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Shimbun means news...just...ya know...FYI...
I don't think the U.S. will attack Iran outright, I think they will dance around them for awhile. If they do then they are absolutely retarded...wait I take that all back, they will prolly attack Iran...idiots.
I don't think the U.S. will attack Iran outright, I think they will dance around them for awhile. If they do then they are absolutely retarded...wait I take that all back, they will prolly attack Iran...idiots.
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gritzle70
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Surprise, surprise. The US won't invade Iran by itself; it has many willing accomplices in the EU. They are all "in on it."
Sorry for the length but I don't have a link:
What is "Camolin"?
A little-noticed report in Der Spiegel in November 2004 (13.11.04) revealed the existence of an intelligence operation called "Camolin" involving agencies from the USA, Germany, France, UK, Canada and Australia.
The operation set up in February 2003 is charged with tracking down Al-Qaeda suspects in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Its headquarters is in a military barracks close to Paris where regular meetings of the agencies take place backed up by a secure communications system. The role of the European agencies is to supply dossiers on suspects which the CIA then acts on.
The Der Speigel article stated the Germany was represented by the Federal Intelligence Agency and the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
Source: Webdiary
Filed 16 January 2006
See: http://www.statewatch.org/news/2006/jan/05eu-camolin.htm
Codename Camolin
Before the invasion of Iraq, Webdiarist Alun Breward translated A think tank war: Why old Europe says no from der Spiegal which became Webdiary's most read piece. Today Alun has provided a major extract from another der Spiegal article on the secret service group 'Camolin', published today.
"I have not been able to establish if there is anything about it in the USA or UK media, but it doesn't seem to have made it into the Australian media. I hope it might be useful." Thanks Alun.
The Shady Ones
by Georg Mascolo and Holger Stark, Der Spiegal
[extract translated by Alun Breward]
European Intelligence Services are working together with the CIA in a Paris Anti-terror centre - their work is as delicate as it is secret.
The personnel were hand-picked and their work high risk. American secret service agents worked undercover with an international team - all of them hard men from the elite units of six nations. Of course there was a Briton, and even Old Europe was represented: a German took part, as did a French agent. The team, codename "Rainbow Six" liberated an Austrian millionaire from his kidnappers, preventing the release of a terrorist in exchange for the tycoon. All in a day's work for the Top Guns of the war against terror.
The heroes are fictional and come from Tom Clancy's "Operation Rainbow".
But reality has overtaken Clancy's fiction. Since February 2003 there has been a similar secret service group operating in Europe, in which all those nations that feature in Clancy's political thriller play a part.
Besides these countries Canada and Australia are involved. The secret group has the codename "Camolin" and aims, like its literary model, to hunt terrorists and prevent their attacks.
So delicate is the existence of these multinational terrorist-hunters that a spokeswoman for Interior Minister Otto Schily audaciously denied the first reports of the organisation. "There is no anti-terror-centre in which German officials take part" she said.
But there is, and their cooperation is a matter of great sensitivity.
For officially European states are distancing themselves from the hard-knuckled American fight against terrorism. Germany and France do not want to have anything to do with Guantanamo and the so-called Black Sites, where torture of suspects takes place, according to human rights groups.
On the other hand, international cooperation in this conflict is indispensable and for this reason the German government has dispatched an official of the Federal Intelligence agency, as well as a representative of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution. They attend the regular Camolin meetings in a barracks on the outskirts of Paris.
The political difficulties with Camolin only truly begin after a successful mission: there are no guarantees what will happen with leaders of the jihad that are picked up as result of this transatlantic cooperation.
Camolin aims only to improve participants' reach - what happens with those they track down remains secret.
This Paris group must be understood as a unique entity. Only results count and the top secret foundation agreement anticipates that member nations will put all relevant information on the table. In this way Camolin has made it possible for the CIA to operate legally in Europe.
