Session 23 April 2022

MJF

Jedi Council Member
Here are the scanned pages. Some will be upside down but I presume people will be able to reverse them the right way round. Let me know what you think about the article.
 

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happyliza

The Living Force
I used propolis to clean my mouth and when I have an inflammation of the gums it cures it in 2 or 3 days. It is a fantastic remedy. I didn't know that we can use it with a nebulizer. Do you have the link with the article? Also, what is HOCL?

Thank you!
Hi Loreta. There is no article nor are the live recordings made public. You have to sign up every week via email for Dr. Klinghardt's debriefings. This is for his own protection as we know what happens to those who help cure people using natural remedies. Many naturopaths and those who create their own machines and specialist healing modalities are targeted. Even his friend Dr Monseigneur who tried to warn people about the AIDs infections was murdered not long ago.
HOCL is a specialist remedy Dr K made, available from Ki Science in Brighton, uk. Or Sophia Institute in Seattle, US.

It takes me five to six hours at the weekend to write down each lecture. As, again, no recordings are allowed, for the same reasons. But to me it is time very well spent as he shares a lifetime work with his students, all free, to ensure that the truth is available for everyone to benefit from. This week he was saying how plants are far more effective than any pharma stuff, and that he aims to share remedies that are not sky high that only the elites that caused the illnesses in the first place can afford them. That he hopes to help the average person who has a low budget. Which is me!! lol
 

Sol Logos

Dagobah Resident
Consciousness touches all points in space. But it is selective for some point in space. And when the consciousness decides to pay attention to something, a third point of contact is generated that makes the observer and the observed occupy the same reality...

As I think more and more about this, I begin to see that consciousness is either part of or is the central equation for the UFT.
Yes I think I follow what you mean. I was pondering similar earlier in the thread. It seems that the "expansion" of consciousness, not unlike the expansion of matter since the "big bang" could be about generating more points of observation.
I was pondering this idea of consciousness units and this focus on 1,2,3 from that past session together to help unpack some questions.

Say “1” represents first of something, what if it describes the first unit of what becomes consciousness?

Say it does and there’s only 1 unit of consciousness “in the beginning” as a “subject” with no “object” to be conscious of, do we have “fully formed” consciousness yet? What if we require at least a 2nd consciousness unit for this to start with?

There’s this theory of a “mirror stage” for young children (up to six months) when they first perceive of themselves as a distinct individuals from others and objects around them. It requires them seeing a reflection of some sort like a mirror / glass / puddle / shadow etc. to fully comprehend what is not them and what is. The theory comes from the psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan.

So is a kind of separation and/or differentiation of consciousness required to form consciousness in a subject / object kind of way? In other words, does consciousness need a separation of at least 2 consciousness units to form itself “more fully”?

If so, does this also require a kind of rudimentary space-time?

I say rudimentary as separation requires some kind of “space” between, at least in the most simple form of that. And the act of consciousness splitting into 2 and initiating “space” also I’m guessing initiates a simple “cause and effect” reality. Before there was no separate consciousness and space between, after comes an initial consciousness split and space as result. In other words, a simple form of “time” also comes into being.

I realise this is getting extremely abstract and also kind of self evident as I write it out. It’s more of a thought experiment that I feel might help lead to better questions than I can think of.

Anyway, I wonder too, could we say that time and space is a type of medium consciousness requires to not just become “active” but also interact? As far as I can tell actions deriving from our consciousness cannot occur without time and space.

This part pertains to the number 3. What if only 2 “observers” or units of consciousness is insufficient? What I mean is there is no impartial “observation” with only 2 units of consciousness. For example, in human relations we often call on someone to mediate a conflict that occurs between 2 parties. This happens when polar perspectives become fixed on “truth” in black and white terms. Often we need a 3rd party to see the complexities or the grey colours between and provide those 2 parties a more objective assessment. What if this pattern is reminiscent of the initial separation described above? In other words, is a third consciousness unit also required to facilitate this kind of evolution / maturity of consciousness?

Lastly, each of these theoretical units of consciousness could continue this process.
Would this lead to a kind of exponential growth of differentiation of consciousness units?

Would this also, increase the complexity of this beginning rudimentary medium for consciousness interactions in space and time? In other words providing us a rich matrix of perspectives / information as we are now experiencing?

