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By "Fighting disinformation..." they mean claiming every pro-Russia statement as a fake news. Ofc we can't know it for sure, but there are already proofs that the woman whose face was used by msm is not a real victim. Btw, we all know how media operate, so I'd be actually surprised if this beautiful photoshoot wasn't staged.Polish top-level DNS registrar started to fight disinformation. They started a list of profiles that are spreading false information:
Their Twitter profile is also posting infographics with posts marked as disinformation. For example, the one below is more or less a statement made by Putin when the operation started. RT and Sputnik seem to be banned on DNS level by my network provider (workaround is to use CloudFlare), RT disappeared from the cable TV.
Excuse me, what is this nonsense? Your thoughts have nothing to do with the reality of what is happening between Russia and Ukraine.
Before reading the following, I am not adding to political understanding, just recalling personal time spent in Moscow in 1990. So no need to read all this, memories of an old woman looking back!
Excuse me, what is this nonsense? Your thoughts have nothing to do with the reality of what is happening between Russia and Ukraine.
You know that I am from Russia and you know that I was extremely negative about Putin until very recently. But even I have to admit that:
1) NOT Putin organized a military conflict in the Donbas, but the militarists of Ukraine
2) IT IS NOT Putin who has been killing Russians (thousands of civilian victims, including 110 children) in the Donbass for EIGHT years, but the militarists of Ukraine
3) NOT Putin BOYCOTTED the Minsk agreements for eight years, but the militarists of Ukraine.
4) It must be admitted that Putin turned out to be an EXTREMELY patient person who tried to PEACELY negotiate with the militarists of Ukraine all these EIGHT years.
5) In 2022, in January and February, Putin gave another 1,000,000,000 chances to negotiate a PEACEFUL agreement with Ukraine, but they didn’t even want to hear him. Instead, the militarists of Ukraine began to kill even more civilians in the Donbas, using RZSO and heavy weapons prohibited by all conventions.
6) After all 1000000000 requests of Putin to negotiate peacefully with Ukraine were IGNORED, he gave a few more chances to end everything peacefully - to no avail.
7) A few days before the start of the military operation on February 24, Putin WARNED the EU, USA, NATO that Russia wants to STOP the Russian genocide in Ukraine. - We saw how European embassies were hastily transferred from Kyiv to the very west of Ukraine, to Lvov. Putin let them all leave in peace, because. he didn't want victims. There was no "aggressive and lightning-fast" strategy for Russia, because. many have been informed about what will be and when it will be
8) After the start of the special operation, Russia GUARANTEED life to every Ukrainian soldier if he laid down his arms. Civilians were carefully guarded, trying to minimize the number of victims as much as possible. This is unprecedented humanism in the history of military conflicts. We have seen the Americans and NATO carpet-bomb the territories they invade. None of this is even close now in Ukraine.
9) After Russia practically encircled Kyiv, PUTIN TWICE STOPPED his troops and REQUESTED peace talks to stop the war, still trying to avoid unnecessary casualties.
Russia does not and never had a goal to destroy Ukraine or take it at any cost in a short time, destroying the population.
It seems to me that you there in the West are very fond of "goals" and "doctrines", forgetting about people. Everything that is happening there now, of course, is a tragedy.
At the moment, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation says that Ukraine is completely cut off from the Sea of Azov.
www.zerohedge.com
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Seeing all the lies is FUN despite the context in which we are... one or another false video has been uploaded (myself included), but it seems to me that the noise has decreased and at least it is not categorically affirmed that certain videos are true, I think that almost no one, for example, believed enough in the Nazi photo of Zelensky and it was more like a game, we have come a long way to doubt now or not to try to see things more coldly... the general analysis of the situation and how the reality of this world IS, it is more or less clear.An observation on my part which will not be welcomed by some I am sure. Plus a few questions to ponder:
The vibe of this thread at the moment is decidedly one of biases coming through loud and clear. Surprising, but then again I am freshly back on focus about all things C related.
To a certain extent, I get it as conflict almost always stirs up passions in human beings, even when they are not directly involved in said conflict. Human beings generally do not sit on sidelines and stay quiet, they express and or get involved. That said, human beings are generally speaking easily triggered by events that are actually beyond their control to in any way influence.
It is an important topic for sure, and worthy of attention and discussion. But it feels a bit nonsensical to me for so many posts centered on trying to pitch clearly faked screen shots, videos, reports from various unknowns who are clearly running a 15 minutes of fame performance, media, simply because if fits their own viewpoint.
Is it really necessary to post clearly faked photos? What purpose does that serve, other than perhaps self validation of personal feelings on the conflict?
Is it necessary to be so easily triggered by efforts on all sides right now to try to spin a biased narrative? How does that help cool things down and support an end to the conflict? Or is it that the conflict is being rooted for and cheered on from deep inside peoples hearts, which does come across in some posts?
One thing I have always admired about the work Laura and team have persistently done over the years is staying focused on the work at hand, and early on putting up a philosophical wall about war and conflict not being what Cassiopaea is about. So why are we transplanting the conflict into what feels like a running series of tit-for-tat photo competitions here at Cassiopaea? Is this really the focus here now days? I don't believe so, but given current observations, I think it is a fair question to ask.
