Mother Teresa Was No Saint

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Interesting article on the real history of Mother Teresa. Was she a psychopath?

http://guardianlv.com/2013/10/mother-teresa-was-no-saint-says-study/

From story:

"the study authors say, she was a cruel woman who believed that there was glory in the suffering of the sick. She made people with grave illnesses sicker by denying them medication and forcing them to writhe in pain while she squirreled away “enormous sums of money” that could have been used to help them."

"The study authors claim that Mother Teresa successfully orchestrated a deceitful media campaign for herself that painted her in a light altogether different from the woman she really was, and that she manipulated public opinion to reflect her deeds as altruistic when they were seemingly sadistic."
 
There's already a couple of articles on this topic published on SOTT.net

http://www.sott.net/article/263693-Debunking-another-contemporary-myth-New-expose-of-Mother-Teresa-shows-that-she-and-the-Vatican-were-even-worse-than-we-thought

http://www.sott.net/article/259019-Mother-Teresa-Anything-but-a-saint

http://www.sott.net/article/259452-Mother-Teresa-Sadistic-religious-fanatic-guilty-of-medical-malpractice < I love the title of this one
 
Yup. Michael Parenti writes about her in his book, "God and his Demons" which is a devastating critique of mainstream cults and their leaders. I highly recommend it to everyone.
 
I never liked this woman. She looked dirty, in a symbolic way. I did not cry when she died, even if around me people was very sad. Then I read about her, I think maybe she was crazy? I read also that when she was sick she went to be cured in European hospitals. Again we can see how people are manipulated and brain washed. And even if you give facts about this woman, people will continue to believe she is a saint. Her words about Love were just that: words.
 
I feel in my bones that Mother Teresa was a wrong 'un. STS top brass would never allow a genuine STO symbol to last in 3d so long unless they were getting something out of it - the abuse and suffering of those those in her 'care'

No, they would have killed her, like they did Princess Diana at the same time as MT died.

Hmm. Thinking about that I wonder if there was significance in the timing of Diana's death alongside MT's.

There must have been.
 
Tomek said:
There's already a couple of articles on this topic published on SOTT.net

http://www.sott.net/article/263693-Debunking-another-contemporary-myth-New-expose-of-Mother-Teresa-shows-that-she-and-the-Vatican-were-even-worse-than-we-thought

http://www.sott.net/article/259019-Mother-Teresa-Anything-but-a-saint

http://www.sott.net/article/259452-Mother-Teresa-Sadistic-religious-fanatic-guilty-of-medical-malpractice < I love the title of this one

See also this post and the following:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,13445.msg109756.html#msg109756
 
Ian said:
Interesting article on the real history of Mother Teresa. Was she a psychopath?

http://guardianlv.com/2013/10/mother-teresa-was-no-saint-says-study/

From story:

"the study authors say, she was a cruel woman who believed that there was glory in the suffering of the sick. She made people with grave illnesses sicker by denying them medication and forcing them to writhe in pain while she squirreled away “enormous sums of money” that could have been used to help them."

"The study authors claim that Mother Teresa successfully orchestrated a deceitful media campaign for herself that painted her in a light altogether different from the woman she really was, and that she manipulated public opinion to reflect her deeds as altruistic when they were seemingly sadistic."

I don't know if she was a psychopath, but it was plain enough to me that she wasn't an altruist. The self-interests of a genuine altruist are so tightly interwoven with the interests of others, that such a person doesn't even need to think about self in order to behave in all the various ways that benefit others. Metaphorically speaking, when you help someone clean up all the junk in their yard, doesn't Your property value improve along with the rest of the neighborhood's?

Otherwise, a person is just being a self-other hater; their behaviors anti-self-interest, or just anti-self, and that is sooo not the same thing as altruism because if you don't respect and value yourself in some rational way, where can a valuing of others come from?

Just my thoughts.
 
Interesting. I would have never thought about it if it weren't from these articles.

