Very interesting information, about transgenderism

[Shirannah]

Based on your story, I will admit that it seems that, in some cases, doing the "transgender thing" can be similar to correcting any other kind of birth defect such as cleft palate or spina bifida or deformed ankles or whatever. Especially if not fixing something causes some serious disability or extreme unhappiness.

But it also seems to me that the main issue of unhappiness has to do with sexual function, yes? Because, otherwise, one could simply dress as a woman and conduct life as a women, regardless of birth gender.

Do you mean sexual function, in having sex. With the created vagina. Well there are some very complex issues at hand with that. It all depends on the skill of the surgeon. The anatomy previous to surgery. The healing aspect also play a role. How a person heals. How nerves heal and such. The cosmetic part plays also a role. There are some cases, that all feeling is lost down there after surgery. So that is an issue at hand wich is hard to predict. But there are also many cases that all goes well, and normal feeling down there is retained. There are different techniques used to "create a vagina" one with own skin second with a piece of colon acting as the vaginal depth and wall. Both techniques are not superior and the honest truth is that any sex reassignment surgery is like playing russian roulette. Only in the hands of a skilled surgeon the outcome is more predictable. Almost all transgender woman need some form of cosmetic/functional surgery after "big"surgery is done. Naturally speaking skin that is turned inside the body wich does not belong there. And the body is trying to close it and it is seen as a big wound. Wich it actually is.

The second thing is. such a surgery taking hormones and having any other surgeries done is very traumatic for the body and mind.
You have those people who have a completely unrealistic view in the means to be a woman. Or have a "fantasy"to be on. Do all the things and they afterward their fantasy failed. Such individuals are mentally unstable to begin with so mentally ill.

A woman is not only devined what whats between the legs. Its the whole picture that counts. If someone looks male. You simply cannot change that. And that person will not "pass"as a female. Wich also creates spychological trauma. You can say that i was born with a birth deffect that was corrected. Thats how i view it. But viewing it from the true nature of or reality we simply do not know whatever causes it. Or if this is being done against humanity. What i want to say is this. Its not a simple as Harry becoming Tina, and is unhappy after the transformation. Perhaps the media makes it out like that. But it is not. Why are there very young children being born, and the moment they realize the difference between male and female, they say i feel like a boy or a girl. or I'm a boy or a girl. I was such a case and expressed myself around the age of 5 telling my parents i was a girl and getting angry if i was told i was not.
I have no problems with sexual function or anything related like that. But i think that such a surgery is only needed for the very extreme cases of gender dysphoria . And must be viewed at with a very strict eye. And the reality is, you cannot change a man into a woman or the other way around. But you can express the way you feel. And it should not be called sex change surgery. Because something like that does not exist.

 

[neonix]

In book Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual by William Baldwin, page 39, I found this excerpt:

In a landmark case, the application of an exorcism accomplished what was considered impossible. A young man been under treatment by psychiatrist for several years in preparation for gender-reassignment surgery. Psychotherapy is considered ineffective in reversing the gender dysphoria, the desire for surgery, the transsexualism. During the young man's visit to a physician who was also a Christian, an exorcism was performed and the young man's desire for the surgery and female lifestyle disappeared completely (Barlow, Abel, and Blanchard, 1977).

 

[SevenFeathers]

From when i was born to a very small child, people already thought i was female.

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If people thought you were female, did they make comments to your parents such as, "oh, what a pretty little girl"? And if so, is it possible that those comments caused an "imprint"? Even as a small child, the words were absorbed by your brain even if you didn't understand them at the time. What do you think?

 

[Shirannah]

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If people thought you were female, did they make comments to your parents such as, "oh, what a pretty little girl"? And if so, is it possible that those comments caused an "imprint"? Even as a small child, the words were absorbed by your brain even if you didn't understand them at the time. What do you think?

Not sure about that, but what if they said i was a pretty little boy. I still would switch gender.

 

[Shirannah]

In book Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual by William Baldwin, page 39, I found this excerpt:

That person had to be in the "believe"religion and jezus and god and evil spirits where real. Not happening with me. I'm not possessed in anyway. Sounds to me like those gay convers therapy's . I do believe in evil spirits though. But absolutely not in a religious way.

 

[neonix]

That person had to be in the "believe"religion and jezus and god and evil spirits where real. Not happening with me. I'm not possessed in anyway. Sounds to me like those gay convers therapy's . I do believe in evil spirits though. But absolutely not in a religious way.

I'm not relented with transgender topic in any way. I'm not specialist in this topic. I'm bisexual person and I am able to understand both heterosexual people and homosexual people. I am also very tolerant to transgender people if I see that they are not indoctrinated and they are not impose on somebody.

