The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!

Looking around for sites about the current Arctic Sea ice extent in numbers, I ended up spending a good hour looking at a site from those who very much believe in AGW and it feels as if I just entered a different reality. The site is fairly professional with many contributors listed including Professor Peter Wadham, the man who since a number of years now every year announces that this will be the year that the Arctic will be ice free. :rolleyes:

_http://arctic-news.blogspot.ch/

They make their position quite clear early on about who is to blame:
There is no doubt that people's emissions are causing global warming and that this is causing more extreme weather to occur across the world.

Good to have that clear as for a moment I feared that it would be pinned on the flatulent cows. :P

Just 6 weeks ago, they said on the site that all the arctic sea ice could be gone by September. :scared:

_http://arctic-news.blogspot.ch/2017/08/arctic-sea-ice-may-well-be-gone-by-september-2017.html
Arctic sea ice may well be gone by September 2017

The Arctic Ocean is warming up fast and this is melting the sea ice from below.

Sea surface temperature anomalies are well above 8°C (14.4°F) in several parts of the Arctic Ocean.

The image on the right shows sea surface temperature anomalies from 1961-1990 for the Arctic (60°N - 90°N) on August 2, 2017.

Global sea ice extent is at a record low for the time of the year, as illustrated by the graph below, by Wipneus. Lower sea ice extent means that less sunlight is reflected back into space.

Again a site that likes to use the climate normals from 1961-1990 as a baseline, so as to increase their arguments. And the graph that they use don't match other maps that are around such as from from DMI and Nansen. And regarding the warm spots then one can always cherrypick localised areas where it is 'abnormally' warm and then just extrapolate.

They also think it is likely that global temperatures could rise by 10° celcius by 2026. :rotfl:

Here is a graph they produce:

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So the temperature rose just over 1 degree Celcius from 1750 until 2012 and then they want you to seriously consider the idea that in the following 14 years the temperature will rise by 9 degrees!?! In order to make the case, they add new elements that have never played a role according to their own admission and then it is just a matter of fiddling with the curve until the desired alarmist result manifest. Next step is to feed it into a model and bingo, a model now predicts that the globe will heat by 10° Celcius by 2026.

In the post they even add this:
Such a rise could take place even more rapidly, as discussed in earlier posts.


Interestingly after an hours visit to their site and reading some of their articles, it felt very similar to reading some of the SJW sites. Completely disconnected from reality and very ideologically driven.
 
Aeneas said:
Here is a graph they produce:

10C-18F-stack.png


So the temperature rose just over 1 degree Celcius from 1750 until 2012 and then they want you to seriously consider the idea that in the following 14 years the temperature will rise by 9 degrees!?! In order to make the case, they add new elements that have never played a role according to their own admission and then it is just a matter of fiddling with the curve until the desired alarmist result manifest. Next step is to feed it into a model and bingo, a model now predicts that the globe will heat by 10° Celcius by 2026.[emphasis added - griffin]

Just looking at that graph, it's obvious that the most dramatic increase projected for the next 10 years is in the element category labeled "aerosols", which appears to ramp up quickly from zero to 10 times or more its initial value. This appears to be one part of a sleight-of-hand maneuver on the part of the warmist financial fraud conspiracy, in that the Gates Foundation and associated plutocrats plan to start dispensing aerosols high in the atmosphere in large quantities in order to help minimize global warming they claim.

If you see how this works, on the one hand a group of warmist fraudsters plan to distribute lots of gawd-knows-what (probably excess fluoride or aluminum, whatever they have) under the claim that it will aid in holding down manmade warming, and... on the other hand, other warmist so-called 'scientists' claim that aerosols will drive global warming.

These are nothing less than parts of a plan for financial fraud on civilization-wide scale.
 
Laura said:
Okay, Aeneas and Griffin, that's another article!!!

Okay, I will put something together in the next couple of days. I will have to look into aerosols a bit first and what they both mean by that term. Griffin if you have thoughts, links or feel to write more, then feel free and I will incorporate it.

It almost belongs in the category "Don't Panic, Lighten up", if you know what I mean. It is amazing how it almost hurts to look into these sites for any length of time. I guess it could be due to the ideological zealotry found there and the use of information selection and substitution.
 
Winter Storm Warning Issued For WY & MT | Up To 20″ of Snow Is Forecasted Tonight – Saturday Thursday September 14, 2017 (Graphs)
https://snowbrains.com/winter-storm-warning-issued-for-wy-mt-up-to-20-of-snow-is-forecasted-tonight-saturday/

The National Weather Service has issued a Winter Storm Warning for Montana and Idaho. This is in effect from Tonight – Saturday.

