Super Megaliths in Southern Siberia

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Laura said:
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They don't look like ordinary granite formations to me.

I'd like to see them with my own eyes and make good photos and share them here. But it's winter now, so maybe in spring or in summer. They don't seem to me ordinary anymore too. What strikes me the most is that they have been right before my nose for so many years (I was born and grew up close enough to that place).. Amazing. :)

As soon as you go, start sending us photos! Talk to whoever is in charge and get the inside scoop! I would just LOVE to see them myself.

Yes, that would be nice!
 

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Laura said:
Siberia said:
Laura said:
They don't look like ordinary granite formations to me.

I'd like to see them with my own eyes and make good photos and share them here. But it's winter now, so maybe in spring or in summer. They don't seem to me ordinary anymore too. What strikes me the most is that they have been right before my nose for so many years (I was born and grew up close enough to that place).. Amazing. :)

As soon as you go, start sending us photos! Talk to whoever is in charge and get the inside scoop! I would just LOVE to see them myself.

I will try to contact the team, they are from Tomsk, from my University. I found some very good pictures of these megaliths today:


https://youtu.be/adjtc5BQh9U

And here is a short video (not just photos, but video):


https://youtu.be/TiuMeV4GVUg
 

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Thanks for the links Siberia. After seeing them I am less convinced that those are natural formations.
 

axj

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I think that the different types of granite stacked on top of each other (as shown in the first video that Siberia posted) clearly points to non-natural origins.
 

axj

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The leader of this expedition says that the stone blocks were indeed made from different types of granite. He also says that they presented their data to geologists in Tomsk and Bernaul after their expedition and all geologists agreed that these walls were man-made:

http://тест.концептуал.рф/georgiy-sidorov-kto-vy-gospodin-sklyarov

Некоторые гранитные блоки внизу были сложены из красного гранита, венчали их блоки из гранита серого, а выше лежала полигональная кладка из различных блоков, как красного гранита, так и серого. Местами полигональная кладка нам показалась оплавленной.

[...]

В Барнауле и в Томске состоялись лекции о нашей удивительной находке. После наших выступлений мы получили приглашение на кафедру радиофизики в Томский государственный университет, где пришлось подробно познакомить с найденными артефактами томских физиков.

Мы демонстрировали фотографии на экране, рассказывали о различных видах кладки, о каменных замках, которыми скреплены гигантские гранитные блоки и ни один учёный физик не сказал, что всё это имеет природное происхождение. Честные томские учёные внимательно изучали фото, качали головами, переговаривались между собой. Больше всего их удивило, как могли древние поднимать гигантские каменные блоки на высоту более 1000 метров и там устанавливать их на специальной платформе. Спрашивали нас ученые, каким образом мы вышли на этот артефакт и что мы думаем о своей находке. Мы рассказали им о наших проводниках геологах, как ими было сделано это открытие и почему они нас пригласили его показать. После встречи завкафедры поздравил нас с открытием и предложил нам сконструированный его людьми георадар. Это явилось для нас приятной неожиданностью.

Через несколько дней состоялось заседание по поводу нашей находки в Томском филиале РГО. На этот раз фотографии, отснятые нами, изучали учёные геологи и географы. И те, и другие пришли к выводу, что представленные нами артефакты являются рукотворными. Ни один учёный не засомневался.

In the end he also mentions that many people write to him about similar "unknown" megalithic structures in Siberia and the Caucasus mountains:

Не прошло и десяти дней после нашего открытия, как со всех сторон Сибири, Урала и даже Кавказа мы получили массу писем, где местные жители стали нам сообщать о похожих мегалитических сооружениях. На Кавказе нашими людьми был найден целый город с колонами, статуями и руинами домов, но об этом городе официальная наука знать не желает. С Алтая пришло известие о двух гигантских разрушенных мегалитических городах. Подобные известия пришли из Хакассии и Эвенкии.
 

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In the Russian Far East there are some stone formations that are called "The Amur Pillars" (Амурские столбы). They are between 12 and 70 meters high and are also located close to 50 degrees north - just like the Altai megaliths and Stonehenge.

This one here is enormous - just compare the height of the fully grown trees below it:
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From another perspective it looks like a statue:
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People even suggested that this may be some sort of reptilian - on the first picture you can see its 'tail'.

From still another perspective it looks similar to the Easter island (Nephilim) heads:
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Though I'm not sure if it's the same or another one of the other "Amur Pillars". This last one looks like its top is much closer to the tree tops.
 

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axj said:
In the Russian Far East there are some stone formations that are called "The Amur Pillars" (Амурские столбы). They are between 12 and 70 meters high and are also located close to 50 degrees north - just like the Altai megaliths and Stonehenge.

This one here is enormous - just compare the height of the fully grown trees below it:
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From another perspective it looks like a statue:
amurskie_stolbyi.jpg


People even suggested that this may be some sort of reptilian - on the first picture you can see its 'tail'.

From still another perspective it looks similar to the Easter island (Nephilim) heads:
image.jpg


Though I'm not sure if it's the same or another one of the other "Amur Pillars". This last one looks like its top is much closer to the tree tops.