I don't know why people choose this type of life path, and if someone choose it consciously I don't have problem with that. But if someone choose it unconsciously then maybe I can inspire them for searching the answers.

 

[Laura]

An interesting development:

Here’s What People Who Used To Be Transgender Are Telling The Supreme Court

In an unusual amicus brief, a group of people who used to be transgender say that not only should gender identity not be a protected class, but that it's an imaginary construct of traumatized minds.

What People Who Used To Be Transgender Are Telling SCOTUS

In an unusual amicus brief, a group of people who were once transgender say gender identity shouldn’t be a protected class — or a thing at all.

thefederalist.com

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

An interesting development:

Here’s What People Who Used To Be Transgender Are Telling The Supreme Court

In an unusual amicus brief, a group of people who used to be transgender say that not only should gender identity not be a protected class, but that it's an imaginary construct of traumatized minds.

What People Who Used To Be Transgender Are Telling SCOTUS

In an unusual amicus brief, a group of people who were once transgender say gender identity shouldn’t be a protected class — or a thing at all.

thefederalist.com

That's a very clear and lucid article. I wonder if Twitter and Facebook will get wind of it and what their reactions will be.

 

[anka]

FWIW, this is another side of the matter:

Drugs used as puberty blockers in youth linked to thousands of adult deaths, FDA shows

Drugs that are being used to halt puberty in gender-confused youth have been linked to thousands of adult deaths, government data show.

The Food & Drug Administration has recorded thousands of deaths associated with Lupron, a puberty-blocking drug that is routinely used to treat prostate cancer in men and endometriosis in women. Adverse complications related to its use include breast disorders, malignant neoplasms, and psychiatric and nervous disorders.

Lupron — and other drugs in its class — significantly alters the hormone levels in the body and has been documented to contribute to blood clots and other cardiovascular complications, as well as brittle bones and faulty joints.

Between 2004 and June 30 of this year, the FDA documented 33,478 adverse reactions suffered by patients who took Leuprolide Acetate (Lupron), which is used as a hormone blocker. More than 19,054 reactions were considered "serious," including 6,056 deaths.

The figure rises when factoring in the total number of adverse reactions logged by the FDA since 1984. In total, there have been 40,764 adverse reactions, 25,513 of those were considered "serious," among those were 6,370 deaths.



Lupron is being prescribed off-label for use in children who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria despite the lack of formal FDA approval for that purpose. The drug is clinically approved for treatment of precocious puberty, a condition where children start their pubertal processes at an abnormally early age and the blocker is administered for a short time until the proper age.

"The first well-documented case report of a puberty blocker like Lupron (a similar medication called Triptorelin which has an identical mechanism of action) being used in a young patient with gender confusion was published out of Holland in 1998 where a pediatric endocrinologist, working together with a psychiatrist, decided to use the medication on a 13-year-old girl suffering from gender dysphoria," Michael Laidlaw, a Rocklin, California-based endocrinologist, told The Christian Post in a previous interview.

Reports have emerged in recent years showing that the pediatric version of the drug comes with few warnings about long-term side effects and leads to lasting and severe health problems.

When injected into a physically healthy body, the drug interrupts a normally-functioning endocrine system, yielding hypogonadotropic hypogonadism, according to Laidlaw.

“It’s a serious condition that endocrinologists would normally diagnose and treat because it interferes with development, but in [gender dysphoria] cases they’re inducing this disease state,” he said in an interview with the National Catholic Register.

In 2017, the FDA said it was "conducting a specific review of nervous system and psychiatric events in association with the use of GnRH agonists, [a class of drugs] including Lupron, in pediatric patients,” in response to questions from Kaiser Health News and Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting. The government agency was also reportedly reviewing seizures that stemmed from use of Lupron's pediatric version and other drugs in its class.

Transgender activists often promote such drugs as a "pause button" on life, giving young people additional time to decide whether to proceed to cross-sex hormones and surgical transition.

The therapeutic idea behind the use of Lupron for treatment of prostate cancer is that by inhibiting the flow of testosterone over the prostate and reducing it to a low, undetectable level, prostate cancer tissue is prevented from growing, Laidlaw told CP in a previous interview about the drug's dangers.

Unlike prostate cancer, a disease where the drug at least serves the purpose of targeting the malignant masses on the organ, Laidlaw said he knows of no psychological condition that is treated by putting hormones out of alignment from their normal levels.