This is the FIRST Winter Storm Warning in the Continental USA this season!

A strong fall storm is expected to hit the west late this week into the weekend. Cold temperatures are expected to arrive along with it, which will turn rain into snow.

Up To 20″ of Snow Is Forecasted To Fall.

NOAA Has Issued Winter Storm Warnings For:
•Montana
•Wyoming

NOAA Has Issued Winter Storm Watches For:
•Idaho
•Montana
•Wyoming

NOAA Has Issued Winter Weather Advisories For:
•Idaho
•Montana
•Wyoming

Snow levels will start out around 7,000ft on Thursday Night and drop below 6,000ft by the time Friday Morning rolls around.

Idaho: Up To 10″ of Snow Tonight – Saturday Morning

* Accumulations: Snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches, with up to 10
inches on mountain peaks above 7000 feet.
- NOAA Missoula, MT Today

Montana: 14+” of Snow Tonight – Saturday Morning

* SNOW ACCUMULATION...8 to 14 inches above 7,000 feet, with
locally higher amounts possible. Greatest totals will be on
north facing slopes.
- NOAA Billings, MT Today

Wyoming: Up To 20″ of Snow Tonight – Saturday Morning

* SNOW AMOUNTS...4 to 8 inches above 7500 feet, 8 to 14 inches
above 9000 feet.
- NOAA Riverton, WY Today
 
http://notrickszone.com/2017/09/15/as-la-nina-looms-warmists-skid-into-panic-mode-global-warming-pause-set-to-surpass-two-decades/

[...]
La Nina powers in

The global warming alarmists are in sheer desperation and panic, as made evident by their hysterically shrill reactions to the recent hurricanes. The latest forecast shows a return to La Nina conditions (and a global cool-down).

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The above chart shows La Nina conditions expected to persist into spring, 2018. This cooling will make itsself evident in satellite data with a lag of about 6 months. This means global temperature will fall even further next year, which means the warming pause will go beyond 20 years.
[...]

Frigid winter projected for Europe

The recent winter projection for Europe issued by Meteociel below shows Europe possiby being gripped by a frigid winter. If the prognosis holds, it could be one of the coldest in years:

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Meteociel/CFS prognosis from 30 August 2017, 850 hPa temperature deviation from the mean (about 1500m) in Europe for the 2017/18 winter. For Europe very icy conditions are expected (from left to right: December, January, February). Source: www.meteociel.fr/php

Arctic sea ice rebound

Also the Arctic has shown recovery over the past years. This year’s Arctic sea ice for mid September is about a full 1 million sq. km. over the record low set 5 years ago.

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Overall Arctic sea ice has remained stable for the past 10 years, surprising global warming scientists. Source: National Snow and Ice Data center (NSIDC).
 
angelburst29 said:
Winter Storm Warning Issued For WY & MT | Up To 20″ of Snow Is Forecasted Tonight – Saturday Thursday September 14, 2017 (Graphs)
https://snowbrains.com/winter-storm-warning-issued-for-wy-mt-up-to-20-of-snow-is-forecasted-tonight-saturday/

Gotta love the news casters wipe some egg off there face, as the Al Gore climate-gate leaves-em all hanging high...............LOL

09-15-2017 Mirror Lake, Utah 1st Snowfall of the Season

https://youtu.be/DDef7q0Ruyk?rel=0&showinfo=0

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Utah
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Denver
Published on Sep 15, 2017 (0:49)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7D3OFiu3oI
The start of fall is one week away but leaves have already started changing in Colorado's high country.

Mt Buller-16 Sept Snow Report (1:15) Australia
Published on Sep 15, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2uZe0RDQMs

Winter is Coming: Snow Arrives In Northern Rockies
September 15, 2017
https://weather.weatherbug.com/news/Winter-is-Coming-Snow-Targets-Northern-Rockies-La
Although the calendar still reads September and many parts of the U.S. are still dealing with sizzling temperatures, parts of the lower 48 will see snow through Saturday.

The taste of winter is thanks to an autumn storm moving out of the Rockies and into the Plains. As colder air wraps around the back side of this system, rain showers will mix with and change to snow across the higher elevations of western Montana, northwestern Wyoming and eastern Idaho.

Winter Storm Warnings are in effect the mountains of western Montana, northwestern Wyoming and extreme eastern Idaho and a Winter Weather Advisory is in effect across northwestern Wyoming, including Yellowstone National Park.

