The Carnivore Diet

Turgon

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my experience right now is that i am working with a doc who switched me to strict carnivore suddenly. i have read that is much rougher than transitioning and phasing out carbs gradually. but since i didn't do that, i am experiencing more severe symptoms. my back is so painful i have not been able to walk well and getting out of bed or from a chair can be excrutiating if not slow and careful.

this whole thing is so new i don't know what to expect and every new awful thing is scary. don't even know how much poop to expect since i hear it is much less on carnivore in general. i am experiencing some very strange waves of what i can only describe as cortisol flushes some nights, like last night, that are horrible with doom and gloom thougths, kept me up all night. last but not least, i came into this severely underweight, and have been nervous about that from the beginning since 99% of all the testimonials and reasons for people doing this in the first place is to LOSE weight. and i have indeed lost some weight but am afraid to get on the scale. that is the most concerning thing to me and i tend to catastrophise at times..
The weight issue is easy enough to compensate with by basically eating more meat and fat. To the point of satiation and even a bit beyond while including some sort of weight lifting and resistance training. At least that's what helped for me. As for the symptoms you're describing, that could be some kind of major die-off of certain bacteria being starved of sugar and carbs, but I don't know for sure. And if it's really getting to be that bad, then maybe you should introduce some carbs that you're okay with, like certain fruits and vegetables and see how you feel afterwards. Sally Norton has said that it's dangerous to go cold turkey if oxalate is the issue and better to gradually reduce the amount you take to give your body a chance to chelate it out of your system.
 

thewoman

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The weight issue is easy enough to compensate with by basically eating more meat and fat. To the point of satiation and even a bit beyond while including some sort of weight lifting and resistance training. At least that's what helped for me. As for the symptoms you're describing, that could be some kind of major die-off of certain bacteria being starved of sugar and carbs, but I don't know for sure. And if it's really getting to be that bad, then maybe you should introduce some carbs that you're okay with, like certain fruits and vegetables and see how you feel afterwards. Sally Norton has said that it's dangerous to go cold turkey if oxalate is the issue and better to gradually reduce the amount you take to give your body a chance to chelate it out of your system.
thank you! i am indeed stuffing myself as much as possible without throwing up. lol thing is i have no appetite so i go into a meal not hungry. i do realize cold turkey can cause some very troublesome side effects and oxalate dumping is what i highly suspect, as does my doc. he also suggesting having a carb or two here and there which i plan to do. i just don't want to go back to square one after going through all this for 23 days now, so am being very careful to just do a little when really feeling the need. had a cooked carrot last night and plan to get some blueberries today. i do minor weight lifting generally but my back has made that impossible. will figure out how to incorporate this somehow, tho. i know it's important. again, thank you for your thoughtful reply.
 

TheTodd

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Paul Saladino, one of the main prominents of the carnivore diet "officialy" became an omnivore, but an animal based omnivore.
Long term ketosis didn't work with him very well because, in his words, created severe electrolyte deficiencies which manifasted as heart palpitations, muscle cramps and sleep disturbances. So, lots of benefits in the begining but end up running into problems long term.

 
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