Moon Landings: Did They Happen or Not?

And on top of that, if we presume that the photo (or some, maybe even all of them) is fake, it doesn’t automatically follow that the trip to the moon didn’t happen. It may just have happened differently - by different means, different equipment etc. Maybe they didn’t want to show the real hardware they used, etc …
Exactly. The Moon-photo material probably was totally unusable, because they showed alien craft, ruins and bodies. Therefore those photos needed heavy editing via photoshop, etc... That might be why the AI marked them as fake. Same reason, why a Hollywood studio had to be used to make a fake film: to create a heroic movie material to prove the world, how neat and clever NASA was, what a great job they made with the taxpayers money.
 
I had similar thoughts that the moon landing indeed happened, but perhaps the astronauts arrived there by means that had to do with alien technology. Or something similar. And the inconsistencies had to do with the fact that some other means were used.

Perhaps "there was no moon landing" is a red herring. Similar to all kind of conspiracies in Russia that Soviets also didn't have a space program as described. Entire articles or books were written about "problems" with various earlier missions. There is no doubt that there were problems and much more failures than advertised. So it's quite possible that NASA couldn't put the man on the Moon unaided.

But all the "no moon landing" people are concentrating on the doubts if the landing happened at all, and these are also the questions that the C's were asked about. But there is another factor that has to be considered.

US had a "treaty" with aliens in the early 70's. But I wonder when collecting and reverse engineering of alien technology started? Did they have access to it already in the late 60's? Or maybe it's not thanks to an alien technology, but knowledge supplied by aliens? Or knowledge obtained from aliens?

There is the following excerpt. If we consider it and what it means, then going to the Moon isn't that spectacular. Especially if we take into account the underground civilization that retained advanced knowledge during all this time. Just some thoughts. Heck, who knows, if indeed there will be a "reveal" of the underground civilization and presenting them as saviors, maybe they will take credit for the moon landing. :-D

There are also some questionable transcripts, allegedly between Aldrin and Armstrong, that put out the idea that maybe they saw something alien out there:

Space is not what we see at night or what NASA has shown us for years. In the midst of stars, planets, and other celestial bodies, there are much more vivid, bizarre, and strange things hidden from our eyes. There are several astronauts who strongly believe in the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations including Gordon Cooper, Buzz Aldrin, and Story Musgrave.

Many conspiracy theorists believe that NASA knew that Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong had an encounter with aliens, that is why they erased 40 rolls of film from the Apollo 11 mission. It was claimed by Bob Dean, a United States Army Command Sergeant Major.

Story Musgrave



The crew Of Sts-80, Seated (From Left-to-right) Kent V. Rominger, Pilot; Kenneth D. Cockrell, Commander. Standing (Left To Right) Mission Specialists Tamara E. Jernigan, F. Story Musgrave, And Thomas D. Jones. Photo Credit: Nasa


According to a report shared by Gaia, there is a transcript between Aldrin and Armstrong where the two had witnessed extraterrestrial activities on Moon during the Apollo 11 mission.

Apollo 11: “Those are giant things. No, no, no, this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this.”

NASA: “What… what…. what? What the hell is happening What’s wrong with you?”

Apollo 11: “They’re here, under the surface.”

More from Gaia:
Apollo 11: “Those are giant things. No, no, no, this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this.”

NASA: “What… what…. what? What the hell is happening?” “What’s wrong with you?”

Apollo 11: “They’re here, under the surface.”

NASA: “What’s there? (muffled noise) Emission interrupted; interference control calling Apollo 11.”

Apollo 11: “We saw some visitors. They were here for a while, observing the instruments.”

NASA: “Repeat your last information.”

Apollo 11: “I say that there were other spaceships. They’re lined up in the other side of the crater.”

Apollo 11: “Let us sound this orbita… in 625 to 5… automatic relay connected… my hands are shaking so badly I can’t do anything. Film it? God if these damned cameras have picked up anything – what then?”

NASA: “Have you picked up anything?”

Apollo 11: “I didn’t have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers, or whatever they were that were ruining the film.”

NASA: “Control, control here. Are you on your way? What is the uproar with the UFOs over?

Apollo 11: “They’ve landed there. There they are and they’re watching us.

NASA: “The mirrors, the mirrors – have you set them up?”

Apollo 11: “Yes, they’re in the right place. But whoever made those spaceships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.”

I don't know what to make of it in terms of veracity, but it points again the possibility that the Apollo moon landing did involve some kind of overt hyperdimensional activity... not in terms of assistance in getting there, but in terms of showing up and getting a cosmic surprise!
 
There are also some questionable transcripts, allegedly between Aldrin and Armstrong, that put out the idea that maybe they saw something alien out there:



More from Gaia:


I don't know what to make of it in terms of veracity, but it points again the possibility that the Apollo moon landing did involve some kind of overt hyperdimensional activity... not in terms of assistance in getting there, but in terms of showing up and getting a cosmic surprise!
That piece of Apollo 11 communication transcript doesn't appear in the Nasa version of the Apollo 11 transcript, which can be found here: https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11_TEC.PDF

Use CTRL + F to search for the word "giant" for instance.
 
In one of the Russian Internal Predictor series of books the collective of authors wrote about the Armstrong & crew Moon landing. According to them it was real, however the footage that we have all seen was made by Stanley Kubrick in Hollywood studios just in case something went wrong so the propaganda could spin it as success no matter what. The story has it that as a "payback, Stanley Kubrick got the funds for the Space Odyssey 2001 movie.
 
US had a "treaty" with aliens in the early 70's. But I wonder when collecting and reverse engineering of alien technology started? Did they have access to it already in the late 60's? Or maybe it's not thanks to an alien technology, but knowledge supplied by aliens? Or knowledge obtained from aliens?
I've read Christopher Knowles' blog The Secret Sun, quite extensively. He did a series on this topic few years ago, which he called Lucifer's Technologies, where he theorised, IIRC, that the "Roswell incident" was the first of many technological gifts from someone/something Luciferian, and a result of megaritual, in which Jack Parsons partook, among others.
He mentions the very short evolution of the transistor, as an example, which appeared sort of out of nowhere.
His first post in the series is here: Lucifer's Technologies: Our Deal with the Devil Comes Due
 
In one of the Russian Internal Predictor series of books the collective of authors wrote about the Armstrong & crew Moon landing. According to them it was real, however the footage that we have all seen was made by Stanley Kubrick in Hollywood studios just in case something went wrong so the propaganda could spin it as success no matter what. The story has it that as a "payback, Stanley Kubrick got the funds for the Space Odyssey 2001 movie.
If I had to bet I would point to that scenario, or something similar.

For me it is logical.
 
According to this video from the "History Channel"
There were 2min of missing transmission that were intercepted by amateur radio operators. Apparently they describe large spacecraft observing the mission. I can understand that there were no means to record these missing transmissions (no audio k7 back then) but I wonder how they knew how to switch to the "medical channel" or if they were monitoring all channels at once, etc.
In any case, interesting if true.
 
Not related to the moon landing directly, but our celebrity remote viewers did a session regarding some target on the dark side of the moon, and it seems that a lot is going on there:

There's also an interesting presentation that I've stumbled upon recently, that speculates about negatives being airbrushed by NASA. Maybe that's why somehow AI was able to flag some weirdness on those? Digital photo editing techniques are very hard to do in an undetectable way, but negatives?

From that presentation there's a short clip of a whistleblower (supposedly from 2001):

I've also started reading George Leonard's "Somebody Else Is On The Moon" book. Ingo Swann even mentioned in his "Penetration" book, that Leonard caused quite a stir within the intelligence community with his questions about the moon. I'll get back to you when I read the whole, but it looks like they have chosen a historically uninteresting location for a moon landing. Was that on purpose?
 
Also, there is a simple possibility that the moon landings pretty much happened as it was stated, but that they choose, in a typical American/Hollywood fashion, to spice it up by making some nice and good selling photos on earth in studios before and/or after the fact.
I hadn’t considered that before, but sounds pretty plausible- in fact very much in keeping with America does it best ideology. I rather like this perspective. Could be way off.
At any rate I think we have way more pressing issues to consider right now.
 
It looks like the great endeavor has gone tacky commercial

The first US lunar lander in more than 50 years rocketed toward the moon Monday, launching private companies on a space race to make deliveries for NASA and other customers.

Astrobotic Technology’s lander caught a ride on a brand new rocket, United Launch Alliance’s Vulcan.

The Vulcan streaked through the Florida predawn sky, putting the spacecraft on a roundabout route to the moon that should culminate with an attempted landing on Feb. 23.
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Besides flying experiments for NASA, Astrobotic drummed up its own freight business, packing the 6-foot-tall (1.9-meter-tall) Peregrine lander with everything from a chip of rock from Mount Everest and toy-size cars from Mexico that will catapult to the lunar surface and cruise around, to the ashes and DNA of deceased space enthusiasts, including “Star Trek” creator Gene Roddenberry and science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke.


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Standard payload delivery options include lunar orbit and the lunar surface where payloads may remain attached to the lander, deploy from the lander for an independent mission, or hitch a ride on an Astrobotic lunar rover.

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It looks like the great endeavor has gone tacky commercial
Looks like its not going far. Don't know why, passed all its vacuum thermal testing.
Astrobotic’s Peregrine lunar lander has “no chance” of a soft landing on the moon after springing a propellant leak in the first few hours of its journey in space, the company has said.
There was 40 hours of fuel left on the lander that would allow it to operate “as a spacecraft” even as engineers determine what its new mission in orbit will be, the space robotics firm said on Tuesday.
Nor is Artemis! Like a Christmas toy the batteries need replacing! Among other things.
NASA's second Artemis mission is expected to be pushed beyond its planned late-2024 target after issues were uncovered with the Lockheed Martin-built (LMT.N) Orion crew capsule's batteries during vibration tests, two of the people said. The batteries will need to be replaced.
SpaceX is way behind, 2 billion per annum well spent!
Artemis 3 - planned to be the first mission landing humans on the moon in late 2025 using the Starship landing system from NASA contractor SpaceX - will likewise be pushed back. Billionaire Elon Musk's SpaceX is taking longer than expected to reach certain development milestones, all four people said.
Not to worry NASA will have another junket in some exotic location on the GLOBE and issue another power point presentation.

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So easy back in the day.
 
Looks like its not going far. Don't know why, passed all its vacuum thermal testing.
By Mike Wall published about 11 hours ago
But the mission team is squeezing some extra life out of the pioneering probe.
The moon dreams of Astrobotic's Peregrine lander are officially dead.

Peregrine launched early Monday morning (Jan. 8) on the debut mission of United Launch Alliance's Vulcan Centaur rocket. The liftoff went well, but Peregrine experienced an anomaly shortly after deploying from the rocket's Centaur upper stage.

The robotic lander couldn't orient itself properly to charge its solar panels, an issue that Astrobotic soon traced to the craft's propulsion system. Mission team members determined that Peregrine was leaking propellant, an ongoing problem that will prevent the probe from carrying out its mission.

"Given the propellant leak, there is unfortunately, no chance of a soft landing on the moon," Astrobotic wrote today (Jan. 9) in an update on X (formerly known as Twitter).

Related: 1st photo from crippled private Peregrine moon lander holds clue to anomaly

The update did provide a bit of good news, however. The team's latest analyses show that Peregrine has about 40 hours' worth of fuel left, meaning the lander will survive longer than previously thought. (An update on Monday evening estimated that Peregrine would run out of fuel about 40 hours from then.)

"The team continues to work to find ways to extend Peregrine's operational life," Astrobotic wrote in today's update. "We are in a stable operating mode and are working payload and spacecraft tests and checkouts. We continue receiving valuable data and proving spaceflight operations for components and software relating to our next lunar lander mission, Griffin."

Griffin is a larger robotic lander that's scheduled to launch toward the moon late this year atop a SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket. Griffin will deliver NASA's ice-hunting VIPER rover to the lunar south polar region, if all goes according to plan.

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Peregrine is carrying five scientific instruments for NASA on its current mission, via the agency's Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program. This gear was designed to study the moon's radiation environment and hunt for water ice near the landing site, among other objectives.

Peregrine also totes 15 other payloads for a variety of customers, including the space-burial company Celestis, whose memorial moon capsule drew objections from the Navajo Nation.

Astrobotic aimed to be the first private company ever to soft-land a probe on the moon. That honor could now go to Houston-based Intuitive Machines, which plans to launch its Nova-C lander next month atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. Like Peregrine, Nova-C is part of the CLPS program and will carry some NASA scientific gear.

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