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1st Place: Lordi with a song: Hard Rock Hallelujah !

What do you guys think ? Is it coincidence or someone "good" gave it a touch ? I mean, these guys look scary and sound angry, but to me they are singing bits of truth...(see lyrics below). I mean, quite close to it... So what do you think ? Is it "some sort of message" or is it truly depends on ones perception ?

I mean, this is quite "extraordinary" band to be a 1st place in such contest as Eurovision !

P.S. Ark, greetings from Belarus :) Words and languages are sure interesting thing. "Mater' Bozh'ja" (aka Virgin Mary, literally: Mother of God). If you move stress in word "Mater'", phrase does get an interesting meaning :)



(lyrics)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!
Hard Rock Hallelujah!

The saints are crippled
On this sinners' night
Lost are the lambs with no guiding light

The walls come down like thunder
The rocks about to roll
It's The Arockalypse
Now bare your soul

All we need is lightning
With power and might
Striking down the prophets of false
As the moon is rising
Give us the sign
Now let us rise up in awe

Rock 'n roll angels bring thine Hard Rock Hallelujah
Demons and angels all in one have arrived
Rock 'n roll angels bring thine Hard Rock Hallelujah
In God's creation supernatural high

The true believers
Thou shall be saved
Brothers and sisters, keep strong in the faith.
On the day of Rockoning
It's who dares, wins
You will see the jokers soon'll be the new kings

All we need is lightning
With power and might
Striking down the prophets of false
As the moon is rising
Give us the sign
Now let us rise up in awe

Rock 'n roll angels bring thine Hard Rock Hallelujah
Demons and angels all in one have arrived
Rock 'n roll angels bring thine Hard Rock Hallelujah
In God's creation supernatural high

Wings on my back
I got horns on my head
My fangs are sharp
And my eyes are red
Not quite an angel
Or the one that fell
Now choose to join us or go straight to hell

Hard Rock Hallelujah!
Hard Rock Hallelujah!
Hard Rock Hallelujah!
Hard Rock Yeah!

Rock 'n roll angels bring thine Hard Rock Hallelujah
Demons and angels all in one have arrived
Rock 'n roll angels bring thine Hard Rock Hallelujah
In God's creation supernatural high
 
Euro Trash Contest

might not be good idea to take it seriously
 
Personally, I couldn't believe that these guys won, not that I had any real investment in the outcome. It was just surprising that a bunch of Finnish loopers dressed up rather convincingly as demons and singing about "hard rock hallelujah" would be picked by normal people

Maybe only loopers voted. :-)

Joe
 
Thank you for all of your replies. Do not look at picture too literally. Prejudice away. I do not really care how things look or sound, what you see can be deceiving.


To my understanding (again, no one has to agree). They are singing about people's crippled "good side" and being lost because of own "sin". At times when something what is called "apocalypse" comes, people will have to bare their soul, meaning people will be really who they are, not what they wish they are. Then lordi calling upon something striking "prophets of false", which in my interpretation is death of all "fake values/beliefs". Then they sing about "Demons and angels all in one have arrived", which I think is representation of what seems to be bad, can be good if "accepted" right, it depends how you look at it. "The true believers Thou shall be saved" I think this is true, people who have too much pre-set beliefs that limit own mind and perception really should be saved, as they are too preoccupied "saving" people who have different beliefs and living in illusion. "It's who dares, wins" people who dare these pre-set "beliefs" win, since they no longer limit thyself.

"Wings on my back
I got horns on my head
My fangs are sharp
And my eyes are red
Not quite an angel
Or the one that fell
Now choose to join us or go straight to hell"

Well, I think that what we are.

So in my terms, bits of truths are there.

Of course this is just my crazy interpretation.

I am wondering if artists receive some sort of inspiration and sometimes can get a "good" influence, even if theme is "wrong". And this not only applies to Lordi. If you look at songs quite symbolically, different meaning often appears. Or is it truly uniquely depends on perception of an individual ? I have "musical" background, I tend to receive feeling of music (kinda tune in it), not only sound. I also think that truth is in everything. Just need to learn how to see it better. Everything out there is to teach if you look at it without prejudice.
 
