The Tunnels Exist

c.a.

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https://youtu.be/sdpGkOBS4-k

One can dig for clues below
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Ultra-terrestrial activity / Lizzies Agenda?
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,6042.msg41511.html#msg41511
Tunnel to 'underworld' discovered beneath pyramid at Teotihuacan in Mexico
https://www.sott.net/article/355765-Tunnel-to-underworld-discovered-beneath-pyramid-at-Teotihuacan-in-Mexico

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In reference to the theory of a Hollow Earth
Session 4 May 1996
 

Gawan

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I'm always skeptical what the youtuber SecureTeam presents and especially his interpretations are very often loose and even wrong ends imo. For example the northern lights are an electrical phenomenon that are caused by activity of the sun.

Nonetheless that the tunnels are found is interesting and maybe could also have a much simpler explanation, still a hypotheses: To protect citizens from cometary impacts in the past.
 

c.a.

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Gawan said:
I'm always skeptical what the youtuber SecureTeam presents and especially his interpretations are very often loose and even wrong ends imo. For example the northern lights are an electrical phenomenon that are caused by activity of the sun.
Nonetheless that the tunnels are found is interesting and maybe could also have a much simpler explanation, still a hypotheses: To protect citizens from cometary impacts in the past.
Yes Gawan I would agree with your assessment. He always seems to muddy the waters, with no real research to back his claims, by dragging in unnecessary, and unrelated information.
I think he may mean well but, has a low confidence of reality perhaps do to disfo-agents in his corner. Yet, people send him there observation's.


I think to remember that the C's indicated that the reptilians had taken one the ancient south American culture's underground, (before a major cataclysmic event). As slave labor, (also for genetic research), and as a necessary food source within the third density constraint's, for nourishment.

Mean while (posted yesterday), from MUFON: Video (2:05)
Secret Space Program JULY 20th-23rd 2017-LAS VEGAS, NEVADA USA
_https://www.mufonsymposium.com/

What I Learned in The Navy …And How It’s Still Secret Today (Videooooooo 50:16)
_https://www.mufonsymposium.com/william-tompkins
When I was growing up in Hollywood, I had a remarkable memory that permitted me to have precise knowledge of the details of Naval ships in the Long Beach harbor. The models I made resulted in the Navy “drafting” me to work as staff to Rear Admiral Rico Botta in 1942.

I participated in the review of over a thousand reports from German-speaking Navy “spies” or operatives for the next three years. They were telling us about the incredible things they were learning that Nazi Germany was doing and had done with high technology vehicles developed by German citizens as well as by an extraterrestrial race of Draco Reptilians, who gave them some completed craft.

They reported the use of secret caverns in Antarctica that housed the German SS, which planned to control the planets and star systems with the help of the Reptilians. These reports, thought to be “incredible” at first exposure, were delivered by me as courier to many Naval and airplane company facilities, including the Douglas Aircraft Company.

My talk will be a report of what I learned from as disseminator of aircraft research and information during these debriefings, how the recipients of the data reacted, and what actions might have occurred by all parties because of being exposed to this information. My subsequent employment at Douglas in a “think tank” was related to the information earlier provided, and I was asked to assist in the development of Naval spacecraft that were more than 1 km long.

These designs may have been a precursor to the alleged Navy “Solar Warden” program.

BIO included:
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aaronfransen

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Actually, Wal Thornhill and Hannes Alfven actually have proven that the auroras are electrical in nature, and are powered by the sun.
 

Joe

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Lost Spirit said:
Actually, Wal Thornhill and Hannes Alfven actually have proven that the auroras are electrical in nature, and are powered by the sun.
I think that is what Gawan was pointing out. "Secure team" probably came up with some outlandish theory about the northern lights, likely to do with "aliens" or something
 

goyacobol

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c.a.,

Well I can't say you didn't do the research for digging material. I just don't know anymore how to prove the current claims people are making. I guess it is a time resource problem that I am considering. With that being said, I am just too curious (so far) to not check out your hints.

Session 18 March 1995

Q: (L) Are new frogs being created to populate the earth?

A: Okay, here we go: Oncoming wave is a transformation from third density to fourth density so, events happening due to the approach of the wave are causing changes across densities and realities! In third density, you will notice changes that will have third density explanations, but they are a manifestation of the approach; you see them as third density because that is your current point of reference! Remember that all reflects in and cross all density levels but also there is a merging upon arrival of the wave, it is realm border crossing!!!!!!

Q: (J) Well, we are once again thinking third density. Please be patient with us. We aren't finished yet. (S) Does that mean we are half-baked? (T) Or half frogged! (L) I just thought that the Lizzies might like frog legs. {Laughter} (T) The Lizzies are French?

(F) I read something last night that said a scientist had been working at one of the bases, or he was a tech working at a super-secret complex somewhere, and he was working on something in some underground room and the elevator door opened and he saw, standing there, right before his eyes, a Lizard Being. He said that the elevator must have been malfunctioning because it wasn't supposed to stop at that level, and he wasn't supposed to see it. In another instance, someone saw two Grays working on something in a hangar and they were told by an MP to leave or they would be shot.

(L) Are these stories Frank is recounting about Lizzies being on elevators and Grays working in hangars, are these true stories or are they disinformation?

A: True.

Session 14 October 1995

A: Viet Nam MIA's, where do you suppose they are now?

Q: (L) Well, I'm hoping you're going to tell us! (T) Some of them... (TK) Have they been abducted? (T) Some of them got blown up so badly that they couldn't be found, so they were listed as MIAs, because they couldn't mark them as KIAs. Some of them are deserters, some of them... well, deserters would fall into several classifications, which I won't bother getting into. Some of them went into the drug trade. (TK) Some of them just decided they liked it better over there. (T) Yeah, there's that, and some of them, I would imagine, have been either abducted or swapped, moved into the secret government. (L) Is all of this correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (T): That's why they can't tell people where they are... (TK) Are we supposed to still be on the military subject? (J) Who knows?

A: KIA's... Are a Separate subject!! KIA's, how many really were?

Q:(T) How many of the 60,000 really were killed? How many of them are listed as dead when they're not? Intelligence... (TK) Tell you what, they could recruit... There were so many different kinds of people that went over there, they could have recruited a bunch... (J): Yeah, that's true. (L) OK, now, are you going to give us a hint as to where they are and what they're doing right now? Are these some of the people working in these underground places?

A: Yes..Yes...Yes.

Q: (L) That's where those personnel are coming from... their lives, they have died the philosopher's death.

A: And many other places, times. etc...

Q: (TK) Wars all through the ages. How many are we talking about? (L) What kind of a number are we talking about here?

A: Since your imagination center is on low frequency tonight, suppose we have to spell it all out for you, but at least it is fun to watch the impact, like "A ton of bricks" falling on your heads!!

Q: (L) Go ahead, spell it out for us. How many are we talking about here?

A: W.W.II, 72,355, still alive where????

Q: (L) Is that the correct figure?... (T) Now, wait a minute...

A: Yes.

Q: (T): That's how many people the secret government has snatched up? (J) From W.W.II. (SV) That's not talking Korea... (TK) That's out of something like 40 million... (L) Frank, how many? (F) Total People in W.W.II was 70 to 80 million... (TK) Military casualties... . we're not talking about just U.S. military, either, we're talking about total, anybody.... (T): Are you talking about total... all killed in action in W.W.II? (L) No, they said... read it.... (J) "W.W.II, 72,355 still alive. Where???" (L) Still alive! (T) That were supposedly killed in action...

A: Yes.

Q: (T): From all branches of the service.

A: Yes.

Q: (TK): These people aren't aging; they're still in action and ready to go...

A: Precisely, my friends!!!

Q: (J) OK, that's just W.W.II...(TK) How about Korea, Vietnam, etc... (L) All right, what's the figure from Korea? (TK) What difference does it make? (L) Well, that's true! (SV): We want to know.

A: 6,734.

Q: (TK) Yeah, considering the fact that I don't think we really lost that many... (T) No, we didn't have that many losses in Korea. (TK) How about the Gulf War?