My grand-mother was a very religious person and met her in the past a few times so of course, she (Theresa) was always presented to me as being a saint.

Oh well.
 
JayMark said:
Interesting. I would have never thought about it if it weren't from these articles.

My grand-mother was a very religious person and met her in the past a few times so of course, she (Theresa) was always presented to me as being a saint.

Oh well.

In that case, I'm pleased to introduce the idea of "pre-framing" unless you're already familiar with the idea but just haven't explored a lot of the implications.


Manipulations of Emotional Context Shape Moral Judgment
_http://www.socialemotions.org/page5/files/Valdesolo.DeSteno.2006.pdf
_http://intl-pss.sagepub.com/content/17/6/476.full


How Can Studying Psychopaths Help Us Understand the Neural Mechanisms of Moral Judgment?
_http://bama.ua.edu/~alglenn1/docs/Glenn_CellScience_2010.pdf


Reflection and Reasoning in Moral Judgment
_http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~jgreene/GreeneWJH/Paxton-Ungar-Greene-MoralReasoning-CogSci11.pdf


The Influence of Irrelevant Emotions on Moral Judgments
_http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2006/09/16/the-influence-of-irrelevant-em/
 
This was a surprise revelation for me too! But really, it just fits with general climate of this planet. I did a quick Internet search following the last post and the ways some of the miracles attributed to other saints are presented reminds me VERY much of "the lady" mentioned in the wave. creepy... I was also trying to find info on a women saint from the past who would levitate in ecstasy it was said. What always made me wonder and bothered me about it was that her villagers would try and poke needles in her feet while she was floating. Something is very wrong about that. I remember coming across this story on the history channel a long time ago and have since forgotten her name. I tried to find the story on the Internet but came up empty handed. Now that I know more about hyper-dimensional realities her story is even more suspect. Has anyone heard of a young women saint that would levitate in ecstasy and have people hurt her while she was doing it???
 
Christopher Hitchens made a documentary on MT, it's call Mother Teresa-Hell's Angle...it can still be found on U-tube.

Mod note: Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JxnUW7Wk4
 
Buddy said:
JayMark said:
Interesting. I would have never thought about it if it weren't from these articles.

My grand-mother was a very religious person and met her in the past a few times so of course, she (Theresa) was always presented to me as being a saint.

Oh well.

In that case, I'm pleased to introduce the idea of "pre-framing" unless you're already familiar with the idea but just haven't explored a lot of the implications.


Manipulations of Emotional Context Shape Moral Judgment
_http://www.socialemotions.org/page5/files/Valdesolo.DeSteno.2006.pdf
_http://intl-pss.sagepub.com/content/17/6/476.full


How Can Studying Psychopaths Help Us Understand the Neural Mechanisms of Moral Judgment?
_http://bama.ua.edu/~alglenn1/docs/Glenn_CellScience_2010.pdf


Reflection and Reasoning in Moral Judgment
_http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~jgreene/GreeneWJH/Paxton-Ungar-Greene-MoralReasoning-CogSci11.pdf


The Influence of Irrelevant Emotions on Moral Judgments
_http://scienceblogs.com/mixingmemory/2006/09/16/the-influence-of-irrelevant-em/

Why, thank you sir!
 
Another link in the chain, saying the same thing, she was no saint... at least not in terms of compassion, but yes in terms of her support for the status quo: http://www.salon.com/2016/01/03/the_wests_big_lie_about_mother_teresa_her_glorification_of_suffering_instead_of_relieving_it_has_had_little_impact_on_her_glowing_reputation/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_876895

salon.com
The West’s big lie about Mother Teresa: Her “glorification of suffering instead of relieving it” has had little impact on her glowing reputation

George Gillett

Reused needles, poorly trained staff and expired medications. The picture Hemley Gonzalez describes to me is not one often associated with adjectives such as “saintly” in the medical profession. Yet as he discusses his experience volunteering at facilities run by Missionaries of Charity, the organization Mother Teresa founded, it becomes increasingly apparent that few of his anecdotes correlate with the reputation she enjoys. “I was shocked to discover the horrifically negligent manner in which the charity operates,” he recalls.

