Israel official: Strike on Iran possible

Gonzo said:
As often happens on this forum, a person might respond to a post, speaking specifically to the subject at hand. However, if appropriate, someone with insight might notice something in the respondent's words with respect to their programs or illusions that is worthy of pointing out. Upon reading the comments, the respondent misses the deeper message and deals with the superficial context - the original topic of discussion, not realizing (or willfully ignoring), for whatever reason, that the topic has temporarily changed away from the original subject to the new subject: whatever the insightful person recognized.

This, I believe, is what is happening with you transientP. You seem to keep coming back to the original subject and the substance of your post and cannot let go of it enough to shift the paradigm and see the discussion is about you (or one of your programs) and not necessarily the subject of war, minutiae or the right use of energy. Is has become apples and oranges.

This is why you seem to feel an argument is forming when, in fact, effort is being made to have you shift the paradigm away from the apples and over to the oranges.

If you go back to the beginning, you will see the shift was away from the topic to your suggesting t bngenoh's energy might better be directed away from the minutiae and toward the work. Anart commented that bngenoh was merely paying attention to the reality around us, as SotT was also doing.

If you hadn't reacted at that point, you would have been able to receive the information. Instead, your predator or wounded ego created several dance steps to fool you into a thought loop to avoid dealing with anart's comment.

Everything that came after was in response to the dance steps you laid out and efforts of others to steer you back.

At least that's how I see it.

Had you allowed yourself to feel the heat and delved further, you might have benefited greatly from the momentum. However, things have cooled down so it might be that the best you can get from this is an understanding of how to take advantage of the next opportunity when it arises, if you are able.

I hope this makes some sense. I don't feel proficient in explaining it, but I've seen it happen enough, even with me in the hot seat, that I appreciate these opportunities when they arise.

Gonzo

That sums it up. So, it might be worth your time, transientP to re-read your posts this thread as if someone else wrote them - and see if you can see what others see. If you can, then you'll gain insight you seem to be currently missing. If you can't, then, I'm sure other opportunities will arise.
 
Looks like it is starting in earnest, if these developments are true:
According to first-hand accounts and reports provided to Boiling Frogs Post by several sources in Jordan, during the last few hours foreign military groups, estimated at hundreds of individuals, began to spread near the villages of the north-Jordan city of “Al-Mafraq”, which is adjacent to the Jordanian and Syrian border.

According to one Jordanian military officer who asked to remain anonymous, hundreds of soldiers who speak languages ​other than Arabic were seen during the past two days in those areas moving back and forth in military vehicles between the King Hussein Air Base of al-Mafraq (10 km from the Syrian border), and the vicinity of Jordanian villages adjacent to the Syrian border, such as village Albaej (5 km from the border), the area around the dam of Sarhan, the villages of Zubaydiah and al-Nahdah adjacent to the Syrian border.

Another report received from our source in Amman identified an additional US-NATO Command Center in “al-Houshah,’ a village near Mafraq.

Our Iraqi journalist source in London provided us with the following related information:
“Some of the US forces that left the Ain al-Assad Air base in Iraq last Thursday, did not come back to the USA or its base in Germany, but were transferred to Jordan during the evening hours.”
The above information was further corroborated by our correspondent and advisor Nizar Nayouf who interviewed an employee in the London-based office of Royal Jordanian Airlines:
“At least one US aircraft carrying military personnel landed in the Prince Hassan Air base located about 100 km to the east of the city of Al-Mafraq.”

[...]
Nizar Nayouf, BFP advisor and correspondent on Syria in London, had the following statement on Al-Mafraq:
“The al-Mafraq air base, which now includes Air Force Academy, was a starting point for “conspiratorial activities” by Jordan, The UK and Israel against Syria in the past, particularly in the 1960s. In September 1968, a Syrian commando Major, Salim Hatoom, who fled to Jordan with a number of officers after a failed coup attempt, established a camp from which he started a rebel military against the then left-wing government of Syria under president Nureddin al-Atassi and Salah Jadid. By the end of 1970s and early 1980s, the Syrian Islamic Brotherhood and their military wing “At-Taleeah al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah” (the Islamic Militant Vanguard) used the same base for its military struggle against president Hafez a-Assad regime, in which they were being trained by the Jordanian and Israeli intelligence agents, and cars were being bombed before they were sent to the streets of Syrian cities for the killing of innocents and undermining state facilities.”
Mr. Nayouf went on to emphasize the irony of the situation:
“I guess history repeats itself but as farce…Last spring, that tens of Syrian soldiers, who fled to Jordan, were transferred to a camp west of the Jordanian city of “Salt”, in which officers from Israeli military intelligence (AMAN) began the investigation with them under the supervision of the Jordanian military intelligence. This was to extract information from them on issues related to the development of the Syrian army, weapons and training, especially after 2006.”
Source: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/12/11/bfp-exclusive-developing-story-hundreds-of-us-nato-soldiers-arrive-begin-operations-on-the-jordan-syria-border/#respond