A: Yes. 55.

Q: (T): Yeah, there was about 55 thousand casualties in Korea, in the four years of Korea. Really it was 3 1/2 years in Korea. So 6,000 means about a little over 10% of them aren't really dead.

A: 23,469.

Q: (L) What was that? (J): Vietnam, that was Vietnam.... (T) 23,000 of the 66,000...

A: Yes.

Q: (T): ...are still alive?

A: Yes.

Q: (T): So you've got 23,000 from...

A: Some are body duplicate soul receptacle replacements.

[Change in tape sides; first few sentences of next question segment were lost.]

Q: (T) They're moving big time fast right now. (J) They have just around 100,000 with those three figures they gave us. (T) Well, now, that's just three wars. We didn't ask about...

(TK) That's three wars. That doesn't count... (J) How about WWI, how about Gulf War... (TK) Well, the Gulf War, there weren't that many casualties... (T) About a dozen. (TK) But the other side did...

(T) Yes, we're only asking about the U.S. How about others? Yes, you're right, how about other military...

(J) We have no way of knowing. Have they ever released figures? We don't know.

(TK) They've got a military right now, and it's not just a military, these are elite. I'll bet you, they're elite. I mean, they've been recruited.

(J) They've been asked the question, and they said yes!

(T) Yes, this is not some guy hunking a gun in a foxhole just for the heck of it. These are specialists.

(TK) The CIA was siphoning people off in 'Nam right and left.

(T) Yes, and a lot of these squads that are running around don't exist. A lot of this stuff...

(TK) Yes, like these Black Ops, whatever they call it, and all this stuff. This "New World Order" is about to come about. You know what, there isn't any way to stop it.

(T) Oh, no, we can't stop it.

(TK) You can fight back and try to survive on your own, but there's no way to stop the New World Order.

(T) The only way to get through this is the old Lao Tzu or whoever, the Chinese military philosopher, who said "The wheat stalk that survives is the one that bends with the wind."

(TK): "Yes, I'll do whatever you say."

(T) There's no way to stop it. All these people who are talking about going out and going to fight it, they aren't going to fight it. They can't. They can't win.

(F) Well, they are already being diverted.

(TK) On top of everything else, these are the elite. I mean, these are the ones that have been recruited, and they are the elite. Now, most military organizations are going to fall right into this, because the government.... Admitted, there's gong to be a lot of deserters from the military, I mean there's some people, like, if I was in the military, and they started rounding people up in the U.S., I'd say, "Sorry, this is where I came in..."

(T) This is why this Koernke guy up in the Michigan militia group has been talking about the foreign UN troops, because the military, the government that's ready to come into power, this one world government knows that you can't subdue any country with their own troops.

(TK) It can't be done.

(T) That's why they're sending American troops to all these other countries.

(F) And all the other countries are sending troops here.

(J) Well, what about the guy who wouldn't put on the U.N. uniform?

(T) Yes, that was mentioned in the paper again today, in passing. This guy knew.

(TK) Well, really, the only thing a person can do is like you were saying, go with the flow... Basically, you've got to. Up to a point, at least.

(T) It's easier to fight it by going with the flow than it is to fight it by going against it.

(F) Who is going to stand up in the line of fire and say "I refuse!" They'd blow him away...

(TK): What, if anything, can be done about this "New World Order?"

A: Too complex to answer, need specific questions.

Session 4 May 1996

Q: (L) One of the things we talked about the last time Tom was here was about the underground bases and military interference in civilian affairs and civilian interface with military affairs. What further can you tell us about this?

A: Ask specific questions, please.

Q: (L) One of the questions we were dealing with was the use of warfare to create situations in which bodies could be taken...

A: Warfare has many "uses."

Q: (L) Could you list for us some of the most common uses of warfare?

A: Generation of environment to facilitate inconspicuous replacement of gene pool. Factors in paradigm shift through stimulation of conception activity, replacement of key personnel according to frequency vibration pre-readings...

Q: (TH) Who or what in the gene pool is being replaced? (TK) Whoever they want replaced. (L) Well, you know how it is in the movies... everybody is indiscriminately making love before they go into battle... (F) Yes... they said 'factors in paradigm shift through stimulation of conception activity...' (L) 'Replacement of key personnel according to frequency vibration pre-readings...' Okay: do you mean to say that war...

A: Creates "environment" for unnoticed genetic modifications because of greatly heightened exchange of both physical and ethereal factors.

Q: (L) What do you mean by "replacement of key personnel?" Key personnel according to whose definition?

A: 4th density STS.

Q: (L) Are these key personnel human?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) When you say replacement, do you mean something as simple as someone dying, such as a head of state, and being replaced by another person who comes to power? That would be the simplest scenario that would fit this explanation.

A: Your scenario is not simple.

Q: (L) I mean simple in terms of the machinations...

A: Both.

Q: (L) Would it also be that key personnel could also be replaced as in duplication?

A: Yes. And removing to secret activity realm. Enough wars have taken place to effectively create entire new "underground race" of humans, both from direct capture followed by "reeducation," and spawning activity using these persons and others.

Q: (L) What do you mean by spawning activity?

A: Those captured have reproduced offspring, these never having seen your world.

Q: (L) Are you saying... (TK) They have given birth and these children have never seen our world... (L) How can an entire race of people, or groups of people, live under the surface of this planet, without the whole 6 billion of the rest of us on top, or at least a large number, realizing that there is anything going on? This is so wild an idea...

A: No. How much space exists underground, as opposed to that on the surface?

Q: (L) A lot, I suppose. You aren't saying that the earth is hollow, are you?

A: No, not exactly.

Q: (L) Well, how deep is the deepest of these underground cities?

A: 3,108 miles.

Q: (L) That's pretty deep! But wouldn't it be too hot at that depth?

A: No. Temperature averages 68 degrees F.

Q: (TK) That's pretty comfortable! (L) How do they have light?

A: Magnetic resonance.

Q: (L) Well, aren't they subject to being crushed by earthquakes?

A: No, earthquakes are not felt deep underground!!

Q: (L) Does any of this underground civilization activity have any relation to this massive underground base the Russians are building?

A: No.

Q: (TK) Is any of this under the ocean?

A: Yes.

Q: (TK) Well, we'll never explore all of what is under the ocean. (L) It just staggers the mind to think about it. What do they want these people for?

A: To replace you.

Q: (TK) And why? Because they can control them better. Right?

A: Completely.

Q: (L) Do these people being bred and raised in these underground cities have souls?

A: Yes, most.

Q: (TK) Are they just like us only raised differently?

A: More complicated than that.

Q: (L) How long have they been doing this?

A: 14,000 years, approximately.

Q: (L) If they have been doing it that long, obviously the ones they have taken at the beginning have croaked and are of no use to replace anybody on the earth unless they have been replacing people from time to time for various reasons...

A: No, their technology makes yours look like Neanderthal by comparison! Hibernation tubes... One heartbeat per hour, for example.

Q: (TH) That means that for every year we live, they would live 4200 years... (L) Does any of this have anything to do with that crazy pit at Oak Island?

A: In an offhand way.

Q: (L) How do we fit into all of this? (TK) We don't!

A: You have been the "preparation committee."


Q: (L) What have we been doing? Is it part of the plan for us to destroy the planet, destroy the ozone layer, pollute the seas and so forth to make it more habitable for them?

A: Those things are inconsequential and easily repaired.

Q: (TK) With their technology, they can fix all of that. (L) This is really horrible, you know! To think of all this... (TK) Apparently, from what I am understanding, they can't just come in and wipe us out and replace us, because the 'rules' won't allow it.

A: Yet the natural cycles within the framework of the natural order of things will allow all these things to fall into place.

Q: (L) Is there some law within the realm of these beings, sort of like the law of gravity, that prevents them from just coming in and taking over?

A: No.

Q: (TK) I don't think it is like the law of gravity...

A: What "law" is there that inhibits you from manipulating 2nd density beings at will?!?

