Niacin for Cardio Care and Detox

[GRiM]

I started taking niacin recently. The only tablets I could find were 500 mg, and I hadn't read this thread and didn't know anything about the niacin flush.

You can imagine the type of flush I had when I took ten times the recommended amount! It lasted over four hours. My face was red, my hands were red, I was itching all over.

Now I split the tablets in half and take 250 mg once a day. That seems to give me a normal niacin flush.

Thats the dosage I am taking. I can only imagine what the double amount would feel like. I did drink a liter (0.26gallon) of water when it started to burn and itch, after just a few minutes I only felt a nice warm sensation in my skin.

Thanks everyone for all the great articles/papers :)

 

[dantem]

6) Take quinine sulfate, iron sulfate and zinc sulfate. I worked up to 1,000 mg of quinine sulfate a day, which I divided into spaced intervals. Quinine has a unique branched carbon structure that is beneficial in detoxifying benzene.

From Meg's post I'm reading about this 'quinine' I've never heard of. I may suffer from a mild form of arthritis, having my joints cracking a bit sometimes whenever I stretch my arms and legs. This is probably due to gluten , difficult to remove completely from my diet when it comes for traditional meals here, but as far as I'm reducing it from my diet I'm feeling real bad any time I eat any pastries, perhaps noticing the counter effects more and more...

Anyway here's the 'quinine' entry from wikipedia:

Quinine (IPA: /ˈkwaɪnaɪn, kwɪˈniːn, ˈkwiːniːn/) is a natural white crystalline alkaloid having antipyretic (fever-reducing), antimalarial, analgesic (painkilling), and anti-inflammatory properties and a bitter taste. It is a stereoisomer of quinidine.

Quinine was the first effective treatment for malaria caused by Plasmodium falciparum, appearing in therapeutics in the 17th century. It remained the antimalarial drug of choice until the 1940s, when other drugs took over. Since then, many effective antimalarials have been introduced, although quinine is still used to treat the disease in certain critical situations. Quinine is available with a prescription in the United States. Quinine is also used to treat nocturnal leg cramps and arthritis, and there have been attempts (with limited success) to treat prion diseases. It was once a popular heroin adulterant.

It was first brought to Europe by Jesuits and it was also used to cure King Louis XIV.

And here's the most common adverse events assocated with quirine overdose:

_http://www.quinine.com/cinchonism

I've tried niacin also recently, I've got this Xanthinol nicotinate 150 mg capsules from supersmart.com. Seems to be the 'right' form of vitamin b3 we're talking about, not niacinamide, unless others note otherwise. In this form the niacine is soluble in water, so I'll just open the capsule and pour it all on a glass of water. It's bitter! 150mg is enough for a 10-15 minute flush, just eating some fruits to not leave the stomach empty.

Tried also the niacinamide-no flush, insoluble, sold in capsules with chromium and vitamin c. Both seems to lessen the joints stress a bit.

 

[Pierre]

It was first brought to Europe by Jesuits and it was also used to cure King Louis XIV.

And here's the most common adverse events assocated with quirine overdose:

_http://www.quinine.com/cinchonism

I've tried niacin also recently, I've got this Xanthinol nicotinate 150 mg capsules from supersmart.com. Seems to be the 'right' form of vitamin b3 we're talking about, not niacinamide, unless others note otherwise. In this form the niacine is soluble in water, so I'll just open the capsule and pour it all on a glass of water. It's bitter! 150mg is enough for a 10-15 minute flush, just eating some fruits to not leave the stomach empty.

Tried also the niacinamide-no flush, insoluble, sold in capsules with chromium and vitamin c. Both seems to lessen the joints stress a bit.

For information some foods and bewerages contain some quinine.

Schweppes started producing tonic in the 1870s. It was soon popular with the British in India, as it contains quinine, which was used as a preventative measure against malaria.

The amount of quinine in today's Schweppes Tonic is too small to have any medicinal effect, but it is still highly regarded throughout Europe for its unique taste and style.

 

[dantem]

Hmm, where can I get some French Green Clay? Is it better to get the powder or the capsules?