For the US government this information exchange is of huge importance: they regard Europe as the epicentre of jihad. The continent is "much more dangerous" than America, maintains John Negroponte, Director of the USA's national intelligence. "Ten million Muslims live there, and they are not integrated into society" he warns.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/11/codename_camoli.html
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Germany: Government complicit in Iraq war -
Secret service BND remained in Baghdad and
supported US military in "identification of
targets", Panorama programme reveals: See:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2006/jan/04germany-iraq.htm
----
UK: Telephone and communication interception reaches new high - now
three times more than when the Labour government came to powe in 1997:
Statewatch's Observatory on: Telephone tapping and mail-opening figures
1937- 2004:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/uk-tel-tap-rep-2004.htm
It is interesting to compare the UK figures with those for the USA, see:
The Centre for Democracy and Technology (USA, link):
http://www.cdt.org/wiretap/wiretap_overview.html
The comparable figures showed that in 2003 there were more interception
warrants issued in the UK than the whole of the USA. Figures for warrants
issued by the UK Foreign Office (for the Secret Intelligence Service, MI6
and for GCHQ) were only published 1980-1984.
--
OBSERVATORY ON THE SURVEILLANCE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS IN THE EU
Statewatch has launched an Observatory on the surveillance of
telecommunications in the EU - under mandatory data retention a record will
be kept of everyone's phone-calls, e-mails, mobile phone calls (including
location) and internet usage. The Council (the 25 EU governments) are
proposing the data can be accessed by law enforcement agencies for any
suspected crime, however minor. The proposal is now being discussed in the
European Parliament:
Observatory: http://www.statewatch.org/eu-data-retention.htm
and Critical Opinion of the Article 29 Working Party on Data Protection:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/WP113.pdf
UK-EU: Data retention and police access in the UK - a warning for Europe:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/01uk-eu-police-access-to-data.htm
UK: Statement from the families of the men who have been detained
pending deportation to countries where they are certain to be tortured and
even killed:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/deportees-statement.pdf
The right to know or the right to try and find out? The need for an EU
freedom of information law, by Ben Hayes:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/eu-FOI.pdf
Statewatch Observatory
The surveillance of telecommunications in the EU
http://www.statewatch.org/eu-data-retention.htm
Sorry for the length but I don't have a link:
What is "Camolin"?
A little-noticed report in Der Spiegel in November 2004 (13.11.04) revealed the existence of an intelligence operation called "Camolin" involving agencies from the USA, Germany, France, UK, Canada and Australia.
The operation set up in February 2003 is charged with tracking down Al-Qaeda suspects in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Its headquarters is in a military barracks close to Paris where regular meetings of the agencies take place backed up by a secure communications system. The role of the European agencies is to supply dossiers on suspects which the CIA then acts on.
The Der Speigel article stated the Germany was represented by the Federal Intelligence Agency and the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
Source: Webdiary
Filed 16 January 2006
See: http://www.statewatch.org/news/2006/jan/05eu-camolin.htm
Codename Camolin
Before the invasion of Iraq, Webdiarist Alun Breward translated A think tank war: Why old Europe says no from der Spiegal which became Webdiary's most read piece. Today Alun has provided a major extract from another der Spiegal article on the secret service group 'Camolin', published today.
"I have not been able to establish if there is anything about it in the USA or UK media, but it doesn't seem to have made it into the Australian media. I hope it might be useful." Thanks Alun.
The Shady Ones
by Georg Mascolo and Holger Stark, Der Spiegal
[extract translated by Alun Breward]
European Intelligence Services are working together with the CIA in a Paris Anti-terror centre - their work is as delicate as it is secret.
The personnel were hand-picked and their work high risk. American secret service agents worked undercover with an international team - all of them hard men from the elite units of six nations. Of course there was a Briton, and even Old Europe was represented: a German took part, as did a French agent. The team, codename "Rainbow Six" liberated an Austrian millionaire from his kidnappers, preventing the release of a terrorist in exchange for the tycoon. All in a day's work for the Top Guns of the war against terror.
The heroes are fictional and come from Tom Clancy's "Operation Rainbow".
But reality has overtaken Clancy's fiction. Since February 2003 there has been a similar secret service group operating in Europe, in which all those nations that feature in Clancy's political thriller play a part.
Besides these countries Canada and Australia are involved. The secret group has the codename "Camolin" and aims, like its literary model, to hunt terrorists and prevent their attacks.
So delicate is the existence of these multinational terrorist-hunters that a spokeswoman for Interior Minister Otto Schily audaciously denied the first reports of the organisation. "There is no anti-terror-centre in which German officials take part" she said.
But there is, and their cooperation is a matter of great sensitivity.
For officially European states are distancing themselves from the hard-knuckled American fight against terrorism. Germany and France do not want to have anything to do with Guantanamo and the so-called Black Sites, where torture of suspects takes place, according to human rights groups.