Wow! Just Wow! :shock: :shock:
These megaliths are awe-inspiring. I am at a loss for words. They are indescribably majestic.
Is it possible that the 6D crop circle makers could have constructed these? Or maybe they were made using sound wave focusing, like the pyramids at Giza. Any other possibilities?
Just speculating.
 

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Really amazing, these megaliths! I also was reminded of the Easter island heads; wonder how they looked hundreds of years ago, that must have been even more of a sight to behold! Thanks for sharing, Siberia, and I'm also looking forward to more pictures.
 

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axj said:
The leader of this expedition says that the stone blocks were indeed made from different types of granite. He also says that they presented their data to geologists in Tomsk and Bernaul after their expedition and all geologists agreed that these walls were man-made:

http://тест.концептуал.рф/georgiy-sidorov-kto-vy-gospodin-sklyarov

Некоторые гранитные блоки внизу были сложены из красного гранита, венчали их блоки из гранита серого, а выше лежала полигональная кладка из различных блоков, как красного гранита, так и серого. Местами полигональная кладка нам показалась оплавленной.

[...]

В Барнауле и в Томске состоялись лекции о нашей удивительной находке. После наших выступлений мы получили приглашение на кафедру радиофизики в Томский государственный университет, где пришлось подробно познакомить с найденными артефактами томских физиков.

Мы демонстрировали фотографии на экране, рассказывали о различных видах кладки, о каменных замках, которыми скреплены гигантские гранитные блоки и ни один учёный физик не сказал, что всё это имеет природное происхождение. Честные томские учёные внимательно изучали фото, качали головами, переговаривались между собой. Больше всего их удивило, как могли древние поднимать гигантские каменные блоки на высоту более 1000 метров и там устанавливать их на специальной платформе. Спрашивали нас ученые, каким образом мы вышли на этот артефакт и что мы думаем о своей находке. Мы рассказали им о наших проводниках геологах, как ими было сделано это открытие и почему они нас пригласили его показать. После встречи завкафедры поздравил нас с открытием и предложил нам сконструированный его людьми георадар. Это явилось для нас приятной неожиданностью.

Через несколько дней состоялось заседание по поводу нашей находки в Томском филиале РГО. На этот раз фотографии, отснятые нами, изучали учёные геологи и географы. И те, и другие пришли к выводу, что представленные нами артефакты являются рукотворными. Ни один учёный не засомневался.

In the end he also mentions that many people write to him about similar "unknown" megalithic structures in Siberia and the Caucasus mountains:

Не прошло и десяти дней после нашего открытия, как со всех сторон Сибири, Урала и даже Кавказа мы получили массу писем, где местные жители стали нам сообщать о похожих мегалитических сооружениях. На Кавказе нашими людьми был найден целый город с колонами, статуями и руинами домов, но об этом городе официальная наука знать не желает. С Алтая пришло известие о двух гигантских разрушенных мегалитических городах. Подобные известия пришли из Хакассии и Эвенкии.

For the benefit of those who cannot read Russian,I will do my best to translate this,bear with me as my Russian is a little rusty. ''Certain granite blocks at the base (of the structure) were made from red granite,which were connected to grey granite blocks.Above that was a polygonal layer made up of varied blocks (both red and grey granite).The polygonal layer seemed to us as if it had melted in places.
In Barnaul and Tomsk we conducted lectures about our surprising finding,after which we received an invitation to the department of radiophysics at the Tomsk University,where we thoroughly familiarized ourselves with various artifacts that the physicists of Tomsk uncovered.

During our talks,we presented a slideshow,displaying photos of our findings,talked about varying layers (of the structure) and about stone castles which were reinforced by giant granite blocks,yet not a single physicist mentioned that this might have been a natural formation. The honest Tomsk scientists,carefully examined the photos shook their heads and chattered among themselves.The thing which puzzled them the most was the thought that somehow,our ancestors managed to drag those gigantic blocks up to the elevation of over a 1000 meters and then arrange them on a specially made platform.The scientists asked us how we discovered the megaliths and what we thought of our finding.We told them of our Geologist guides and how they made the discovery and also why they invited us to come and see it. After the meeting, head of the department congratulated us and offered us a chance to collaborate on a ground penetrating radar (GPR).We were pleasantly surprised at this offer.A few days later, a meeting was held regarding our finding in the Tomsk branch of the Russian Geographic Society (RGS).This time our photos were studied by Geologists and Geographers,these men too,came to the conclusion that these artifacts were man made and not a single scientist doubted that conclusion.''

And this is about him receiving letters regarding artifacts other people have found:
''Not even ten days had passed since our discovery was made,that people wrote from all over Siberia,Urals and even Kavkaz in great numbers,and relayed information about a great many stone structures like the ones we found.In Kavfkaz our people found an entire city,complete with great columns,statues and even ruined houses.However, ''official'' science wants nothing to do with it.From Altai came news of two giant, ruined megalith cities.Similar news came from Khakassia and Evenkia.''