I know a lot of these questions sound rhetorical and probably could be asked in clearer and more tangible ways. So I don’t know if they are helpful questions or the right ones. Certainly don’t know the answers either! But hope this kind of thought experiment is of interest to others for what it’s worth.
Attention is very much like light as well. First is that it is directional - it starts from our intention to observe say the coffee pot towards the act of observation of the coffee pot. Light is also directional. If our coffee pot was in a dark room, we may use a torch as our light source to shines on this object that now becomes illuminated. Secondly, attention is also the act of illuminating this coffee pot so we become aware of it.
As for consciousness and UFT, I recall that the C's once told Ark in relation to improving Einstein's famous equation of E=mc² that substituting consciousness in place of the speed of light would help. The meaning of Einstein's equation is that he was proposing a world in which mass is just energy waiting to be 'set free'. However, the C's seem to be suggesting instead a deep connection between energy and consciousness.
So if we substitute consciousness for light, there's also other parts to substitute - mass and energy. From the above analogy what consciousness becomes attentive towards is an object (or matter) that exists in time and space. Consciousness requires some kind of medium to interact within. We might call this medium - reality. Among other purposes, reality provides us a way to generate and exchange information. As information is generated, we might say that has mass - which could be a product of the degrees of concentration of information. But then what does these substitutions tell us about / equals. Perhaps energy basically needs an alike substitution.

Information we put our attention towards as well us information we generate with this act of attention tells us about our experience and/or the quality of our experience. Our emotions are also a gauge of the quality of our experience. We have associated feelings when our life experience is good (positive) or bad (negative), relatively speaking. So emotions are also directional - they help us direct away from negative experiences and associated consequences. The term e-motion indicates energy in motion towards a direction.
A) Interchangeable.
B) It touches all points in space. (zero space - zero time / no emanation point)
C) Alters the geometry of space.
D) Interacts with itself.
F) It makes a contribution or subtraction of energy by the property of accumulation or dispersion of gravity
(level of attention of the consciousness / awarness / spiral / vortex).

If for example the C's say that all can be accessed by unstable gravitational waves, doesn't it imply that the opposite may be true? That is to say that the gravitational wave or waves when they are not unstable are in an isodynamic state. (Having the same strength or intensity.) In that sense when you accumulate or disperse you are changing the strength or intensity and it is no longer balanced. You would be altering the isodynamic state which would be the state where you get the constant for gravity. You can describe that as a gradient.
I'm not sure but get a sense that this talks about the same idea as in the concentration of information. That is the medium within which consciousness interacts with itself, is where it also generates and exchanges information. Perhaps the strength of gravity is just the same. Our attention of course would bias towards where there is richer (more dense) information as opposed to where information is less.
 

MJF

Jedi Council Member
Yes I think I follow what you mean. I was pondering similar earlier in the thread. It seems that the "expansion" of consciousness, not unlike the expansion of matter since the "big bang" could be about generating more points of observation.

Attention is very much like light as well. First is that it is directional - it starts from our intention to observe say the coffee pot towards the act of observation of the coffee pot. Light is also directional. If our coffee pot was in a dark room, we may use a torch as our light source to shines on this object that now becomes illuminated. Secondly, attention is also the act of illuminating this coffee pot so we become aware of it.

So if we substitute consciousness for light, there's also other parts to substitute - mass and energy. From the above analogy what consciousness becomes attentive towards is an object (or matter) that exists in time and space. Consciousness requires some kind of medium to interact within. We might call this medium - reality. Among other purposes, reality provides us a way to generate and exchange information. As information is generated, we might say that has mass - which could be a product of the degrees of concentration of information. But then what does these substitutions tell us about / equals. Perhaps energy basically needs an alike substitution.

Information we put our attention towards as well us information we generate with this act of attention tells us about our experience and/or the quality of our experience. Our emotions are also a gauge of the quality of our experience. We have associated feelings when our life experience is good (positive) or bad (negative), relatively speaking. So emotions are also directional - they help us direct away from negative experiences and associated consequences. The term e-motion indicates energy in motion towards a direction.

I'm not sure but get a sense that this talks about the same idea as in the concentration of information. That is the medium within which consciousness interacts with itself, is where it also generates and exchanges information. Perhaps the strength of gravity is just the same. Our attention of course would bias towards where there is richer (more dense) information as opposed to where information is less.
Did a little research on the idea of creation being an information field (since I am familiar with David Wilcock's work and his concept of the source field) and stumbled across this article, which discusses the idea of the universe being an information field. It seems to mirror some of your ideas. The Universe as an Information Field : An approach to a unified theory of everything!
 

MJF

Jedi Council Member
The shape and structure of the machine looks similar to that of the searl effect.

This looks interesting tom me. I would add though that when I first read Lander's article, the fact that he was using counter-rotating elctromagnets made me immediately link his experiments with the Nazi Bell, which according to legend was based on counter-rotating electromagnets in drum shapes. The legend also suggests that the Nazis combined this with a special isotope of mercury. However, it was noted that they did not use AC current to power the Bell but high voltage direct current instead. It looks from his CV that Lander did some work for the US Department of Defence. I wonder if he picked anything up from that work? Perhaps his book may shed more light on this.
 