"Gender dysphoria is not an endocrine condition, but is a psychological one and should, therefore, be treated with proper psychological care. But it becomes an endocrine condition once you start using puberty blockers and giving cross-sex hormones to kids," Laidlaw stressed at the time.

According to the annual report of AbbVie, the company that produces Lupron, sales of the drug were approximately $669 million in 2017 in the United States alone.

England's lone gender clinic, the Tavistock Centre in London, has come under scrutiny in recent months in part because of intensifying public concern about puberty blockers.

Kirsty Entwistle, who until last October was a staff psychologist at the Gender Identity Development Service in Leeds, accused Tavistock clinicians in July of misleading young patients, saying they were “making decisions that will have a major impact on children and young people’s bodies and lives ... without a robust evidence base" and said the facility had troubling internal practices.

Children and their families were being told that puberty-suppressing drugs used to transition youth were "fully reversible," when in fact the drugs' long-term effects remain unknown, she said, noting that an "unspoken rule" existed within the clinic — that clinicians were never to inform families that their children were not transgender.

 

[Jones]

The Australian Psychological Society has written a submission to promote allowing children under 16 to go ahead with gender reassignment surgery without the consent of the parents or mandatory counselling!

Ignore the wishes of transgender kids’ parents, say psychologists

Children under 16 should be allowed to go ahead with irreversible transgender surgery against the wishes of both parents and without mandatory counselling, the Australian Psychological Society says.

As recently as last year, Family Court approval was needed for this surgery, notwithstanding parents and doctors all agreeing it would help an under-age patient suffering psychological distress about “being born in the wrong body”.

In an unpublished law reform submission, the peak body representing 24,000 psychologists says opposition of both parents should not stand in the way of a child under 16 consenting to surgery, such as a double mastectomy, as long as the doctors are “competent” in assessing the child’s capacity to make decisions.

The APS was answering questions raised by the Tasmanian Law Reform Institute, which is reviewing that state’s law allowing those aged 16 and older to overwrite the biological sex on their birth certificate with myriad gender identities.

The largest professional body for psychologists dismisses mandatory counselling before surgery as often “an unnecessary burden”, saying it is likely these gender-diverse children will already have had “considerable medical oversight”.

It says children seeking trans medical treatment against the wishes of parents or guardians face “a significant barrier” because they cannot initiate court action for approval.

It suggests giving hospitals the right to petition courts, “advocacy” to win over parents or legal advice for minors so they can authorise their own treatment.

A paediatrician with more than two decades’ experience said the brain’s frontal lobe, crucial to complex decision-making, does not reach maturity until about the age of 25. “(Young) people are making life-changing decisions about their bodies before their brains and cognitive function have fully matured,” he said, speaking anonymously because his work would expose him to abuse and harassment by transgender activists.

In the March 2018 case of Re Matthew, a 16-year-old female seeking a double mastectomy to feel and look more like a boy, the Family Court narrowed its supervisory role of trans treatment decisions with minors, so its approval is needed only if there is conflict between parents and clinicians. A handful of cases authorising double mastectomies for biological females under 18 — two were 15-year-olds — has been identified by Western Sydney University professor of paediatrics John Whitehall, who, with the backing of 260 other doctors, is calling for a federal parliamentary inquiry into trans medical treatment of children.

Clinicians in several countries have raised the alarm about a surge in teenage girls, with no history of confusion about their sex, suddenly declaring themselves transgender and pleading with parents for access to cross-sex hormones, which come with side-effects such as infertility.

The Family Court database cannot give a total, by-sex breakdown or outcome for the under-18 surgery cases it has handled, a spokeswoman said.

The nationwide trend in transgender operations for young people under 25 is unknown.

In a January case involving a father opposed to so-called “top surgery” for his 17-year-old daughter, who identifies as a trans boy, an unnamed psychiatrist testified the surgery would reduce “his psychological pain, as his breasts are a prominent reminder of his female gender”.

The APS submission was co-written by policy officer Harrier Radermacher and Flinders University gender specialist Damien Riggs. The Australian sought comment from the APS and Health Minister Greg Hunt.

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www.theaustralian.com.au

Here is a link to the submission:

https://theaustralianatnewscorpau.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/aps_submission_legal_recognition_sex_and_gender_tas.pdf

 

[Laura]

The Australian Psychological Society has written a submission to promote allowing children under 16 to go ahead with gender reassignment surgery without the consent of the parents or mandatory counselling!

Any psychologist who agrees to that should be brought up on charges of child abuse and endangerment and have their licenses removed.

 

[Jones]

Any psychologist who agrees to that should be brought up on charges of child abuse and endangerment and have their licenses removed.