Snowfall accumulations could reach 4 to 8 inches above 7,000 feet, with as much as 16 to 20 inches above 9,500 feet. Even at pass level, a few inches of wet snow are possible. Drivers along the highways of the region, including Interstates 15 and 90, are urged to use caution if travelling through this region, and hikers should be prepared for much colder than normal temperatures and significant snowfall accumulations.
Already today, the National Weather Service is receiving reports of 6 to 8 inches in the higher elevations of western Montana.

Now is a good time to start putting together a winter supply kit, especially if you plan to travel in snowy conditions much during the winter months. Blankets, batteries, extra food, clothing and a flashlight are among the items that should be kept in a vehicle just in case you become stranded in cold-weather conditions.

Potent storms to roll across northwestern US into next week Video (1:57)
September 16, 2017, 4:06:55 AM EDT
_https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/potent-storms-to-roll-across-northwestern-us-into-next-week/70002735
Following the first significant storm of the season across the interior northwestern United States, more rounds of rain, snow and chilly air are in store into next week.

The fall and winter months are when the Northwestern states receive the bulk of their yearly precipitation.

On Friday, the interior Northwest and northern Plains received a chilly, but beneficial soaking rain as the first storm swept through the region. Parts of the northern Rockies received up to 8 inches of snow.

Rain and snow showers will continue over these areas through Saturday.

Storms of this magnitude will only become more frequent as we head through late September and October, according to AccuWeather Meteorologist Jordan Root.

There will only be a brief break before the next storm arrives at the coast to end the weekend.

“A strong system will push into coastal areas of the Pacific Northwest, leading to what could be significant rain coming into Oregon and Washington Sunday night into Monday before pushing into the northern Rockies by Tuesday,” AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Jack Boston said.

Roads could be slippery at the onset of rain along Interstate 5 due to oil buildup from the recent dry stretch.

Another significant push of chilly air will follow in the storm’s wake.

There is a good chance for more snow above 5,000 feet in elevation, according to Boston.

The Cascades and Blue Mountains will likely see their first flakes of the season early next week.

Snow will top off the peaks of the northern Rockies and could trigger another round of slippery travel.

Residents and travelers should anticipate slower commutes on the roads and possible delays at the airports during the wet and wintry pattern next week.

“Temperatures will continue to run below normal through the first half of next week behind the system, with patchy clouds and scattered showers,” Boston said.

The press of cool air will be far-reaching, knocking temperatures below normal in Sacramento and Fresno, California; Reno and Las Vegas, Nevada; and Salt Lake City, Utah.

A more potent storm could plow into the Pacific Northwest around the middle of next week.

The stormy pattern will help to slash the severe to exceptional drought that has been occurring in the region, as well as douse wildfires that have seared the Northwest this summer and have led to weeks of poor air quality.

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Aeneas said:
thorbiorn said:
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thorbiorn said:
In a recent article only published in Danish, as far as I can sea, they write the arctic sea ice has received first aid from a cold summer. In a slightly improved machine translations it reads as follows where two illustrations have been attached and the text below put last.
_http://www.dmi.dk/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder-2017/september/havisen-fik-foerstehjaelp-af-kold-sommer/ said:
Artic ice received first aid from cold summer
In a short period of time during Summer there are plus degrees in the central Arctic. It changes the way the ice responds significantly.

The sea ice was weakened and vulnerable before the end of the melting season, but was temporarily saved by a cold summer in the Arctic.

The sun is low in the horizon at the north Pole, and the temperature in the glaciated area has dropped below the freezing point. Nevertheless, the melting continues for the ice at the lower latitudes along the edge of the arctic sea ice, which is on its way toward its annual minimum in the distribution in the middle of September.

"The weather conditions during the Summer has once again been critical for the ice's health," says ice researcher, Rasmus Tonboe.This is also a common strategy that a have noticed. When it is cold, it is due to weather, when it is warm, it is due to global warming
"The Summer in the Arctic was marked by minor depressions with a cold core. It has given relatively cold weather above the ice, avoiding a record low spread in the year".

A repetition of 2016
In the fall of 2016, it became clear that the arctic sea ice would get weakened in the melting season 2017. It did, but the cold weather in the polar area has therefore slowed down the net melting.

It does not mean however that the ice is in recovery. There are missing huge amounts of ice in the Beaufort Sea and in the Tjukter Sea which back in the 1980s was covered with old and thick ice. Heavens forbid that we might get to think that the ice is in recovery. So, one can always go far enough back into the past and find a time when there was more ice in certain areas. Heck, if needed we will just go back 20000 years to prove our point of Global warming, manmade of course.