MJF

Jedi Council Member
By an odd synchronicity the name "Lander(s)" features in this post too. I am opting to post part of an article I have been writing on Stonehenge here since it provides another possible example of an engineer making use of UFT but this time based on information he claimed he had received from aliens. I offer an advance apology if this material has already been mentioned on the Forum before but I am citing it because it shows again how geometry may be factored into the application of UFT.​

George Van Tassel and the Integratron

The story of George Van Tassel is truly amazing. Although today he is famous as an alien contactee and a major UFO activist and conference organiser during the 1950’s and 60’s, he also gained a certain notoriety, and the unwanted attention of the FBI, for his construction of the structure now known as the Integratron.

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The Integratron in Landers, California

You may ask that, other than being circular in shape (it is in fact a 16-sided polygon or Hexadecagon), what does this late 20th Century structure have in common with Stonehenge and Chaco Canyon. The answer is that Tassel claimed the building when operated properly would act as a rejuvenation centre (as could the Great Pyramid according to the C’s) and recharge cell structure. Like Stonehenge, it also had very special acoustic properties. Tassel claimed on live TV that he had been contacted by a group of aliens and they instructed him as to its construction and purpose. I set out below Van Tassel’s history (per Wikipedia) and further details concerning the incredible structure that is the Integratron.

Background

Van Tassel was born in Jefferson, Ohio in 1910, and grew up in a fairly prosperous middle-class family. He finished high school in the 10th grade and held a job at a small municipal airport near Cleveland, he also acquired a private pilot licence. At age 20, he moved to California where, at first, he worked as an automobile mechanic at a garage owned by an uncle.

While pumping gas at the garage, he met Frank Critzer, an eccentric loner who claimed to be working a mine somewhere near Giant Rock*, a 7-story boulder near Landers, California in the Mojave Desert. Frank Critzer was claimed by others to be a German immigrant. However, he was born in the USA. During World War II, Critzer came under suspicion as a German spy and killed himself by a dynamite explosion during a police siege at the Rock in 1942. Upon receiving news of Critzer's death, Van Tassel applied for a lease of the small, abandoned airport near Giant Rock from the Bureau of Land Management, and was eventually given a Federal Government contract to develop and maintain the airstrip.

Van Tassel became an aircraft mechanic and flight inspector who at various times between 1930 and 1947 worked for Douglas Aircraft, Hughes Aircraft, and Lockheed. While at Hughes Aircraft he was their top Flight Inspector. In 1947, Van Tassel left Southern California’s booming aerospace industry to live in the desert with his family. At first, he lived a simple existence in the rooms Frank Critzer had dug out under Giant Rock. Van Tassel eventually built a new home, a café, a gas station, a store, a small airstrip, and a dude ranch beside the Rock.

*The Native American Indians considered Giant Rock as sacred and only their medicine men and chiefs were allowed to go near it.

The Integratron

George Van Tassel started hosting group meditation in 1953 in a room underneath Giant Rock, excavated by Frank Critzer. That year, according to Van Tassel the occupant of a spaceship from the planet Venus woke him up, invited him on board his spaceship, and both verbally and telepathically gave him a technique for rejuvenating the human body. In 1954, Van Tassel and others began building what they called the "Integratron" to perform the rejuvenation. According to Van Tassel, the Integratron was to be a structure for scientific research into time, anti-gravity and at extending human life, built partially upon the research of Nikola Tesler and Georges Lakhovsky. Van Tassel described the Integratron as being created for scientific and spiritual research with the aim to recharge and rejuvenate people's cells, "a time machine for basic research on rejuvenation, anti-gravity and time travel". The domed wooden structure has a rotating metal apparatus on the outside he called an "electrostatic dirod". Van Tassel claimed it was made of non-ferromagnetic materials: wood, concrete, glass, and fibreglass, lacking even metal screws or nails. The Integratron was never fully completed due to Van Tassel's sudden death a few weeks before the official opening. In recent times some people who visit the unfinished Integratron claim to be rejuvenated by staying there and experiencing "sound baths" inside.​

Conventions and Organisations

Van Tassel was a classic 1950’s contactee in the mould of George Adamski, Truman Bethurum, Daniel Fry, Orfeo Angelucci and many others. He hosted "The Giant Rock Spacecraft Convention" annually beside the Rock, from 1953 to 1978, which attracted at its peak in 1959 as many as 10,000 attendees. Guests trekked to the desert by car or landed airplanes on Van Tassel's small airstrip, called Giant Rock Airport.

Over the years, every famous contactee of the period appeared personally at these conventions, and many more not-so-famous ones. References often state that the first and most famous contactee, George Adamski, pointedly boycotted these conventions; however, Adamski did, in fact attend the third convention, held in 1955, where he gave a 35-minute lecture and was interviewed by Edward J. Ruppelt, once head of the Air Force ‘Project Blue Book’. It was apparently the only such convention Adamski ever attended.

Van Tassel founded a metaphysics research organization called The Ministry of Universal Wisdom, and The College of Universal Wisdom to codify the spiritual revelations he was now regularly receiving via communications with the people from Space.

