Signs that the PTB are losing or winning?

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So, the C's tell us that the Powers That Be will ultimately fail in their quest to implement total control of human beings.

If that's true, then I think we should be seeing signs of that? Are there any?

Here are my thoughts:

Possible signs that the PTB are losing, in no particular order (feel free to add your thoughts or correct mine):

- A lot of people are seeing and drawing parallels to what happened 80 years ago in Germany, see the many posts on Twitter and other social media. So, enough people still remember. Have the PTB miscalculated here and thought that people would NOT remember anymore? Basically, are they too early with their agenda?

- Mass protests all over the world against Covid tyranny. Someone correct me here, but I don't think that when Hitler came to power there were so many demonstrations against him? Although, the communists and socialists were the Nazi's avowed enemies. So maybe back then, there were no protests because people thought that there were sufficient numbers of opposed political parties which provided the bullwork against the Nazis? This is clearly not the case now ... There are no true opposition parties anymore, maybe with the exception of the Republicans in the US, although they mostly appear to be controlled opposition than a true one.

- The "divide and concur" agenda seems to be a little wishy washy. The idea to divide and antagonize humans based on their ethnicities seems to have been the most popular way to find support for genocide among the general population throughout history. It's based on immutable characteristics which one is born with. But now they're going for vaccination status. So, basically EVERYONE can potentially be declared enemy of the state as soon as his vax status expires. This allows for a much larger demographic to be demonized, but also for a much larger potential to wake people up.

- BioNTech's CEO's recent proclamation that to combat Omnicron alone, we will need 3 boosters, on top of the other regular Covid vaxxines (if I understood this correctly). With Omnicron being exceedingly mild - are the PTB here overplaying their hand? Being overconfident that they can play with the little plebs any way they see fit? And so risking a counter-reaction, and increased opposition to their agenda?

- Many loopholes and exemptions: the tyranny this time around seems to be "softer" (so far at least). In the UK for example, one can cite medical reasons for not wearing a mask and the police is not allowed to ask one for the reason (If I understand it correctly). In NZ, a wide range of health care professionals can issue a vax exemption. Were there such or similar loopholes in Germany 80 years ago? I'm not aware, but please correct me if wrong.

- Some dissent is still allowed and gains quite some following. Examples: Candace Owens, Jordan Peterson, Zuby, James Lindsay, David Rubin, have millions of followers each, are outspoken about their anti-tyranny stances, and are being allowed to have those platforms. Was there anything similar taking place 80 years ago? Or is this only, because we're in the early stages, and the dissenters will be eventually dealt with? Or will they be allowed to continue speaking out to maintain the illusion of "freedom and democracy"?

- This may be the biggest one: How mild the virus and all the variants are. During event 201 they were calculating with 65 m deaths, but they got only 5 or 6m, or wherever the numbers stands at now. This is one hell of a doozie, in my opinion. Is this the best they got? If so, then this is one hell of a sign of incompetence.

- Judging from comments section underneath Daily Mail articles which sometimes accrue thousands of comments, people are fed up with the scamdamic and not buying it anymore.

- A growing anarcho-capitalist community. People like Tom Woods, Eric July, Michael Malice, Doug Casey, the whole Mises Institute, James Corbett, Jeremy Kauffman (Odysee creator) have growing followings. Michael Malice's self-published book was briefly on #2 or $3 spot on the amazon sales charts. I see more and more ancap twitter accounts, some of whom have hundreds of thousands of followers. Many people seem to have turned ancaps since the pandemic, which includes myself. More and more people are waking up to the crimes perpetrated by governments.

- Joe Biden / Kamala Harris: Have the PTB overplayed their hand here? By instituting a walking zombie / dementia patient as their spokesman? Did they really think that they can prop up a breathing corpse and that people will buy the charade? I think that by selecting Biden they accidentally pulled away a bit of the curtain and allowed people to see who's behind it.

- Booster shots agenda: Is this another sign of them overplaying their hand? Already, there are those who had 2, who say that they will never take number 3 or 4. Is this again another sign that the PTB are being overconfident?


Possible signs that the PTB are winning, in no particular order (feel free to add your thoughts or correct mine):

- The virus is extremely mild and YET they have largely succeeded in instituting their plans based on such a mild type of infection. Which shows how easily humans are manipulated. The extent of the real threat is not as important as the brainwashing efforts. With enough effort, the smallest issue can be successfully used to control humans. At least this seems to be the lesson here.

- The PTB are advancing their agenda in spite of the mass protests taking place for months. Just like with the Iraq war, which had triggered unprecedented anti-war protests all across the globe. And yet, they still bombed the place. In spite of the massive opposition among the population. Same now, it seems. They just don't care about the protests, or only marginally.

- People are lining up for their boosters. The brainwashing seems to work, in spite of all the failings.
 
The lockdowns made some people really ponder what their life was and what was really significant for them and so, they tend to another life that is not at all like the "life before", some began to inform themselves too, a beginning...

I think of this (and I hope there are some automatic subtitles which could do the job)


It's obviously not the majority of the population but it's something.
 
Chris Sky thinks that the 3rd booster jab was the tipping point for people to wake up. He says that TPB won't ever see as big a compliance with booster jabs as with the first two. I'm not sure about that, I think they will simply tighten the screws more and make it more difficult for people to opt out by threatening them with jail time or with very high fees like in Austria. But we'll see ....

Chris Sky interview: CHRIS SKY EXPOSES BILL GATES, GEORGE SOROS, AND THE MEDICAL TYRANNY CABAL

He says they threw him and his wife into prison for 3 days, solitary confinement, without first going to a police station, without a trial, just transported them straight to jail for distributing toys to children in a hospital.
 
I don't really think of any of these things as signs of victory or defeat for the PTB. Rather, I think that only actions of the PTB can reveal signs - not actions of the people unless they are properly organized to take advantage of certain techniques, such as those employed in planned color revolutions, which are designed to work with only a minority of public participants.

Worse still, signs shown by the PTB are difficult to interpret. For example: despite great evidence of fake pandemic and the protests, the PTB are doubling down on their pandemic narrative and enforcement. Is this a sign of (A) desperation to achieve their aims because public opposition threatens them, or (B) they have so much power that they can simply steamroll over any public objections? I can't tell.

Inorganic, planned color revolutions sometimes work because they have a set of steps organized, funded, and followed precisely to achieve victory for the planners, mobilizing only a public minority. One critical step is to create an event that the media cannot ignore and show violence of oppressors against protestors, to generate public sympathy for the cause - nearly impossible without allies in the mainstream media. None of the opposition that I'm witnessing is working in this organized and effective way, and thus will not hold much sway over the politicians tasked with carrying out the control agenda. I think this is why the Cs said in Session 30 October 2021:

(Temperance) Do the NYC protests have any viable and realistic chance of reversing local mandates and starting a chain reaction (since some areas follow suit on NYC and are waiting to see what happens) or has that ship sailed?

A: Not unless they get a lot bigger.
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To defeat the PTB's pandemic/Great Reset agenda, the movement will have to be organic. There is no "outside"/foreign help, the globalists are everywhere. The "good guys" do not have control of the media, so no fast track to winning over a majority. Without success engineering, not harnessing all of the psychological tricks, and being buried by the media, I don't see any strong signs unless, as the Cs said, opposition gets a lot bigger and, I think, visibly and disruptively bigger to encourage the lazy and the fence-sitters. The average, self-serving person would need to overcome significant fear to get that involved, and even to put themselves in real danger. People need to be pushed to a threshold of unbearable pain before they will act as cornered animals do - and isolated instances of that can be buried by media, as the Cs implied in Session 18 December 2021. The Cs also implied that 4D help would not be significant without a majority crying for it. This again tells me that things need to get a lot worse.

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This is just my current thinking. Of course, I could be wrong.
 
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PopHistorian said:
To defeat the PTB's pandemic/Great Reset agenda, the movement will have to be organic (there is no "outside"/foreign help, the globalists are everywhere), because the "good guys" do not have control of the media. Without success engineering, not harnessing all of the psychological tricks, and being buried by the media, I don't see any strong signs unless, as the Cs said, opposition gets a lot bigger and, I think, visibly and disruptively bigger to encourage the lazy and the fence-sitters. The average, self-serving person would need to overcome significant fear to get that involved, and even to put themselves in real danger. People need to be pushed to a threshold of unbearable pain before they will act as cornered animals do - and isolated examples of that can be buried by media, as the Cs implied in Session 18 December 2021.
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I like your reasoning, but I'd like to add that there's no real chance to actively defeat the PTB's agenda other than letting them stumble over the mess they are creating.

It will probably not be the fake pandemic that will 'wake up' the majority (or at least make them angry with their rulers) but the loss of jobs, food, homes or at least their modest standard of living that will push people to the threshold...

I think we were reminded not to overrate the actions of rebellious types in the streets - though they may be helpful to our own agenda - tactical moves and passive resistance may be successful all the same such as withdrawing support from the system and resisting the vaccination scam and I hope it's not the latter you were calling lazy fence-sitters... ;-)
 
Ursus Minor said:
there's no real chance to actively defeat the PTB's agenda other than letting them stumble over the mess they are creating.
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I'd call that their failure, not their defeat, except in the sense of self-defeat. :) That's the long way around, and does happen. The Cs have suggested that something else entirely will intervene and disrupt/end whatever is going on, which can present new opportunity for non-psychos. This influences my notion that they are probably not going to be defeated in any conventional way imaginable.
 
othree said:
In NZ, a wide range of health care professionals can issue a vax exemption. Were there such or similar loopholes in Germany 80 years ago? I'm not aware, but please correct me if wrong.
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Unfortunately, this was rolled back by the NZ Government. The situation now is that only the Director General of Health can grant an exemption. It is very strict and I know of several potential serious cases such as myocarditis after the first shot or history of anaphylaxic reactions to vaccines, that GPs would not even sponsor an application for an exemption. The solution offered was for people to receive their Pfizer shots in hospital so that emergency care was rapidly available if needed. These people remain unvaxxed. All exemptions previously issued by health practitioner’s were voided.
PopHistorian said:
The Cs have suggested that something else entirely will intervene and disrupt/end whatever is going on, which can present new opportunity for non-psychos. This influences my notion that they are probably not going to be defeated in any conventional way imaginable.
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I agree, I think bigger problems will and have arisen in places which show the PTB up for their complete disinterest in helping people survive. They will simply be pushed aside when we all have more serious problems to deal with.

As for protests, I feel we all just should stop participating. In NZ already you see it, people wearing masks less and less or under their chins, businesses not bothering to check vaccine passes, people ignoring restrictions on numbers that may gather.
Let’s just stop participating.
 
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PopHistorian said:
I don't really think of any of these things as signs of victory or defeat for the PTB. Rather, I think that only actions of the PTB can reveal signs - not actions of the people unless they are properly organized to take advantage of certain techniques, such as those employed in planned color revolutions, which are designed to work with only a minority of public participants.

Worse still, signs shown by the PTB are difficult to interpret. For example: despite great evidence of fake pandemic and the protests, the PTB are doubling down on their pandemic narrative and enforcement. Is this a sign of (A) desperation to achieve their aims because public opposition threatens them, or (B) they have so much power that they can simply steamroll over any public objections? I can't tell.

Inorganic, planned color revolutions sometimes work because they have a set of steps organized, funded, and followed precisely to achieve victory for the planners, mobilizing only a public minority. One critical step is to create an event that the media cannot ignore and show violence of oppressors against protestors, to generate public sympathy for the cause - nearly impossible without allies in the mainstream media. None of the opposition that I'm witnessing is working in this organized and effective way, and thus will not hold much sway over the politicians tasked with carrying out the control agenda. I think this is why the Cs said in Session 30 October 2021:


To defeat the PTB's pandemic/Great Reset agenda, the movement will have to be organic. There is no "outside"/foreign help, the globalists are everywhere. The "good guys" do not have control of the media, so no fast track to winning over a majority. Without success engineering, not harnessing all of the psychological tricks, and being buried by the media, I don't see any strong signs unless, as the Cs said, opposition gets a lot bigger and, I think, visibly and disruptively bigger to encourage the lazy and the fence-sitters. The average, self-serving person would need to overcome significant fear to get that involved, and even to put themselves in real danger. People need to be pushed to a threshold of unbearable pain before they will act as cornered animals do - and isolated instances of that can be buried by media, as the Cs implied in Session 18 December 2021. The Cs also implied that 4D help would not be significant without a majority crying for it. This again tells me that things need to get a lot worse.

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Color Revolutions Explained

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This is just my current thinking. Of course, I could be wrong.
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I like your totally sober thinking. And I mostly agree. But reading through your post and the responses I realized that I should have worded my post better. I think what I really meant to say was "Signs that the PTB's agenda is failing or succeeding".

I don't really care if they fail because of their own inconsistencies and incompetence, or loose because of mass human awakening, as long as they go down, no matter how.

But yes, when looking at whether they are losing or winning based on how their enemies (us humans) are responding, then your analysis is largely correct in my opinion.

When looking at whether they are failing or succeeding, whether due to their own incompetence, infighting, moral and physical degeneration, or external interventions, then I think the situation looks a bit less bleak ... maybe ... hopefully ...
 
gottathink said:
Unfortunately, this was rolled back by the NZ Government.
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Damn it.
gottathink said:
As for protests, I feel we all just should stop participating. In NZ already you see it, people wearing masks less and less or under their chins, businesses not bothering to check vaccine passes, people ignoring restrictions on numbers that may gather.
Let’s just stop participating.
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Yes, another possibility, instead of protesting, bringing them down actively in any way or shape, is just to ignore them. And simply build and live a parallel system.

But I fear that the next step in places where people will start ignoring the mask mandates, vax passports etc., is that they will also simply implement bigger fines and jail sentences for those who don't abide by the rules ... We will see.

Questions regarding the mask mandates in NZ:
- So, there is still an active law on the books that masks need to be worn in certain settings, yes? Like indoors or with gatherings etc? Or is there currently only a recommendation to wear masks? Can someone get a fine or some other punishment for not wearing a mask?
- How many people would you say do NOT keep to the mask mandate? E.g. in a supermarket: How many people were masks vs no mask?
 
PopHistorian said:
I'd call that their failure, not their defeat, except in the sense of self-defeat. :) That's the long way around, and does happen. The Cs have suggested that something else entirely will intervene and disrupt/end whatever is going on, which can present new opportunity for non-psychos. This influences my notion that they are probably not going to be defeated in any conventional way imaginable.
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Yes, I agree.

This also reminds me of what I read in Igor Shafarevich's book "The Socialist Phenomenon" where he describes the psychopathic system which existed during the Inca empire: It was a perfect pathocracy with state mandated, regular human sacrifices of children, total control of subjects, down to who could marry who, what people were allowed to wear, a slave system etc.

That system survived for around 100 years and included around 10 million humans in what is today Chile and Peru. According to some historians it was brought down by only 200 Spanish soldiers who landed on their shores. Not because those 200 physically or militarily overwhelmed the Inca population, but because their arrival was such a shock to the perfectly rigid Inca system then it culminated in the empire's undoing. Or at least that's one of the theories how it was defeated or "failed".

So, I can imagine that something similar could bring down a global, rigid slave system on Earth - some external shock. Be in the form of comets / asteroids, micro-novas, climate disruptions, aliens .... Or maybe that it would be overcome from within by people creating parallel systems, just like they existed in the form of black markets in countries under communist rules in Eastern Europe for example.
 
I also remember Brandon Smith once quoting some mathematical rule, I forgot the name, which proved that there can never be a perfect system, that there will always be some element of chaos or disruption. He mentioned it I think last year in one of his articles on alt-market.us. I forgot exactly what it was and what it said, but he brought it up to prove that a global tyrannical slave system would never be able to survive long term ... Something to that effect.
 
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