"The situation now is very similar to that of last year at the same time. The temperatures in the sea that surrounds the ice is up to 4 degrees warmer than normal in some places. It is high. It is especially Baffin Bay, Hudson Bay, and in the East Siberian Sea, which is warmer than they used to be. In the East Siberian Sea the water temperature up to 10 degrees. It is quite unusual," says the ice researcher.
Very similar, he says? Did he go into winter hibernation early and thus didn't look at the recent maps of ice melt compared to last year? It appears that there are around a few hundred thousand sqkm more ice this year than last year.
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_http://www.dmi.dk/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder-2017/september/havisen-fik-foerstehjaelp-af-kold-sommer/ said:
The warm water around the ice in the Arctic is contributing to the continued melt for a few more weeks, but already now there are lurking new problems.

"We have a situation that is very similar to the from 2016. Also here was the water temperature high, and there was more open water than usual. If it repeats itself this year, and it seems to, then we get again a stunted and slow growth of the ice through the fall and going into 2018 with a weakened and vulnerable ice," concludes Rasmus Tonboe.

The arctic loses 94.000 km2 per year

Rasmus Tonboe, has previously analyzed the sea ice in the period from 1978 to today. His data shows that the area of the arctic sea ice annual decrease with 94.000 km2 of the summer minimum of sea ice in September. 94.000 km2 is more than the double of Denmark's land area.

The sea ice in the Arctic is important for the climate, because it has a high so-called albedo. High albedo means that ice reflects large amounts of sunlight back out into space, so it does not convert to hot. When the ice is gone, it is replaced by the dark ocean surface. The sea surface reflects very little sunlight, but allows instead a large part of the light to be converted into heat. The heat of the water has the potential to melt even more sea ice, thus amplifying the process.

Since 2007, the arctic ice coverage in Summer has remained at a level significantly lower than in the 1970's, 80'ies and 90'ies. The lower level is a consequence of the rising temperature in the Arctic and general thinning of the sea ice. Climate models suggest that the trend will continue, and that we are already in the middle of the 21. century is experiencing its first ice-free summer in the Arctic.
It has to have the prediction of no ice in the mid century. It is a subtle bit of propaganda that is meant to stay with the readers, me thinks
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I saved copies of the ice coverage chart and began analysis What this analysis shows is what such a comparison of the ice coverage, using a geometry program, GeoGebra, could look like. Attached are two pictures, GeoGebra 1 and 2.
Comments to GeoGebra1:

In order for the calculations to be reasonably accurate, one needs to zoom in on the picture, when placing the points. GeoGebra can do that once the picture is inserted.

Lowest point,so far, for 2017 is marked as (C) and the lowest point for 2016 is marked as (D).

The picture was aligned with the coordinate axis. Perpendicular lines from point C (line h) and D (line g) to the line x=0 are shown in the above picture.

In the above graph, the time for the lowest amount of ice coverage in 2016 occurred later than the date of this picture. From the illustration, one reads that most of the yearly minimal extent of the ice occurred later than the time of the latest recording for 2017. Thus, this analysis thus the calculation for 2017 might change, but probably not much.

Comment to GeoGebra2:
In the picture, the points on the axis of the picture measuring the extent, F and E, are at 6 and 4 million square km. Line h from point C meets the axis at G, the line g meets the axis at point H. With GeoGebra one first asks the program to draw a line between point E and point F and between point G and point H. Then one uses the function in the program to determine the length of |EF| and |GH|.

The difference between the lowest level in 2016 compared with that at the time of Aeneas’ posting is |EF|/GH|*2 10^6 km^2= (0.23/0.93)*2*10^6 km*2 =0.494623 *10^6 km^2 ~ 5.0 *10^5 km^2 That is half a million square kilometers more ice cover than last year around the time of the minimum ice cover.
 

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Session 22 February 1997

Q: (L) All right, were those given in the order in which they are occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming later?

A: Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the rotation may not be reported while it is imperceptible except by instrumentation. Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar zones. But, this discrepancy is decreasing slowly currently. One change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much, much faster than thought. [Discussion of new scientific theory recently presented that the earth is expanding.]


I have been thinking about why the glacial rebound might occur quite rapidly once the process is nudged into action. I am only average when it comes to many concepts so I so looking at what the Cs have said can "develop much, much, much faster than thought" , thinking that it might be related to the simple ice tray experiment where it has been noticed that warm water freezes faster than cold water.