Q: (L) Well, I don't go out and deliberately hurt or manipulate anything or anybody. (TK) Of course, in our handling of these 'critters,' we are conserving them in some ways so that we will have an ongoing food supply... I think there are rules to the game. It's like a chess game. They can't just come in and change things, it has to progress in some way. But, there are loopholes and they can sneak in and manipulate and get away with some things... (TH) Then, there aren't rules - there are just guidelines.

A: Two important points there: 1) When we said "you," we meant 3rd density collectively. 2) You missed our statement about the natural cycle and order of things almost completely. We suggest you reread and ponder... Also, what if your race is manipulated to destroy yourselves, or, just hang around until the next natural cataclysm?

Q: (TK) Well, it seems like there is another side that is trying to prevent them from gaining control.

(L) Well, from what I understand, the only thing the good guys are able to do is, because of free will, they have to wait to be asked for help, and the only they thing they can really do is give information.

(F) Well, this is valuable if used by the right people at the right time.

(TK) You have to come up with the right questions, too. You have to have enough information to be able to come up with the right questions. I am sure the information is there. You have one group with all these people underground and they want to take over the planet. This group likes being 4th density - they don't want to advance. They want to block advancement. Then, you have the group that want to advance, they want the natural order to proceed. This negative group wants to stay there and keep everyone they can there.

(L) And because they deplete themselves and diminish in numbers, they keep having to supply their needs and existence.

(TK) If, by some odd chance, the earth is the only place where people come to advance, then sooner or later it is going to stop, if these other guys take over, then it will just stop... implode.

(TH) I know! The earth is a 4th density theme park!

(L) We already thought of that... we all have an 'E' ticket ride!

(TK) Obviously we have the information, but we haven't really dug deep enough; we don't know the questions that we need to ask. Is this true?

A: No.

Q: (TK) Is what I was saying close to the truth?

A: Yes. Total truth is elusive.

Q: (TK) So, what I said was the gist of what is going on here. So, we have to figure out what we are supposed to do so that the earth can be maintained...

A: You will do what you will do.


Q: (TK) This is true.

A: Do you, in general, control 2nd density beings on earth?

Q: (L) Yes.

A: So, what is "fair" about that?

Q: (L) Nothing.

A: Okay, so what is the difference?!?!???

Q: (TK) So, basically, we control 2nd density, and 4th density controls us. There are the good guys and bad guys. (L) And we will do what we will do. Either we choose to align ourselves with the good guys, or with the bad guys.

A: It's up to you.

Q: (TK) However, if too many people align themselves with the bad guys, then the balance tips in their favor, and there is no more advancement, so there has to be education so that people will know...

A: Tom, you are close, but you are missing the point.

Q: (L) What is the point?

A: The point is, there "has to be" nothing. You will do what you will do. You choose. We have told you this repeatedly, but you still suffer from self-centered perspective.


Q: (TK) Everybody is worried about themselves. They all want to be saved and not worry about others.

A: More to the point, everybody in an STS realm views themselves as somehow "special, chosen, or protected." This is simply not so!!

Q: (TK) What is going to happen, is going to happen. The people...

A: The body does not matter. It is the soul that either progresses or digresses, just ask Sandra!

Q: (L) Did Sandra progress or digress?

A: Open.

Q: (L) So, in other words, we could just sit around and live our lives and have a good time and not worry about a damn thing. Is that the point?

A: No.

Q: (L) It's our choices?

A: Yes.

Q: (TK) The point is it's going to happen...

A: But, nobody is there to intervene on your behalf as many would like to believe.

Q: (L) So, we are here on this planet, and we will either make it or we won't, just like Dorothy and Toto in Oz, based on our own ability to figure it out, to overcome the odds, the witch, monkeys and soldiers... (TK) Maybe what they are trying to do is give people the information, or make the information available so that people can make the choice, do they want to stay...

A: We are not "trying" to do anything. We are here to answer questions if asked. We cannot interfere.

Q: (TK) Yes, the non-interference idea is pretty clear and understandable. So, they cannot interfere...

A: And, even when we answer, you may not believe, it is up to you!

Q: (L) So, we are really on our own!

A: You always have been, and so have we, and all others, too!!


Q: (TK) I guess then, it is a matter of asking the right questions so that you will know what course of action to take. I mean, do you want to advance? Do you want to go to 4th density? Or do you want to go higher? Or do you want to stay here? How can you make an informed choice if you don't know the true conditions and what your options are?

(L) Is it that the religions that have been generated and foisted on the human race, have been designed to give people a feeling of complacency or faith in something outside themselves, and that this prevents them from seeking knowledge, opening their eyes, facing the facts of their existence, and therefore keeps them in bondage?

A: Its just obstacles, as always. You employ those too, for your 2nd density friends!!

Q: (TK) What state of mind do you have to have to want to advance?

(F) Well, you know you are on the path when you can see that the words don't match the facts of life. Think of all the people you have met with whom you may have had a philosophical conversation. How many will say: Oh, all I need is the Bible. That's all I pay any attention to.

(TK) I don't have many philosophical conversations with people because I rarely agree with anything that is said.

(F) Well, you must have decided on this because you tried it and found it didn't work.

(TK) I have a real problem... yes, the Bible has been around for a long time, and religion has been around for a long time... but I have a real problem believing something that is so obviously produced by humans with agendas of their own!

(F) But most people that you tell that to will say: Oh, no! People didn't write the Bible, God did! Or, they could be a complete atheist and believe only in the religion of science.

(TK) I believe that a person is supposed to live by rules and treat people with respect and honor life... and some of the ideas of religion are good... but they just go over the edge.

(F) That is how they suck people in. Mix lies with the truth.

(L) Yes, a lie sandwiched between two truths makes it easier to swallow.

(F) Yes, if it was ALL false, the vast majority of people would have figured it out immediately. Or, very quickly.

(TK) The vast majority don't care. They just want to be led like sheep. They don't want any responsibility.

(F) And what happens to the vast majority of cattle? They munch away in their pasture until time to get in the truck to go to the butcher.

(TK) Well, after all my years in the military, I have gotten to the point that I just don't trust anybody with authority.

(F) And, if you talk to the religious types, they will say: “Oh, I don't have any answers... I just follow the Bible”.

(L) Not only do they not have any answers, they don't have any questions, either. And, I think that is the clue: the people who are still asking questions after wading through all the religions and mystical mumbo-jumbo. The ones who think they have found the ultimate answer are - well - lunch!

(TK) The whole purpose of life, it seems to me, is to obtain knowledge and advance. You are stuck on this level until you figure it out. But what are you supposed to figure out?

(L) I think that the knowing is the doing.

(TH) "Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." It's in the Bible!!!

(L) Is the knowing the key?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) I think that knowing changes your frequency. Is that true?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) The acknowledging and the seeing?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did they tell us once... it's not where you are, but who you are and what you see that counts. (TK) So, we aren't gonna change what happens. There is no way we can have any appreciable effect on the underground armies... it is just a matter of changing ourselves and whoever else we can share with.

A: Correct, the cow has no effect on the health of the livestock industry...


Q: (TK) The cow has no effect on the herd. One cow doesn't... or even a lot of cows.

(F) But there might be one or two cows that follow one that breaks out of the herd.

(TK) Yes, you might be able to affect somebody else's life, but not the whole group. So, worrying about the underground stuff, is immaterial.

(L) But, knowing about it is.


(TK) All that survivalists, the militias and so forth. It is a complete waste of time.

(F) It is good to know what is going on.

(TK) But, could you know if you had an implant? (L) Yes... (TK) How, by asking?

(L) Well, that and examining your life and comparing with others. When you read the material, you find a lot of clues. It really opens your eyes.

(TK) Isn't the implant and the brainwashing a little bit past the interference that the 4th density STS should be allowed?

(L) We have learned that knowing you have an implant and what it can do, you then can cancel it out by choices. Those who believe that their implant is for their own good, are, of course, completely subject to them.

(TK) Have I ever been abducted?

A: Ask Tom about your kidnapping... Tom must learn.

