Someone from Mexico?

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Tykes said:
Hello, i would like to ask you mexican fellows how are you doing with the diet and detox, since for me has been difficult to find buckwheat, the recommended suplements or flouride free toothpaste for example.

This is a constant source of frustration for me, i live in a small town where there are few (if any) options to find healthy food, on the contrary big malls are starting to establish increasingly here in recent years, sometimes i have to go there to get my supplies and it´s disheartening to say the least to search something other than poison, read the labels and see that almost every damn thing contains gluten, diary or in most cases both.

The worst thing is that i am afraid this is becoming the excuse that my predator needs to not try it.

I was wondering if you have experiencing similar difficulties in implementing the diet.

Thanks in advance.

You are not alone Tykes, its been impossible for me to find buckwheat also, so I am trying to get some from the US border with a help of other forum members. Just a few days ago I found out that the bacon I was eating had glutamate in it, I mean, its bacon for crying out loud. Be a warrior, as someone else posted in another thread. Psyche remembered horchata, which is a very good find! and you can also do some rice milk and/or almond milk by your own.

mabar said:
Hi, I had read and re-read the detox diet as to which products can be changed from what I usually eat, and it is really frustrating indeed.

Buckwheat could not find it either, I had been in a store (here in Mexico city) that sell products from the macrobiotic diet?, and the lady told me about buckwheat (in Spanish “trigo sarraceno”) they had not find it at all because they discovered that their supplier were selling them sliced wheat instead of buckwheat, but I had not gone to “La Merced” maybe there I can find it.

I find quinoa and brown rice at the same store, although to my particular point of view is quite expensive, (quinoa for 40 pesos 250 gr), I am going to look for it at La Merced too. If I can find them I will let you know and find a way for you to received them.

Tykes said:
This is a constant source of frustration for me, i live in a small town where there are few (if any) options to find healthy food, on the contrary big malls are starting to establish increasingly here in recent years, sometimes i have to go there to get my supplies and it's disheartening to say the least to search something other than poison, read the labels and see that almost every damn thing contains gluten, diary or in most cases both.

I live in the biggest city and I am still frustrated :P, maybe I can find the ingredients, but I do not have much free time, for simple diet list just on Sundays and my budget is …mmm precarious?, and to that I live in a popular area that is to say fancy stores, at least of foods, you wont find near; so in order to not be too frustrated I think that ones for others, right now I am avoiding foods or seudo foods that contains MSG, artificial flavors, sugar, and I do not buy anything contain aspartame at all, I am eating more vegetables, and brown rice, meat?, mosty chicken, I am avoiding tuna as well, although last Sunday I bought more pork and beef meat, I think I need more protein and fat, considering the bad weather we are having. I had not move apart dairy at all, I do not drink milk, although I do eat cheese but I try to be made from farms”? or buy the ones that do not contain MSG, artificial flavors and colors, the brand “Cremería Aguascalientes” is my better choice and I can find it at Bodega Comercial. I still eat yogurt and its from “Alpura” brand because that one does not contains aspartame and artificial flavors neither sugar, but it last 1 kg a month… I try to not eat it very often.

I try to make my own bread and it is of integral wheat, but the time factor do not let me do it more often, so I choose the typical commercial integral one and sometimes form natural shops in the Subway.

I like sweets very much so I try to buy the more natural ones?, that could be interpreted by mexicans as typical candies?... amaranth bars?, oaxacan style chocolate?...the ones in which they don't have again soy lecitins, MSG, sugars, artificial flavors etc… But sometimes I failed and buy the commercial ones.

I am using “piloncillo” and honey to sweeten. I do avoid sugar but sometimes I eat it.

I prepare my food to take for job, and need to be more creative and give it more time because if I do not bring it, I ended eating at restaurants such as “comida corrida” ones and in there, there is a high possibility that they use the Knorr tomato, Knorr chicken, Knorr whatever to flavored their meals… and I ended eating more MSG candies too.