Science! This is Why Hot Water Can Freeze Faster Than Cold Water

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Last week researchers at the School of Electrical and Electronic Engineering at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore proposed what might be the most plausible explanation yet for the Mpemba effect [PDF].

You've probably heard before that hot water freezes faster than cold water—that's the Mpemba effect. I remember when my older sister told me that when we were kids. I didn't believe her then and went on not believing her for many years. It's the kind of thing that has the ring of an old wives' tale.

But let's get one thing straight: there's not really any debate about the fact that the Mpemba effect exists. It has been observed in numerous controlled experiments.* Aristotle first noted its existence when he wrote about how ice fishermen would heat up water to get it to freeze faster over two millennia ago. The effect is named after the Tanzanian Erasto Mpemba, who, as a secondary school student in 1963, noticed that hot ice cream mixes would freeze faster than cold ice cream mixes. His question to guest lecturer Dr. Denis G. Osborne, "If you take two similar containers with equal volumes of water, one at 35 °C (95 °F) and the other at 100 °C (212 °F), and put them into a freezer, the one that started at 100 °C (212 °F) freezes first. Why?" was initially mocked, but Osborne later reproduced Mpemba's results and co-authored a paper with him explaining the observations in 1969.

*And no, your buddy who says, "One time I filled an ice cube tray with hot water and another with cold and the cold froze faster," doesn't count as a controlled experiment.

It's completely counterintuitive and seems to violate the basic laws of thermodynamics. To be clear, what we're saying here is that under certain conditions, the total time it takes for a volume of warm water to freeze will be smaller than the total time it takes for an equal volume of cold water to freeze, given the exact same external temperature. It's a really strange thing. I mean, at some point in the process, doesn't the warm water reach the exact same initial state as the cold water? And if so, why does that cold-water-that-was-recently-hot freeze faster than the water that started out cold? It's left folks scratching their heads or outright denying its existence for decades.

Since then, numerous explanations have been put forth to try and explain the phenomenon, but none have been much more than plausible-sounding theories. Here are a few of them:

Theory: Convection currents in the warm water caused by large temperature differentials will cause it to cool more rapidly, and those convection currents continue even after the water has dropped to the same temperature as the cooler water, thus allowing it to overtake the cooler water in freezing.*

*Problem: Water is pretty viscous stuff and convection currents like that will not continue to flow for the time it takes to cool the water.

Theory: Hot water evaporates. Less water left behind means less water to freeze.**

**Problem: Even accounting for evaporation, hot water has been observed to freeze faster than cold.

Theory: Hot water creates convection patterns in the air inside a freezer, which increases its cooling efficiency.***

***Problem: You can run an experiment with hot and cold trays in the same freezer and still observe the warm one to freeze faster than the cool one.

Theory: Cold water freezes in a layer on top, creating insulation and preventing the rest from cooling very fast.****

****Problem: The hot water will also form this frost layer.

The experimental problems are large because there are so many variable to control—aside form starting temperatures, there's also the shape of the freezer, the volume and shape of the container, the insulative properties of the container, the dissolved solids in the water, etc. Up until last week's paper, the most plausible work done was by interested lay-person James Brownridge, who proposed that heating water changes the nature of its impurities, which in turn alters its freezing point (he observed that most water actually supercools beyond 0°C and doesn't begin to crystallize until significantly below this temperature).

The new paper claims that there's actually a chemical explanation for the effect, and one that mathematically fits observed data—as far as I know, the first explanation to be able to do so.

Water molecules consist of two hydrogen molecules attached to an oxygen molecule primarily through strong covalent bonds. Normally, covalent bonds will soften and lengthen as they are heated. But in water, because of the unique properties of hydrogen bonds—the interaction between the hydrogen atoms in one water molecule and the oxygen molecule in a neighboring molecule—the opposite effect happens. As a body of water absorbs energy, the hydrogen bonds will stretch (causing individual water molecules to move apart from each other), but the covalent bonds within each molecule become shorter and stiffer—the same thing that happens when water freezes.

So on an individual molecular level, heated water more closely resembles frozen water than the initial colder water did. More importantly, the rate at which the energy in these shrunken covalent bonds is released dependent exponentially on how much energy was initially stored. Effectively, hot water has energy wound up like a spring which gets released when you begin to cool it, allowing it to cool and freeze faster.

Neat, huh?