Q: (L) What could be done...

A: Why do you suppose Tom "chose" to enter the Navy?

Q: (L) Because he was manipulated to do so?

A: Was led.

Q: (L) What things happened in the Navy?

A: Ask Tom.

Q: (L) It seems that he has been living rather on the surface... have you just gone along from day to day without thinking too much about it? (TK) Ummhmm.

A: No. That is what your "memory" tells you.

Q: (TK) I am getting a headache. (L) That's interesting. Why does he get the headaches?

A: Research the problem in order to learn. If we told you the answers to all these things, at this point, you would just shrug your shoulders and forget about it.

Q: (L) Is the shrugging of the shoulders a programmed response in him?

A: To an extent.

Q: (L) Okay, he mentioned the headaches beginning when he went on a particular camping trip. And, he is now trying to remember it, and it is causing him pain.

A: Hypnosis.

Q: (TK) The worst headache I ever had was when we were on our way to Japan and stopped in Hawaii. I went over to another ship to get some hydraulic fluid... on the way back, as I was coming back on the ship, I had a headache that was so bad I couldn't even tolerate light or sound. (L) You mean the kind where it hurts even to breathe? (TK) Ummhmm. (L) Well, I started having those after I woke up one night reversed in my bed with the bottom half of my nightgown wet. I know what they are like. Unbelievable pain.

A: Yes.

Q: (TK) Yes, nothing helps. (L) Can you give Tom a little help here?

A: Sorry. Tom is at the point where it will not help him for us to "give him a little bit."

Q: (F) Well, they never gave us point blank answers either. (L) Well, of all the people who have come to the sessions, he is the first who has immediately understood what is going on and what it means. (F) Most everyone else thinks they already know the answers... (L) Getting back to the underground bases, is the HAARP project connected to these underground bases.

A: Not directly.

Q: (L) You once said that HAARP was something that was to be used to "transfer perimeters." I am assuming that this means to manipulate space, time and density.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it possible that they are planning to use this to bring up the Atlantean crystals to utilize?

A: Not so much to "bring up," as to utilize.

Q: (L) Is there anything to BRH's idea about the "harmonics," that it must be ready to function on a certain day and time?

A: No.

Q: (L) In terms of what we understand - I know you aren't gonna answer it that way - if Tom tries to bring up the memories and understand, the headaches ought to go away... (TK) I haven't had any since I have been out of the Navy.

A: O'Brien is "lyin'"

Q: (L) What is is about O'Brien?

A: Discover. Why is Tom there, of all places?!?

Q: (L) Is there something in that area, some frequency from the earth, some electromagnetics or something, that can tend to...

A: Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe....

Q: (L) It keeps a person quiescent and in the dark?

A: Stalling frequency... And by the way, can anyone come up with a purpose for the existence of Camp Blanding? Well??...


Q: (TK) Ask about Dave Wh___... he lives nearby...

A: First, some blockbuster stuff for the Knighted ones... Look upon a detailed map, and reflect, remember lonely journeys from long ago, and begin to unlock shattering mysteries which will lead to revelations opening the door to the greatest learning burst yet!!

Q: (F) Oh, my. A LOT of questions... (L) Was there more than one journey to Camp Blanding?

A: No.

Q: (L) Only one?

A: For you.

Q: (L) More than one for Tom?

A: ?

Q: (L) You said "knighted ones," as though there were some significance to the name...

A: Discover...

Q: (L) Is there some genetic engineering here?

A: No, not in the sense you are thinking. But, all are in some sense.

Q: (L) Why did my mother marry men who kept affecting our lives in such terrible ways?

A: Ask her.

Q: (L) She has no answer. She is baffled herself.

A: So, get her to discover. That is where the clues lie.

Q: (L) So, the clues lie with some of these people... We remember the trip with one of them - to North Carolina - when we were taken to school...

A: Why did he insist you go to boarding school? And why did your mother acquiesce?

Q: (L) All this comes back to the original question, why Tom is in O'Brien, near Camp Blanding...

A: EM waves curdle the mind producing complacency in the face of contrived misery. Numbs the mind through isolationist influences. Why are you there, Tom? Who begged you to stay there? EM waves emanate from?? Suggest you, Laura, go to library and research Camp Blanding. You may find a "black hole," so to speak!!

Q: (L) A black hole. Okay. Well, there is sure a lot of stuff that has gone on in our lives for which there is simply no rational explanation. (TK) They sure have been giving a lot of stuff tonight without a lot of questions...

A: Visits through trees, forests, leading to a perfectly square clearing...

Q: (L) Hmmmm. Is Aunt H one of the generators of EM frequencies?

A: No, she is merely an unwitting agent.

Q: (L) Well, L is very isolationist in her tendencies. Is that a result of being in that area?

A: Same.

Q: (L) Well, what I REALLY want to know is WHY have we had all of these CRAZY things happen in our lives, and all of these people ranged all around us seemingly placed there, or manipulated deliberately to affect us negatively. I mean, am I wrong, or is this not a VERY unusual and crazy situation?

A: Why do you think?

Q: (L) Well, I have no idea!

A: Because you are of the extremely rare and few who have the abilities to put the puzzle together.

Q: (L) So, what are we supposed to do? (TK) Discover.

A: Yes. And, for tonight, good night.


End of Session
Session 31 August 1996

Q: (L) Now, in talking about these large underground cities or enclaves that we've talked about on a couple of occasions, it has been said that these beings come and actually may take human babies. I mean , this is like fairy lore, legends, of different kinds of creatures that come and steal people's babies, and they go and live underground, and sometimes, one or another will escape. Is this what we're talking about here? These kinds of situations, these underground cities and caves and civilizations and so forth?

A: Vague.

Q: (L) Well, I know it's vague... (T) Are the Celts part of these underground civilizations?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) And they came to the surface some time ago...

A: No.

Q: (L) No, they came here, and they were taken underground...

A: No.

Q: (L) No, well, what's the story?

A: Went.

Q: (L) They went underground? Is that it? (T) When did they go underground?

A: Several occasions, the most recent being, on your calendar: 1941 through 1945.

Q: (L) That's when they went underground? 1941 through 1945?

A: Last episode of mass migration, mostly Deutschlanders.

Q: (T) Underground. We're talking underground, as in under the surface of the earth. Is this what we're talking about?

A: Antarctica. Under there.

Q: (T) Under Antarctica, under... Oh, in one of the big... OOOhhh!

A: Entry port.


Q: (T) They went underground in Antarctica, they built a large underground base there, this is where the Germans, as in the Nazi Germans, claimed as Vineland, I think it is, where the older maps that show Antarctica, where the Germans, claimed as Vineland, I think it is, where the older maps that show Antarctica, where the German territory was claimed, it's in that section that's south of...

A: Yes, but they entered through their constructed base, as instructed, then were assimilated.

Q: (L) They were assimilated into the population already existent? Underground cities, underground bases?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, they didn't build them, they entered into them as instructed, and were assimilated into the population?

A: They did build a base.

Q: (T) Well, they'd have to keep expanding! Now, you said instructed... (L) Instructed by whom? (T) They were instructed to go there?

A: Those identifying themselves as "Antareans."

Q: (L) And who are the Antareans?

A: STS Humanoid Orion linkage.

Q: (L) What is an STS Orion Linkage? (T) That's the... (L) We have a new concept here. (T) They would be... the... the...the... (V) Mutant Race! (T) Yes! Those that were part of the creation...

A: No.

Q: (L) What is an STS Humanoid Orion linkage?

[Part of tape seems to be missing here, questions in [brackets] are reconstruction]

A: An STS race from Orion that is humanoid.

Q: [something about who or how they got hooked up with the Nazis. Probably a question related to the group that "handled" Hitler.]

A: The Thule Society originated contact.

Q: [something about them "waiting to take over the world"]

A: Waiting?

Q: [Terry's question about what Admiral Byrd may have seen over the pole.]

A: Yes, but he was led to believe he was chasing what amounted to merely an encampment of detached Nazis.

