Session 13 January 2024

[xahyr]

Oh, and if sunlight hits the dew water, the increase in the number of bacteria in said water would be very rapid thanks to the action of the sun.

Thank you for your comments!
Likewise, the idea of working with the dew is to operate with a material conceived under the rays of the moon (polarized light), since the famous spiritus mundi permeates the air and must be collected on full moon nights with clear sky of clouds and a light wind (8-10 km).
But it is a complex and tedious process that does not always come to a good end, as you say, in those times maybe it was a way to obtain a pristine matter, but in the last five centuries we have learned a little chemistry and we know what is desired to obtain and there are other simpler ways to reach the same result without falling into dogmas or unnecessary rituals that were more a "filter" to keep away the rascals and blowers....
Hug

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

Your interpretation is also valid (if you adhere to the idea that alchemy is just a psychological discipline and flowery talk that alludes to the oniric/internal world).
It must be taken into account that each discipline has a context, a language that is its own (in addition to an internal representation system). And in the case of alchemical literature it is equivocal, multiple interpretations are allowed (mind, matter, psyche, energy).

I give a case: Fulcanelli, in his books he gives the recipe for a "particular." I know a couple of Brothers who brought it to a happy outcome.
And in fact, he has fragmented his Great Work (material operation) along the route of each cathedral. And he has shouted that Antimony is NOT the material of the Work ("his" Work).
What no one can understand is WHY his "disciple" Canseliet turned to the Dry Way of Antimony (starry martial regulus). One wonders if your Master says something clearly, why contradict him? In the case of Patrick Rivière (a disciple of E. Canseliet), he taught operative alchemy & spagyrics, and exhibited videos of him performing physical transmutations with the "Fire Stone" of Basilius Valentin (the supposed "teacher" of Fulcanelli)

Then, it is possible to apply it as a personal development system, or an operational practice. It is not exclusive: each one applies it in the internal, external or metaphysical world. I take it as the practical application of an esoteric teaching.
For example, the idea of "dew" can also be read as vulgar urine, or the Earth's "inspiration/breathing" process, from which some interesting salt can be harvested..
I wouldn't recommend drinking the unfiltered dew, nowadays (500 years after "Mutus Liber") there is a lot of pollution, bugs, etc. Although there are reports of French peasants who have prolonged their lives past 100 by drinking dew every morning, I would not dare to suffer from severe diarrhea (as a colleague told me).

In my personal case, I have collected "November dew". Not from May, because here in the southern hemisphere the seasons are inverted, so you see that the operation must be adapted to local conditions...
Hug

Everything related to alchemy is not of my interest, but when I thought about what you said about dew water I started to think.

Basically dew water is distilled water and today there are devices that use distilled water in their operation and no other kind of water.

They are air humidifiers.

The health properties are evident in the use of these devices and they require distilled water to avoid bacteria and minerals in the air to breathe.

When those exclusive books were written, the best distilled water would be dew (nowadays too if everything wasn't contaminated).

It is fascinating to read about those topics that you talk about and not understand anything (and I don't care if I understand it).

I think it is a metaphor for something that occurs externally in the dew that can also occur in a similar way internally in the human body (it has to do with electromagnetic-sound phenomena)... in this case it would not be necessary to collect or drink the Dew.

 

[xahyr]

I think it is a metaphor for something that occurs externally in the dew that can also occur in a similar way internally in the human body (it has to do with electromagnetic-sound phenomena)... in this case it would not be necessary to collect or drink the Dew.

I agree, as I commented above, it all depends on the interpretative framework. What we know as alchemy may be a remnant (corrupted or adulterated) of a lost knowledge of the Golden Age....
My personal approach is quantitative and practical.

The dew is not the matter itself, but what it carries in its womb. It is necessary to catch the little fish that swims in the Philosophical Sea... Adept Fulcanelli uses in his Work the salt of the dew (in the proportions he describes). I know a couple of people who claim to have followed Ariadne's Thread and have penetrated the labyrinth of his two famous books and reproduced the process that is fragmented into pieces. For me, that is enough. Everything that is reproducible and works is ok. If it doesn't, it's no good....
As I understand it, most of the books and treatises on alchemy have to be thrown away (they are useless), or they only serve to dazzle people like C. Jung who in turn absorbed it into their own frame of thought, and started talking about weird things like the collective unconscious.... He may have been inspired by the allegorical system of representation in some of the works of the Middle Ages, but that is NOT alchemy. (He went off topic.)

