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The Situation In Germany
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Germany will now fine you $10,000 for "misgendering" and allow parents to pick their children's sex AT BIRTH
I regret to inform you that this is, in fact, real life:
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Germany will now fine you $10,000 for "misgendering" and allow parents to pick their children's sex AT BIRTH
I regret to inform you that this is, in fact, real life:
Yes, Germany actually passed this bill which includes a $10,800 fine for deadnaming/misgendering, and allows parents to gender-transition their child at birth.
I cannot believe this is real life.
The Self-Determination Act (SBGG) establishes ‘gender identity' as a protected characteristic and allows parents to change the sex marker on their children's documents from birth.
Supported by Chancellor Olaf Scholz's three-party coalition and promoted and supported by the Socialist Democratic Party (SDP), the SBGG also creates the potential for citizens to be fined up to €10,000 (approx. $10,800 USD) for revealing a person's given name and birth sex without their permission - an action that trans activists staunchly oppose and refer to as ‘deadnaming.'
But arguably the most troubling aspect of the law relates to a portion of the bill which permits parents to alter the recorded sex of children beginning from birth. From the age of five years old, it allows for name and sex changes if there is "mutual consent" between the child and their parents.
A $10,800 fine for misgendering or deadnaming!
There's no way to parody this. They're really writing it into law that you can choose your baby's sex at birth. And of course this has nothing to do with normal sane people who assign their children the correct sex at birth. It's the crazies who want to immediately throw their boy in a dress, or their girl in a "chick magnet" shirt as some sort of sick and twisted science experiment. This law is literally written to protect insane people who are hell bent on creating sociopath children.
More from the story:
According to a description of the bill on the Bundestag's official website, the Self-Determination Act was designed "to implement a core idea of the Basic Law, the protection of gender identity, by giving people the opportunity to change their gender entry and first name without discrimination."
It continues that following a change, a one-year "blocking period" will apply where no further changes are allowed, though a person may change their name and sex once again after the year passes.
If parents choose to do so, they may alter the identifying information of their children from birth. The SBGG stipulates that the consent of a child is necessary from the age of five, and, "from the age of 14, minors can do it themselves, but require the consent of their guardians."
However, should parents refuse to provide legal permission, "a family court would decide based on the best interests of the child," thus allowing the state to overrule the wishes of parents or legal guardians.
Here are the bill's most ardent supporters in parliament:
No surprises there!
Well, good luck, Germany. I can't wait to see (1) how you interpret this law for ordinary European citizens, and (2) how it is interpreted when one of your many African and Middle Eastern immigrants breaks the law.
The law goes into effect in November, so y'all beer drinkers got one last chance to do Oktoberfest the right way.
10 000€ is no joke....
It is fascinating to see the road Germany is on, but at the same time how "late" they are. While it was all the rage in America during the last years, to me it seems that the craziness there started to water down, actually turning more and more people against this whole satanic movement.
And you would think that the German government would pick up on that - but no! They are marching down, yet another, already doomed road.
axj
The Living Force
I agree, most cultural differences have both positive and negative aspects to them.
Germany (and much of Western Europe) was flooded with African and Middle Eastern immigrants probably because it was too peaceful and orderly. More chaos was needed to present the police state and limiting freedom as the "solution". I think something similar is at least part of the reason for the currently open southern US border.
@Mari you are right, it seems like Germany always lacks a few years behind. Which is weird because you see thing playing out in the US, and then you wait for the the German adaption. The self-determination-act is bad enough as it is, the only "good" thing is, that it only allows for changing your gender legally (bad enough, as parents can decide for their young children). At least for now, children need to be 18 years old (of legal age) for gender surgery, 16 years for hormone therapy.
This article is from a press agency but it gives a good overview the self-determination-act. Sometimes I want to know those things are spoken about in mainstream media. It must have been quite the progessive day in parliament, towards the end, the last paragraph summarizes:
For those speaking German, this episode of German podcast Basta Berlin might be fun.
They speak about the act suring the first half. If I remember correctly, they also shortly talk about fines for misgendering, it seems (as always "at least fro now"), that Germany won't go as far as Canada, but who knows, it might be interesting bait to divert conservative sentiment / ourage from other topics.
This article is from a press agency but it gives a good overview the self-determination-act. Sometimes I want to know those things are spoken about in mainstream media. It must have been quite the progessive day in parliament, towards the end, the last paragraph summarizes:
For those speaking German, this episode of German podcast Basta Berlin might be fun.
They speak about the act suring the first half. If I remember correctly, they also shortly talk about fines for misgendering, it seems (as always "at least fro now"), that Germany won't go as far as Canada, but who knows, it might be interesting bait to divert conservative sentiment / ourage from other topics.
Thanks for sharing, they are both hilarious and to the point.
dear ursusminor, of course you are right. but i am a bit of an anarchist and like to counter the politically correct system...
Does anyone knows something about warning on traveling to Germany: "Exercise increased caution in Germany due to terrorism."?
Do "they" know something we don´t?
travel.state.gov
Do "they" know something we don´t?
Germany Travel Advisory
I always exercise increased caution because of rising crime figures, and as people are getting more unpredictable. I generally stay away from tourist locations, large shopping malls and areas where young people congregate.
As a rule I'm praying for a safe ride and general protection.
As there is always a chance for (state) terrorism warnings like these come in handy to ramp up the fear factor.
Yes, me too in the last years.
Ever since I moved to Germany, I felt generally safe here. Even that first huge wave of migrants in 2015 didn't bother me much - I sill felt safe. Until covid. Covid changed that, then came the Ukraine, and now it feels like I'm living in a much different reality.
I also noticed more reports of theft and attacks in my FB feed from a local news agency.
etezete
Dagobah Resident
i agree on a full scale! those weekend-driving-bans will be the last curdle on the economy and society... if they come ... think of all the recreational sites like e g amusement parks, botanical gardens and zoos which have the most busy days on weekends, esp sundays. Also weekends includes saturdays... when you are living in a rural area and work for 5 days a week, then saturday is your grocery and else buying day...
etezete
Dagobah Resident
i just realized that this will be my first dictatorship in this live, IF the road is really the "democracy" THEY want ("democracy" like in Democratic Republic of North Korea....Germany will now fine you $10,000 for "misgendering" and allow parents to pick their children's sex AT BIRTH
I regret to inform you that this is, in fact, real life:
10 000€ is no joke....
It is fascinating to see the road Germany is on, but at the same time how "late" they are. While it was all the rage in America during the last years, to me it seems that the craziness there started to water down, actually turning more and more people against this whole satanic movement.
And you would think that the German government would pick up on that - but no! They are marching down, yet another, already doomed road.
i want to illustrate my above comment with a nice picture:
the girl: whats the problem?? this now legal!
the police: you crossed at the red light...
Starting this evening until tomorrow morning EXTREME levels of rain are expected to fall on large parts of southwest germany. Up to and exceeding 100 Liters per squaremeter are expected to come down in some areas. Those are levels that are comparable to what came down in the Ahrtal a couple of years ago. Which totally devastated areas. The worst is all happening in the middle of the night until the morning hours. That is also what happened in the Ahrtal.
So, I wanted to warn everyone who might be living in the effected areas in Germany, and if possible, would suggest to prepare for the worst case szenario. Just in case. Get away from valleys, and if possible/needed go up as high as you can on mountains with important belongings:
So, I wanted to warn everyone who might be living in the effected areas in Germany, and if possible, would suggest to prepare for the worst case szenario. Just in case. Get away from valleys, and if possible/needed go up as high as you can on mountains with important belongings: