Third_Density_Resident
Jedi Council Member
I have just completed reading the new book by long-time Near-Death Experience (NDE) researcher, PMH Atwater. I found the book highly interesting, informative, and also disturbing.
Although packed with interesting findings, some of the ones that most stood out for me are listed below:
• 39% of child near-death experiencers (NDEers) identified themselves as coming from other dimensions; 9% believed they were from other planets. A quarter or so of the ‘interdimensional’ child experiencers were aware of a previous existence to their present life not as an individual identity, but rather as being part of existence itself. Could this possibly hint at what it's like to exist prior to existing as an organic portal, or what exists after the second death of organic portals? These children identified with formlessness – like a gas, or waves, or energy pulses, or particles of sparks. ”They talk as though the substance of their being and their place of origin were one and the same; that their beingness is part of the very mechanism and structure that holds together and maintains Creation itself.” I find this last part intriguing – it sounds like this quarter of the 39% group (about 10% of the total) identify with primal matter. Sounds familiar. However three-quarters of the ‘interdimensional’ children believed birth and death to be entrance and exit points “to a single life stream or life continuum inhabited by the type of spirits they once were and would be again. These realms, they said, were their true home.”
• It’s interesting that Atwater found that none of the 3000 adults she interviewed identified as coming from interdimensional realms; only ‘other planets’ were ever mentioned, if at all, by adults.
• Most child NDEers ate more meat after their experience; most adult NDEers had more vegetarian diets. I am not sure what this might mean; perhaps the changes in brain structure, which most certainly occur, demand a diet higher in protein and iron in the growing child brain than in the adult.
• Three types of light consistently reported by experiencers are: positive, negative, and primary. ‘Positive light’ or ‘bright light’ was seen as ‘white’; ‘negative light’ or ‘dark light’ was perceived as ‘womb-like’ and purely black. Primary light was ‘colourless’. All three types had very positive and beneficial effects for most experiencers, although the ‘primary’ type, perceived as ‘the origin of all origins’, had the most beneficial effects.
• Most NDEers have a craving for the gaining of knowledge and for service to others – which indicates that their experience is a largely positive thing. All of this begs the question of whether the experiencer was already innately STO or whether it was the experience itself that turned them from being (potentially) STS into STO. Most experiencers felt that what they went through was like a ‘shove’ in the ‘right direction’ – as if they were getting ‘off track’ in their ‘true purpose’.
• Atwater mentions Kenneth Ring’s research, and how he found that a significant number of NDEers have had UFO experiences also. However, Atwater notes that unlike those only having NDEs, the UFO experiencers’ lives are more troubled and negative in the long-run (and we at SOTT all know why this is). My take on all this is that NDErs become more prone to UFO experiences because the rewiring of their brain structure enables UFO experiences to occur more readily – in other words it is more receptive to higher realities. Unlike Ring, Atwater did not conclude that NDEers identify UFOs in a positive light.
• Possible description of the Second Death – ‘The Darkness that Knows’. This was described by one person as a state totally devoid of light, a formless mode of pure consciousness in which no thoughts or feelings exist, and yet there is still an awareness of existence, a ‘bliss of knowingness’. One of the experiencers of this ‘darkness that knows’ is convinced that it has something to do with a type of consciousness that interacts with Creation and created matter.
• IQs of most NDEers increased markedly. Many report being unable to operate electrical equipment because it keeps on malfunctioning, including watches, lights and computers.
• Most child experiencers believe great Earth changes are just around the corner. Atwater calculated, based on the children’s descriptions of themselves in the future with their own children and grandchildren, that such changes would transpire from 2013 onwards. This is consistent with what SOTT has found.
There’s a lot more to talk about (the book is 473 pages, and each page is much larger than the average book). However I will conclude by saying that I found the book to be an excellent source of information relating to the NDE. Even the alternative, 3D materialistic theories are presented and then systematically demolished. In many ways the book is like an encyclopaedic compendium of all the NDE research ever done. Anecdotes are included throughout to help illustrate certain findings. Probably the best part of the book was the descriptions of the after effects of the NDE. Most scientists who scoff at the NDE or write it off as the 'dying brain' completely ignore the profound after effects. Any scientist MUST account for the after effects in order to be a true scientist.