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1h1bUfCVc&feature=player_embedded
 
It is interesting to see the disunity or seeming disunity in the Netanyahu government.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared Thursday night, Jan. 19 that Iran had decided to become a nuclear state. He urged action before it was too late to stop Iran completing the construction of a nuclear weapon. His statement at the end of a visit to Holland gave Gen Martin Dempsey, on his first visit to Israel as Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, the message he will be asked to take back to President Barack Obama. It also contradicted Defense Minister Ehud Barak's statement that Tehran had not yet decided to go nuclear.

Netanyahu has kept the Iranian cards close to his chest. His statement therefore caught wrong-footed the Israeli officials, including Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who in the last 48 hours had asserted that Iran had not yet decided whether to build a nuclear bomb and there was still time for US-led sanctions to work.

[...]

Netanyahu therefore stands by his refusal of President Barack Obama's demand for a commitment to abstain from a unilateral strike on Iran's nuclear sites without prior notice to Washington.The US president repeated this demand when he called the Israeli prime minister Thursday night Jan. 13. Netanyahu replied that, in view of their disagreement on this point, he preferred to cancel the biggest US-Israel war game ever staged due to have taken place in April.

[...]

The prime minister was concerned that having large-scale US military forces in the country would restrict his leeway for decision-making on Iran.
Really??
Wednesday (Thursday morning Israel time), President Obama responded by reiterating that he has been clear since running for the presidency that he will take "every step available to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon."

Echoes of Barak's arguments were heard in the words of US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Wednesday night: "We are not making any special steps at this point in order to deal with the situation. Why? Because, frankly, we are fully prepared to deal with that situation now."

[...]

Before he took off for a short trip to Holland, Netanyahu instructed Barak and IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz not to deviate in their talks with Gen. Dempsey from the position he took with the US president, namely, no commitment for advance notice to Washington about a unilateral strike against Iran.
Source: _http://www.debka.com/article/21661/

What all this does is merely cause confusion & fear, which is a great strategy from a psychopathic tacticians point of view. It seems that any day know there will be reports of Israel having initiated it's attack on Iran, and Iran responding, at least if things do not change.
 
Yah i know DEBKA,

In this article, the subtle disinfo (at least as much as i have discerned so far) is very evident, so i don't feel it is necessary to pick it apart. The purported movements of US troops has a wait and see quality about it.
While quietly casting lines to draw Tehran into talks on their nuclear dispute, President Barack Obama is reported exclusively by DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military and Washington sources to have secretly ordered US air, naval and marine forces to build up heavy concentrations on two strategic islands – Socotra, which is part of a Yemeni archipelago in the Indian Ocean, and the Omani island of Masirah at the southern exit of the Strait of Hormuz. Socotra is situated 80 kilometers east of the Horn of Africa and 380 kilometers southeast of the Yemeni coastline. It lies athwart the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. A military base there is in a position to oversee the shipping moving in and out of those strategic naval waterways.

Lushly verdant, Socotra is approximately 120 kilometers long by 40 kilometers wide. Its population of 55,000 has its own distinct language and culture. Since 2010, the US has been quietly building giant air force and naval bases on Socotra with facilities for submarines, intelligence command centers and take-off pads for flying stealth drones, as part of a linked chain of strategic US military facilities in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf.

[...]

For the new buildup on Socotra, Washington had to negotiate a new deal with Yemen's ousted ruler Ali Abdullah Saleh. Injured in an assassination attempt last year, Saleh demanded permission to travel to the United States for medical treatment. The Obama administration first refused, then relented when Saleh made it his condition for consenting to additional troops landing on the island.

Western military sources familiar with the American buildup on the two strategic islands tell DEBKA-Net-Weekly that, although they cannot cite precise figures, they are witnessing the heaviest American concentration of might in the region since the US invaded Iraq in 2003.
Then, 100,000 American troops were massed in Kuwait ahead of the invasion. Today, those sources estimate from the current pace of arrivals on the two island bases, that 50,000 US troops will have accumulated on Socotra and Masirah by mid-February. They will top up the 50,000 military already present in the Persian Gulf region, so that in less than a month, Washington will have some 100,000 military personnel on the spot and available for any contingency.