Q: [So Byrd must have SEEN something and was then led off the track...]

A: Yes

[Tape resumes here.]

Q: (T) ...the U.S. just assumed, and Churchill, between the two of them, was it Roosevelt and Churchill? They didn't even tell the Russians too much about what they were doing down there. They just assumed that this was a base, another one of their underground bases that was manned by the Nazis, but there wasn't anything that they could do, because they were too far away, and we were keeping them out of the war. So, there wasn't much that they could send back. So, they let them come in, and figured they were stranded. They've been coming back out...

(V) Are they coming back out now in the shape of the White Supremacists that are like popping up all over the place?

(T) They've been coming and going all along. Admiral Byrd was sent down there, supposedly to go to the South Pole, the first Admiral Byrd expedition to the South Pole; but he took a large military force with him. He was still a U.S. Admiral at the time. The large military force encountered resistance and got their asses whupped real good down there. But, they kept it real quiet, because nobody knew what was really going on down there. So, they just said, oh, it was a scientific expedition. It was really Captain Picard and the Enterprise going to find a new planet! And in reality, what they'd done was to go down there to root out this base out after the war, and they didn't do real well at all!

(J) Bit off more than they could chew.

(T) They lost a whole lot of people and a whole lot of ships, and a lot of equipment down there. That's why all these bases ring around the outside, all the scientific bases from different countries; Russia, the U.S., Great Britain, all these countries have these scientific bases all along the outer edge of the Antarctic. They're scientific, they use them for study, but they are there to monitor what's going on, that's why they don't go into the Antarctic [interior].

(V) You know, my father was a SeeBee down there.

(T) I'll bet he has some very interesting stories about it.

(V) That's why my father is an alcoholic and can't see straight.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What do these guys plan on doing?

A: This is where "The Master Race" is being developed.

Q: (L) And what is the timeframe they have planned for this activity?

A: Never mind.
Session 23 November 1996

Q: (T) Is the book Courtney Brown wrote, "Cosmic Voyage," concerning the Martian population...

A: It is true that there are underground bases on Mars, but they are Orion STS.

Q: (T) Are there Martians as portrayed by Courtney Brown?

A: Not exactly. He is portraying the Orion STS as the Martians.

Q: (T) Is Courtney Brown a government disinformation agent?

A: More as an "agent provocateur."

Q: (T) Is he working for the government?

A: Not directly, and remember, the government is not one entity.

Q: (L) Who is primarily backing Courtney Brown?

A: Rockefeller group.

Q: (L) Is Mike Lindemann and company part of this Rockefeller group at this time?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Linda Howe?

A: No.

Q: (T) Did Courtney actually do remote viewing to obtain the information in the book?

A: Not really. Not needed.

Q: (T) Does this mean that the whole story is concocted on his part?

A: Semi. Elements of it are factual.

Q: (T) Yes. I could see that there were factual elements. I could also see that there was a LOT that was questionable. that conflicts with EVERYTHING else that has come out from other researchers. This is all totally twisted and different.

A: Close.

Q: (T) Is Courtney able to do remote viewing?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) But he did not use it with this book?

A: No.

Q: (T) So, the book was made up the way it is. It is a story. Some factual information, some invented information, some pure BS thrown in to fluff it out. So, the book is NOT an account of work that has come from remote viewing sessions?

A: No, but not needed.

Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not "needed." Where did he get his information?

A: Secret sources. Agents of the “nation of the third eye."

Q: (J) What or who - is the "Nation of the Third Eye?"

A: Terran civilization under the surface.

Q: (L) Now, wait a minute. I remember that when they said the Aryans were brought from Kantek, and that they were "sturdier," or something like that, and I remarked that it seemed that they would be less sturdy - and the C's answered "on the surface." Now, that has always bothered me. I don't think they meant "surface appearances." Have the Aryans been glorified as the "master race" because they are more suited to living underground?

A: Close. All types there are "Aryan."

Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that has been 'managed' by Orions, or did it develop on its own?

A: One at a time.

Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these "managers" Orions from other densities?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) I don't understand. Are there some that are 4th and some that are 3rd?

A: The human types there are "bi-density."

Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!

A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can "visit" 3rd density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to "regenerate."

Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in any density?

A: In 4th and 3rd.

Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease on either density?

A: Well, not with "equal ease," because 4th density is easier, naturally.

Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write this quasi fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about the Martians?

A: "Martians" is easier to understand for the less well- informed, not to mention any discussion of the densities!

Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot easier to understand than densities! (L) Okay, Third Eye. What is this?

A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an explanation by surface types, such as yourselves. They were the inspiration for Masonic lore and Illuminati, too.

Q: (L) Does this "Third Eye" designation have a connotation of third eye abilities as we understand them?

A: Psychic.

Q: (T) Does Courtney know he has been had?

A: He has not been "had." He is under the employ of those who pull the levers, so to speak.

Q: (L) You said "pull the levers." Is Courtney Brown a robot, Greenbaumed, mind-controlled, implanted, or any or all of the above? (T) Or is he just foolish?

A: No. Not so foolish, he does not worry about paying the power bill. As Forest Gump said: "Stupid is as stupid does."

Q: (L) Are you implying that I am foolish or stupid because I DO worry about paying the power bill?

A: No, we are not implying that you are stupid, or foolish, for that matter... But, Courtney Brown is not either. Who is he hurting? And, he has hit the jackpot with this one. Knowledge can be procured by reading literature, then analyzing it.

Q: (T) Is the time-table that he has given correct?

A: Close.

Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time table and present the Aryans as Martians?

A: No.

Q: (L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as Martians?

A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the idea of EBEs.

Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.

A: Some of the "good guys" are identical in appearance.


Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that they can slide in quietly and take over?

A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the "government" to introduce everyone to the new reality of the existence of intelligent life all over the place, not just here.

Q: (T) So, they have their own agenda, but it is not what Courtney presented in the book.

A: It does not matter. The book is a somewhat altered "New Reality 101."

Q: (A) Where should I turn now concerning research subjects?

A: Not very specific, but due to the constraints, we will do our best. Suggest focus on larger horizon of current search. You are limiting yourself because of recent trend for more calculation. This is restricting you. Have you delved fully into field generators?

Q: (A) Which field to look at? Electromagnetic? Gravitational? Other?

A: Of course it is up to you, but why not combine the two, since they are in reality perfectly balanced and "interwoven" in nature!

Q: (A) Should I abandon my work on quantum theory?

A: Again, as with all, it is up to you. But, if we were you, we would not.

Q: (A) Should I look into the electromagnetic rail-guns problem?

A: Maybe, but first you must establish a link that you have pondered before but set aside. You set many questions aside. Patience serves the "questor of hidden knowledge" well!

Q: (A) Can you be more specific about the link you have in mind?

A: Yes, but we will not, because you must do the discovery here, in order for the progress to be reestablished.

Q: (A) Is the subject of my research at all important? If so, why?

A: Of course it is! You are on a pre-destined mission as you have always instinctively known. Recently though, you have developed a greater awareness of this. Self doubts are merely the result of crises in your personal life. Please do not confuse this with your work.

Q: (A) Which branch of physics is closest to understanding of inter-density communications?

A: Theoretical.

Q: (A) Which branch of mathematics?

A: Two of them: calculus and algebra.

Q: (A) Should I look into zero-point energy problem?

A: That one should be "set aside." Because it will lead to a "dead end."

Q: (A) Are the extra-dimensions beyond those of space and time relevant?

A: What "extra dimensions?"

Q: (A) Is time multi-dimensional? If so, is it three- dimensional?

A: Not correct concept. Time is not a dimension. This is very complex from your standpoint, but let us just say that time is "selective," or "variable."

Q: (A) I thank you for tonight. Any other comment to ponder about before the next session?

A: Ask, if needed, for a comment on the last responses.

Q: (A) Yes, a comment is needed. I am confused about space, time, Einstein's general relativity, gravitation and electromagnetism.