On the other hand, international cooperation in this conflict is indispensable and for this reason the German government has dispatched an official of the Federal Intelligence agency, as well as a representative of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution. They attend the regular Camolin meetings in a barracks on the outskirts of Paris.
The political difficulties with Camolin only truly begin after a successful mission: there are no guarantees what will happen with leaders of the jihad that are picked up as result of this transatlantic cooperation.
Camolin aims only to improve participants' reach - what happens with those they track down remains secret.
This Paris group must be understood as a unique entity. Only results count and the top secret foundation agreement anticipates that member nations will put all relevant information on the table. In this way Camolin has made it possible for the CIA to operate legally in Europe.
For the US government this information exchange is of huge importance: they regard Europe as the epicentre of jihad. The continent is "much more dangerous" than America, maintains John Negroponte, Director of the USA's national intelligence. "Ten million Muslims live there, and they are not integrated into society" he warns.
http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/11/codename_camoli.html
---------
Germany: Government complicit in Iraq war -
Secret service BND remained in Baghdad and
supported US military in "identification of
targets", Panorama programme reveals: See:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2006/jan/04germany-iraq.htm
----
UK: Telephone and communication interception reaches new high - now
three times more than when the Labour government came to powe in 1997:
Statewatch's Observatory on: Telephone tapping and mail-opening figures
1937- 2004:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/uk-tel-tap-rep-2004.htm
It is interesting to compare the UK figures with those for the USA, see:
The Centre for Democracy and Technology (USA, link):
http://www.cdt.org/wiretap/wiretap_overview.html
The comparable figures showed that in 2003 there were more interception
warrants issued in the UK than the whole of the USA. Figures for warrants
issued by the UK Foreign Office (for the Secret Intelligence Service, MI6
and for GCHQ) were only published 1980-1984.
--
OBSERVATORY ON THE SURVEILLANCE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS IN THE EU
Statewatch has launched an Observatory on the surveillance of
telecommunications in the EU - under mandatory data retention a record will
be kept of everyone's phone-calls, e-mails, mobile phone calls (including
location) and internet usage. The Council (the 25 EU governments) are
proposing the data can be accessed by law enforcement agencies for any
suspected crime, however minor. The proposal is now being discussed in the
European Parliament:
Observatory: http://www.statewatch.org/eu-data-retention.htm
and Critical Opinion of the Article 29 Working Party on Data Protection:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/WP113.pdf
UK-EU: Data retention and police access in the UK - a warning for Europe:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/01uk-eu-police-access-to-data.htm
UK: Statement from the families of the men who have been detained
pending deportation to countries where they are certain to be tortured and
even killed:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/deportees-statement.pdf
The right to know or the right to try and find out? The need for an EU
freedom of information law, by Ben Hayes:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/nov/eu-FOI.pdf
Statewatch Observatory
The surveillance of telecommunications in the EU
http://www.statewatch.org/eu-data-retention.htm
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gritzle70
Guest
My guess as a plan for provocation goes something like this. However, I amended it after I learned about "Codename Camolin."
I have a creepy feeling that they will stage a a 1-2-3 punch. I think the number 3 is a "good luck" Satanic number; and Boosh keeps talking about "Trifectas."
They need to convince the Israeli people, the American people and at least one European country that Iran should be attacked.
Ideally they will stage these attacks around the time the Iranian oil bourse opens and Iran switches to the Euro; or around the time of the Israeli elections which will be a good time for Israel to distract its citizens.
However, the PTB do like to follow their Masonic Satanic numerology timetable. They could stage the actual invasion no later than 6/6/06 (666). They are pathologically amusing that way. They like to leave their "signature" on all their manufactured terrorist events.
In Europe, my guess is they will pick France because it was hit earlier this year with manufactured "Muslim" riots; so the French populace is primed. They also have the largest Jewish population in Europe. France was the country who most opposed the US invasion of Iraq. There are all kinds of possibilities for detonations anywhere along its extensive rail system there. I don't think they will try a metro bombing ... to much like London. There is the age old rivalry between France and Germany for dominance in the EU. So France will "take the fall."
I think the Germans will play it "both ways". They are in bed with the Russians. They have cut a deal to have Russia build an oil pipeline to supply Western Europe directly. So Germany will pull a "no contest" but will abet the EU covertly.
Russia is also building a pipeline to China. Russia has also supplied Iran with the Sunburn missile, which is a tehnology that the US doesn't have. Iran has also built a oil pipeline to Russia. Russia and China have threatened retaliation against the US if it invades Iran. Russia has also threatened to shut off oil to Western Europe.
