What is this creature? - The Montauk Monster

GRiM

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I tried to spot if its a photoshopped picture but I cant find any traces for that so I thought I´ll ask.
Windowfaller or underground lab-result?
Creepy anyhow.


http://i25.tinypic.com/2rdujyq.png (Just its head so its a little bit gory)
[URL removed from picture]

http://i30.tinypic.com/149vmd.png
[closeup + noise-reduction +color balance]
 

observer

Padawan Learner
What is this creature?

It seems that goldengate.hu is Hungarian porn site. Why would that picture be there?
 

GRiM

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
What is this creature?

observer said:
It seems that goldengate.hu is Hungarian porn site. Why would that picture be there?
Strange, might have been a another site before it became a porn site, I did not download it from there thats for sure. I should have checked before I posted the picture.

But aside from the porn site, it does look real.

Edit: *uploaded a url-less version.
 

anart

A Disturbance in the Force
What is this creature?

There was some discussion about this picture on the net quite awhile ago. It seems it was identified as a dog head - having been 'treated' in some way, though I cannot find the link or information on it at the moment. I'll look again tomorrow to see if I can come up with it - might have been on cryptomundo or another cryptozoology site, if anyone has the time to look.
 

GRiM

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
What is this creature?

anart said:
There was some discussion about this picture on the net quite awhile ago. It seems it was identified as a dog head - having been 'treated' in some way, though I cannot find the link or information on it at the moment. I'll look again tomorrow to see if I can come up with it - might have been on cryptomundo or another cryptozoology site, if anyone has the time to look.
I will try to see if I can find a discussion on any of the sites, but why would they do that? I would think that very little is gained by faking it, money wise.

But there is one thing, there must have been a body attached to the head at some point, were did that go? Might be a clue as it seems to me it would be much harder to fake the body.


Cryptozoology's forum seem to have been taken over by 14-year olds, my head hurts from reading to many bad jokes and incoherent sentences. Could not find it in their picture gallery or the forum, though I might have missed it.
 

Craig

Jedi Master
What is this creature?

Found this: http://www.iwasabducted.com/aliengallery/reptilianhead.htm

Severed Reptilian Alien Head?

This picture depicting what appears to be a severed reptilian alien head was received on 15 September 2003. Interestingly enough, no information accompanied the photo, nor had any been found pertaining to a related incident. It appears that the child holding the stick is lifting the lip of the creature up to further expose the long teeth, an indicator of a carnivorous species.

After a brief investigation, it was learned that this picture was actually created by graphic artist Charlie White. It appears that some disinformation artists got a hold of Charlie's picture and began circulating it on the internet as a genuine alien photo! His work is featured on the Art in Context Center for Communications website and can be found here. This is an excellent example of how modern software programs can be used to create elaborate hoaxes.
More on Charlie White (with some equally great photos):

_http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/white.html
_http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/people/charlie_white.php
_http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1285/is_3_31/ai_71562862

anart said:
There was some discussion about this picture on the net quite awhile ago. It seems it was identified as a dog head - having been 'treated' in some way, though I cannot find the link or information on it at the moment. I'll look again tomorrow to see if I can come up with it - might have been on cryptomundo or another cryptozoology site, if anyone has the time to look.
Got the above from a thread on ATS, which also has a mention about it being a dog's head. But yeah, just the work of another very talented CGI artist... or so it seems. ;)
 

GRiM

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
What is this creature?

Thanks you very much Craig!
That picture was a splinter in my mind, great to be able to file it away under disinformation.
 

Regulattor

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
What is this creature?

Check this out:

_http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/07/the_monster_of_montauk.html
_http://newsblaze.com/story/20080730162002reye.nb/topstory.html
_http://gawker.com/5030531/dead-monster-washes-ashore-in-montauk
_http://hamptons.plumtv.com/blog/whats_going/paging_darwin_montauk_%E2%80%9Csea_monster%E2%80%9D_real_or_photoshop_phantasy

If this is another CGI then I must stop searching for sucha news. There is no way I can tell this is fake. It even got a fly on back side. And why Montauk, hmmm!?
 

observer

Padawan Learner
What is this creature?

Couldn't the color of it's skin suggest a bleedthrough? It seems that its body hair was burned somehow. Also, it looks to me like a same creature from the beginning of this topic.
 

rylek

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
What is this creature?

Here's a bit more on the story.