So ones for others I guess, and also I do think that even though the Ultra Mind Solution book and /or diet could function well to many of this forum if not almost everyone, in my very particular point of view we need to do more research about our indigenous backgrounds, had not read the book, but corn/maize in this part of the world… I do not think is that evil, of course Monsanto is here allready and we know about the genetically modified maize imported from USA…but still there are fruits, vegetables that are well known to be good, that in other countries they wont be found so easily, for example, the nopal… in the Ultra simple diet mentions to avoid citric fruits, that is gonna be difficult to me, in this season it is citric fruits that help me to prevent colds, and the mandarines/tangerines are right now delicious, I am able to buy the ones from local farmers, they still had their leaves :). It recommended berries, but here… I cant find berries on daily basis and there are too expensive too, just strawberries and frozen ones.

I am still looking and learning more about my body too…some sort of trial and error :P.

mabar

If you ever find the flouride free toothpaste let me know too :D

I have found fluoride free toothpaste that some conscious dentist sells, but its quite expensive, around $100 pesos (around 8 or 9 USD) per tube, also Psyche has suggested the used of a carbonated mix but for the love of god I can't remember what it was (sorry Psyche!).

I just had piloncillo with camote (sweet potatoes) and guavas (guayabas) and it tasted marvelous, although I have been informed that piloncillo is still extracted from the sugar cane, it seems that it doesn't have any industrial processing involved, but will check and report back.

HIH
 

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Navigator said:
Psyche remembered horchata, which is a very good find! and you can also do some rice milk and/or almond milk by your own.

Just remember that we are trying to stay away from rice as it contains around 5% of non-wheat gluten. Some tolerate almond milk just fine, others need to find another alternative like hemp milk.

The good thing about Horchata is that it is made from chufas (tiger nuts) which is a tuber. Well, at least the one from Spain. It tastes absolutely delicious.
I understand the Horchata from Mexico is made from rice or barley, which are sources of gluten. But there should be chufas or other similar tubers which actually make the Horchata taste even better. :) Chufas have a sweet and nutty flavor.

Navigator said:
I have found fluoride free toothpaste that some conscious dentist sells, but its quite expensive, around $100 pesos (around 8 or 9 USD) per tube, also Psyche has suggested the used of a carbonated mix but for the love of god I can't remember what it was (sorry Psyche!).

I just had piloncillo with camote (sweet potatoes) and guavas (guayabas) and it tasted marvelous, although I have been informed that piloncillo is still extracted from the sugar cane, it seems that it doesn't have any industrial processing involved, but will check and report back.

Yeah, you might be able to save some money if you wash your teeth with charcoal. It should be available everywhere, it is the same one that is used in emergency rooms for intoxication cases. Watch the last two videos posted here, it is about washing your teeth with charcoal:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/202133-Health-Videos-Mercury-Amalgams-Toxic-Chemicals-and-Foods-Activated-Charcoal

It is also called activated charcoal or activated carbon (carbón activado).

You are lucky you can have guavas! I don't know in Mexico, but there is also pejivalles or pejibayes in Central America:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactris_gasipaes

I was able to keep my diet in Costa Rica with those. I made some mayonnaise and I was all set-up! Heart of palms are also very cheap in Central America and delicious in salads and even lasagnas (buckwheat):

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_palm
 

tykes

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Thanks mabar, Navigator and Psyche for your insights.

mabar said:
Hi, I had read and re-read the detox diet as to which products can be changed from what I usually eat, and it is really frustrating indeed.

Buckwheat could not find it either, I had been in a store (here in Mexico city) that sell products from the macrobiotic diet?, and the lady told me about buckwheat (in Spanish “trigo sarraceno”) they had not find it at all because they discovered that their supplier were selling them sliced wheat instead of buckwheat, but I had not gone to “La Merced” maybe there I can find it.

I find quinoa and brown rice at the same store, although to my particular point of view is quite expensive, (quinoa for 40 pesos 250 gr), I am going to look for it at La Merced too. If I can find them I will let you know and find a way for you to received them.

That would be great mabar, thanks a lot :). I was planning to visit the big city in january and search all that is needed for the diet, i thought it would be more easy to find them there, so thanks for the tips, it will save time.

Yesterday i found a fluoride free toothpaste in a naturist stand within a shopping center (Comercial Mexicana), it´s expensive indeed ( $ 85 pesos), but i will give it a try.


Navigator said:
You are not alone Tykes, its been impossible for me to find buckwheat also, so I am trying to get some from the US border with a help of other forum members. Just a few days ago I found out that the bacon I was eating had glutamate in it, I mean, its bacon for crying out loud. Be a warrior, as someone else posted in another thread. Psyche remembered horchata, which is a very good find! and you can also do some rice milk and/or almond milk by your own.

That evil thing is all over the place :O.
I just recently discovered that is practically in every thing i have eaten since i was born, now that i know that corn and rice also contains it i can´t help but feel very bad. I mean, 26 years eating tortillas, bread and all kinds of stuff made from milk and rice. It´s a drag :(

On the othe hand, how good to have the help of other forum members, it is simply wonderful to have this network.

Psyche said:
mabar said:
Buckwheat could not find it either, I had been in a store (here in Mexico city) that sell products from the macrobiotic diet?, and the lady told me about buckwheat (in Spanish “trigo sarraceno”) they had not find it at all because they discovered that their supplier were selling them sliced wheat instead of buckwheat, but I had not gone to “La Merced” maybe there I can find it.

I was able to find buckwheat in Costa Rica through Russian immigrants, the direct source no less! If you ever stumble upon a Russian community in your country, you might be able to find buckwheat. They always import it because it is part of their staple diet.

You'll never benefit from the detox diet if you keep eating gluten and dairy. Corn has gluten, and they have found that its gluten can be toxic to the body in other ways from wheat's gluten. In Central America there is a great variety in ways of tubers and vegetables. Perhaps you can get a little bit creative and exploit your location in this regard.

Thaks a lot psyche, i had the wrong idea that just avoiding wheat i was avoiding gluten, while happily eating my corn and rice, thinking i was safe and sound.

This complicates it more i guess, but as you say it seems that the point is to get creative and find the way to overcome the obstacles for this not become and excuse.

My 2 pesos
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mabar

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Hi, I did not find neither quinoa nor buckwheat at La Merced... at every place they ended with a "what" face ... :huh:
but I found dry cranberries :D ..., I was told that it may be a possibility to find them at Central de Abastos, but going there...I could go next year... another place they mentioned was Mercado de San Juan (there you can find imported, exotic and/or weird foods), near the subway station San Juan de Letran, it is a possibility that I may be able to go next week.

mabar
 

cholas

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mabar said:
If you ever find the flouride free toothpaste let me know too .

Hi mabar. You might keep your eyes open for a brand called "Briden". It sure isn't perfect(has laril solfato de sodio) but no fluoride.

Speaking of flouride, I take it y'all are steering clear of the table salt? Has potassium fluoride added. Aires de Campo makes many things organic and sells "pure organic Sea Salt" in small-rock form. Commercial should have it.

We've been quite surprised on our recent excursions to Cosco as they carry spinach, celery, sometimes carrots as well as lettuce, all organic. All from north-of-the-border (unfortunately). Also they have non-fluoridated garlic-salt. The label says the salt part is sea salt from the Med.(?)

Quinoa and buckwheat are not available in our area(Vallarta-ish) but usually brought down by family/friends. There might be an opportunity for us all to aquire a decent amount next time I drive north, if nothing is available locally by then.
 

mabar

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Hi, …I hadn't found the toothpaste mentioned by Tykes, I do not have Comercial around here, there is just the Bodega Comercial (the cheaper one) and they don't have it, but with brand it is easier to find it…

I do consume sea salt, it comes in a rock, so I pulverized it in the blender in order to make it more practical and be put it in salt shaker? … don't remember the brand though, I bought it like 3 years ago, and I do not use it that much.

About the Cosco, I usually go to buy articles for the business and that is like every 3 months and when I do that I don't focus at other articles, less food; I go straightforward to the place of work by taxi, I do not have a car and I can only go on Sundays (my free day) and is like you said, an excursion …it takes like 2 ½ hrs from where I live and can't carry much with me.

Mi situation is that the “able-when”, the “able-afford”, and the “able-where” need to match at the same time, otherwise there is no way… so I keep looking.

Thanks anyway for the tips.

mabar
 

mabar

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Hi … I went to “Mercado de San Juan” … the one in which sells exotic, imported foods (there are 3 market places with the same name in 5 blocks) … I found Coconut oil, by Aires de Campo’s brand, and pulverized skinless almond, thise one in another store outside the market.

Inside the market, there was a place which supossedly have buckwheat, but did not had it the moment I went, go figure with murphy’s law :P they do have quinoa, although more expensive than the place where I usually buy it.

Where I bought the pulverized skinless almond, at first I asked for buckwheat, apparently they have it although when I saw it I did not pay for it, it wasn’t buckwheat, it was sliced wheat or arabic wheat as they latter told me.

I think it is important to know how it looks the buckwheat, I had seen it from a book, it is like this pic: http://foodlovers.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2290306%3ABlogPost%3A1890

mabar
 

cubbex

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Hola!!!

Soy de México. Actualmente se me haria de bastante uso tener charlas sobre cualquier tema con cualquiera que desee mantener una relacion mas estrecha asi podremos trabajar en grupo y discutir sobre aspectos en donde tengamos alguna duda. Se que no se nada y que queda por aprender, pero por ahora mantengo un contacto de Venezuela y el trabajo en equipo puede ayudar mucho. Podria hacer lo mismo con otros del foro pero debido al idioma me es muy dificil.
 

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Hi jaxbustos,

Welcome to the forum. :) Please read this welcome message. It's in Español.

We also recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, and how they found their way here. You can read through the many newbie introductions to get a feel for how others have done it. Thanks.

Could any of our Spanish speaking member translate the above so that jaxbustos can understand? Thanks.
 

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Vulcan59 said:
Hi jaxbustos,

Welcome to the forum. :) Please read this welcome message. It's in Español.

We also recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, and how they found their way here. You can read through the many newbie introductions to get a feel for how others have done it. Thanks.

Could any of our Spanish speaking member translate the above so that jaxbustos can understand? Thanks.

Traducción / Translation:

Vulcan59 said:
Hola jaxbustos,

Bienvenido al foro. :) Por favor lee este mensaje de bienvenida. Está en español.

También le recomendamos a todos los miembros nuevos que escriban una introducción en la sección Newbies ("nuevos") contándonos un poco acerca de sí mismos, y cómo llegaron hasta aquí. Puedes leer las muchas introducciones de los nuevos miembros para hacerte una idea de cómo lo han hecho otros. Gracias.

¿Puede alguno de nuestros miembros hispanoparlantes traducir este mensaje para que jaxbustos lo entienda? Gracias.

Jaxbustos, todas las discusiones del foro son en inglés, pero si necesitas apoyo para expresarte en ese idioma puedes pedir ayuda en esta sección en español. ¡Bienvenido!

Jaxbustos, all the forum discussions are in English, but is you need support to express yourself in that language you can ask for help in this section in Spanish. Welcome!
 

Navigator

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Este post debí de haberlo hecho hace tiempo, para todos los que andabamos buscando Buckwheat, Alforfón, Trigo Sarraceno en México, aquí es donde lo encontramos

http://www.organicosenlinea.com/index.asp?Modulo=1&Producto=133

No está caro y mandan barato a todo el país.

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I should have done this a while a go, but for those looking for buckwheat in México here is where we found it:

http://www.organicosenlinea.com/index.asp?Modulo=1&Producto=133

It ain't that expensive and they ship everywhere in Mexico!


edit: translation to english
 

cholas

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Thanks Navigator. And Bob's Red Mill no less.

The price does indeed sound reasonable.

Have you ordered/received any from this company yet?
 

Navigator

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cholas said:
Thanks Navigator. And Bob's Red Mill no less.

The price does indeed sound reasonable.

Have you ordered/received any from this company yet?

I haven't since I still have some left out from a shipment sent by a couple of great canadians last year (10 kg no less), but Logos5x5 has and had it delivered within 3 days to his doorstep, so I presume is a safe place to buy from, I think I will buy from them next month as I am eating that buckwheat daily.
 
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