A: Einstein's Theory of Relativity is only partially correct. That is why we say that there is no "dimension" of time. As far as gravity and electromagnetics are concerned, we suggest a review of the as yet publicly unfinished Unified Field Theory of the same gentleman. Was it completed and put into application in secret? Hmmmmm... And, if so, what are the ramifications? Maybe you could make the same discoveries.

Q: (L) Any last comment?

A; Slow down for strength of mind.

End of Session
Session 22 February 1997

Q: (L) Ok, we have several things that we discussed earlier, is there anything you wish to say before we launch into questions?

A: Underground bases see dramatic budget increase.

Q: (L) Ok, why do they have a budget increase?

A: Because there is much more activity to come.

Q: (L) Ok, what kind of activity?

A: Broad range.

Q: (L) Can you list, say, the top three?

A: Experimentation, utilization and implementation.

Q: (L & T) Of what?

A: Human "resources." Plan falling into place for "harvest."

Q: (T) The new underground bases, along with all the old ones are for the coming harvest?

A: And other purposes of STS forces' plans.

Q: (T) And other STS plans... (L) What is this thing called 'The Harvest'?

A: What do you think?

Q: (L) Well, is that harvest in a negative event, or harvest in a positive one? I mean, as in the harvesting of the wheats and the tares...

A: Either/or.

Q: (L) Ok, now you say the plans are falling into place. What specific events of the past, say, several weeks, or months, whatever period of time set aside, are these plans that are falling into place? I mean, what's the key in the lock?

A: Have you been paying attention, as we have always suggested you should?

Q: (L) Of course! I just asked you because I wanted you to enumerate! Of course I'm paying attention!

A: Lately, there has been diversion for you.

Q: (L) Well, it doesn't mean I'm asleep! (VG) Can I ask a question? If this is because there's much more activity, and things are dramatically increasing, what has come to them, or whatever...

A: VG mentioned the weather. Was that a bit "nippy" for you in central Europe in December and January, Arkadiusz?

Q: (T) VG mentioned the weather, and the changes in it. What was the name of that movie we watched up in Tallahassee, I forgot the name of it...

{T then spoke about a science fiction movie we saw. Aliens were here among us, and were plotting to affect the weather in such a way as to make the planet uninhabitable for us, but perfect for them. Naturally, there was secrecy and cover-ups. Then the subject moved to the cell phone towers that were noted in rural areas of North Florida. This then lead to a question about the cell phone towers. First part of question lost.}

Q: (T)...transmit to us and back... what can be transmitted? Can the negative energy be focused through these microwave towers? (VG) And what was the correlation between the strange weather and the harvesting? (L) Because we were told that the weather changes were due to the energy buildup of the wave. That was two years ago. And it had nothing to do with the 'harvest.' (T) But it could also be that HAARP adds to it. (J) Ok, well, let's ask... (L) Well, they would love for us to think that HAARP has something to do with weather. 'Yes, we're having bizarre weather. Let's blame it on HAARP!' because we're going to think about HAARP... What a perfect... (T) Well, HAARP has a lot more to do than just the weather. They can put all the energy-based stuff that they've been experimenting on in one place, because they can do whatever they want, just by changing the frequencies... (J) Or, even just continue to mess the weather up, to continue to create negative vibrations, worry and uncertainty... (VG) I guess the point I'm trying to get at is, are these weather changes promoting some changes in the physical body, that's making the physical body more 'harvestable?' (T) Could very well be. (L) Well, it's all interconnected, but I wouldn't say that one is the cause of the other, just to say that they occur... (T) But why, as we were talking about earlier, is all this weird stuff going on all through the media?

A: We told you that "HAARP" was being designated for capturing and modulating electromagnetic fields for the purpose of total control of brainwave patterns in order to establish a system of complete "order on the surface of the planet" in either 3rd or 4th density.

Q: (L) Is HAARP in operation at the present time?

A: Yes, in its early stages.

Q: (T) Is the spreading of all these communication towers out across the country the equivalent of a HAARP program on a continental scale?

A: Back up system.

Q: (L) So, they don't need the towers to operate the HAARP system, but they are there as the backup?

A: Towers serve dual and lateral purposes.

Q: (T) Local and regional authorities can use the towers to track people, amongst other things. (L) Is the weather being controlled or changed or in any way affected by HAARP?

A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a fourth.

Q: (L) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three factors, and also the fourth!.

A: 1) Wave approach. 2) Chlorofluorocarbon increase in atmosphere, thus affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the planet's axis rotation orientation. 4) Artificial tampering by 3rd and 4th density STS forces in a number of different ways. Be vigilant. Be observant. Be cautious in your planning and be aware. Do not let emotional anomalies cloud your knowledge base. This is not a "time" to let one's guard down. Be especially careful of travel to unfamiliar locators, as well as sleeping in unfamiliar surroundings!!! You are being watched. Or, at least, it is best to assume you are, and act, think, and prepare accordingly. Remember what you have been warned about concerning attack. As you learn more and know more, you become more interesting... and, when your ranks swell, you are more vulnerable unless you are more aware!!

Q: (L) All right, were those given in the order in which they are occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming later?

A: Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the rotation may not be reported while it is imperceptible except by instrumentation. Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar zones. But, this discrepancy is decreasing slowly currently. One change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much, much faster than thought. [Discussion of new scientific theory recently presented that the earth is expanding.]

Q: (T) Is the Earth expanding? That's just putting it bluntly, but, is the Earth expanding, how did you put that? (A) Yes, that's the theory: the idea is that the continents move away because the Earth is expanding, and this is much faster than you know, than geologists were thinking.

A: Continental "drift" is caused by the continual though variable, propelling of gases from the interior to the surface, mainly at points of magnetic significance.

Q: (J) What causes the change in the axis?

A: By slow down of rotation. Earth alternately heats up and cools down in interior.

Q: (L) Why does it do that? What's the cause of this?

A: Part of cycle related to energy exerted upon surface by the frequency resonance vibrational profile of humans and others.

Q: (T) Now we took it off on a tangent. (L) Well, we need to wrap it up soon here. Is there anything further on this harvest, or on the planetery changes that we need to get to at this point?

A: Ask.

Q: (T) Ok, let's go back to the beginning of the session, when we were talking about the acceleration/expansion on underground bases in preparation for the harvest. Is that world-wide, we're talking here?

A: Yes, but United States is focus, due to particularly cooperative power structure profile.

Q: (T) Do we want to ask about the power structure profile? (L) No, we know what that is; they agreed to work with them. But, what I would like to know is what particular steps are being taken, what particular activities are being stepped up?

A: Acquisition, staging, testing of planned activity.


Q: (L) And what is the planned activity?

A: Control of absolutely everything.

Q: (L) Well, swell! (T) That's the one world government! That's what they want! (L) OK, is there anything in particular that we can do to...

A: Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. Awareness makes you less vulnerable, both directly and indirectly. Heard anything about synthetic blood, and blood and plasma alteration lately?

Q:(L) There's a can of worms for you! All right, I'll bite! Go ahead, tell us about the synthetic blood and the blood plasma. (T) There's probably been a lot of research into that...

A: Less "mutes" needed.

Q: (L) Cattle Mutilations. They don't need as many cattle mutilations. (T) It's the same idea as when they grew all the crystals for the stealth technology. Before they grew enough crystals to do what they had to do, you couldn't get any of the beryl, the aquamarine gemstones. They disappeared from the market. That's why aqua shot up in price. Several years ago, it used to cost $50 to $100 for a nice piece of aqua; it shot up to several hundred dollars... (L) Well, look what happened to topaz, same thing; the price was unbelievable. (Alice) But why? What are they using it for? (T) The beryl was being used, they have a certain crystal structure, that is reflective to light and electromagnetics. Heat is dispersed very evenly through them, that's why stonecutters like to cut those stones so much, because they disperse the heat and don't shatter as often while being cut. It's because of the composite material that they use to build the frames of the Stealth fighters and who knows what else. When they first began experimenting and working with it, they couldn't grow artificial beryl fast enough for what they needed, so they took as much as they could get of the natural stone. We discovered this because we were talking to someone at one of the gem and lapidary shows here locally, and they told us why there wasn't any aquamarine out anywhere. They said the government had gone out and bought up tons and tons of this stuff all over the world. They were crushing it up and mixing it with the composite materials used on the skins of the Stealth planes.