Well, you can easily write him off as a UFO nutter or a showman like Adamski but there does seem to be something to his Integratron and its design. Quoting now from an article in Atlantic Magazine titled ‘A Time Machine in the Mojave Desert’ written by Jennifer McCartney and published in February 2015:​

“According to Van Tassel, the site was determined by its relationship to the Great Pyramids in Giza as well as its proximity to magnetic vortices. It is a 16-sided metal-free building constructed using a technique called joinery—no nails or screws were used in an attempt to avoid interference with the conductive properties of the machine. Inside, the acoustically perfect sanctuary made of Douglas fir rises three stories high and features sweeping views of the desert from its 16 small windows. The Integratron remains open to visitors today, although it’s no longer outfitted for the purpose of time travel—the machinery is, mysteriously, long gone.

… on August 24, 1953, it was here [at Giant Rock] that Van Tassel received his instructions regarding what would become his “tabernacle”—the Integratron.

Van Tassel liked to say that both he and Moses were compelled to build their tabernacles via instructions from a man that came out of the sky — in Moses’s case it was God, and in Van Tassel’s, an extraterrestrial. Van Tassel writes in his memoir I Rode a Flying Saucer that he awoke one night to find a man standing at the foot of his bed. “Beyond the man, about a hundred yards away, hovered a glittering, glowing spaceship, seemingly about eight feet off the ground.” The man introduced himself in English as Solganda from the planet Venus and invited Van Tassel aboard his ship, where he divulged the schematics of the Integratron. Its construction would become Van Tassel’s focus for the next 25 years.

“Science continually disproves its own theories,” he explained about his willingness to believe. “This is the only gauge by which man can record progress. Even time is only recognized as it passes and events recorded after they happen. Man accepts three-dimensional theory, because the illusion is understandable to his limited thinking. With applied, undisturbed effort, man can develop his all-dimensional sense of being, and record time and events in the future, as well as present and past.”

But Van Tassel’s beliefs about the fluid and unreliable nature of time were in many ways a reflection on mortality. “The biggest trouble on this planet is, that when you get smart enough to do something with the knowledge you have acquired here, death intervenes,” he wrote. “Our life span is just too short.” Van Tassel’s solution to old age was “a high voltage electrostatic generator that would supply a broad range of frequencies to recharge cellular structure.” By recharging cells through electromagnetism, we could turn back the clock, thereby extending life span, he said. It wasn’t about transporting people through time—the aim of his time machine was to turn back the clock, to give our physical bodies more time. He compared it to charging a car battery—although as the professor Bates points out, the concept of charging cells is, like many of Van Tassel’s ideas, “too vague a concept to be considered a testable conjecture.”

He was determined to provide his naysayers with irrefutable evidence in the form of his rejuvenation machine—which he believed would offer proof his alien encounter while benefiting mankind immeasurably.

The science behind the Integratron is based on electromagnetics. In his quarterly magazine Proceedings, Van Tassel described the ongoing construction of the building to his followers:

The armature, 55 feet in diameter, has been the most difficult part of this whole project. Requirements for anti-friction, expansion and contraction from heat and cold, and wet and dry conditions, have made this armature a mechanical wonder. Four times larger in diameter than the largest armature ever built, it floats on 16 Teflon-bearing blocks which are supplied with compressed air to "float" the armature on air. One-hundred and twenty pounds of air in each bearing block literally floats this 1,700 Pound spinner. The 64 Aluminium collectors are about to be mounted on the spinner.

The rotating armature was to be outfitted with 64 “static collectors” made of aluminium—capable of gathering 50,000 volts of static electricity from the air and delivering it to the cells of the participants inside. A large coiled copper wire running through the centre of the building was also planned to aid conduction. Those undergoing the treatment were meant to receive this energy while stationed inside the machine, wearing all-white outfits. But while Van Tassel revealed much about his plans for the Integratron he also kept many of the details necessary for completing the project to himself. Van Tassel died of a heart attack in 1978—although apparently those who knew him to be in good health found his passing suspicious. His epitaph supposedly read: “Birth through Induction, Death by Short Circuit.”

Lacking funds, the necessary blueprints for completion, and their charismatic leader, the Integratron project soon stalled. The building was sold to a man who planned to turn it into a disco. It sat empty for years. Van Tassel’s equipment disappeared—making it difficult to determine just how much of his vision he had constructed before his death. It was bought by three sisters in 2000 who opened the building to the public and now promote it as a place of healing as well as advertising its unusual acoustic properties.”


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The Ceiling of the Integratron

Van Tassel died at the age of 67 from a heart attack (although it was claimed he was in good health beforehand) just prior to giving a public lecture. He had claimed the Integraton was 95% complete at the time. What is suspicious is that his papers and equipment were seized by the US government even as his funeral was going on, never to be seen again (Cf. with Nikola Tesla’s papers which were also seized by the US government immediately after his death). This would seem to indicate that the government took his claims seriously. Unfortunately, he did not leave any instructions behind that might have helped finish the construction.

It is worth pointing out that Van Tassel was ahead of his time in applying electrical currents (unless you consider Royal Raymond Rife’s machines of the 1930’s; see Royal Rife - Wikipedia) for health purposes.

As noted in the article above, it is interesting that Van Tassel made a connection between the instructions Yahweh gave to Moses to build the Ark of the Covenant and the instructions he received from the aliens to build the Integratron, particularly given what the C’s have said about the true identity of Yahweh. Indeed, he also thought the angels in the Old Testament were like the aliens he had met in the desert.

Van Tassel believed the Great Pyramid at Giza, which he had studied, was an electricity conductor using the piezo-electric effect. He also thought the Great Pyramid could rejuvenate a person. The C’s have in fact confirmed this point when they said that if you stood in a particular spot within the Great Pyramid, you would indeed become younger. Van Tassel also seemed to think that the Great Pyramid was built in a portal area like Great Rock in Landers, California, so he appeared to be aware of the concept of portals.

Intriguingly, some scientists believe that the Integratron’s design may indicate that he intended to utilise sound and not just electricity since the building has 16 parabolic parts or sides at the top (see photograph above) and an octagon at the bottom. Others think that he may have intended the Integratron to open-up an acoustic portal to communicate with his aliens. If this is correct, it links the Integratron with Stonehenge, which the C’s said had been designed to receive telepathic communications from higher densities, as may also have been the case at Newgrange in Ireland and the Hypogeum on Malta (another round structure) with its famous speaking chamber, which displays extraordinary acoustic qualities.

You might well ask what all this has to do with Alton Towers. The answer is that Alton Towers contains a room which is known as the Octagon, a geometric structure also favoured by the Knights Templar in the construction of their chapels and churches. Was this merely a design feature or did the 15th Earl of Shrewsbury who built the stately home know something? Were the C’s perhaps trying to draw our attention to this when they mentioned Alton Towers?
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The Octagon at Alton Towers
 

Nienna

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Amazing. Just today, (bah I couldn't sleep tonight) I found this video from May 14 of the thunderbolts project. Perhaps I can shed some light (not pun intended) on the matter.
That sounds like a good idea, Bluegazer. I've found this topic quite interesting. May I suggest that you start a new thread for it, though? If you want, you can put a link to it in this thread.
 

MJF

Jedi Council Member





Knowing and having learned a lot on the forum, it is my understanding that any reference to a dark realm is a clear reference to STS mode. And that of course any reference to snakes speaks clearly of lizzies. But in the quote to your text where it speaks of fire pits, the latter refer me to the idea of the biblical lake of fire where this happens to be the well of energy that refers to the flora and fauna where there is no individualized soul. The lake of fire where the souls will go after a soul smashing.






Perhaps it is related to Persian mytholgy




Three things here. The size of the child, the summon of the Simurgh and how the word is phonetically in Persian: [rosˈtæm]



It is as if the Simurgh represents knowledge.
Sorry but I overlooked your comments in this post but would say that you make some very good connections here. The 7 June 1997 session was the one that made reference to Alton Towers. Some of the points referred to in the session have been discussed on the Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon Thread:
See Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians

BTW: I came to the conclusion that "Dancar" was the Yorkshire town of Doncaster, given its original Celtic and Roman names. This then led to a connection with certain famous English astronomers who were in turn linked to the Elizabethan magus John Dee. They were also contemporaries of Francis Bacon and might well have been fellow Rosicrucians.​

Also, what the C's say about the Kaluza-Klein Theory in that session may be relevant to this thread:

Q: Ark did some reading on the Einstein thing, the letters to Kaluza, and there did not seem to be anything that E did in the period mentioned that would make one tend to think that there was a UFT from him in that time. But, Kaluza DID have an interesting idea about a 5 dimensional cylinder UFT which Einstein thought was quite startling. Yet, it seems that Einstein somewhat delayed Kaluza's presentation. What struck me was the word 'cylinder' which reminded me of the earlier session where I asked if the Germans had developed a time machine and you said 'yes,' and that it was in Antarctica, and that 'they' were 'exploring the loop of the cylinder.' You said that the loop of the cylinder was a 4th thru 6th density profile. Could you give me some elaboration on this cylinder, the loop of the cylinder, and whether it was Kaluza who did the UFT and not Einstein?

A: Cylinder is really a double loop, is it not? And meditate if you will on the true meaning of this!

Q: Is it true that Kaluza had the theory and Einstein didn't?

A: Maybe it is that Einstein first hypothesized, and others were then commissioned for the purpose of completion in order to lead to application.

Q: Ark says: When I asked the question 'how many dimensions has the real world,' the C's answer was 'the correct question is how many worlds has the true dimension.' And they never answered if the Kaluza Klein ideas are right or wrong. And, I wrote a book on that kind of geometry. We need to know it. It is essential for progress.’