Sounds interesting what you say! What would the EM/Sound thing be like? Is it a kind of technology to be developed? Can it be applied in an active meditation? What can you say about that?
Hug.

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

I agree, as I commented above, it all depends on the interpretative framework. What we know as alchemy may be a remnant (corrupted or adulterated) of a lost knowledge of the Golden Age....
My personal approach is quantitative and practical.

The dew is not the matter itself, but what it carries in its womb. It is necessary to catch the little fish that swims in the Philosophical Sea... Adept Fulcanelli uses in his Work the salt of the dew (in the proportions he describes). I know a couple of people who claim to have followed Ariadne's Thread and have penetrated the labyrinth of his two famous books and reproduced the process that is fragmented into pieces. For me, that is enough. Everything that is reproducible and works is ok. If it doesn't, it's no good....
As I understand it, most of the books and treatises on alchemy have to be thrown away (they are useless), or they only serve to dazzle people like C. Jung who in turn absorbed it into their own frame of thought, and started talking about weird things like the collective unconscious.... He may have been inspired by the allegorical system of representation in some of the works of the Middle Ages, but that is NOT alchemy. (He went off topic.)

Sounds interesting what you say! What would the EM/Sound thing be like? Is it a kind of technology to be developed? Can it be applied in an active meditation? What can you say about that?
Hug.

Look at my couple of comments on page 31 of this thread (one of them long) where I am largely guided by the analysis of the mutus liber by Canseliet.

 

[Voyageur]

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) announced today the completion of its acquisition of Arena Pharmaceuticals, a clinical stage company developing innovative potential therapies for the treatment of several immuno-inflammatory diseases.
Arena’s pipeline also includes two development-stage cardiovascular assets: temanogrel for microvascular obstruction and Raynaud's phenomenon secondary to systemic sclerosis, and APD418 for acute heart failure.

Right, that was acquired December 13, 2021 before the mass rollup you sleeve to win mandates, or coercion rollouts (based on pre-trials as a business risk analysis - a go get em both ways).

Arena (with Aristea as a partner) closed the deal for near 7 billion, and not long after:

Pfizer kicks newly acquired meds out of Arena as part of midstage cleaning

Pfizer has taken the broom to three midstage medicines from the acquisition of Arena Pharmaceuticals, deciding that etrasimod alone was worthy of the biotech’s $6.7 billion price tag. | Pfizer is axing a handful of midstage medicines, most of which stemmed from the company's acquisition of Arena...

www.fiercebiotech.com

Pfizer immediatly:

scooped up Arena for $6.7 billion in December 2021, the start of an aggressive acquisition spree that’s included Global Blood Therapeutics, Biohaven and, of course, Seagen. Pfizer said on Tuesday’s earnings call that nonetheless, it remains “active in the M&A market.

Pfizer took out a and swept away all but one focus, as Arena stated of its partner:

Aristea dissolved in February after suddenly announcing it was ending the development of the asset to “protect patient safety.” Arista had been developing the drug as a treatment for two separate skin conditions, palmoplantar pustulosis and hidradenitis suppurativa. All the treatments that Pfizer elected to discontinue were in phase 2 development.

and the focus came down to:

The decision to skip other projects that Arena arrived with means that Pfizer is pushing all of its chips toward etrasimod, an inflammatory pipeline {more on that with their new their product} in and of itself. The med is currently in development for five diseases, with an approval application for ulcerative colitis under review by U.S. and European regulators.

etrasimod goes by the trade name VELSIPITY, like serendipity one might suppose.

What could go wrong?

The have a proviso:

It is also important to:​

• Review vaccination records to ensure immunizations are up to date with current guidelines. {Pfizer's so-called vaccine of course}

and a list of warnings.

Do not take VELSIPITY if you:

• have had a heart attack, chest pain (unstable angina), stroke or mini stroke (transient ischemic attack or TIA), and certain types of heart failure requiring hospitalization in the last 6 months
• have or have had a history of unusual heartbeats (arrhythmia) that is not corrected by a pacemaker

Good to know.

Officially:

Pfizer Mission Statement​

“Our mission is to become the world’s most valued company to [patients, customers] {these two might meet the below motto criteria}, colleagues, investors, [business partners] {government taxpayers have been absolutely the best partners}, and the communities where we work and live.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1787943360486895838

A new motto perhaps: With promises from enforced covid despair, we offer future repair. Trust us!