A: Bio and cyber/genetic humanoid types now increasing exponentially in general population. You may have already encountered one or two during the past 10 days.

Q: (L) You, who? You, as in me, you as in Frank, who?

A: Reflect upon activities, and power and influence centers for answer.

Q: (L) Well, we will reflect on that over the next week, but we're going to have to say goodnight for now.

A: If you wish. Goodbye.

End of Session
Session 12 July 1997

Q: In this underground bases book I have been reading, there are two old miners telling a story about falling through a hole in a mine into a city of gold with mummified soldiers sitting around a huge table, and a 98 foot tall, solid gold statue. I would like to know if this was just a story these guys made up?

A: Fable.

Q: So, they did not fall through a mine shaft into a city of gold in the Panamint Mountains?

A: The area around Death Valley does have many underground mysterious mysteries, but many have heard the legends.

Q: Okay. Just a general legend being repeated and embellished. I thought so. Now, I noticed when looking at the map that there is a place called "China Lake Naval Weapons Center" right next to Death Valley. I mean, aside from the fact that it is a NAVAL station nowhere near water, is this connected in anyway to these underground bases or cities?

A: In a circuitous way.

Q: I also notice that Edwards Air Force Base is a little to the South of there, and my guess is that these bases are connected to this underground tunnel system, these underground bases or cities. Am I going in the right direction?

A: Draw a line on the map to connect Death Valley, Edwards, and the Antelope Valley. Then connect with Mount Shasta, Mount Rainier, Back to Las Vegas, on to Sedona, over to the Archuleta Mesa, then on up to the Denver Airport.

Q: Well, speaking of the Denver Airport, Chloe may be going there soon because Samantha NOW has cancer to top off her lifetime of ongoing miseries. So, Chloe may be going out there. So, she will be close. Any comments?

A: Then have Chloe go to that airport, observe carefully, then report back her findings. Very important, because the murals there are directly connected to what you are studying carefully right now. Superclues to be found there, which can point to monstrous future plans of 4th density STS and much, much more. Be wary if Chloe resists the idea... This means something! Obviously it is not a hardship for her. But strongly suggest you keep your findings to within the group!

Q: Well, then, is it safe to go? I mean, has Samantha suddenly developed this "condition" just to lure Chloe out there? Does she really have as serious a condition as she says? Will she lose her nose?

A: It has been "blown out of proportion."

Q: Very cute! Well, I think that since
 

Justin

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Elon Musk is digging tunnels under Los Angeles. Maybe he'll find something down there! ;)
 

Joe

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In reading the transcripts, I think it is important to always keep in mind something said on several occasions, here is one of the more recent:

"In case you forgot, we once explained to you about the symbolic nature of communications between densities"
I understand that that concept might be a bit disturbing to some in the sense that it may require a reconsideration of a lot of what we have taken as 'fact', but I think it is necessary to keep it in mind at least.
 

c.a.

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Posted by: goyacobol
« on: July 10, 2017, 04:34:03 PM »
c.a.,
Well I can't say you didn't do the research for digging material. I just don't know anymore how to prove the current claims people are making. I guess it is a time resource problem that I am considering. With that being said, I am just too curious (so far) to not check out your hints.
Sorry goyacobol, I've not addressed your post. As I have lost my internet connection at the home base. And hope be back on line there soon (as i have to drive 30km to go on line).

Joe said:
In reading the transcripts, I think it is important to always keep in mind something said on several occasions, here is one of the more recent:

"In case you forgot, we once explained to you about the symbolic nature of communications between densities"
I understand that that concept might be a bit disturbing to some in the sense that it may require a reconsideration of a lot of what we have taken as 'fact', but I think it is necessary to keep it in mind at least.
Thanks Joe!

From a past post of a tour that i was part of and a self observation i book maked of that Quarrie site.
And that was that the supervisor, was a very big man. And had the Giant DNA genetic profile, IMHO.
_http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/vallejo-rock-quarry/view/google/
SYAR Industry's
_http://www.syar.com/locations.html

California Granite Quarries - List and Location of Individual Quarries
The Structural and Industrial Materials of California, Bulletin No. 38
_http://quarriesandbeyond.org/states/ca/ca-granite_quarries.html
California Counties Covered in This Section
To view historical stone and monument works in California, see the "Historical California Stone Carvers, Stone Cutters, & Monument Dealers" alphabetical list. (If you do not know the county in which a desired town or city is located, use the Town/City/County finder at RootsWeb to check on the county in which a California town is located.)
Alameda Alpine Amador Butte Calaveras
Colusa Contra Costa Del Norte El Dorado Fresno
Glenn Humboldt Imperial Inyo Kern
Kings Lake Lassen Los Angeles Madera
Marin Mariposa Mendocino Merced Modoc
Mono Monterey Napa Nevada Orange
Placer Plumas Riverside Sacramento San Benito
San Bernardino San Diego San Francisco San Joaquin San Luis Obispo
San Mateo Santa Barbara Santa Clara Santa Cruz Shasta
Sierra Siskiyou Solano Sonoma Stanislaus
Sutter Tehama Trinity Tulare Tuolumne
Ventura Yolo Yuba
 

goyacobol

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c.a. said:
Posted by: goyacobol
« on: July 10, 2017, 04:34:03 PM »
c.a.,
Well I can't say you didn't do the research for digging material. I just don't know anymore how to prove the current claims people are making. I guess it is a time resource problem that I am considering. With that being said, I am just too curious (so far) to not check out your hints.
Sorry goyacobol, I've not addressed your post. As I have lost my internet connection at the home base. And hope be back on line there soon (as i have to drive 30km to go on line).

Joe said:
In reading the transcripts, I think it is important to always keep in mind something said on several occasions, here is one of the more recent:

"In case you forgot, we once explained to you about the symbolic nature of communications between densities"
I understand that that concept might be a bit disturbing to some in the sense that it may require a reconsideration of a lot of what we have taken as 'fact', but I think it is necessary to keep it in mind at least.
Thanks Joe!

From a past post of a tour that i was part of and a self observation i book maked of that Quarrie site.
And that was that the supervisor, was a very big man. And had the Giant DNA genetic profile, IMHO.
_http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/vallejo-rock-quarry/view/google/
SYAR Industry's
_http://www.syar.com/locations.html

California Granite Quarries - List and Location of Individual Quarries
The Structural and Industrial Materials of California, Bulletin No. 38
_http://quarriesandbeyond.org/states/ca/ca-granite_quarries.html
California Counties Covered in This Section
To view historical stone and monument works in California, see the "Historical California Stone Carvers, Stone Cutters, & Monument Dealers" alphabetical list. (If you do not know the county in which a desired town or city is located, use the Town/City/County finder at RootsWeb to check on the county in which a California town is located.)
Alameda Alpine Amador Butte Calaveras
Colusa Contra Costa Del Norte El Dorado Fresno
Glenn Humboldt Imperial Inyo Kern
Kings Lake Lassen Los Angeles Madera
Marin Mariposa Mendocino Merced Modoc
Mono Monterey Napa Nevada Orange
Placer Plumas Riverside Sacramento San Benito
San Bernardino San Diego San Francisco San Joaquin San Luis Obispo
San Mateo Santa Barbara Santa Clara Santa Cruz Shasta
Sierra Siskiyou Solano Sonoma Stanislaus
Sutter Tehama Trinity Tulare Tuolumne
Ventura Yolo Yuba
c.a.,

I am not sure what you mean by "And had the Giant DNA genetic profile, IMHO." but this thread may be similar to a couple of others that are a challenge to our use of "curiosity".

Your thread here and these two other threads made me curious and I still struggle with run-away focus at times.