A: If one needs to find a house, is it not necessary to know the path to get there?


For those not aware, the time machine the C's are referring to is 'Die Glocke' or the Bell mentioned in earlier posts on this thread. I have heard it said that Einstein, although a brilliant theoretical physicist, was not as great a mathematician. If this is correct, then what the C's are saying about others being commissioned to complete the Kaluza Klein Theory makes sense. Remember that the electrical engineer Gabriel Kron (see earlier post) was one of those who subsequently applied the theory. Was it also applied to the Philadelphia Experiment I wonder?

Where Andrew Collins refers to "... [Egyptian] books of the dead, speak repeatedly of a realm of darkness existing beneath the earth, guarded by demons and snakes", I would point out that the Mayans and Aztecs of Central America held very similar concepts about the afterlife to those of the Egyptians as regards the underworld (the Duat or Greek Hades), which the Mayans called Xibalba and the Aztecs called Mictlan (see attached article for more on this Mictlan - Underworld Realm Of The Dead In Ancient Aztec Beliefs - Ancient Pages).

Interestingly, the Norse equivalent of the place of the dead was called Niflheim, which etymologically seems very similar to 'Nephilim'. I guess the nearest Christian equivalent today would be the Catholic belief in Purgatory - a place of purgation by fire of the soul.​
 

MJF

Jedi Council Member
In my last post on George Van Tassel's Integratron, Jennifer McCartney mentions that:

“According to Van Tassel, the site was determined by its relationship to the Great Pyramids in Giza as well as its proximity to magnetic vortices. It is a 16-sided metal-free building constructed using a technique called joinery — no nails or screws were used in an attempt to avoid interference with the conductive properties of the machine."

Many ancient megalithic structures would seem to be aligned through ley lines to the Great Pyramids in Giza and are situated in proximity to magnetic vortices. However, I was intrigues by the notion that the Integratron was a metal-free building with no nails or screw being used in its construction. Having just read the session dated 7 June 1997, I wonder if there might be another explanation:

Q: So, it is the iron that the Celts need? Well, that brings me to the next question: In all the Celtic folklore when they talk about 'fairies,' which are obviously other density beings very similar to our modern 'Gray alien,' these fairy/slash aliens insist that no iron come near them in any way. It was also said that bringing iron into contact with someone thought to be a 'changeling' would prove whether or not they were because if they were, they would disappear instantly. Also, the instructions for the building of the Temple of Solomon included restrictions on the use of iron in either the preparation of the materials or the putting together of the building itself, even down to the rejection of the use of iron nails in any part. What is the significance of this restriction on the use of iron by these other density beings, whoever they are?

A: Bloodline trails.

Q: Are you saying that... I don't understand... not even well enough to frame another question...

A: You will, my dear, oh will you!


If the Temple of Solomon was the Great Pyramid of Giza, then this lack of the use of iron in its construction might provide another link between the Pyramid and the Integratron. Recall that Van Tasell had made a great study of the Pyramid. Does this also suggest that the Great Pyramid could at one time have been a tabernacle prior to the Ark of the Covenant?
 

OutSky

Jedi
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Intriguingly, some scientists believe that the Integratron’s design may indicate that he intended to utilise sound and not just electricity since the building has 16 parabolic parts or sides at the top (see photograph above) and an octagon at the bottom. Others think that he may have intended the Integratron to open-up an acoustic portal to communicate with his aliens. If this is correct, it links the Integratron with Stonehenge, which the C’s said had been designed to receive telepathic communications from higher densities, as may also have been the case at Newgrange in Ireland and the Hypogeum on Malta (another round structure) with its famous speaking chamber, which displays extraordinary acoustic qualities.

You might well ask what all this has to do with Alton Towers. The answer is that Alton Towers contains a room which is known as the Octagon, a geometric structure also favoured by the Knights Templar in the construction of their chapels and churches. Was this merely a design feature or did the 15th Earl of Shrewsbury who built the stately home know something? Were the C’s perhaps trying to draw our attention to this when they mentioned Alton Towers?​

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The Octagon at Alton Towers

Above, interesting research.

—Perhaps this reply and comments might to be better placed if in ‘Alton Towers thread’? Well, the admins surely can judge that.
Anyway, next from the 1857 Illustrated London News —a weekly newspaper— we have another image of the Alton Towers Octagon Hall:​
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Octagon of Alton Towers from the 1857 Illustrated London News

Now, in this other drawing we can easily realize another detail: the central pillar of the octagon of Alton Towers shows the ceiling right above it divided in 16 parts.