I encourage everyone to be mindful that intelligence services are feverishly at work trying to pull and spin the public in all different directions. In the modern era of internet connectivity conflict via memes and drama is being weaponized to extend the conflict from local ground events to worldwide. Let me give two examples to convey my concern here:
Example 1: the now famous short video of Zelensky saying he does not need a ride, he needs weapons really wound up the thread. Did you ever stop to consider that it was either CIA or MI6 that set that all up? Think about it for a few minutes, before reacting, and let me explain. The whole world was waiting to see if Zelensky would skip town and leave Ukrainians to their own fate. A perfect platform of expectation to run a propaganda play. By setting this up so it was on video and easily and widely propagated, it sent two clear messages into the world: 1) he's no quitter, and he stands and leads his country (aka no repeat of Afghanistan last year). 2) it is a platform for reaching the world with appeals for help in defending their country. They made him effectively a hero (or fool, depending on ones personal viewpoint and side taking in the conflict) They created a symbol of defiance and fortitude and it immediately energized the Ukrainian people to dig in and resist.
Example 2: the photo, clearly photoshopped, of Zelensky allegedly holding up a soccer shirt with a nazi symbol on it. I mean, really? It was quickly debunked with evidence that it was photoshopped, which is a credit to some members in the discussion. The real question though is what exactly made it feel good to simply put that up, as is, without first veifying if it was true or disinformation? I don't know the specific sourcing, but it is obvious to me that there was one or more intelligence services behind pushing this out into the internet. It poor quality leads me to believe though it was by 3rd party actors sponsored by FSB interests, as it completely fits the current Putin narrative.
While actual discussion and assessing the current conflict is fine in my view, as it needs serious discussion, the current high energy observed in folks scouring the internet and media to find stories, reports, opinions, and personalities that they can then disparage and make fun of, seems wasted energy. It is also playing directly into the hands of the controllers, because they actually want human on human conflict, at all levels, and most especially the soft perpetual conflicts via internet.
Consider this please (or don't, free will after all): The internet is a two edged sword, meaning that it can be used for positive or negative motives. It requires more mindful consideration than just allowing it to tug on each persons personal feelings, emotions, and triggers (we all have them after all). Do you want the internet to control you, or do you want to be in control of the internet (from a personal participation perspective). Is the internet nourishment for you, or is it more like candy for the emotions?
I have no skin in this conflict, so please do not mistake my comments for someone who is taking sides here. I'm not. It is painful to watch needless destruction and loss of life, at least for me. It's painful to see some people demonstrate glee about it. I don't live in Europe, so I am not a participant in all the various historically driven nationalistic energies I see now days in Europe. We have our hands full in the US with all the silly circular never ending soft conflicts between various factions, so I understand that it is a reality in human nature. The whole world is a train wreck for the most part at the moment and this conflict may trigger a broader conflict if all parties do not keep themselves grounded. Is that what you want to feed with your energies? Are we on a path to worship Kali or something?
Thanks for listening. Cheers.
Understood.
Which is actually what inspired my latest comment.
It is not over, but it could not be any other way, I do not believe that Putin believed that he was really going to leave NATO in a bad light in the eyes of all, the veil will take time to fall and it is part of the lessons of many, in others it will never fall ... regarding Putin's mind control, the idea also crossed my mind, but due to the actions of the Russian army I really think it's just a difficult situation and they are handling it very professionally... the events of this world have to advance, we will not always be in such comfortable or easy positions... in any case, keep your mind open.Understood.
I am under no illusions at all about the manipulation at hand by the controllers.
Everything right now is smoke and mirrors. And it is escalating, which is a concern. Fog of war is alive and well on the net, as it is on the field.
I expect one of Putin's objectives here was to further undermine Nato and the broader EU. But it appears to have had the opposite effect.
Once he rattled his rhetorical nuclear saber, things really moved quickly and EU nations closed ranks (even Germany). And the Swiss stepped off of their long standing neutrality as well and took a side which is astonishing.
This is speculation on my part of course but observing Putin in the lead up to the conflict appeared almost as if he was under a mind control influence of some kind. This leads me to believe that the controllers are working all sides of this particular conflict for outcomes that have nothing at all to do with Ukraine, or Russia, or EU. They want absolute control of all the playing pieces and use a wide range of sophisticated methods to do so. It is one of the reasons I am advising caution about following and propagating the disinformation candy that is proliferating across the internet right now. The controllers are working all the angles on this one, and that could mean some rather drastic outcomes.
If however Putin is serious with his nuclear posturing, then that should give everyone pause. If I lived in EU right now, I would be checking my Go-Kit and emergency supplies, and be ready for anything. Even a limited nuclear exchange (Ukraine has no nukes) between parties would effectively crush the world economy in the side effects.
The uncharacteristically slow advance by the Russian forces, in spite of many weeks of preparation and Ukraine taking active measures to slow their progress, leads me to believe that the Russian military leadership might be less enamored with their orders, but still must follow them. By this I mean there are many ways to slow-walk military action and maneuver to the extent they can get away with it without being ordered removed from command and shot.
Hee Grape. We want to know what is happening. If there is something i think is missing, i will add that.Thanks for listening. Cheers.
Nobody really ever wants to desert and even more so with a climate of so much uncertainty and promises... that the operation had to be fast in all its phases is misinformation, because we don't know... until now it differs a lot from this:
