Although I am a Newbie, I thought it might be interesting to start a thread on science fiction and fantasy writers. If this is not the right place to post this thread or people feel it belongs under an already existing thread, then please feel free to say so. I am aware that Laura has already started a thread on romantic fiction and I thought this thread might develop people's interest in other genres of fiction and the ideas that are contained in the authors' works.
I must fist confess that I am not an avid reader of science fiction or fantasy works myself (I haven't even read the 'Lord of the Rings'). However, I have dipped in to science fiction from time to time. I recall when first reading Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World' as a young man, the profound influence it had on me and how the book still does, as I see his fictional world becoming more real every day.
Why science fiction and fantasy though? Well I believe that science fiction and fantasy writers have had a tremendous influence upon shaping our modern world. Many of their works have been prophetic and sometimes inspirational. As a Star Trek fan, I was touched when I learnt that the actor James Doohan who played the engineer in the original series of Star Trek admitted that he used to receive a lot of letters from fans who stated that they were inspired to become engineers after watching him in Star Trek.
However, I would also like to draw out in this thread the background, beliefs and philosophies that led these writers to pen their works. More often than not they use their books to put over messages. Some of these messages may be quite esoteric in nature. Others are posting warnings, which sometimes paint a picture of a very dystopian future.
I recall that the C's once said that horror fiction writers such as Stephen King and Anne Rice were inspired by dark forces. However, what forces may have influenced science fiction and fantasy writers to write their books? The C's have also mentioned 'bleed through' as an influence upon creative people. This caught my attention when I thought of writers such as Philip K Dick and Gene Roddenberry. Dick, a self confessed gnostic, openy admitted that he thought he had received bleed through inspiration to write his works (possibly through the Black Knight Satellite). Roddenberry was supposedly inspired to create Star Trek from his channeling sessions in the 1950's with the Council of Nine (see attachment), which were run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich who had links to the CIA and the MK Ultra project (see 'The Stargate Conspiracy' by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince for a full account of the story). However, other writers were clearly members of esoteric groups who used their books to get messages out to the public to help promote the groups' views. An example of such a writer is L. Ron Hubbard who founded the Church of Scientology. He was at one time mixed up with Jack Parsons (a rocket scientist and founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) an avid occultist and follower of the English ceremonial magician Aleister Crowley and leader of a lodge of Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis.
Once you realise what lies in the background of these men and women, their works take on a very different flavour. I am happy to kick off this thread by discussing Lewis Carroll (Reverend Charles Lutwidge Dodgson 27 January 1832 – 14 January 1898) an English writer renowned for his children's fantasy fiction, notably Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass.
Carroll was a leading mathematician, a photographer, inventor and Anglican Church deacon. He was a first rate scholar and had a long term link with Christ Church College Oxford where he taught for many years and became the sub-librarian of the college library (which gave him access to a wealth of academic resources).
Carroll moved in various social circles including the Pre-Raphaelite art movement headed by John Ruskin and Dante Gabriel Rossetti. He was an early member of the Society for Psychical Research. What most biographies seem to leave out though, is that he was also involved with the Theosophy movement that brought him into contact with the likes of Annie Bessant, Madam Helena Blavatsky (the author of 'The Secret Doctrine') and Edward George Bulwer-Lytton (the author of 'The Coming Race' that introduced the concept of Vril energy that would later inspire the Nazis). Indeed, some think Carroll was in fact a secret rosicrucian.
With this in mind, when you read his works, you quickly become aware that he is trying to convey an awful lot more than a children's fantasy tale. I would refer people to a podcast titled 'Alice X in Cern Mystery School Wonderland' by the Dark Journalist that I have posted on the Atlantis thread (unfortunately the file seems to be too big for this thread) because it will give those interested in pursuing these esoteric links more detailed infomation about Carroll's sources and influences. The podcast is a veritable treasure trove of information and may explain the cryptic comment the C's once made to Laura:
“A: You are dancing on the 3rd density ballroom floor. "Alice likes to go through the looking glass" at the Crystal Palace. Atlantean reincarnation surge brings on the urge to have a repeat performance.”
It must be remembered that Carroll was a brilliant mathmetician and many believe he encoded hidden mathematical messages in his works for those capable of discerning them. If the Dark Journalist is correct in his analysis, then Carroll may be alluding, amongst other things, to 4th Density as represented by 'Wonderland'. It is curious in this respect to note that many who have worked at section 4 at Area 51 have referred to it as Wonderland. Even the use of the White Rabbit may be a reference back to the ancient motif of the 'Three Hares' found in ancient China, Persia, Egypt and medieval Europe that is a rosicrucian symbol.
Hence, it becomes readily apparent that Carroll's works are in fact laced with esoteric information that may have been an attempt by him at a deliberate disclosure of long held rosicrucian secret knowledge for those capable of understanding it. Although children to this day still love Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass and the books have been filmed and televised on numerous occasions, for those prepared to re-read these books in light of the above, these works may now take on a completely different meaning.