The "Neat, huh?" is part the above quote so I am reserving judgement on how "neat" this would be. :/


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Good share SocietyoftheSpectacle! Friends of Science also came out with this video I am sharing below, which picks apart a number of the broad claims about there being a "97% consensus" that CO2 is going to destroy the environment and civilization along with it.


https://youtu.be/hJujb-VnaCM

The main conclusion was that none of those surveys can be replicated to demonstrate a value even remotely close to 97%, and also that which scientists purport to have consensus on is very nebulous. For some it just means something as innocuous as "humans have some impact on the climate", and for others it can mean something as extreme as "CO2 is going to kill us all". What's also interesting is how the video later on goes into the psychology of herd mentality that consensus helps to enforce to create self-censorship among scientists and others interested in the facts. What's more damning is that these labels of "deniers" and "conspiracy theorists" were actually first used not by climate scientists to describe the skeptics, but rather by social psychologists who are well aware of the ramifications of such manipulative language. The presenter also recommended the book "How to Lie with Statistics", which is now on my reading list.
 
Cold Arrives Early in the Northern Hemisphere | Mini Ice Age 2015-2035 (456)
Adapt 2030 Published on Sep 18, 2017

https://youtu.be/NY1Q3qE1hKU?rel=0&showinfo=0

Trail Ridge Road reopen after snow, ice force closure
Updated at 07:02PM, September 16, 2017
_http://kdvr.com/2017/09/16/high-mountains-get-snow-trail-ridge-road-closed-due-to-snow-and-ice/
ROCKY MOUNTAIN NATIONAL PARK, Colo. — Snow and icy conditions forcedthe closure of Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park Saturday morning. Fall River Road also closed in the park.

There were reports that some vehicles became stuck because of the winter driving conditions. It was closed at Rainbow Curve on the east and at the Alpine Visitor Center on the west.

The temperature at the Alpine Visitor Center was 28 degrees at 8 a.m.

Both roads reopened by midday Saturday.

Trail Ridge Road climbs to an elevation of 12,183 feet above sea level. It’s the highest continuous road in the United States.

Many places in Colorado’s higher mountains had new snow on them Saturday morning.

The Colorado State Patrol shared a picture of snow along I-70 at the Eisenhower Tunnel.

The folks at Winter Park Resort shared a photo of snow on their peaks with us.

The high in Denver was forecast in the low 70s Saturday
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Lake Tahoe sees first snowfall of 2017-18 season
Claire Cudahy/Tahoe Daily Tribune September 14, 2017
_http://www.steamboattoday.com/news/lake-tahoe-sees-first-snowfall-of-2017-18-season/
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Lake Tahoe had its first snowfall of the season on Tuesday, Sept. 13.

Kirkwood Mountain Resort reported around 3 to 4 inches of wet snow early in the morning. The resort’s base is at 7,800 feet.

Sierra-at-Tahoe, located at 8,800 feet, also reported snow.

“Much cooler temperatures along with showers and isolated thunderstorms are in store for today,” the U.S. National Weather Service Reno Nevada posted on Facebook Wednesday morning.

“Upper level low over California and Nevada is destabilizing the atmosphere and allowing scattered showers already this morning. There is still a bit of uncertainty with regards to how much precipitation will fall and where, as computer simulations still can’t agree on it this morning!”

The agency said the region could expect to see up to 0.25 inches of precipitation as well as a couple of inches of snow above 9,000 feet Wednesday.

The remainder of the week and into the weekend there will be a gradual warming trend along with dry conditions.

WINTER IS COMING: Polar chill to savage UK with SNOW, frost and hail for four day freeze
Published 15th September 2017
_http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/644998/uk-weather-forecast-weekend-snow-polar-chill
A TASTE of winter is forecast to shiver Britain over the next four days with snow, frost, hail and temperatures close to freezing.
A blast of freezing air from the Arctic is set to send temperatures plummeting across the UK over the weekend and into next week.

The Met Office said the bitterly cold winds are being blown towards the UK by the remnants of Storm Aileen.

Aileen – the first named storm of the season – slammed into the UK with 75mph winds earlier this week, causing damage to buildings, flooding and travel chaos.

With the end of summer approaching, colder more autumn-like weather is beginning to melt away hopes of a sunny September.

The cold spell starts after an inch of show – the first since last winter – fell over Ben Nevis in the Scottish Highlands on Wednesday.

There is a chance of further snow flurries over the weekend on higher Scottish peaks, the forecaster has warned.

Temperatures are expected to dip to as low as 3C overnight with localised frost in the Midlands, northern England and Scotland.

All regions are at risk of being hit by hail.

Met Office forecaster Grahame Madge said: “Colder Arctic maritime air is being funnelled to Britain by the remnants of Storm Aileen.

“There is a risk of snow flurries on the highest mountains with sleet possible lower down.

“Low levels do not have a snow or sleet risk, but could see hail anywhere.

“Frost could be seen locally in the Peak District, Pennines and Scotland.

A Weather Channel forecaster said: “Sleet or light snow is likely at any time on higher Highlands for the next five days.

“A chilly northerly wind means the risk of isolated frost in the North.”

“3C nights are forecast in Manchester, with 6C in the South, and daytime highs a little below average.

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WHITEOUT: Snow is forecast to fall in the Scottish Highlands over the weekend

Snow alerts issued for several East Idaho communities
Idaho State Journal staff Sep 15, 2017
_https://www.rexburgstandardjournal.com/news/idaho/snow-alerts-issued-for-several-east-idaho-communities/article_3588f4aa-283c-59e5-92f1-baf1d84e8e76.html
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The weather service said that although it might seem unusual to see snow in the forecast anywhere in East Idaho this time of year, snow in September in the region is not a rare occurrence.

The storm that's forecast to arrive Monday could bring more mountain snow to East Idaho both Monday and Tuesday. No storm warnings have yet been issued about that weather system but those can be expected if the forecast holds.

Both storms are forecast to bring colder than normal temperatures to East Idaho. Daytime highs Friday and Saturday and Monday and Tuesday are expected to be in the 50s and 60s while nighttime lows will be in the 30s. Daytime and nighttime temps in East Idaho's mountain areas could be even colder.

Temperatures are expected to be cold enough even in East Idaho's lower elevations to create some morning frost.
 
Aeneas said:
_http://www.dmi.dk/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder-2017/september/havisen-fik-foerstehjaelp-af-kold-sommer/ said:
The warm water around the ice in the Arctic is contributing to the continued melt for a few more weeks, but already now there are lurking new problems.

"We have a situation that is very similar to the from 2016. Also here was the water temperature high, and there was more open water than usual. If it repeats itself this year, and it seems to, then we get again a stunted and slow growth of the ice through the fall and going into 2018 with a weakened and vulnerable ice," concludes Rasmus Tonboe.

The arctic loses 94.000 km2 per year

Rasmus Tonboe, has previously analyzed the sea ice in the period from 1978 to today. His data shows that the area of the arctic sea ice annual decrease with 94.000 km2 of the summer minimum of sea ice in September. 94.000 km2 is more than the double of Denmark's land area.

The sea ice in the Arctic is important for the climate, because it has a high so-called albedo. High albedo means that ice reflects large amounts of sunlight back out into space, so it does not convert to hot. When the ice is gone, it is replaced by the dark ocean surface. The sea surface reflects very little sunlight, but allows instead a large part of the light to be converted into heat. The heat of the water has the potential to melt even more sea ice, thus amplifying the process.

Since 2007, the arctic ice coverage in Summer has remained at a level significantly lower than in the 1970's, 80'ies and 90'ies. The lower level is a consequence of the rising temperature in the Arctic and general thinning of the sea ice. Climate models suggest that the trend will continue, and that we are already in the middle of the 21. century is experiencing its first ice-free summer in the Arctic.
It has to have the prediction of no ice in the mid century. It is a subtle bit of propaganda that is meant to stay with the readers, me thinks
Text to attached pictures from the DMI website
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The ocean temperature in the Arctic 7. september 2017, expressed as deviations from the normal. It is evident, that the water is relatively warm. Graphics from the _ocean.dmi.dk. Click for big version.

2)
The temperature (red curve) in the Arctic in 2017. In the course of the winter and up to ca. day 120 (1. may), it was much warmer than normal (green curve). In turn, it was then a bit cooler over the summer. Graphics from the _ocean.dmi.dk. Click for a larger version.
Perhaps what influences the scientists at DMI is more the arctic ice than a not so warm summer in Denmark.

The sea ice article also tries to hide how much more or less ice there is this year compared to 2007 or just last year and does not mention the extent. It might be interesting if there is equal amount of ice this year compared to 2007. It is true that there has been a loss since 1978, but that does not reflect what is happening now and what has happened in the last decade. It would be more of interest to know how much has the average ice loss been in the last decade.

Greenland has also seen a net gain this year, which should be newsworthy for DMI who keeps a track of it. It should be even celebrated by them as they believe that global warming is a catastrophe. But instead of popping the champagne bottles, they hide this celebratory event. So I am inclined to judge them by their fruits rather than speculate that they really mean well. They have a job and know where the funding comes from, so it pays for them to follow this AGW agenda. One can not exclude that there aren't perhaps some in DMI who can see what is going on, but they are keeping a low profile.

Steven Goddard has written a post showing how the Arctic sea ice has been stable over the last 10 years in this post: https://realclimatescience.com/2017/09/little-change-in-arctic-sea-ice-since-1971/

Goddard also points to that there are records of Arctic Sea ice that goes further back than 1978 and that 1979 had quite a bit more ice than 1973, so choosing 1979 or 1978 had the advantage of highlighting loss, when it might not have been so dramatic.

NOAA claims they don’t have satellite data before 1979, but they are lying. The 1990 IPCC report showed NOAA satellite data back to 1973, which was much lower than 1979.

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In fact, there is good ice data going back to the 1920’s, which shows that ice extent was very low in the 1940’s and 1950’s.

In the post Goddard shows how much ice there was in 1971 compared to 2017:

The next image overlays the two. Green is 2017 and red is 1971. There is a little bit less ice thank 1971. Also note that the 1971 ice edge was inside of the NSIDC pink median line.

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Government agencies like NOAA, NASA and NSIDC start their sea ice graphs in 1979, in order to make it look like there is a linear decline in sea ice.
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Another blog gives the values of the last 10 years for maximum and minimum: _https://lenbilen.com/2017/09/18/arctic-ice-growing-again-8th-lowest-minimum-this-year/

Arctic ice growing again. 8th lowest minimum this year.

After a record warm winter in the Arctic last year leading to the lowest ice maximum, the ice melted at the slowest rate recorded, leading to the 8th lowest ice minimum.
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If one compares 2017 with 2007 then one can see that there has been a gain of (4,611 -4,147) 0,464 millioner squarekilometers or a growth of 46400 squarekilometers per year. As the graph in the previous post shows, then the arctic sea ice is pretty constant and not showing signs of disappearing. It is also not showing signs of losing 96000 square kilometers per year as DMI is saying. This would be newsworthy one would think. Long trends are important and one can choose start and end points to justify claims that the arctic ice is disappearing rapidly or that it is gaining ice again.
 
Satellite images from Saturday show a new 100-square-mile iceberg breaking off from Antarctica’s Pine Island Glacier. The chunk shattered into smaller icebergs, raising concerns about future sea level rises.

Massive 100-Mile Iceberg Breaks Off Antarctica, Reveals Worrying Glacial Retreat
https://sputniknews.com/environment/201709261057723425-iceberg-breaks-off-antarctica-glacier-retreat/

This calving, as the process of shedding huge blocks of ice is called, comes after a 225-square-mile iceberg fell off the same glacier in 2015.

Pine Island Glacier — four times the size of Manhattan — is the fastest melting glacier in West Antarctica, with 45 billion tons of ice melting each year. These add up to 1 millimeter of global sea rise every eight years, Gizmodo reported.

A study by Seongsu Jeong and Ian Howat of Ohio State University uncovered that rifts in the glacier were being formed in its center rather than at its edges, which suggests that warming waters in contact with the base of the glacier may play a role in how the ice sheet is melting.

"Rifts usually form at the margins of an ice shelf, where the ice is thin and subject to shearing that rips it apart," said study lead Ian Howat, an associate professor of earth sciences at Ohio State University.

"However, this latest event in the Pine Island Glacier was due to a rift that originated from the center of the ice shelf and propagated out to the margins. This implies that something weakened the center of the ice shelf, with the most likely explanation being a crevasse melted out at the bedrock level by a warming ocean."

The latest cleavage, which has led to an open-water gap between the ice shelf and the iceberg, is the fifth-biggest calving event since 2000, according to Stef Lhermitte, a satellite observation specialist at Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands.

"But it isn't the size of the [ice]bergs that are the main issue," Christopher A. Shuman, a research scientist within the Cryospheric Sciences Laboratory at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, told Gizmodo. "It is the overall progressive retreat of the ice front with calving losses in 2013, 2015 and 2017, which is pretty rapid retreat for any very large glacier, especially one this far south in Antarctica. With the first big loss in 2001, this is not a good sign for sure."

Studies predict that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, the continental ice sheet that covers West Antarctica, where the Pine Island Glacier is located, will collapse within 100 years, resulting in a sea rise of nearly 10 feet that could lead to flooding in major US cities like New York and Miami, weather.com reported.
 
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