China has said she doesn't really care who provides her with oil as long as the source is not disrupted. So does she really care if Iran supplies her the oil directly or if it is supplied to her by US-controlled Iranian puppets.
Iran has threatned to use its Sunburn missiles against Israel if they attack first, so the question is, "Will Israel stage a false flag attack against its own people and blame Iran and Palestinian?"
Which brings me to my next scenario:
There will be synthetic terrorist attack in Israel (probably Tel Aviv); and it would happen around the time of the Israeli elections. They might even assassinate one of their more moderate candidates, like Acting Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, to make way for Bibi, the rabid attack dog who believes in nuking first and exercising the "Sampson Option" should the worst case scenaro occur.
After all "word" has it that the Mossad poisoned Sharon because he was too "moderate." He is not expected to recover; and they will finish him off after the elections have been "decided." Israel will claim that Hamas is the culprit and it is being aided by "al Quaeda" operatives from Iran.
Now you and I know that "al Quaeda" is nothing but a US/Israel/MI6 psy ops creation, but do the Israeli or American public know this?
As for the 9112B in the US, it will most probably be a "dirty nuke" attack since Boosh, our "esteemed" leader, keeps remindnig us that Iran is a "nuclear threat." Hence Boosh will have to use a dirty nuke. I think they will attack a nuclear plant on the West Coast. I have heard that there is one that actually sits on the San Andreas fault line.
And to make matters more "interesting" there is a joint venture between the "scientists", the corporatists and US officials to drill into the San Andreas fault line to study (sic) seismic activity. Would't this be a nifty place to plant a dirty nuke. Then they could create an earthquake using their EM weaponized weather technology. During the earthquake, they would detonate the dirty nuke.
If you think this is the wildest of fantasies, check it out. They are drilling along the San Andreas faultline:
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2002/july10/pilothole-710.html
If a "natural" disaster like an earthquake occurs, the victims won't notice that a nuke has been detonated. Everyone will be in a state of panic and just beg Boosh to establish martial law and a police state to protect them (which is why Boosh staged the fake terror attack in the first place).
We will give up all our liberties (not that any are left now) and rights to privacy. We will be microchipped, hauled off to concentration camps, and all dissedents will be executed as "terrorists." The government will create a global pandemic using its latest bio-engineered micoplasma. We will be forced to take tainted vaccines that are meant to protect us in the short term but will kill us later on. The global elite in 2002 passed secret legislation called "Operation Global Cleanse." They want to "cull the herd." It's global genocide for "fun and profit"
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/mycoplasma.html
_http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcnsaglobal2000report10mar81.shtml
And they have an incredible range of weapons which can literally destroy your mind:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786715618/102-1631298-2759305
http://www.defensetech.org/peoplezapping.pdf
The end result is that US/UK/Israel frames Iran/Palestine; and they might have more support from the EU than ever suspected. As a matter of fact, maybe US/UK/Israel, the EU, Russia and China will just decide to "settle their differences" and and carve up Iran among themselves.
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I have a creepy feeling that they will stage a a 1-2-3 punch. I think the number 3 is a "good luck" Satanic number; and Boosh keeps talking about "Trifectas."
They need to convince the Israeli people, the American people and at least one European country that Iran should be attacked.
Ideally they will stage these attacks around the time the Iranian oil bourse opens and Iran switches to the Euro; or around the time of the Israeli elections which will be a good time for Israel to distract its citizens.
However, the PTB do like to follow their Masonic Satanic numerology timetable. They could stage the actual invasion no later than 6/6/06 (666). They are pathologically amusing that way. They like to leave their "signature" on all their manufactured terrorist events.
In Europe, my guess is they will pick France because it was hit earlier this year with manufactured "Muslim" riots; so the French populace is primed. They also have the largest Jewish population in Europe. France was the country who most opposed the US invasion of Iraq. There are all kinds of possibilities for detonations anywhere along its extensive rail system there. I don't think they will try a metro bombing ... to much like London. There is the age old rivalry between France and Germany for dominance in the EU. So France will "take the fall."
I think the Germans will play it "both ways". They are in bed with the Russians. They have cut a deal to have Russia build an oil pipeline to supply Western Europe directly. So Germany will pull a "no contest" but will abet the EU covertly.
Russia is also building a pipeline to China. Russia has also supplied Iran with the Sunburn missile, which is a tehnology that the US doesn't have. Iran has also built a oil pipeline to Russia. Russia and China have threatened retaliation against the US if it invades Iran. Russia has also threatened to shut off oil to Western Europe.
China has said she doesn't really care who provides her with oil as long as the source is not disrupted. So does she really care if Iran supplies her the oil directly or if it is supplied to her by US-controlled Iranian puppets.
Iran has threatned to use its Sunburn missiles against Israel if they attack first, so the question is, "Will Israel stage a false flag attack against its own people and blame Iran and Palestinian?"
Which brings me to my next scenario:
There will be synthetic terrorist attack in Israel (probably Tel Aviv); and it would happen around the time of the Israeli elections. They might even assassinate one of their more moderate candidates, like Acting Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, to make way for Bibi, the rabid attack dog who believes in nuking first and exercising the "Sampson Option" should the worst case scenaro occur.
After all "word" has it that the Mossad poisoned Sharon because he was too "moderate." He is not expected to recover; and they will finish him off after the elections have been "decided." Israel will claim that Hamas is the culprit and it is being aided by "al Quaeda" operatives from Iran.
Now you and I know that "al Quaeda" is nothing but a US/Israel/MI6 psy ops creation, but do the Israeli or American public know this?
As for the 9112B in the US, it will most probably be a "dirty nuke" attack since Boosh, our "esteemed" leader, keeps remindnig us that Iran is a "nuclear threat." Hence Boosh will have to use a dirty nuke. I think they will attack a nuclear plant on the West Coast. I have heard that there is one that actually sits on the San Andreas fault line.
And to make matters more "interesting" there is a joint venture between the "scientists", the corporatists and US officials to drill into the San Andreas fault line to study (sic) seismic activity. Would't this be a nifty place to plant a dirty nuke. Then they could create an earthquake using their EM weaponized weather technology. During the earthquake, they would detonate the dirty nuke.
If you think this is the wildest of fantasies, check it out. They are drilling along the San Andreas faultline:
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2002/july10/pilothole-710.html
If a "natural" disaster like an earthquake occurs, the victims won't notice that a nuke has been detonated. Everyone will be in a state of panic and just beg Boosh to establish martial law and a police state to protect them (which is why Boosh staged the fake terror attack in the first place).
We will give up all our liberties (not that any are left now) and rights to privacy. We will be microchipped, hauled off to concentration camps, and all dissedents will be executed as "terrorists." The government will create a global pandemic using its latest bio-engineered micoplasma. We will be forced to take tainted vaccines that are meant to protect us in the short term but will kill us later on. The global elite in 2002 passed secret legislation called "Operation Global Cleanse." They want to "cull the herd." It's global genocide for "fun and profit"
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/mycoplasma.html
_http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcnsaglobal2000report10mar81.shtml
And they have an incredible range of weapons which can literally destroy your mind:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786715618/102-1631298-2759305
http://www.defensetech.org/peoplezapping.pdf
The end result is that US/UK/Israel frames Iran/Palestine; and they might have more support from the EU than ever suspected. As a matter of fact, maybe US/UK/Israel, the EU, Russia and China will just decide to "settle their differences" and and carve up Iran among themselves.
*edit by mod* deactivated link
Ruth
The Living Force
Uh Oh! How about the next Reichstag fire? I found this on the internet.
Al-Qaida Vows Attacks After Foiled Bid
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060226/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_explosion
No-one's going to expect them to attack Israel after they've been so 'busy' killing Arabs, are they?
Its a pity its too late to stop this. The majority of the worlds population still believes that Al-Qaida are moslem (Arab) extremists when they are most likely, in fact, an organisation funded by governments who play a pivotal role in US and Israel foreign policy (Oh yes). Government funded terrorism or as the Israelis put it 'War by deception'. They make idiots of us all and victims of the rest.
Al-Qaida Vows Attacks After Foiled Bid
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060226/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_explosion
No-one's going to expect them to attack Israel after they've been so 'busy' killing Arabs, are they?
Its a pity its too late to stop this. The majority of the worlds population still believes that Al-Qaida are moslem (Arab) extremists when they are most likely, in fact, an organisation funded by governments who play a pivotal role in US and Israel foreign policy (Oh yes). Government funded terrorism or as the Israelis put it 'War by deception'. They make idiots of us all and victims of the rest.