_http://hamptons.plumtv.com/blog/whats_going/paging_darwin_montauk_%E2%80%9Csea_monster%E2%80%9D_real_or_photoshop_phantasy
UPDATE: 08/02/2008 said:
Following this lead we looked into "eerie" Plum Island and contacted Dr. Larry Barrett, Center Director of Plum Island Animal Disease Center, who was kind enough to supply his take:

"It is impossible to accurately identify the species of animal from the photo. There is no scale from which to judge its size. Additionally, when a body has had prolonged exposure to water and predators, it can be altered or appear different from its normal form. If we had the actual body, we could tell you what it is; however, from viewing a canine tooth in the picture, we could guess it may be a cat or a raccoon. I can state categorically that it is not associated with the work performed at Plum Island Animal Disease Center (PIADC). PIADC serves as the nation's first line of defense against foreign animal diseases of livestock by identifying such diseases through diagnostic testing and by developing vaccines to protect livestock from those diseases."

The mystery thickens ... or does it? Steven T. Papa, a Senior Endangered Species/Federal Projects Biologist for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, has told Plum:

“Based on these higher resolution photos, it appears to be a raccoon based on estimating overall ear length to body length ratio in the photos to measurements found in the literature, as well as lower jaw and front leg characteristics.


This is the best I could do without seeing the ‘animal.’”

Is this monster simply a raccoon, maybe. Hear what the woman behind the lens has to say. Photographer Jenna Hewitt of Montauk, and two companions who also saw the animal, appeared on Plum's "The Juice" to talk monster.
So they say it could be a raccoon, a dog, a cat. Other options are a turtle without a shell or even a capybara (_http://gawker.com/5032597/is-the-montauk-monster-satans-bacon)


Let's see what 'experts' say:


_http://boards.thenest.com/boards/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=53654394&forumid=465

In the Hamptons?Larry Penny, the town's resource director, doesn't think so. (At least about the Montauk Monster.)

"It could be a dog," he said. "Or, looking at the picture, we thought it could be a raccoon that was skinned and has its upper jaw missing."

The elongated paws -- and the presence of trappers in the town -- led him to the conclusion, he said.

But William Wise, director of Stony Brook University's Living Marine Resources Institute, after looking at the photo and consulting with a fellow biologist (who knows land creatures), disagrees.

He knows what it isn't.

A raccoon. ("The legs appear to be too long in proportion to the body.")

A sea turtle. ("Sea turtles do not have teeth.")

A rodent. ("Rodents have two huge, curved incisor teeth in front of their mouths.")

He said the general body shape looks like a dog or other canine ("Coyote?"). But that the "prominent eye ridge and the feet" don't match.

He said the feet and face look "somewhat ovine" -- that would be like a sheep -- but sheep don't have sharp teeth.

Wise's best, educated guess: "A talented someone who got very creative with latex."


In other words, a fake -- which would place Wise with the skeptics. (Many of whom believe the image could have been manipulated with computer software.)

But Wise also offered what he called a next-best guess: "A dog or coyote that was diseased and has been in the sea for a while."
I also found this comment interesting:

_http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/07/the_monster_of_montauk.html

"They say an old guy came and carted it away," she said. "He said, 'I'm going to mount it on my wall.'"
Damage control maybe? In any way if that thing is real, provided it's not a window faller, someone somewhere should watch their 'pets' more carefully:)
 

jonnyopinion

The Force is Strong With This One
Hello/The Montauk Monster

Hello friends. I just joined the forum, though I've been a close reader/listener of/to SOTT for some time.
Did a quick search of the messages and couldn't find much on the "montauk monster" but I apologise if I've missed it...Anyway, does anyone have any thoughts/insight into what it is? Is it fake? Is the fact that it turned up in MONTAUK, of all places, relevant?

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/mm-newpic/

[Moderation: your message has been moved to this topic, you can find a discussion on the Montauk monster in the messages above]
 

Buddy

The Living Force
Re: What is this creature?

Just my thoughts, but what I find interesting is how hard it is to find 'the rest of the story' when pictures such as these show up.

I would imagine that if a person were able to kill a reptilian being or 'exotic monster' such as this or any other, they would be a 'hero' to the local community or area where it was found, or at least there would be some very excited witnesses ready, willing and able to spread the story far and wide with all the facts that go with it.
So, in my mind, the first red flag is the lack of any such story, and that seems enough reason to be suspicious and to suspect it as fake right away. And if a picture of such a being were to be real, you probably wouldn't have to go hunting for it...for the reasons I mentioned above.

-fwiw
 

rylek

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Re: What is this creature?

Well, the Montauk monster now even has it's own Wikipedia entry, which has a quite a few references at the of the entry.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster

One comment that I found interesting in one of the discussions was a mention that it resembles a wingless griffin.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin

Wikipedia said:
The griffin is a legendary creature with the body of a lion and the head and often wings of an eagle. As the lion was traditionally considered the king of the beasts and the eagle the king of the birds, the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature. Griffins are normally known for guarding treasure.[1] In antiquity it was a symbol of divine power and a guardian of the divine.
 
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