Vincent Bridges, Jay Weidner and Gang - Web Pathology

Re: Dan Winter

Hi Mra,

I noticed you metion issues with sleeping. There is a bit of research here about the benefits of Melatonin if you look it up in a search of the forum. I don't know that it is the sure fire cure for helping you get some sleep but it does work for me. Here is a back of the bottle description from the brand I am currently consuming off and on:

3mg (dose per pill) Naturol (brand) Melatonin (what it is)

Melatonin Support healthy sleep patterns. The body naturally releases melatonin in response to changes in light, with melatonin levels rising at night. It is in this way that melatonin helps promote sleep. (not exactly sure I understand what all that means..)

There is a "warning" about if your taking tranquilizers or sedatives a person should consult with their doctor before using it.

Hopefully that is somewhat helpful, certainly there is much more discussed on the forum. Here is something that is titled Melatonin in the topic line. http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=314

Salutes!
 
Re: Dan Winter

Mra said:
ark said:
Mra said:
Lol, you say Vincent Bridges is a known psychopath, i know nothing about him so i can't judge, i know from general reading that you've had trouble with the individual, i even stubled on his site, cursing your names lol.
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You know nothing about him? Too bad. You are not a very good searcher :) His name is listed, for instance, here:

http://danwinter.com/corrnote.html

More info is at the web page:

http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley2.htm

etc.
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You're subjective opinion mate...
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Mra, did you bother to READ the material in the links given above? Their is more than "subjective opinion" there. In fact, I think it would be best if you read up on the forum and the links provided within this thread (especially Wave and Adventures series) before continuing on with this thread.
 
Re: Dan Winter

mra, there was no flaming, mini or otherwise. If you can point out what you perceived as such, it would help. And you weren't "attacked" either, and this group is not in a habit of attacking anyone. But as you yourself said, this is a subjective perception, but what is important is the objective reality. Some people perceive that they are being attacked all the time by everybody, and live a miserable existence as a result of this distorted perception, but that doesn't make it true. I also did not see any elitism in this thread, or pointed towards new members. Again, if you can point out specifically where you perceived this it would help.
 
Re: Dan Winter

Scio said:
I understand this STS tactic to have to do with coincidences and "synchronous" events that prompt you to make a certain choice over another choice - things that don't directly related to the necessary data to make the choice itself.

It’s all a big mess. So it's up to us to discern what comes from where, and make the right decision, osit.And knowledge of STO/STS helps/protects in this regard, as does all other knowledge in general.
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If what is true for today is based on knowledge, perception and experience, then syncs or coincidences are just a distraction. Sometimes, someone says something and you have a moment of clarity that lets the light in, so to speak. Discern for yourself...Thanks for the observations!

Meg

Edit: Today, while reading some from an Intro to Gurdieff's life & work (Shirley) it occurred to me that coincidence & syncs could also be consciousness or collective consciousness. Maybe then, syncs, signs or coincidences should be considered when deciphering and seeking.
 
Re: Dan Winter

hi MRA,

it is good to see you getting involved on the SOTT forum - I'm quite encouraged that we now have a few youngsters around, though of course that brings in a whole new set of issues. a healthy sign, IMO, is that you are not being overly defensive - you've been around a couple of months and I hope you have seen how that goes when someone goes into a defensive / justifying / self-important ever decreasing spiral. always apply 'external consideration' when posting, and you'll get on fine.

if you are making any progress you WILL feel the resistance of the general-law pushing back on you to keep you in your place. something that I wrote to myself in my journal the other day, to help preserve my own sanity:
always remember, when in the low-cycle, ALWAYS remember that it is only brain chemicals, and that "this too will pass".
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btw, 'the Wave' really is essential reading, if you haven't got to that yet.
 
Re: Dan Winter

henry said:
Disnfo artist. We met him and he admitted to us after being asked by Ark why he was doing his work that it was to make money.
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Also notice the structure of the website. It is the most CHAOTIC accumulation of sketches, words and links I ever saw! Notice the low content-to-words ratio. Red flag-keywords for me are today: BlissTuner, HeartTuner, Measuring Compassion, etc. A few years ago however, I was sucked into this mess. But, projecting all hebrew letters from one 3D phi spiral continues to be most intriguing to me!
 
Jay Weidner - Plagiarist

Thought I would document the following:

From: Laura Knight-Jadczyk
To: <jayweidner@************>
Subject: question
Date sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:27:31 +0200



Hi,

Recently a reader forwarded to me a comment you placed on amazon as
follows:

(begin quote from reader)
Last week on Amazon site, I noticed Jay Weidner posted a recent
comment on your review for Fulcanelli's "Le Mystere des Cathedrales"
on Oct 1, 2007:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2PBY8BKLPAR94/ref=cm_cr_dp_cmt/103-6541574-7429435?%5Fencoding=UTF8&ASIN=0914732145

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Jay C. Weidner says:
Laura Knight-Jadczyk takes most of her information for this review
from the book I co-authored Mysteries of the Great Cross of Hendaye:
Alchemy and the End of Time and then ends the review with an
advertisment for a book on Fulcanelli by Patrick Riverie that she
has self-published through her own company Red Pill Press. I
wouldn't mind so much that she takes most of her information from my
book without credit but she then has the temerity to attack me and
call me names on her website. I think her review should be removed
because it is just a way for her to get free advertising on Amazon.

(end quote)

Now Jay, there are two points I want to make. The first one is that
obviously, you have never read my book "The Secret History of the World" or
you would not make so ignorant a statement. There is absolutely nothing
even closely related to the nonsense in that book written by Vinnie in my
book.

Which leads to the second point:

You know as well as I do that Vincent Bridges plagiarized the hell out of my
work - and the Cs - in the writing of that book your name is attached to.
You also know that I have emails on file from you admitting that you had
almost nothing to do with the writing of the book.

To refresh your memory, have a look at these pages:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/julyletters5.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters2.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters3.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters4.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters5.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters6.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters7.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters8.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/mostletters9.htm

And then, for an archive of the correspondence between you and I - which is
very revealing about the writing of "your" book:

http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley2.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley3.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley3a.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley3b.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley3b2.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley3c.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley4.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley5.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley5a.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley6.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley6a.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/wiley6b.htm

And then, of course, there is this:
http://www.cassiopaea.com/archive/maynerd-most-scam.htm

Now, in trying to find a balance between the evident fact that the truth
needs to be told and consideration for you and your interests considering
the fact that you have repeatedly stated that you have been royally taken by
Bridges and gang and wish to be "divorced" from any relationship with him, I
have pretty much left these pages alone, with pseudonyms, etc, so that they
would fade into the background. As one neurosurgeon said to another "If you
don't lobotomy, I won't loboto-you."

However, since I am really bored with this kind of sniping nonsense and your
general two-faced instability, (long ago gave up any idea that we could ever
work together), let me just say that all this detente could change in the
twinkling of an eye. I could very easily restore the real names of all the
concerned parties not only all throughout the text of all the above pages,
but also in the titles of the pages that appear on google. I could also
write an article about the whole plagiarism nonsense and produce the
evidence cited above, from your mouth and Vinnie's mouth - hyperlinked and
everything - and invite the reader to read both books and judge for
themselves. I could even post the entire text of AMET on the net to make
this easier for the reader since I have a doc copy sent to me by Vinnie long
ago. And, since our readership is growing to the tens of thousands daily,
it would reach a pretty wide audience.

I don't think that will help your attempts to bring home the metaphysical
(or material) bacon.

What do you think?

You always did have a good feel for which side of the bread the butter was
on. It used to be Vinnie, and you lied and sold a potential true friend
down the river for thirty pieces of silver and a domain name. Well,
nowadays, Vinnie is spiralling even deeper into nobody-hood and has made a
laughing-stock of himself among serious researchers with his antics on GLP.
So how long are you going to try to play both sides against the middle?
Especially since the middle seems to be you...

Think about it and let me know how you wish to proceed.

Best,

Laura K-J
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Jay Weidner - Plagiarist

Ah, rats. Seems that I have to purchase the book on Amazon,
before being allowed to reply to Jay Weidner's posting. Someone
should reply and add the link to this forum and make a note that
J. Weidner's post is OFF TOPIC, has an ulterior motive to push his
book and claims, and should be removed from the review pages.

I would say something like:
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A fascinating book! An interesting interpretation into the world of the alchemist
(or hermeticist) and the "green language" that is/was written to "hide the message
within" like "The layers of the onion", intended specifically for the adept trained by
a master.

Read for yourself and don't take my word for it.

It is my opinion that Jay Weidner, has somewhat admitted that he had very little to
do with the initial work: "Great Cross of Hendaye" and was most likely created and
plagiarized by Maynard Most, a known scammer/swindler, had troubles with the law
according to the correspondences between himself, Maynard Most and and Laura
Knight-Jadczyk.