Although packed with interesting findings, some of the ones that most stood out for me are listed below:
• 39% of child near-death experiencers (NDEers) identified themselves as coming from other dimensions; 9% believed they were from other planets. A quarter or so of the ‘interdimensional’ child experiencers were aware of a previous existence to their present life not as an individual identity, but rather as being part of existence itself. Could this possibly hint at what it's like to exist prior to existing as an organic portal, or what exists after the second death of organic portals? These children identified with formlessness – like a gas, or waves, or energy pulses, or particles of sparks. ”They talk as though the substance of their being and their place of origin were one and the same; that their beingness is part of the very mechanism and structure that holds together and maintains Creation itself.” I find this last part intriguing – it sounds like this quarter of the 39% group (about 10% of the total) identify with primal matter. Sounds familiar. However three-quarters of the ‘interdimensional’ children believed birth and death to be entrance and exit points “to a single life stream or life continuum inhabited by the type of spirits they once were and would be again. These realms, they said, were their true home.”
• It’s interesting that Atwater found that none of the 3000 adults she interviewed identified as coming from interdimensional realms; only ‘other planets’ were ever mentioned, if at all, by adults.
• Most child NDEers ate more meat after their experience; most adult NDEers had more vegetarian diets. I am not sure what this might mean; perhaps the changes in brain structure, which most certainly occur, demand a diet higher in protein and iron in the growing child brain than in the adult.
• Three types of light consistently reported by experiencers are: positive, negative, and primary. ‘Positive light’ or ‘bright light’ was seen as ‘white’; ‘negative light’ or ‘dark light’ was perceived as ‘womb-like’ and purely black. Primary light was ‘colourless’. All three types had very positive and beneficial effects for most experiencers, although the ‘primary’ type, perceived as ‘the origin of all origins’, had the most beneficial effects.
• Most NDEers have a craving for the gaining of knowledge and for service to others – which indicates that their experience is a largely positive thing. All of this begs the question of whether the experiencer was already innately STO or whether it was the experience itself that turned them from being (potentially) STS into STO. Most experiencers felt that what they went through was like a ‘shove’ in the ‘right direction’ – as if they were getting ‘off track’ in their ‘true purpose’.
• Atwater mentions Kenneth Ring’s research, and how he found that a significant number of NDEers have had UFO experiences also. However, Atwater notes that unlike those only having NDEs, the UFO experiencers’ lives are more troubled and negative in the long-run (and we at SOTT all know why this is). My take on all this is that NDErs become more prone to UFO experiences because the rewiring of their brain structure enables UFO experiences to occur more readily – in other words it is more receptive to higher realities. Unlike Ring, Atwater did not conclude that NDEers identify UFOs in a positive light.
• Possible description of the Second Death – ‘The Darkness that Knows’. This was described by one person as a state totally devoid of light, a formless mode of pure consciousness in which no thoughts or feelings exist, and yet there is still an awareness of existence, a ‘bliss of knowingness’. One of the experiencers of this ‘darkness that knows’ is convinced that it has something to do with a type of consciousness that interacts with Creation and created matter.
• IQs of most NDEers increased markedly. Many report being unable to operate electrical equipment because it keeps on malfunctioning, including watches, lights and computers.
• Most child experiencers believe great Earth changes are just around the corner. Atwater calculated, based on the children’s descriptions of themselves in the future with their own children and grandchildren, that such changes would transpire from 2013 onwards. This is consistent with what SOTT has found.
There’s a lot more to talk about (the book is 473 pages, and each page is much larger than the average book). However I will conclude by saying that I found the book to be an excellent source of information relating to the NDE. Even the alternative, 3D materialistic theories are presented and then systematically demolished. In many ways the book is like an encyclopaedic compendium of all the NDE research ever done. Anecdotes are included throughout to help illustrate certain findings. Probably the best part of the book was the descriptions of the after effects of the NDE. Most scientists who scoff at the NDE or write it off as the 'dying brain' completely ignore the profound after effects. Any scientist MUST account for the after effects in order to be a true scientist.
