The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!

Persej

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WHERE HAVE ALL THE SUNSPOTS GONE? So far this year, the sun has been blank (without sunspots) 78% of the time. If this rate of spotlessness continues, 2020 will break the Space Age record for low sunspot counts. The previous record was set in 2019 with 77%. Two years in a row with so few sunspots adds up to a very deep Solar Minimum. Worried? Don't. The next solar cycle is coming.


Current Stretch: 20 days without sunspots.
 

goyacobol

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The sun on lockdown-as above so below?

@tschai,

I think you copied that just in time. They removed the crop loss and devastation of the world's food production part and put a disclaimer at the bottom of the article. Someone is very nervous about the truth I think.

The sun has entered a ‘lockdown’ period – but scientists dismiss ‘apocalypse’ theories
Disclaimer: A previous version of this article included misleading claims that the current solar minimum may be linked to extreme cold weather, crop loss, famine, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The scientific consensus disagrees with these claims, and the article has been amended.
 

Laura

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@tschai,

I think you copied that just in time. They removed the crop loss and devastation of the world's food production part and put a disclaimer at the bottom of the article. Someone is very nervous about the truth I think.

The sun has entered a ‘lockdown’ period – but scientists dismiss ‘apocalypse’ theories

Nevertheless, all of those effects WILL happen, as they have happened before during ice ages.

Are the people in charge of this planet total morons? Or just liars?
 

luc

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Are the people in charge of this planet total morons? Or just liars?

Reading Judy Mikovits' book Plague of Corruption right now, which I find really amazing, I'm currently thinking that these people are totally idiotic morons, AND selfish liars. The conspiracy probably happens at deeper levels we can't see, and all they need to do is subtly and occasionally steer things this or that way. How easy is it to manipulate moronic selfish idiots? Plus, those wreck havoc to everything anyway even without any "guidance". Just a thought.
 

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I'm currently thinking that these people are totally idiotic morons, AND selfish liars. The conspiracy probably happens at deeper levels we can't see, and all they need to do is subtly and occasionally steer things this or that way.
Most of what people perceive as "scientists", "NASA scientists" or whatever are in general idiots with fancy titles and diplomas, mostly computer geeks with no knowledge whatsoever in what's outside of their very narrow training. Their intellectual laziness and cowardice predispose them to follow the party-line, not because they are evil of part of some conspiracy, but because they know nothing else. Those however who pull the strings know how to manipulate the egomaniac geeks and use the public perception (because of a traumatizing schooling experience, they see them as 'smart' while it is only rarely true) to whatever end.
 

treesparrow

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Snow 20 feet deep remains at the end of May in Uttarakhand, India.

हेमकुंड साहिब में जमे 20 फीट तक ऊंचे हिमखंड, बर्फ से गुरुद्वारा भी ढका, सामने आई साल की पहली तस्वीरें...

Snowfall up to 20 feet high in Hemkund Sahib, snow gurdwara also covered, first pictures of the year surfaced ...

The world famous Hemkund Sahib is still snow-covered even in the month of May. The first and the most beautiful pictures of this year have also been revealed.


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The snow usually mostly gone in April. Gurudwara Shri Hemkund Sahib - Wikipedia
 

tschai

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Nevertheless, all of those effects WILL happen, as they have happened before during ice ages.

Are the people in charge of this planet total morons? Or just liars?
Both I should think- it’s getting harder for them to control the narrative and they have to make up more outrageous lies and do damage control more often. What will they do when it is in your face apparent they have been lying? They think they can skulk into their comfy bunkers and emerge into a brave new world whilst killing off the rank and file- they are in for a very rude awakening
 

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...and there was also the case against him from the British Columbia's leader of the Green Party, Andrew Weaver (case dismissed in 2018):
The Weaver defamation case involved an article Ball wrote saying that the IPCC had diverted almost all climate research funding and scientific investigation to anthropogenic global warming (AGW). This meant that there was virtually no advance in the wider understanding of climate and climate change. Ball referenced an interview with Weaver and attempts by a student to arrange a debate. Ball made some comments that were not fully substantiated, so they became the base of the defamation lawsuit.

That case was completely dismissed, you can read more here {reported Feb 14th, 2018}.

Apparently, he is about $800,000 behind in legal he seemed to say in the video below.

So, two years later (reported here April 30, 2020):

The B.C. Court of Appeal has found that climate scientist and former B.C. Green Party leader Andrew Weaver was defamed in an 2011 article written by global-warming skeptic Timothy Ball.

In a unanimous decision released Thursday, the Appeal Court set aside the trial judge’s dismissal of Weaver’s defamation lawsuit.
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“Applying the classic test of whether the words have a tendency to injure the person’s reputation in the estimation of reasonable right-thinking persons, the words were defamatory,” wrote Justice Susan Griffin.

“A reasonable person would read the article as alleging that Dr. Weaver was not professionally competent or qualified and was academically biased in his field of climate science.”

It was in the same month of 2018 that Griffin was appointed to the bench of the B.C Appeals Court, and thus now played a judicial role in overturning the Judge's original dismissal of Weaver's case. Here is what the Judge observed in 2018 and now the Judge's have decided that the 'classical test' weighs back in Weaver's favor.

By the way, Weaver was the author of some of the IPCC reports - back to the 2018 article link:

The second lawsuit was filed on behalf of Andrew Weaver. At the time he was a professor of computer modelling at the University of Victoria and author on four of the IPCC Science Reports (1995, 2001, 2007, 2013). After filing the lawsuit, he was elected to the BC Legislative Assembly as a member of the Green Party. He later was re-elected as the leader of the BC Green Party.