His story is not atypical. Writing in the New Internationalist magazine about her experience working at Missionaries of Charity’s headquarters in Kolkata, another volunteer urged that the organization be “finally held accountable for its actions of abuse and neglect.” Similar concerns were raised in a 1994 UK documentary that featured the story of a 15-year-old patient who had been admitted with a “relatively simple kidney complaint.” His condition had deteriorated soon after the facility had refused to transfer him to a local hospital to undergo surgery.

Criticism of Mother Teresa’s mission has also come from the medical profession. Dr. Robin Fox, former editor of the medical journal the Lancet, described the Missionaries of Charity facilities as “haphazard” as early as 1994, recounting how he witnessed a young man with malaria be treated with only ineffective antibiotics and paracetamol. “Along with the neglect of diagnosis, the lack of good analgesia marks Mother Theresa’s approach,” he wrote in an article for the journal.

Today, Gonzalez runs an online campaign called Stop Missionaries of Charity. He hopes to “educate unsuspecting donors” about how their donations are spent on what he regards to be “a systematic human rights violation.” Aroup Chatterjee shares similar feelings. Born in Kolkata and now a doctor in the UK, he was inspired to write a book about Teresa’s legacy. It describes detailed accounts of her patients being denied visitors, refused painkillers and forced to shave their heads. “If people knew what she was actually like, they would find her repugnant,” he tells me, clearly frustrated by the manner in which the media have reported news that she is to be canonized this year.

These claims are in such contradiction with the Western narrative of Mother Teresa – a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize as well as a number of other accolades – that it’s hard to respond to them with anything other than disbelief. Having received hundreds of millions of dollars in donations, there are seemingly few excuses for such poor medical care aside from either recklessness or malicious intent. Yet either of these accusations would be met with fervent denial from even the staunchest of secularists. How, then, has somebody with such a troubled legacy enjoyed almost universal adoration from the world’s media?

Much of the reason is undoubtedly related to the fact that Mother Teresa’s order does not perceive these examples to be failings. Speaking in 1997, she remarked that “the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people,” describing how it was “very beautiful for the poor to share [their suffering] with the passion of Christ.” For Mother Teresa, poverty and sickness were gifts that provided the opportunity to develop one’s connection with God. Her mission was not so much to alleviate suffering but to ensure it happened within a framework of religious belief. Indeed, by her own admission she was motivated by a desire to fulfill her own religious convictions rather than altruistic concern for the world’s poor. “There is always the danger that we may become only social workers … our works are only an expression of our love for Christ,” she told a BBC journalist in 1969. This attitude is manifestly disparate from the utilitarian principles by which humanitarian efforts are ordinarily judged.

Yet this reality, of Mother Teresa as a missionary first and an altruist second, is not the image that has taken precedence in the West. She won the Nobel Prize not for her religious convictions but “for work undertaken in the struggle to overcome poverty.” Reports from volunteers, journalistic investigations and academic research that decries her “glorification of suffering instead of relieving it” has had little impact on her glowing reputation. This remains as true within secular communities as religious ones, with pollsters consistently reporting that Americans consider her one of the most admired figures of the 20th century.

The extent to which Mother Teresa is considered a humanitarian hero is a significant victory for the Catholic Church, which coordinated a high-profile campaign to have her “fast-tracked” to sainthood. However, in many ways it is no surprise that she remains so popular among Westerners. She presented a narrative – that of a European nun going to help the world’s poor – that acted to both resolve the internal guilt of wealthy churchgoers while also presenting their religion as a relevant, modern force for good. Meanwhile, her conceptualization of suffering as a positive experience provided rebuttal to those who criticized the West’s repeated failings to inspire tangible action on global inequality.