Judge for yourself with the following forum
link: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=7398.msg52492#msg52492

One has to wonder of Mr. Weidner's ulterior motives in trying to push his claims/book here,
which is OFF TOPIC. His comment/thread should be removed from this review, OSIT.
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Jay Weidner - Plagiarist

I would replace the pseudonym "Maynerd Most" with his real name, Vincent Bridges.
 
Jay Weidner - Plagiarist

Jay and Vinnie at least seem to have two talents: relentless stupidity and putting their foot in their mouths. Keep up the good work fellas. You're the best free advertising LKJ has, at least IMHO.
 
Jay Weidner - Plagiarist

The main things that Jay considers to be "his research" is his interpretation of the message of the "Cross at Hendaye" and his identification of Fulcanelli. I rejected both of these conclusions from the beginning because they did not "feel right." I didn't have any conclusions myself, but I knew that the Cross at Hendaye did not "point" to Cuzco, Peru, as they write in their book, nor was Fulcanelli who they described. At the time, I didn't know enough about what they claimed to be the third book of Fulcanelli, "The Architecture of Nature" to draw a conclusion, but after having many discussions with Patrick Riviere and learning a lot more about Fulcanelli, I realize that they were just blowing hot air, acting like experts when they were not.

We brought Jay and Vinnie's book to the attention of the alchemical community in France just to get some feedback. Here is what Patrick Riviere wrote in his book on Fulcanelli about their "take" on the issue:

Patrick Riviere said:
A Monument to Subjectivity

The book Monument to the End of Time, subtitled Alchemy, Fulcanelli, and the Great Cross, by the American team of Jay Weidner and Vincent Bridges, presents a different problem. Weidner and Bridges, unlike Mme Dubois, have the insight to realize that Fulcanelli was a real person, and their enthusiasm indicates that they understand that his work is important. Unfortunately, they do not appear to quite understand what that work is. This could be due to the fact that they do not have access to the broader research that is only available in French.

As an example of whether they understand what the great Alchemist really meant, they go so far as to suggest that the work The Architecture of Nature, published in 1943 during the height of the Second World War, could be the third volume by Fulcanelli, Finis Gloriae mundi! In it, they smell "a whiff of the authentic voice, the Fulcanelli of Le Mystere". (p.25-26) Why do they specify Le Mystere? Because they have been 'disappointed' by the Master's second tome, Dwellings of the Philosophers, a book they say "is uneven, without the internal coherence and brilliant symbolic by-play found in Le Mystere... The voice that seemed to know so much in Le Mystere is here hesitant and unclear." (p. 25)

The problem with symbols is that they offer different interpretations to different viewers depending on what is within the viewer. We suggest a simple explanation for the disappointment sprung from the apparent discrepancy: that if they believe the symbolism of the two works is so different and utterly lacking in the second book, perhaps our two American friends have completely misunderstood the symbolism of the first volume, the one they praise so highly. Their decoding of the Cross at Hendaye illustrates this point, for one would be stretching symbolic interpretation to the point of pure subjectivity to claim any references in Fulcanelli to the Cube of Space! They end up rejecting one book, Dwellings, that is known to be by the Adept and associate him with a book with which he had nothing to do! True alchemists recognize in Dwellings of the Philosophers a book rich in its descriptions of the Great Work.

As to the identity of the Adept, their forensic expertise leads them to speculate that he may have been "an immortal or very long lived individual" (p. 242) perhaps living for two hundred years, because "an in depth textual analysis of Le Mystere des Cathedrals reveals evidence that Fulcanelli was born and educated in the 18th century"! (p. 237) We leave the reader to follow the implications of such an in-depth analysis and consider what this might suggest about the validity of the rest of their interpretation.

Before returning to our own investigation, we cannot let pass their characterization of the faithful student, Eugene Canseliet, as "a young occult upstart"! (p. 21)

Nevertheless, again we note their insight and enthusiasm for Fulcanelli which is encouraging. But, tu use an American phrase to describe the end result: "With friends like this, who needs enemies?"
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So, since we completely disagree on about every point about Fulcanelli, what he said, what was meant by what he wrote, etc, I really can't imagine why Weidner wants to insist that I "stole" his research!!!!

In the cited correspondence, I even tried to explain to him why he was on a false trail with the Cuzco thing because the Guaman Poma work has been analyzed and shown to not be what he claims it is, but he just couldn't hear what I was saying.
 
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