This message is mentioned in another thread where there is a particular context. However, I thought I would give it its own thread so that we can update the readers without detracting from the issues on the other thread.
Added later: Here is Martha Neyman's website where we also find a photo which helps us to envision her writing her emails below:
Added later: Here is Martha Neyman's website where we also find a photo which helps us to envision her writing her emails below:
Laura said:Speaking of emails...
I received an email today also. Am reproducing it below as well as my response and her response to my response, and Ark's response to her... well, you get the idea.
Anyway, I have this very strong intuition that this is all connected to the Rense, Bridges, Weidner gang as is the letter received by Lisa. They are really putting on the pressure, aren't they?
So, my guess is that this woman's "other ways" of dealing with me (as she hints in her reply to my reply) have something to do with Vinnie and the Rense gang.
My response:Martha Neyman said:From: Martha Neyman
Date sent: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:49:11 +0200
Dearest Laura,
This is Martha...
I am sure we can solve the following problem in a friendly way. You are a very wise woman and only needs half a word to understand !
Reading all "your" information, I saw to my surprise, that you use "MY FIND" of the hidden (jumping Horse) Horse on your home-page! The hidden Horse in the shadow, being the Knight in chess, is MY EXCLUSIVE Find and you only found it by reading MY BOOK: "The Horse of God"!!!
NO other author or writer described this Horse (without my permission) I was and am the only one and first who found it. I cannot remember I gave you permission to USE THIS EXCLUSIVE. I repeat, without my permission. Oh yes, I describes it in my book "The Horse of God", this however does NOT mean YOU may use and without mentioning my name..!
For using MY find, I demand US $ 10.000, - a year, starting from the time you used it and put it on YOUR home page without MY permission. Thus, let us start with 1998..! This means 8 years... This is a very friendly price for plagiarism..! And that is what it is.
But let us settle things in a friendly way... I am a very friendly person, but do not like to be "stalked" with unkindness and mentioning my name without permission. As I wrote you yesterday and repeating your own words, YOU LEARNED by the small mistakes by others..! All these writers were at the base of "YOUR KNOWLEDGE"... And I am glad and feel proud that I was one of these and of any help for you, otherwise you never could have written YOUR book and That would have been a real pity..!!!
My very reasonable proposal is:
1) You change the "sound" of the text on your home-page immediately..!
2) If you do not like to do this, you remove the text completely + the find of MY JUMPING HORSE..!
3) If you like to use MY JUMPING HORSE, you ask permission AND you mention MY NAME under this image, as a "found made by Martha Neyman" + my e-mail address AND Home Page.
4) You no longer can say on your home-page, that I was one of those who were mislead and trapped or used by others, as I wrote two other books... YOU never read, so at this very moment you speak "WITHOUT KNOWING" and that is what for I highly blame you...
I demand a reply to my questions and very serious and "kind" proposal, if not I am afraid I have to charge you for disgrace my good name and using MY FIND, the Jumping Horse, without permission..! I do not like to mention in this stage, I contact my lawyer, as I am sure we can settle this in a friendly way..!
Besides: Consider, that I am in my right and that my first book: The Horse of God" officially is published in Germany. My finds (a/o this the "Jumping Horse") are protected by IBSN and it is forbidden to use them without permission.!!!
If you do NOT react to this letter, I ask my Publisher to undertake further action..! As well as my lawyer..! I would feel very sorry to put it in this way as I have nothing against you.
Kind regards, Martha.
Name: Martha Neyman
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Martha's response to my response (with a little text enhancement by me)Laura said:Dearest Martha,
Aside from the absolute absurdity of thinking that you can "own" an image or anything that can be discerned in said image by the human mind, let me make several points:
First point: the jumping horse was "discovered," (i.e. noticed and discussed) by our QFG research group when it was still Perseus Foundation.
Allow me to remind you of an email I wrote to you on Sun, 18 Oct 1998 on that subject which specifically mentioned this fact.
In short, the absurdity of your theories in your books is only exceeded by the absurdity of your ridiculous demands.
So, get your lawyer, pay his fee, and go for it.
Laura
And finally, Ark's response to Martha's threats:Martha Neyman said:From: "Martha Neyman"
To: "Laura Knight-Jadczyk"
Subject: Re: The Horse
Date sent: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:46:43 +0200
O yes dear Laura, I will...
I understand you do not like to settle this small problem on a friendly
way...
At the contrary of me, you act very bitchily, sorry this is not MAY way of
reacting...
I once again ask you to remove this picture...
And to change the "tune"... That is all!
You know as well as I do, it was "my find" and not by some unknown
organisation...
If you never had read my book "The Horse" you could make a point here, but
you did AND you used My "find" without asking me, that is all...
If you like to play it the hard way, I surely will accept the challenge...
Besides,of my rights recorded by my publisher, there are so much other
ways...
Maybe you feel angry for one moment, I understand, but think it over, do not scold, this certainly is beneath your dignity.
I have respect for YOUR work, so respect mine dear..!
Whatever ideas we have about ones work, do not scold or put the other down,
this is NOT done..!
So, for a second time I repeat my questions to you...
Let us settle things in a friendly way...
Scolding is a sign of inability, I do not have to tell you...
I never said "I owened an Image", that of course is nonsence I only
said, the jumping Horse, hidden in the schadow of the "kneeling Shepherd" as
YOU show it on your home-page is MY find.
Kind regards, Martha
Succes with your research and bookselling
Think it over Laura and settle the dispute in a friendly way.
Coincidence that such emails arrive on the same day to me and to Lisa?Ark said:From: "Arkadiusz Jadczyk"
To: "Martha Neyman"
Date sent: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:30:35 +0200
Subject: Re: The Horse
> I once again ask you to remove this picture...
> And to change the "tune"... That is all!
>
> You know as well as I do, it was "my find" and not by some unknown
> organisation...
Hi,
You are making an error here. The fact that some organization was unknown to you does not imply that it was unknown to other people.
You are making a similar error when you say: "it was my find". It may have been your find in your mind. But it could have been "their" find for other people. When certain things are more or less evident, then many people see and discuss, these things. For instance many people can see Virgin Mary in a cloud.
I am attaching a statement (designed for a court) signed by two members of the French Academy of sciences, a statement dealing with a similar case within science. The horse is not really scientific, but the same logic applies.
I hope it helps.
Regards,
Arkadiusz Jadczyk
We think not!
Geez, they are REALLY cranking out there aren't they? Do we scare them THAT much?
How much you want to bet that if I don't bow down to Martha Neyman's ridiculous extortion demands that she'll be the next guest on Jeff Rense?