I must fist confess that I am not an avid reader of science fiction or fantasy works myself (I haven't even read the 'Lord of the Rings'). However, I have dipped in to science fiction from time to time. I recall when first reading Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World' as a young man, the profound influence it had on me and how the book still does, as I see his fictional world becoming more real every day.
Why science fiction and fantasy though? Well I believe that science fiction and fantasy writers have had a tremendous influence upon shaping our modern world. Many of their works have been prophetic and sometimes inspirational. As a Star Trek fan, I was touched when I learnt that the actor James Doohan who played the engineer in the original series of Star Trek admitted that he used to receive a lot of letters from fans who stated that they were inspired to become engineers after watching him in Star Trek.
However, I would also like to draw out in this thread the background, beliefs and philosophies that led these writers to pen their works. More often than not they use their books to put over messages. Some of these messages may be quite esoteric in nature. Others are posting warnings, which sometimes paint a picture of a very dystopian future.
I recall that the C's once said that horror fiction writers such as Stephen King and Anne Rice were inspired by dark forces. However, what forces may have influenced science fiction and fantasy writers to write their books? The C's have also mentioned 'bleed through' as an influence upon creative people. This caught my attention when I thought of writers such as Philip K Dick and Gene Roddenberry. Dick, a self confessed gnostic, openy admitted that he thought he had received bleed through inspiration to write his works (possibly through the Black Knight Satellite). Roddenberry was supposedly inspired to create Star Trek from his channeling sessions in the 1950's with the Council of Nine (see attachment), which were run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich who had links to the CIA and the MK Ultra project (see 'The Stargate Conspiracy' by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince for a full account of the story). However, other writers were clearly members of esoteric groups who used their books to get messages out to the public to help promote the groups' views. An example of such a writer is L. Ron Hubbard who founded the Church of Scientology. He was at one time mixed up with Jack Parsons (a rocket scientist and founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) an avid occultist and follower of the English ceremonial magician Aleister Crowley and leader of a lodge of Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis.
Once you realise what lies in the background of these men and women, their works take on a very different flavour. I am happy to kick off this thread by discussing Lewis Carroll (Reverend Charles Lutwidge Dodgson 27 January 1832 – 14 January 1898) an English writer renowned for his children's fantasy fiction, notably Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass.
Carroll was a leading mathematician, a photographer, inventor and Anglican Church deacon. He was a first rate scholar and had a long term link with Christ Church College Oxford where he taught for many years and became the sub-librarian of the college library (which gave him access to a wealth of academic resources).
Carroll moved in various social circles including the Pre-Raphaelite art movement headed by John Ruskin and Dante Gabriel Rossetti. He was an early member of the Society for Psychical Research. What most biographies seem to leave out though, is that he was also involved with the Theosophy movement that brought him into contact with the likes of Annie Bessant, Madam Helena Blavatsky (the author of 'The Secret Doctrine') and Edward George Bulwer-Lytton (the author of 'The Coming Race' that introduced the concept of Vril energy that would later inspire the Nazis). Indeed, some think Carroll was in fact a secret rosicrucian.
With this in mind, when you read his works, you quickly become aware that he is trying to convey an awful lot more than a children's fantasy tale. I would refer people to a podcast titled 'Alice X in Cern Mystery School Wonderland' by the Dark Journalist that I have posted on the Atlantis thread (unfortunately the file seems to be too big for this thread) because it will give those interested in pursuing these esoteric links more detailed infomation about Carroll's sources and influences. The podcast is a veritable treasure trove of information and may explain the cryptic comment the C's once made to Laura:
“A: You are dancing on the 3rd density ballroom floor. "Alice likes to go through the looking glass" at the Crystal Palace. Atlantean reincarnation surge brings on the urge to have a repeat performance.”
It must be remembered that Carroll was a brilliant mathmetician and many believe he encoded hidden mathematical messages in his works for those capable of discerning them. If the Dark Journalist is correct in his analysis, then Carroll may be alluding, amongst other things, to 4th Density as represented by 'Wonderland'. It is curious in this respect to note that many who have worked at section 4 at Area 51 have referred to it as Wonderland. Even the use of the White Rabbit may be a reference back to the ancient motif of the 'Three Hares' found in ancient China, Persia, Egypt and medieval Europe that is a rosicrucian symbol.
Hence, it becomes readily apparent that Carroll's works are in fact laced with esoteric information that may have been an attempt by him at a deliberate disclosure of long held rosicrucian secret knowledge for those capable of understanding it. Although children to this day still love Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass and the books have been filmed and televised on numerous occasions, for those prepared to re-read these books in light of the above, these works may now take on a completely different meaning.