This one is pretty bizarre.


As Macron bends over backwards, frontwards and sideways, to accommodate Israeli demands that anyone criticizing Israel be denounced as "anti-semitic", the Israelis have somehow managed to predict, months ago, that the French representative in this year's Eurovision song contest would be a gay Algerian Muslim, AND a terrorist (of course!).

The three-part series called Douze Points ('twelve points' in French, the highest score you can receive at Eurovision) is about a French-Algerian Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) terrorist posing as a gay man who manages to secure a place in the high-profile international song contest - ostensibly in hopes of carrying out a heinous terrorist attack live on television. The program will air the same week as Eurovision 2019, which is being hosted by Israel.

The really bizarre part is that the Israel film company developed the plot of the show many months before it was known who would represent France in the contest!
 
The three-part series called Douze Points ('twelve points' in French, the highest score you can receive at Eurovision) is about a French-Algerian Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) terrorist posing as a gay man who manages to secure a place in the high-profile international song contest - ostensibly in hopes of carrying out a heinous terrorist attack live on television. The program will air the same week as Eurovision 2019, which is being hosted by Israel.

The whole Eurovision 2019 scenario might have as it's apex, a movement that's been developing in Jewish communities throughout Europe and the US - "feelings of animosity against Israeli policy (has) now morphed into overt antisemitism whereby most Jewish communities are now seen and labeled as pro-Israel and anti-democratic. The consequences of this scenario are immensely serious. It means that the half a million Jews in France and the quarter of a million in Britain now live in, if not fear then in apprehension of a period in Europe similar to that of the 1930s in Germany whereby antisemitism grew exponentially and which, of course, led to the horrors of the Holocaust. It is not expected that there will be another Holocaust but it is anticipated, in many (Jewish) quarters, that there may well be a forced exodus of Jews from the Diaspora to Israel as the only sanctuary available. This is in view of that which has transpired but which has only transpired owing to the extraordinary arrogance, or possibly stupidity, of the indiscriminate support for a regime whose policies are clearly anathema to the average European and in opposition to the principles of western democracy."

February 21, 2019 - Fraught Times for Europe’s Jews Now Advised to Reconsider Their Unqualified Support for Israel
Fraught Times for Europe’s Jews Now Advised to Reconsider Their Unqualified Support for Israel - Global Research


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AND a terrorist (of course!)

This terrorism accusation, as outlandish as it might seem, resonates with some tweets posted by Bilal Hassani where he was mocking the Jewish victims of the terror attacks that struck France. Hassani also accused Israel of crime against humanity. Source (in French)
 
Eurovision 2019 Finale and the Occult Meaning of Madonna’s Controversial Performance
Vigilant Citizen

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A look at the symbolism found throughout the finale of Eurovision 2019 and an analysis of Madonna’s extremely symbolic and controversial performance.
Eurovision is an annual international song competition with participants representing primarily European countries. The show has been broadcasting every year since 1956 and is one of the most watched non-sporting events in the world, with an average audience of 300 million viewers.


Needless to say, Eurovision has been incredibly influential throughout the decades and has helped launch the careers of countless artists. That being said, is there a chance that the show’s reach could be used by the elite to push its messages and symbolism? You betcha. And this year’s edition was particularly obvious. Taking place in Israel, the show even culminated with an elaborate yet horrifying performance by the Grand Priestess of the music industry herself: Madonna.


What They SECRETLY Told Us At EUROVISION (2019)
 
Another interesting fact about this "song contest" is that winners and therefore venues often seemed to be predetermined.
Let's take Israel for example, a country which is not exactly situated in Europe, which seems to have been elected at a conspicuous interval of every twenty years: 1979 - 1999 - 2019.

This site discusses the jewishness of Madonna ( a "meshuggenah shiksa") who obviously converted to the Kabbalist shtick to enhance her career.

Would she have named her daughter "Lourdes" if she had Jewish origins?
 
Let's take Israel for example, a country which is not exactly situated in Europe, which seems to have been elected at a conspicuous interval of every twenty years: 1979 - 1999 - 2019.