US air transports are described as making almost daily landings on Socotra and Masirah. They fly in from the US naval base of Diego Garcia, one of America's biggest military facilities, just over 3,000 kilometers away. The US military presence in the region will further expand in the first week of March when three US aircraft carriers and their strike groups plus a French carrier arrive in the Persian Gulf, the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea: They are the USS Abraham Lincoln, USS Carl Vinson, USS Enterprise and the Charles de Gaulle nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. A fourth US carrier will be standing by in the Pacific Ocean, a few days' sailing time from the water off Iran's coast.

By early March, therefore, America will have piled up enough military strength within reach of Iran to exercise its consistently avowed military option.

Tuesday, Jan. 24, in his State of the Union address, the president said: “Let there be no doubt: America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal. But a peaceful resolution of this issue is still possible, and far better, and if Iran changes course and meets its obligations, it can rejoin the community of nations.”
Textbook double speak, we want a peaceful resolution, that is why we are and have already declared war, economically, diplomatically, politically, not so covertly, etc.
Our military sources have also picked up reports of British and French air, naval and special forces landings this month in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

[...]

The passage through the Strait of Hormuz by the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and three destroyers – one American, one British and one French, early Monday, Jan. 23 - surprised the world, but not apparently Tehran, which let the warships sail through without interference or incident.

Just two days earlier, Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) deputy commander Hossein Salami made an uncharacteristically mild comment: “US warships and military forces have been in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East region for many years, and their decision in relation to the dispatch of a new warship is not a new issue, and it should be interpreted as part of their permanent presence,” he said. These events were the first outward sign of back-channel talks afoot between the emissaries of US President Barack Obama and Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
To me, this is a measure to buy time on both sides. Iran is under no delusion about it's fate, after watching Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc, it knows what is in store for it, so any more time to prepare is welcome. Though i could be way of. As to why Washington is also delaying? don't have a clue.

Source: _http://www.debka.com/weekly/526/printversion/
 
Anonymous declared war on Israel. That should interesting.
https://www.sott.net/articles/show/241395-Anonymous-Vows-Crusade-Against-Israel
 
Israel is unveiling bomb shelters:
TEL AVIV, Israel: Underneath the plaza outside Israel's Habima national theater, Israel has put the finishing touches on a new gathering place that it hopes will never host a crowd: The country's most advanced public underground bomb shelter.
Source: _http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Israel-unveils-sophisticated-bomb-shelters-in-Tel-Aviv/articleshow/12100497.cms

Granted they've always had them, perhaps a symbolic message.
The mainstream media this week made much of reports that Israel had refused a request to provide the US with advanced warning of any plans to strike Iran's nuclear facilities.

But that may be just what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is doing as he prepares to depart for Washington this weekend. Some speculate that Monday's White House meeting may be the last face-to-face between Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama before an inevitable Israeli move on Iran.

[...]

Also on Wednesday, US Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz revealed to reporters that the US has prepared strike plans of its own, and will likely execute them if Israel goes to war with Iran.
Source: _http://www.israeltoday.co.il/tabid/178/nid/23140/language/en-US/Default.aspx

And this:
In a dramatic U-turn to show Israel that Washington is serious about its military option against Iran’s nuclear program, Pentagon officials disclosed Thursday, March 1, that “military options being prepared start with providing refueling for Israeli planes and include attacking the pillars of the clerical regime. They include the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and its elite Qods Force, regular Iranian military bases and the Ministry of Intelligence and Security." The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in Washington’s first public reference to possible joint military action with Israel against Iran.
Source: _http://www.debka.com/article/21780/
 
Just watched this video: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5T5CF1jhTg

Perfect example of scaremongering and vicious propaganda. 5 min. video is about young couple trying to flee amidst of what seems to be nuclear attack on Israel. We can only guess who is launching rockets, but it's clear that this movie is directed against Iran and definitively with aim to raise fear over possible (imminent) Iran's nuclear attack on Israel. My guess is, that this is part of ongoing campaign to justify probable "preemptive" strike on Iran. Date is also interesting, Feb. 2013.
Sick. :curse:

Added:
Now, who's drumming the drums of war?

_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17267863

We can smell the gun powder in the air.
 
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