Furthermore, another possible clue: the octagonal building called Horologion of Andronikos Kyrrhestes —also called Tower of the Winds— is claimed an 50 BC octagonal clocktower in Athens that functioned as a "timepiece" (horologion). Indeed in the interior of the tower there are 8 sundials, as well as there was a water clock (clepsydra):​
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50 BC octagonal Tower of the Winds

Moreover, it is a fact that this above tower served as designing for several famous edifices, and maybe, I speculate, even to the Octagon of Alton. But most interesting: could we remember the “spins” recommended by C’s?! Well, under the time of Ottoman rule the dervishes used that Athenian tower to whirl themselves.​
October 28, 1994 Session

Q: (L) “Bringers of the Dawn” advised spinning, is this advisable for all of us?
A: Major yes.

Q: (L) How many times a day?
A: 3

Q: (L) How many times?
A: 33

Q: (L) Is it ok to do it in the pool?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Is the altar beneficial to have in one’s house?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Is that okay beneficial?
A: Be careful not to jump to conclusions.
 
In my last post on George Van Tassel's Integratron, Jennifer McCartney mentions that:

“According to Van Tassel, the site was determined by its relationship to the Great Pyramids in Giza as well as its proximity to magnetic vortices. It is a 16-sided metal-free building constructed using a technique called joinery — no nails or screws were used in an attempt to avoid interference with the conductive properties of the machine."

Many ancient megalithic structures would seem to be aligned through ley lines to the Great Pyramids in Giza and are situated in proximity to magnetic vortices. However, I was intrigues by the notion that the Integratron was a metal-free building with no nails or screw being used in its construction. Having just read the session dated 7 June 1997, I wonder if there might be another explanation:

Q: So, it is the iron that the Celts need? Well, that brings me to the next question: In all the Celtic folklore when they talk about 'fairies,' which are obviously other density beings very similar to our modern 'Gray alien,' these fairy/slash aliens insist that no iron come near them in any way. It was also said that bringing iron into contact with someone thought to be a 'changeling' would prove whether or not they were because if they were, they would disappear instantly. Also, the instructions for the building of the Temple of Solomon included restrictions on the use of iron in either the preparation of the materials or the putting together of the building itself, even down to the rejection of the use of iron nails in any part. What is the significance of this restriction on the use of iron by these other density beings, whoever they are?

A: Bloodline trails.

Q: Are you saying that... I don't understand... not even well enough to frame another question...

A: You will, my dear, oh will you!


If the Temple of Solomon was the Great Pyramid of Giza, then this lack of the use of iron in its construction might provide another link between the Pyramid and the Integratron. Recall that Van Tasell had made a great study of the Pyramid. Does this also suggest that the Great Pyramid could at one time have been a tabernacle prior to the Ark of the Covenant?
Bloodlines is related to the right genetic makeup that is suitable for certain type of soul. The reason for this is the STS trying to invade upper realm when we ascended in addition to the nano graphene booster which essentially acted like a chip implant to control us later. Worked similar to technological telepathy, it seems to be functioning well so far. Example, a lot of people with covid shots started hearing voice/5G telling them to go on killing spree, etc. Regarding the use of iron, I read it when learning about witch inquisition. You might think the inquisitors would burn a lot more men since they were actively doing evil deeds in real world while women mostly stay at home housewife. The reason of this is women lost bloods (high in iron content) during menstruations which lower their vibrations temporarily making them prone to dark spirit possessions/attack. Iron has magnetic fields that is creating energy forcefield around you. It makes you function in stable range of frequency thus making it difficult for lower/dark spirit to posses you. Naturally, it work the other way around too, you don't want iron around in spiritual places when you are trying to achieve greater spiritual enlightenment as it will act as a drag to your growth. The stability/ attachment to your current frequency prevent you to acquire higher level ideas/inspirations or purification. Hope this help.
 

MJF

Jedi Council Member

Above, interesting research.

—Perhaps this reply and comments might to be better placed if in ‘Alton Towers thread’? Well, the admins surely can judge that.
Anyway, next from the 1857 Illustrated London News —a weekly newspaper— we have another image of the Alton Towers Octagon Hall:​
81xatsNaHHL._AC_SL1394_.jpg

Octagon of Alton Towers from the 1857 Illustrated London News

Now, in this other drawing we can easily realize another detail: the central pillar of the octagon of Alton Towers shows the ceiling right above it divided in 16 parts.

Furthermore, another possible clue: the octagonal building called Horologion of Andronikos Kyrrhestes —also called Tower of the Winds— is claimed an 50 BC octagonal clocktower in Athens that functioned as a "timepiece" (horologion). Indeed in the interior of the tower there are 8 sundials, as well as there was a water clock (clepsydra):​
360px-Tour_Vents_-_Ath%C3%A8nes_%28GRA1%29_-_2022-03-26_-_2.jpg

50 BC octagonal Tower of the Winds

Moreover, it is a fact that this above tower served as designing for several famous edifices, and maybe, I speculate, even to the Octagon of Alton. But most interesting: could we remember the “spins” recommended by C’s?! Well, under the time of Ottoman rule the dervishes used that Athenian tower to whirl themselves.​
Thank you, this is a brilliant find since it draws a direct connection between the construction of the Octagon at Alton Towers and that of the Integratron of George Van Tassel. Tassel, however, claimed to get his design from aliens from Venus!!! If his Integratron had ever been finished, he expected that it would have allowed one to communicate with these aliens, presumably in a similar fashion to the Ancient Britons at Stonehenge.