I get the impression, the Eurovision production, when in "a country which is not exactly situated in Europe" is mainly to entertain "the elite echelons"? Add Netanyahu's recent (rigged) election and it was a great way to entertain his guests (without picking up the tab). Another thing about the "timing" of the Eurovision production, which I would imagine, could have been moved to a different date sequence - it ran counter to the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and the location - of one of their largest Mosques - is near where the Eurovision was being held. Coincidence or by design?

Eurovision Village partying upsets nearby mosque worshippers in Ramadan
FILE PHOTO: The minaret of the Hassan Bek Mosque is seen behind the Eurovision Village, an area for fans of the 2019 Eurovision Song Contest, as seen from the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Tel Aviv, Israel May 12, 2019. REUTERS/Ronen Zvulun/File Photo

The Eurovision Song Contest has found few fans in a famous mosque in the Israeli host city, where worshippers have complained that the gaudy festivities are disrupting their observances of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

On Eurovision final day, Israelis cheer as Palestinians protest
Israeli policemen patrol the area near the beach on the eve of the 2019 Eurovision song contest final in Tel Aviv, Israel May 18, 2019 REUTERS/ Ammar Awad

As singers made last-minute preparations for the Eurovision Song Contest in Tel Aviv on Saturday, Israeli police threw a high-security cordon around the venue to head off attacks, or protests by boycotters who have urged fans to shun the event.

Israeli host expecting Eurovision 'punishment' for Iceland's Palestinian flag display
Participants Hatari of Iceland perform during a dress rehearsal ahead of the Grand Final of 2019 Eurovision Song Contest in Tel Aviv, Israel May 17, 2019. REUTERS/Ronen Zvulun

The Israeli broadcaster of the Eurovision Song Contest said on Sunday that an unauthorized display of Palestinian flags by Iceland's band could draw "punishment" from the event's organizers.
 
There's an interesting article about the 2022 Eurovision contest cheating in the mainstream media French newspaper "Le Parisien". Interesting because it show the deep of the control the PTB have an how they proceed. In substance it's interesting too because with this kind of fraud the PTB shoot itself in the foot.

Here is the translation :

Eurovision: Romania assures that its vote was not taken into account​


The Romanian jury explains that it wanted to give its twelve points to Moldova, and that they finally went to Ukraine, the winner of the contest.​


May 15 2022

We're not talking about cheating at this point, but a serious setback. The Romanian jury's vote in favor of Moldova was "replaced" on Saturday at Eurovision by a "substitute calculated in a non-transparent way," Romanian public television TVR said Sunday. "We were unpleasantly surprised to see that the vote was not taken into account in the final ranking, with the organizers assigning another set of scores to the competitors in the final," TVR wrote in a statement. "We clarify that the Romanian jury decided to award the maximum score to the representatives of Moldova," it detailed.

On Saturday night, the twelve points of this country went not to Moldova but to Ukraine, which won the competition. Romania also regretted that "the rules were changed during the game", its presenter was not "allowed" to intervene live as the majority of other countries to communicate the vote of the jury of his country. Depending on the response it receives from the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), the organizing body of Eurovision, it reserves the right "to take measures to correct the situation.

Irregular voting patterns identified in six countries

At Eurovision, jurors from each country distribute points to the different countries and viewers vote by phone. On Saturday night, the EBU pointed out "certain irregular voting patterns identified in the results of six countries" in the second semi-final and the final.

It did not specify which states were affected or whether these irregularities could have an impact on the final ranking. "The EBU takes any alleged attempt to manipulate the voting at the Eurovision Song Contest very seriously," it said in a statement. Ukraine won the contest in Italy ahead of the United Kingdom and Spain, thanks to the vote of viewers who voted for the group representing the country invaded by Russian troops.

On Sunday, Ukrainian Culture Minister Oleksandr Tkachenko regretted that the Kiev jury did not award any points to Poland and Lithuania, two important supporters against Moscow. "Such an assessment does not reflect our true attitude towards you, our closest friends in Europe. It is a real shame to give Poland and Lithuania 0 points. Ukrainians give you 12 points!" he assured on Facebook.