I reckon! I'm shocked - the APS has 24,000 members according to their home page.

 

[hesperides]

Then what will be next, jeez? Maybe instead of 'Mom, I´m borned in the wrong body', next claim will be 'I'm borned on the wrong planet, how did you dare deciding in my place, mom? I´m really shocked too, more than ever I´m realizing the nefarious effects of our materialistic laws and habits on the soul: we´re cocreators, be it with or without our consent, but the latest laws are far beyond my most ingenious predictions about the next level of evil entering the scene.

 

[loreta]

This is more and more similar to the book of Huxley, I have the impression, Brave New World, where it was important to "work" on kids, first of all. We are going, little by little, there, in this horrific Huxley world. Between Huxley an Orwell, we can see the future and end of our humanity.

 

[goyacobol]

That person had to be in the "believe"religion and jezus and god and evil spirits where real. Not happening with me. I'm not possessed in anyway. Sounds to me like those gay convers therapy's . I do believe in evil spirits though. But absolutely not in a religious way.

@Shirannah ,

I think many of the more religious references while being a turn-off may have some value if viewed as man's feeble attempt to understand these "evil spirits". Personally, I have had to reconcile previous religious beliefs with the information the Cs have given in the session transcripts.

Before reading some of Gurjieff's suggestions to use "strategic enclosure" I once tried to describe 4th density STS to my mother. In the end I had to say that 4D STS beings are very much like demons/demonic spirits.

I am glad you had the courage to tell your story and also glad you seem to be doing well after all the changes you have undergone.

I do now believe that it is "the soul that counts" as the Cs have said.

In Hostage to The Devil I noticed the demon talked about "the box" and while it had dual/multiple meaning it also made me think of a connection to something in the sessions.

"Oh, it starts with the box and ends with the box. So long as we rnake them think the box is all, we fix them. We can make a -jezebel- of the grandest-all legal, all secure, if once . . . if once they think the box is woman, Woman a box . . . the greatest insult to the High Enemy, because woman is likest to the High Enemy

With all your experiences you may have noticed some of the accounts in The Wave of the interaction between 4D STS and 3D.
Here are some references that may help:

Keeping in mind that a "box" is a kind of "container"...

Session 20 October 2005:

Q: (Foofighter) I am interested in how the 94% of the population being used as containers or parts for a new race relates to the comment that “all of this will fail”. How can those two things happen at the same time or are they mutually exclusive?

A: Just because 94 percent may “die” does not necessarily mean success for STS forces. The energy of “containers” can be utilized positively or negatively. Also, notice that the plans were revealed prior to the efforts of the present company. Remember the flapping butterfly wings.

Also, we are subject to being very "bodycentric" I think...
The Wave Chapter 62: Secret Games at Princeton

Q: (L) Well, that answered my other question about the objective. Well, here in the book, Dr. Jacobs says that there is ongoing abductions through particular families. I quote: “Beyond protecting the fetus, there are other reasons for secrecy. If abductions are, as all the evidence clearly indicates, an intergenerational phenomenon in which the children of abductees are themselves abductees, then one of the aliens’ goals is the generation of more abductees. Are all children of abductees incorporated into the phenomenon? The evidence suggests that the answer is yes. If an abductee has children with a non-abductee, the chances are that all their descendants will be abductees. This means that through normal population increase, divorce, remarriage and so on, the abductee population will increase quickly throughout the generations. When those children grow and marry and have children of their own, all of their children, whether they marry an abductee or non-abductee, will be abductees. To protect the intergenerational nature of the breeding program, it must be kept secret from the abductees so that they will continue to have children. If the abductees knew that the program was intergenerational, they might elect not to have children. This would bring a critical part of the program to a halt, which the aliens cannot allow. The final reason for secrecy is to expand the breeding program, to integrate laterally in society, the aliens must make sure that abductees mate with non-abductees and produce abductee children.”

A: We have told you before: The Nazi experience was a “trial run,” and by now you see the similarities, do you not? […] Now, we have also told you that the experience of the “Native Americans” vis a vis the Europeans may be a precursor in microcosm. Also, what Earthian 3rd density does to Terran 2nd density should offer “food for thought.” In other words, thou are not so special, despiteth thy perspective, eh? And we have also warned that after conversion of Earth humans to 4th density, the Orion 4th density and their allies hope to control you “there.” Now put this all together and what have you? At least you should by now know that it is the soul that matters, not the body. Others have genetically, spiritually and psychically manipulated/engineered you to be bodycentric. Interesting, as despite all efforts by 4th through 6th density STO, this “veil remains unbroken.”