized West in advance that these and other similar provocations by the Ukrainian authorities about the alleged “Russian atrocities” are planned to be widely disseminated in the near future through Western media and on various Internet resources.
Numerous facts of illegal appropriation of humanitarian aid by officials of military administrations of various cities for its subsequent resale to the local population were recorded in the Zaporozhye region on the territory controlled by the Kiev regime. It is due to such actions of the Kiev regime that international organizations are considering stopping the delivery of humanitarian aid to Ukraine, as the Romanian representatives in the International Committee of the Red Cross in the Odessa region did earlier, where massive theft of humanitarian aid vital to civilians was also recorded.
Despite all the difficulties and obstacles created by Kiev, over the past day, without the participation of the Ukrainian authorities, 10,617 people, including 1,421 children, were evacuated from dangerous areas of the Donetsk, Lugansk People’s Republics and Ukraine to the territory of the Russian Federation. Since the start of the special military operation, a total of 1,114,318 people, including 199,348 children were evacuated. The state border of the Russian Federation was crossed by 144,759 units of personal vehicles, including 1,786 over the past day.
75 foreign vessels from 17 states remain blocked in seven ports (Kherson, Nikolaev, Chernomorsk, Ochakov, Odessa, Yuzhny and Mariupol). The threat of shelling and high mine danger created by official Kiev in its internal waters and territorial sea do not allow vessels to freely enter the open sea. Every day from 08:00 to 19:00 (Moscow time), the Russian Armed Forces open a humanitarian corridor, which is a safe lane for ships moving in a south-westerly direction from the territorial sea of Ukraine with a length of 80 and a width of 3 nautical miles. Detailed information on the functioning of the maritime humanitarian corridor is transmitted daily every 15 minutes via VHF radio on 14 and 16 international channels in English and Russian. The Kiev authorities, as before, evade from interaction with representatives of foreign states and ship-owning companies in resolving the issue of ensuring the safe exit of blocked vessels to the collection area. At the same time, there remains a danger to navigation and damage to the port infrastructure from the drift of Ukrainian mines torn from their anchors along the coast of the Black Sea states.
The Russian Federation is taking a full range of comprehensive measures to ensure the safety of civil navigation in the waters of the Black and Azov Seas.
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ziutek said:
That's the thought that came to my mind and I have nothing to back it up.
If perhaps there will be a partition of Ukraine:
Russia takes - Crimea, Donbas, Transnistria
Poland - Lvov, Volhynia
Romania - Moldavia
Hungary - Transcarpathia.
Can it not be that for the masses the situation is presented as it is in the media all the time and somewhere on the level of secret services between these countries this division is already agreed?
So we are witnesses of a theater.
And things are already settled?
Also with Putin?
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Dear ziutek, I hasten to reassure you (this word can be taken in quotation marks) and at the same time to make reasoned amendments to your scheme.

The first sedative (it's probably the only one) this is the fact that attempts to negotiate are always present in one form or another.

Further, it should be taken into account that the main participants in these events cannot afford to lose. In your scheme, by the way, one of the most important participants is missing -this is the United States. And so, neither Russia nor the United States, namely they are the main participants, can afford to lose. Russia's loss will be an almost immediate collapse for it. The loss of the USA will also be a 100% collapse, only perhaps a little stretched in time. In other words, the result of the Ukrainian events should look like an undoubted victory, which is impossible under any circumstances for both main participants at the same time, so they will fight until an indisputable result is obtained.

Your scheme states that those who will divide Ukraine take some territories along the edges, and although this is not indicated, it is assumed that a certain Ukraine will remain in the middle. Again, I will reassure you - this is impossible. For Russia, leaving any, the smallest piece in the form of a territory independent of itself will no longer be the desired indisputable victory, but will only be a postponement of a future final decision, possibly under worse conditions, which is also unacceptable. Thus, Ukraine in its current form will cease to exist if Russia wins.

I do not want to consider the option when Russia does not win for the reason indicated above. In short, it will be the collapse of Russia and the establishment of a monopolar world around the world.

I do not know whether Poland will control western Ukraine, Hungary - Transcarpathia and Romania - Bessarabia. This is possible, but only if the main condition is met - the main participants achieve their goals. Now, by the way, Poland is taking a pretty big risk, in my opinion. An attempt to enter Ukraine in the current circumstances will be suppressed uncompromisingly, again for the above reason.

All these theses can be developed a lot, but in short something like that.

Уважаемый, ziutek, я спешу вас успокоить (это слово можно взять в кавычки) и заодно аргументировано внести поправки в вашу схему.
Первое успокоительное (оно же наверное единственное) это то, что попытки договориться присутствуют всегда в том или ином виде.
Далее следует учесть, что основные участники этих событий не могут себе позволить проиграть. В вашей схеме, кстати, отсутствует один из важнейших участников-это США. И так, ни Россия ни США, а именно они и являются главными участниками, не могут себе позволить проиграть. Проигрыш России будет для нее почти немедленным крахом. Проигрыш США тоже будет 100% крахом, только возможно немного растянутым во времени. Другими словами результат украинских событий должен выглядеть несомненной победой, что одновременно невозможно ни при каких условиях для обоих основных участников, поэтому биться будут до получения неоспариваимого результата.
В вашей схеме указано, что те кто будут делить Украину забирают некие территории по краям и хоть это и не обозначено, но предполагается, что в середине останется некая Украина. Опять же успокою вас - это невозможно. Для России оставление любого, самого маленького кусочка в виде независящей от себя территории уже не будет искомой неоспариваимой победой, а будет только отсрочкой будущего окончательного решения, возможно в худших условиях, что тоже неприемлемо. Таким образом Украина в нынешнем виде прекратит существование, если Россия победит.
Вариант когда Россия не победит я рассматривать не хочу по причине, указанной выше. Вкратце- это будет крах России и утверждение монополярного мира во всем мире.
Будет ли Польша контролировать западную Украину, Венгрия- Закарпатье а Румыния- Бессарабию я не знаю. Это возможно, но только при соблюдении главного условия- достижения основными участниками своих целей. Сейчас, кстати, Польша довольно сильно рискует, по моему. Попытка зайти на Украину в текущих обстоятельствах будет подавлена бескомпромиссно опять же по вышеизложенной причине.
Все эти тезисы можно развивать очень много, но вкратце как то так.
 
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