Speaking on world tours, her fatalistic attitude toward poverty, combined with an insistence on remaining “apolitical,” defined her disinterest in confronting the structural causes of destitution. She presented to the West a perfect role model: a do-gooder who didn’t threaten to challenge the status-quo. In the words of Kolkata-born journalist Mihir Bose, “She’s part of the western agenda, it makes the West feel better; ‘this is one of us, once again rescuing the third world.’”

The rebranding of Mother Teresa’s religious mission as a humanitarian effort was also convenient financially. Despite comprehensive accounts never having been published, researchers estimate that Missionaries of Charity was receiving up to C$100 (USD$72) million in annual donations by the end of Mother Teresa’s life. A 1991 investigation by the German news magazine Stern found that only 7 per cent of this money was being used for charitable activity.

The money that was spent was spread incredibly thinly – across 610 missions in 123 countries – a sign that the quality of care was severely compromised by Mother Teresa’s desire to disseminate her religious agenda as widely as possible. Reports that nuns were taught to conduct “secret baptisms” on Hindu and Muslim patients only further suggest that her order’s interventions were at times actively detrimental as well as being a distraction from genuine humanitarian efforts.

In pioneering Missionaries of Charity, Mother Teresa adopted the role of a medical provider. As any doctor or nurse will testify, this role imparts certain responsibilities: to act only within your capabilities, to respect a patient’s best interests and to not impose your personal, religious or political beliefs on patient care. On all of these counts, Mother Teresa failed. Judged by any metric of medical standards, it is difficult to remember her legacy as anything other than an inefficient, sanctimonious and wholly ideological franchise.

Teresa of Kolkata should by all means be remembered as an extremely successful evangelist. But to claim she is a champion of altruism, medicine or humanitarianism would be to fundamentally misunderstand her mission.
 
gdpetti said:
Another link in the chain, saying the same thing, she was no saint... at least not in terms of compassion, but yes in terms of her support for the status quo: http://www.salon.com/2016/01/03/the_wests_big_lie_about_mother_teresa_her_glorification_of_suffering_instead_of_relieving_it_has_had_little_impact_on_her_glowing_reputation/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_876895

salon.com
The West’s big lie about Mother Teresa: Her “glorification of suffering instead of relieving it” has had little impact on her glowing reputation

George Gillett
These claims are in such contradiction with the Western narrative of Mother Teresa – a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize as well as a number of other accolades – that it’s hard to respond to them with anything other than disbelief. Having received hundreds of millions of dollars in donations, there are seemingly few excuses for such poor medical care aside from either recklessness or malicious intent. Yet either of these accusations would be met with fervent denial from even the staunchest of secularists. How, then, has somebody with such a troubled legacy enjoyed almost universal adoration from the world’s media?
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Thanks for posting gdpetti. Even though we shouldn't be surprised that yet another person acclaimed by the western media turns out to have motives inconsistent with their projected image, mother Teresa is surely yet another to add to the list. Even though i have seen the Hitchins documentary, read many of the articles, it's still a good reminder of just how distorted the general consensus is, and it bears repeating.
 
Mother Theresa was involved in the creation of 30 orphanages in India. Meanwhile she was strongly preaching against abortion and contraception.

The conjunction of 'pro life' activism, orphanage activity and India reminded of this session:

session 16/7/94 said:
Q: (L) Are the aliens using our emotions and energies?
A: Correct; and bodies too. Each earth year 10 % more children are taken.
Q: (L) Do they suffer?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Do they all suffer?
A: Some. Bits of children's organs removed while they are wide awake. Kidneys first; then next feet; next jaw examined on table;
tongues cut off; bones stress tested; pressure placed on heart muscle until it bursts.
Q: (L) Why are you telling us this awful stuff?
A: You must know what the consortium is doing. This is done mostly to Indian children
 
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