The following were the Judge's (Justice Skolrood) arguments to end the case and satisfy the 'test' back in 2018:

[77] In my view, it is very unlikely that the Article and the opinions expressed therein had an impact on the views of anyone who read it, including their views, if any, of Dr. Weaver as a climate scientist. Rather, the reasonably thoughtful and informed reader would have recognized the Article as simply presenting one side of a highly charged public debate.
[78] Second, despite professing to have been “saddened, sickened and dismayed” by the Article, I am not satisfied that Dr. Weaver himself perceived the Article as genuinely threatening his actual reputation. As noted, Dr. Weaver has been actively and publically engaged in the climate change discussion for many years. That included endorsing political candidates who advanced policies he agreed with and opposing candidates with whom he disagreed. It is also quite apparent that he enjoys the “thrust and parry” of that discussion and that he places little stock in opposing views such as those espoused by Dr. Ball, which Dr. Weaver characterized as “odd” and “bizarre”. Dr. Weaver went so far as to post the Article on his “wall of hate” located outside his office, alongside other articles and correspondence from “climate doubters”. It is apparent that he views such material as more of a “badge of honour” than a legitimate challenge to his character or reputation.

[82] The law of defamation provides an important tool for protecting an individual’s reputation from unjustified attack. However, it is not intended to stifle debate on matters of public interest nor to compensate for every perceived slight or to quash contrary view points, no matter how ill-conceived. Public debate on matters of importance is an essential element of a free and democratic society and lies at the heart of the Charter guarantee of freedom of expression. As Justice Lebel observes, such debate often includes critical and even offensive commentary, which is best met through engagement and well-reasoned rejoinder. It is only when the words used reach the level of genuinely threatening a person’s actual reputation that resort to the law of defamation is available. Such is not the case here.
[83] In summary, the Article is a poorly written opinion piece that offers Dr. Ball’s views on conventional climate science and Dr. Weaver’s role as a supporter and teacher of that science. While the Article is derogatory of Dr. Weaver, it is not defamatory, in that the impugned words do not genuinely threaten Dr. Weaver’s reputation in the minds of reasonably thoughtful and informed readers. Dr. Weaver has therefore failed to establish the first element of the defamation test.
[84] Given this finding, I need not consider whether Dr. Weaver has established that the Article was published in the sense that it was downloaded and read in BC by anyone other than him. I also need not address the defences raised by Dr. Ball.
Conclusion
[85] Dr. Weaver’s claim is dismissed. If the parties cannot agree on costs, they may make arrangements to speak to the issue.

However, Justice Dickson, Griffin and Abrioux saw it differently - Griffin:

“Applying the classic test of whether the words have a tendency to injure the person’s reputation in the estimation of reasonable right‑thinking persons, the words were defamatory,” stated Griffin. “A reasonable person would read the article as alleging that Dr. Weaver was not professionally competent or qualified and was academically biased in his field of climate science.”
:lol:

I guess that Griffin and co. did not find that when "Dr. Weaver went so far as to post the Article on his wall of hate located outside his office, alongside other articles and correspondence from “climate doubters” it was all good nurtured for his faculty and students to read.
 

Oxajil

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Just saw the following tweet by a Dutch researcher, he tweeted the following (with a figure as seen below):

"Just came back from Antarctica to measure ice again in case it melts and we all drown. Good news. Measurement May 29, 2020: ice is growing, more ice than in the last 3 years, and equal with the average of 1981-2000. Anyone want some ice?"


He links to the data here: Sea Ice Climate Indicators | cryo.met.no

And in case it wasn't mentioned yet: South Africa is seeing snow and record low temperatures (see here), -2 degrees Celsius!
 

Persej

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RECORD COLD IN THE MESOSPHERE: It's getting cold in the mesosphere. Very cold. "At polar latitudes (60N-80N) temperatures have been breaking 14-year records in the last few days," says Lynn Harvey of the University of Colorado Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics. This development is causing noctilucent clouds (NLCs) to spill out of the Arctic to middle latitudes.

"I've been waiting for years to see NLCs, and finally it happened!" reports Phil Halpert from London, England, on June 7th. He noticed their electric-blue ripples over local rooftops, then rushed out to photograph them in open sky over Clissold Park:



"This is the first time I have ever seen noctilucent clouds over London!" he says.

NLCs are Earth's highest clouds. Seeded by meteoroids, they float at the edge of space 83 km above the ground. The clouds form when summertime wisps of water vapor rise up to the mesosphere, allowing water to crystallize around specks of meteor smoke. Usually they are best seen after the summer solstice, but this year they are getting an early start.

What's happening? To find out, Harvey has been looking at data from NASA's Microwave Limb Sounder (MLS), which can sense conditions 83 km high where NLCs form. "These plots show that 2020 is shaping up to be a very cold and wet year," she says.



"Temperatures, in particular, are very cold," she says. "In fact, mid-latitude (35N-55N) temperatures in late May (DOY 142-148) were the coldest of the AIM record"--that is, since 2007 when NASA's AIM spacecraft began monitoring noctilucent clouds.

Last summer, NLCs spread as far south as Los Angeles and Las Vegas, setting records for low-latitude sightings. The growing chill today suggests this summer could be just as good--or maybe even better. In fact, the first sightings in the continental USA (Washington and Minnesota) have already happened.

Observing tips: The best time to look for NLCs is during the hours after sunset (or before sunrise) when the sun is more than 6 degrees below the horizon: diagram. If you see electric-blue tendrils spreading across the sky, take a picture and submit it here.

 
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