 
As I was doing my rounds this evening, I came across an article that had an interesting take on it, I will translate it below:

In the photo, on the left, one of the escorts of Ukraine's Eurovision representatives shows the trident on his T-shirt. This medieval symbol did not become Ukraine's emblem until 1917-1918, at the initiative of historian Mikhail Hrushevsky, and was adopted as the country's coat of arms in 1996. Its base can be drawn in two different ways and the variations in its colors also have particular meanings. The variant carried by the individual in the photo is not the official version but that of the flag bearers.

The annual Eurovision Song Contest took place last weekend in Turin, Italy. The official organizer of this annual song contest is the European Broadcasting Union (European Broadcasting Union or EBU), which groups the European state television stations, with an estimated audience of 200 million people.

At the initiative of France's Delphine Ernotte, president of the EBU and France Televisions, Russia - which is a full member of the EBU - was excluded from the competition because of its military intervention in Ukraine. Of the 65 EBU member countries, only 25 participated in this year's Eurovision.

The truth is that one has to be very naive to believe in the honesty of the Eurovision Song Contest, which is above all a propaganda tool... created by NATO in 1955 (see the documents included at the end of this information) and which has always been under the strict control of that war bloc.

The real referee in Eurovision is the United States, a country that does not even participate in this song contest.

If you don't believe it, judge for yourself.

This is the third time Ukraine has won at Eurovision.
The first "coincided" with the "orange revolution", in 2004;
the second one, in 2016, "coincided" with the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation and
the third "coincides" now with the Russian military intervention in Ukraine.

This year, NATO preferred not to have a "text" song win in order to avoid a controversy like the one in 2016, when the song 1944, whose lyrics referred to the deportation of Crimean Tatars, in Stalin's time, was given as the winner. Many viewers then denounced the involvement of Tatar tribes alongside the Nazis during World War II, highlighting above all the actions of members of the Crimean Tatar SS Legion and the SS Idel-Ural Legion.

Upon learning the result of the contest, the singer of the winning Ukrainian group belted out "Glory to Ukraine!", which is the battle cry uttered by the flag-wavers as they murdered 1.6 million Ukrainians under Nazi occupation, during World War II.

The documents we include at the end of this information were declassified on January 16, 2015, in accordance with U.S. law, and bear the signature of the American Geoffrey Parsons Jr, head of NATO's communication service and spokesman for the Atlantic alliance.

Breaking with tradition, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg interrupted a meeting in Berlin to hail the victory of Ukraine's Eurovision representatives.

Now, the documents alluded to in the article above are here(from 1956) and here (from 1955). They are short declassified NATO documents apparently and they show the interest and the pragmatism with which propaganda is discussed, and the purpose is exactly what Eurovision does in the EU, provide a non-news segment that validates the sentiments that the official narrative claims are felt by everyone. i.e. The news agree with the government about Ukraine, and people do too, it's clearly visible in Eurovision.

It's like adding a bit of salt to their reality recipe.
 
I personally didnt watch the show but my colleagues did. They asked me who I think won and I guessed Ukraine and they said yes. I think "We shall know them by the fruits of their actions..." if the saying fits the context in anyway.
 
As I was doing my rounds this evening, I came across an article that had an interesting take on it, I will translate it below:



Now, the documents alluded to in the article above are here(from 1956) and here (from 1955). They are short declassified NATO documents apparently and they show the interest and the pragmatism with which propaganda is discussed, and the purpose is exactly what Eurovision does in the EU, provide a non-news segment that validates the sentiments that the official narrative claims are felt by everyone. i.e. The news agree with the government about Ukraine, and people do too, it's clearly visible in Eurovision.

It's like adding a bit of salt to their reality recipe.
The Eurovision jury has voted politocally for at least 40 plus years to my knowledge, rarely was it based on talent. Often it was just to slight one country (usually the UK), or to favour another (often Isreal), whatever was the flavour of the month.
 
This program is as old as Methuselah. It is incredible that
it still exists and that generation after generation people look at it. Most of the songs are horrible. And the winner is always so proud to win. It's like a soccer game.

Since my childhood this program exists. I remember the year Spain won, around 1968 with a bad singer, Massiel. Of course, the adults were proud that Spain got the first prize. Now we know that everything is wrong, including the winners and that it is just a political junk, but more, propaganda.
 
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