Found a site with some info about the French Clay both for internal and external use. Seems rather cheap!

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/greenclay.htm

Orders page:

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/acatalog/Products_Green_Clay_5.html

 

[Alana]

Hmm, where can I get some French Green Clay? Is it better to get the powder or the capsules?

Found a site with some info about the French Clay both for internal and external use. Seems rather cheap!

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/greenclay.htm

Orders page:

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/acatalog/Products_Green_Clay_5.html

Thanks dantem for the website info. It looks interesting clay to try on skin or inside the body. Perhaps we could stock up on this clay, for when times get more difficult ;)

 

[1984]

I've tried niacin also recently, I've got this Xanthinol nicotinate 150 mg capsules from supersmart.com. Seems to be the 'right' form of vitamin b3 we're talking about, not niacinamide, unless others note otherwise. In this form the niacine is soluble in water, so I'll just open the capsule and pour it all on a glass of water. It's bitter! 150mg is enough for a 10-15 minute flush, just eating some fruits to not leave the stomach empty.

Tried also the niacinamide-no flush, insoluble, sold in capsules with chromium and vitamin c. Both seems to lessen the joints stress a bit.

Just an FYI: If you do try Niacinamide, bear in mind that although it does help reduce the flush, niacinamide doesn’t reduce cholesterol levels. It does retain many unique functional benefits. It’s required for hundreds of enzymatic reactions in the body and is vital nutritional support for those with osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, asthma, heart disease, stress and stroke.

 

[EdgeofDawn]

Hmm, where can I get some French Green Clay? Is it better to get the powder or the capsules?

Found a site with some info about the French Clay both for internal and external use. Seems rather cheap!

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/greenclay.htm

Orders page:

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/acatalog/Products_Green_Clay_5.html

Hmm, yeah I've seen that site but it is in the UK and a bit expensive when you factor in shipping to the US. This site I found has it in capsule form. _http://www.janethull.com Oh, and what brand is everyone using for niacin and where are you getting it? I stopped by my local CVS pharmacy and every brand was either time release or no flush.

 

[Meg]

Hmm, where can I get some French Green Clay? Is it better to get the powder or the capsules?

Found a site with some info about the French Clay both for internal and external use. Seems rather cheap!

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/greenclay.htm

Orders page:

_http://www.scent-by-nature.co.uk/acatalog/Products_Green_Clay_5.html

Hmm, yeah I've seen that site but it is in the UK and a bit expensive when you factor in shipping to the US. This site I found has it in capsule form. _http://www.janethull.com Oh, and what brand is everyone using for niacin and where are you getting it? I stopped by my local CVS pharmacy and every brand was either time release or no flush.

Country Life has a 100 mg Niacin tablet with no bells or whistles. Do you have a Sun Harvest or Whole Foods in your area?

I haven't searched their entire site, but they have a variety of clays.
http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/about/about.html ... (in Eugene OR, how strange :P)

 

[EdgeofDawn]

Not in my area but there is a Whole Foods near where I work. I'll stop by there on Monday. Thanks for the info and the link!

 

[1984]

I'm in the US and shop online for just about everything I use at Vitamin Research Products( www.vrp.com). They do ship out of the US, but on some products (like melatonin) they restrict the shipping destinations.

I don't want to sound like I am advertising but they've been around for a long time, have quality products, research is done onsite (the doctors that started the company were part of the original Life Extension group) and they do run specials so you can stock up.

 

[D69]

To all those who are having difficulties to get Niacin in eastern European countries.
Try asking for Vitamin PP.
Niacin and Vit B3 cannot be found in shops and stores according to my small research , but if you ask for Vitamin PP things look different.
It is basically the same chemical but under different name

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin

 

[D69]

I am terribly sorry , I was so disappointed when i finally got my Vit PP.
Someone told me that it is nicotine acid by stupid spelling mistake and i ordered 2 packs
It is Nicotine Amide
Its not nicotine acid ! therefor it does not cause red flush effect :(
I am sincerely sorry