One is Barbara Marciniak) Pleiadians Planet X, DNA Activation and More

The one thread was a good example of how to deal with disinformation and curiosity. It is The Truth about Corey Goode. It seemed to become more murky as we tried to see through the disinformation. I suppose it is a matter of balance since we do have to observe as best we can.

Laura, points out how we can get off track and put ourselves at risk by not focusing on the more important aspects of the Work.

Laura said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: when you start to look into this stuff, all you will find is LIES and CONFUSION, and it is intended that way. Not only that, but if you look into it very long, if your curiosity engages with it when you do not have sufficient knowledge and being, you invite those energies into your life.

I wrote and published all I'm going to say on the topic because NOTHING can be proven and it is just an endless bait and switch game. We all saw what it did to Dolan and look who he's hanging with now. Sad.

The highest probability is that it is majorly hyperdimensional, our reality is extruded from/embedded in a "higher" reality that is not necessarily favorable to our kind, we may very likely be food. Okay, all that's been said. And it should really, REALLY, give one pause to consider poking around in that black hole. I did, and it nearly killed me. Ya'll have witnessed the kind of attack I've suffered for years. So, if ya'll want to get involved in it, go do it elsewhere.

For possible insight, read session 11 Jan 1997.
I hope you get a better internet connection soon, so you don't have to drive 30km to go on line.
 

sbeaudry

Jedi Master
goyacobol said:
c.a. said:
Posted by: goyacobol
« on: July 10, 2017, 04:34:03 PM »
c.a.,
Well I can't say you didn't do the research for digging material. I just don't know anymore how to prove the current claims people are making. I guess it is a time resource problem that I am considering. With that being said, I am just too curious (so far) to not check out your hints.
Sorry goyacobol, I've not addressed your post. As I have lost my internet connection at the home base. And hope be back on line there soon (as i have to drive 30km to go on line).

Joe said:
In reading the transcripts, I think it is important to always keep in mind something said on several occasions, here is one of the more recent:

"In case you forgot, we once explained to you about the symbolic nature of communications between densities"
I understand that that concept might be a bit disturbing to some in the sense that it may require a reconsideration of a lot of what we have taken as 'fact', but I think it is necessary to keep it in mind at least.
Thanks Joe!

From a past post of a tour that i was part of and a self observation i book maked of that Quarrie site.
And that was that the supervisor, was a very big man. And had the Giant DNA genetic profile, IMHO.
_http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/vallejo-rock-quarry/view/google/
SYAR Industry's
_http://www.syar.com/locations.html

California Granite Quarries - List and Location of Individual Quarries
The Structural and Industrial Materials of California, Bulletin No. 38
_http://quarriesandbeyond.org/states/ca/ca-granite_quarries.html
California Counties Covered in This Section
To view historical stone and monument works in California, see the "Historical California Stone Carvers, Stone Cutters, & Monument Dealers" alphabetical list. (If you do not know the county in which a desired town or city is located, use the Town/City/County finder at RootsWeb to check on the county in which a California town is located.)
Alameda Alpine Amador Butte Calaveras
Colusa Contra Costa Del Norte El Dorado Fresno
Glenn Humboldt Imperial Inyo Kern
Kings Lake Lassen Los Angeles Madera
Marin Mariposa Mendocino Merced Modoc
Mono Monterey Napa Nevada Orange
Placer Plumas Riverside Sacramento San Benito
San Bernardino San Diego San Francisco San Joaquin San Luis Obispo
San Mateo Santa Barbara Santa Clara Santa Cruz Shasta
Sierra Siskiyou Solano Sonoma Stanislaus
Sutter Tehama Trinity Tulare Tuolumne
Ventura Yolo Yuba
c.a.,

I am not sure what you mean by "And had the Giant DNA genetic profile, IMHO." but this thread may be similar to a couple of others that are a challenge to our use of "curiosity".

Your thread here and these two other threads made me curious and I still struggle with run-away focus at times.

One is Barbara Marciniak) Pleiadians Planet X, DNA Activation and More

The one thread was a good example of how to deal with disinformation and curiosity. It is The Truth about Corey Goode. It seemed to become more murky as we tried to see through the disinformation. I suppose it is a matter of balance since we do have to observe as best we can.

Laura, points out how we can get off track and put ourselves at risk by not focusing on the more important aspects of the Work.

Laura said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: when you start to look into this stuff, all you will find is LIES and CONFUSION, and it is intended that way. Not only that, but if you look into it very long, if your curiosity engages with it when you do not have sufficient knowledge and being, you invite those energies into your life.

I wrote and published all I'm going to say on the topic because NOTHING can be proven and it is just an endless bait and switch game. We all saw what it did to Dolan and look who he's hanging with now. Sad.

The highest probability is that it is majorly hyperdimensional, our reality is extruded from/embedded in a "higher" reality that is not necessarily favorable to our kind, we may very likely be food. Okay, all that's been said. And it should really, REALLY, give one pause to consider poking around in that black hole. I did, and it nearly killed me. Ya'll have witnessed the kind of attack I've suffered for years. So, if ya'll want to get involved in it, go do it elsewhere.

For possible insight, read session 11 Jan 1997.
I hope you get a better internet connection soon, so you don't have to drive 30km to go on line.
The quotes by Joe and Laura give pause. I think it's a fascinating topic but it's also important to put things into perspective and focus on more productive avenues of research. The tunnels and Antarctica are fascinating to me, but I don't want to get so far down the rabbit hole that I'm lunch because I wasn't well enough equipped to deal with what amounts to a very serious and very dangerous potential finding. I already have enough personal issues without inviting more on. Thank you, Goyacobol, for the reminder.

Where is Laura's quote above taken from? I didn't see it in this thread. Thank you for putting it here though, because I can get carried away sometimes with these sorts of topics. I'm drawn to them for whatever reason and it was a nice shock to the system.

Edit: Meant to bold all of Laura's quote.
 

c.a.

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goyacobol said:
I hope you get a better internet connection soon, so you don't have to drive 30km to go on line.
There is just a brief passing in one of the sessions that indicated that some, queries were possible entry points into the vast underground complex, of the SG.

Some, not all.

With the reference of the Rock Quarry in Vallejo, California (CA), US (_http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/vallejo-rock-quarry/view/google/) its latitude is 38.1530447, -122.2253701

Example 38.1002213,-117.3208912 take one to Tonopah Test Range Airport, Nye County, NV, United States (_https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Tonopah+Test+Range+Airport/@37.7953891,-116.7775008,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x80b96a95da3957cb:0xb6c327d3d2d7f810!8m2!3d37.7953849!4d-116.7753121


Mather AirForce Base Sac. Ca. 38.6360967,-121.6909663 (_https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Mather+Airport/@38.6360967,-121.6909663,10z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sSacramento+airforrce+base!3m4!1s0x0:0xa79ce509a535037d!8m2!3d38.5636029!4d-121.2971306)


Caves of Calaveras, CA, United States 38.3827058,-121.4663972 (_https://www.google.fr/maps/place/California+Cavern+State+Historic+Landmark/@38.3827058,-121.4663972,9z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sCalaveras+caves!3m4!1s0x0:0x389540e68fab97e1!8m2!3d38.2029808!4d-120.5090332)

Dugway Range Test Range Ut 39.9443917,-113.1204962 (_https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Dugway+Range/@39.9443917,-113.1204962,584m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x80b2915dd88220af:0x473646883c96d1c7!8m2!3d39.9443876!4d-113.1183075)

Utah Project- Area 52 Utah- UTTR- Dugway Range Part 2 - E4S2
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBTzcSkasg

Is there a link? Maybe.

SECRET WORLD OF UFOS & UNDERGROUND BASES! DARK JOURNALIST & DR. RICHARD SAUDER
Jan 14, 2017
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a0VzOn5tv8
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
And one last one. :whistle:

Denver International Airport (DEN)
39.8168686,-104.8044412
(_https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Denver+International+Airport+(DEN)/@39.8168686,-104.8044412,12z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sdenver+aiport!3m4!1s0x876c7f2a98ff44ff:0x49583bb435b59c6a!8m2!3d39.8560963!4d-104.6737376)
 
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