As I said earlier, Newgrange in Ireland and the Hypogeum on Malta also exhibit extraordinary acoustic qualities. I have literally just watched a program that featured the Hypogeum and the experts were saying that it was designed and constructed to put people into an alpha state, which opens up the possibility of them being able to enter into an altered state of consciousness similar to those who use mind altering drugs like ayahuasca. These same experts presume the Hypogeum was created as a necropolis, where people could go to speak to the dead. Alternatively, I suppose they could have used it as a means of receiving messages from higher densities.

One wonders whether the Octagon at Alton towers may have been put to more interesting purposes - particularly as one of the Earls of Shrewsbury allegedly had an interest in alchemy and presumably to all things esoteric. I looked back on the Alton Towers thread and found some additional information on the English Stately Home that you originally provided:​

There are folkloric stories surrounding the Alton towers that may ring the bells. I have long lost the original weblinks, but is easy to find similar accounts in the net. So, I quote them from my old archives. But to tell about them in fewer words, the stuff goes around a supposed curse cast over the blood-lineage of the original Alton Towers's owners, which, by the way, was formerly called “Alton Abbey” then residence of the 16th Earl when the place became known as "Alton Towers".

Oh, I was almost forgetting to tell that nearby the towers, many other oak trees are told cared —I don’t remember the details about— to prevent the fall of heavy branches.
Well remembered. I checked back on Voyageur's posting above and found this additional bit of information on the curse:

"The legend says that the 15th Earl of Shrewsbury was cursed by an old beggarwoman to suffer a death in the family every time a branch fell from the old oak tree. Hex's version embellishes the end of the 'original' tale with the Earl experimenting on one of the fallen branches in a vault deep within the Towers themselves, and it is this vault, with its entrance bricked up behind a bookcase, that has supposedly been sealed up for two centuries and only recently discovered during renovation work. This is explained in several scenes during the experience.

This attraction was closed for the duration of the 2016 season, but underwent repairs in the winter before reopening in 2017."

I wonder why the vault was sealed up for two centuries. Was it just because of the curse or was one of the earls dabbling in alchemy and the curse was simply a cover story?

You subsequently added another interesting item on eight-sided structures, which is relevant to what we are discussing here:

"Furthermore, probably there are geomagnetic aspects associated with “architectonic elements” arranged into certain numbers and directions. For one example, the researcher John Keel mentioned a story of sinister and enigmatic towers scattered by the Himalayan Asia and elsewhere."
The Eight Tower —John Keel

‘Stretching across Asia, from Northern Manchuria, through Tibet, west through Persia, and ending in the Kurdistan, was a chain of 7 towers, on isolated mountain tops’, William Seabrook wrote in his Adventures in Arabia, and in each of these towers sat continually a priest of Satan, who by "broadcasting" occult vibrations controlled the destinies of the world for evil.

Indeed ancient towers still exist today in the region above, and some are star-shaped with “8 points”.
Not counting ruins, more than 200 stone towers are still standing today in Southwest China, surviving yearly earthquakes and tremors, in northwestern areas of Sichuan inhabited by the Qiangsand Jiarong Tibetans, and one area of southeastern Tibet Autonomous Region. The uniquely-shaped constructions, possibly dating back to 1,200 years, are as tall as 15-storey buildings.
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Hence, it is clear that people throughout history and in different parts of the world have viewed octagonal structures as having special qualities.
 
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MJF

Jedi Council Member
Bloodlines is related to the right genetic makeup that is suitable for certain type of soul. The reason for this is the STS trying to invade upper realm when we ascended in addition to the nano graphene booster which essentially acted like a chip implant to control us later. Worked similar to technological telepathy, it seems to be functioning well so far. Example, a lot of people with covid shots started hearing voice/5G telling them to go on killing spree, etc. Regarding the use of iron, I read it when learning about witch inquisition. You might think the inquisitors would burn a lot more men since they were actively doing evil deeds in real world while women mostly stay at home housewife. The reason of this is women lost bloods (high in iron content) during menstruations which lower their vibrations temporarily making them prone to dark spirit possessions/attack. Iron has magnetic fields that is creating energy forcefield around you. It makes you function in stable range of frequency thus making it difficult for lower/dark spirit to posses you. Naturally, it work the other way around too, you don't want iron around in spiritual places when you are trying to achieve greater spiritual enlightenment as it will act as a drag to your growth. The stability/ attachment to your current frequency prevent you to acquire higher level ideas/inspirations or purification. Hope this help.
Well that is quite interesting. I come from an Irish family myself and Irish people are known for having high iron levels in their blood - so from what you are saying, that's a bit of a drag.
 
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