If you spot any mistakes that I made,feel free to correct me. :)
 

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I've been reading the earlier sessions (never read them before) and there is this interesting part:

Laura said:
(L) That's probably where I was going. I was going off to Novosibirtsk. You once made the remark that the secret lies in a mountain pass in Russia and something about a line drawn between Novosibirtsk and Urkutsk. Is there a mountain pass in this area where something important is waiting for us to find it?
A: Yes.

Well, these megaliths could probably be considered as lying in a mountain pass along the line drawn between Novosibirtsk and Urkutsk. Here is the map of the area:

Novosibirsk: red dot
Irkutsk: blue dot
Mezhdurechensk (the settlement closest to megaliths): green dot

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Maybe it's just my imagination though, so it's just for the record, fwiw.
 

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Thx Siberia for map and quote - maybe we could ask Bachushka Vladimir Vladimirovich for hectare or two over there :halo:

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Siberia said:
I've been reading the earlier sessions (never read them before) and there is this interesting part:

Laura said:
(L) That's probably where I was going. I was going off to Novosibirtsk. You once made the remark that the secret lies in a mountain pass in Russia and something about a line drawn between Novosibirtsk and Urkutsk. Is there a mountain pass in this area where something important is waiting for us to find it?
A: Yes.

Well, these megaliths could probably be considered as lying in a mountain pass along the line drawn between Novosibirtsk and Urkutsk. Here is the map of the area:

Novosibirsk: red dot
Irkutsk: blue dot
Mezhdurechensk (the settlement closest to megaliths): green dot

Maybe it's just my imagination though, so it's just for the record, fwiw.

Yes, thanks Siberia for the map and the quote! I forgot about it.

There is another amazing and mysterious place east of Novosibirtsk. On Siberia's map above, it is placed very close, north-east of the green dot; you can see a boot-like area marked there and the 'toe' points to a village of Shira (Шира). That's where it is, more or less.

http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/is-this-the-oldest-astronomical-observatory-in-the-world-dating-back-16000-years/?comm_order=best

By Natalya Kukonen and Kate Baklitskaya
19 April 2013

Sunduki is called the Siberian Stonehenge, yet its site is older than the British standing stones, and arguably 'more mysterious'.

Our pictures show the stunning primevil beauty of this place, far from modern city life, but many millennia ago it was perhaps at the apex of civilisation.

Some have even speculated that Hyperborea, known from Greek mythology, may have been here in the modern Republic of Khakassia. Whether or not this is so, respectable scientific opinion now holds that Sunduki is a singular site in understanding our ancestors, and that it has many secrets yet to divulge.

In bygone times, they believe, this was a stargazing capital of the ancient world and a place of devout worship.

In all, Sunduki comprises eight fantastical sandstone mounts rising incongruously from a flood plain on the bank of the Bely Iyus. Parallel to each other, almost equal in size, they are crowned with strange rock hats looking like giant boxes or chests.

The word 'Sunduk' in Russian means 'chest' or 'trunk' which explains how the place got its modern name.

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'For many years I tried to unravel these mystery 'chests', said Professor Vitaly Larichev, of the Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography at the Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

Determined to decode some of the mysteries of Sunduki, he admits he became an 'astro-archeologist'.

'We don't dig in the ground - we study what ancient people knew about astronomy', he said.

'What I discovered was a surprise even to myself. Comparing maps accumulated over many years of astronomical observations, I came to understand that here in Sunduki, we can see the oldest astronomical observatory certainly in Asia. Its age is about 16,000 years old. The ancient inhabitants of this valley daily observed the sunset, the sunrise and the moon'.

And they did so for many thousands of years since then, Larichev contends.

It was 3,500 years ago that the first known sundials existed, found by archeologists in ancient Egypt. Yet without any instruments and gadgets, these ancient Siberian astronomers used giant rocks and chinks in the stone architecture in this Siberian landscape for their calculations and observations.

He claims to have found 'numerous ancient solar and lunar observatories around Sunduki'.

'This square pattern of stones on the ground shows you the place', he told visiting author Kira Van Deusen. 'I knew there would be an orientation point, but we had to search through the grass for a long time to find it.

'Now look up to the top of that ridge. You see a place where there is a crack between the rocks? If you were here on the summer solstice, you would see the sun rise right there. Or you would if you were here 2,000 years so. Now the timing is slightly differen'.

High on one cliff wall is a rock engraving showing dragon heads in one direction, and snake heads in the other.

'If the sun were shining, we could tell the time,' he said. 'In the morning the shadow moves along the snake's body from his head to his tail, and in the afternoon it comes from the other direction along the dragon.

'From the same observation point you can determine true north and south by sighting along the mountains'.

There is a gallery of rock art. Some dates back several centuries BC and so is relatively modern.

But a mysterious white horse found not far from the first 'chest' on Black Mountain was carved in the rock and is well preserved - yet scientists suggest that this petroglyph appeared 16,000 years ago, during the Ice Age, establishing this as a site of human activity over many millennia.

It was 'the home of gods, great artists and sky watchers', said the professor.

It was more than this, too.

There are also burial mounds and other manmade constructions - including irrigation channels - which have yet to be fully investigated.

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For more pictures, go to the original article.
A story about a trip to Sunduki: here.
Some more pictures: here.

And finally, a picture from DailyMail:

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