Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

lilies

The Living Force
Hungary military emergency law effective as of May 25, 2022:

Big news in Hungarian media this week was our government gave itself emergency powers again. What will all be about, we can expect to be revealed in a Surprise Gift Box opening on Wednesday (today).
Even if their 'Plandemic Con-19 Special Powers Ponzi Scheme For Personal Enrichment' has ended, now they again have instant rule by decree emergency powers, because of the Ukraine war.

This means lots of peacetime-laws are about to change: Price regulation of fuel and food, military & law enforcement readiness (weapons storage laws), nuclear energy security, anti-terrorism, border security, food security, airspace use, restarting the economy.. on the pretext of keeping the economy and families safe.
Blood donations, medical research on people, Big Pharma products, guards in schools, getting various degrees in the medical profession. Several laws about historical monuments were updated.

Now they can decree another batch of extra advantages to their government-insider businesses, which adapt to profit-making from Plandemic to War with surprising finesse. Only for those in their special Club, of course.

Still our government is Russia-friendly. So we can't really complain.
 
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ziutek

Jedi Master
Hungary military emergency law effective as of May 25, 2022:

Big news in Hungarian media this week was our government gave itself emergency powers again. What will all be about, we can expect to be revealed in a Surprise Gift Box opening on Wednesday (today).
Even if their 'Plandemic Con-19 Special Powers Ponzi Scheme For Personal Enrichment' has ended, now they again have instant rule by decree emergency powers, because of the Ukraine war.

This means lots of peacetime-laws are about to change: Price regulation of fuel and food, military & law enforcement readiness (weapons storage laws), nuclear energy security, anti-terrorism, border security, food security, airspace use, restarting the economy.. on the pretext of keeping the economy and families safe.
Blood donations, medical research on people, Big Pharma products, guards in schools, getting various degrees in the medical profession. Several laws about historical monuments were updated.

Now they can decree another batch of extra advantages to their government-insider businesses, which adapt to profit-making from Plandemic and War with surprising finesse. Only for those in their special Club, of course.

Still our government is Russia-friendly. So we can't really complain.
Maybe your services and government fear something about Hungary being friendly to Russia?
Maybe this move of declaring an emergency is to protect Hungarians from something?
I am just speculating.
 

Laurentien2

The Living Force
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IS US CONSPIRING TO SINK RUSSIAN BLACK SEA FLEET SHIPS?
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Is US Conspiring To Sink Russian Black Sea Fleet Ships?
Russian warships are seen during a rehearsal for the Navy Day parade in Sevastopol, Crimea, July 24, 2015.

“The US is preparing a plan to destroy the [Russian] Black Sea Fleet.”

Written by Drago Bosnic, independent geopolitical and military analyst

On 20 May, in an exclusive for Reuters, the US government announced it would be providing advanced anti-ship and land-attack missiles to the Kiev regime, in yet another major escalatory move aiming to prolong the conflict and make it as bloody as possible for both sides. While some might dismiss such statements as simply being a part of the information, or more precisely, disinformation war, they should be taken extremely seriously, as it certainly wouldn’t be the first time the political West, with the US at its helm, delivered advanced weapons to the Kiev regime. To make matters worse, an adviser employed by the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, Anton Gerashchenko, stated that the US will be “sinking Russian ships in the Black Sea.” His exact (now deleted) tweet stated:

“The US is preparing a plan to destroy the [Russian] Black Sea Fleet. The effective work of the Ukrainians on [Russian] warships convinced [the US] to prepare a plan to unblock the [Ukrainian] ports. Deliveries of powerful anti-ship weapons are being discussed.”

The Ukrainian official was referring to the aforementioned Reuters report on the US plan to provide the regime with the old “Harpoon” anti-ship missiles, as well as the newer and more advanced NSM (Naval Strike Missile), which can be used both as an anti-ship or land-attack weapon. The “Harpoon” is a subsonic, all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defense, Space & Security (historically McDonnell Douglas) with a range of up to 220-250 km (depending on the source), costing around $1.5 million apiece. The NSM, also a subsonic missile, has a dual, anti-ship and land-attack capability. The missile’s exact range is classified, but it can go as far as 200 km or more, depending on the flight profile. It costs up to $2.2 million per unit.

Three State Department officials and two Congressional sources told Reuters that the White House was still working on the details for providing the Kiev regime with these advanced weapons. According to the sources, logistical issues and “the possibility the US would have to remove a launcher from one of its ships to send to Ukraine are current obstacles to completing the transfer”. Rather disturbingly, when responding to a question from Newsweek, the State Department did not deny it was working on a plan to target the Russian Black Sea fleet. “As the conflict is changing, so too is our military assistance to deliver the critical capabilities Ukraine needs for today’s fight as Russia’s forces engage in a renewed offensive in eastern Ukraine,” a spokesperson said.

However, the US DoD (Department of Defense) did issue a denial of the controversial claims made by the Ukrainian Internal Ministry’s official. “I can tell you definitively that that’s not true,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters last Thursday. Still, the Pentagon’s denial refers only to the Ukrainian official’s claim the US was going to enable Ukraine to sink the Black Sea fleet and did not apply to the proposed anti-ship missiles transfer, which further adds to the confusion regarding this very serious issue.

It also remains unclear how Ukraine would be able to target Russian ships by itself. The US and NATO would either need to provide Ukraine with the necessary ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) capabilities or, worse yet, directly provide ISR information on the location and possible movement of Russian Black Sea fleet ships, which the Kremlin might see as an act of war. The US government, including US President Joe Biden, and the military continue to give controversial and ambiguous statements, oftentimes denying what was clearly stated by their colleagues, which greatly contributes to the atmosphere of distrust and exponentially increases the likelihood of an uncontrollable escalation.

Gerashchenko’s claims that the attack would help to open up Ukraine’s ports are both false and misplaced, as the Kiev regime was the party which released hundreds of sea mines, many of which drifted apart as far as the Bosphorus, over 600 km to the south of Odessa. Russia currently controls the Black Sea and maintains a blockade. However, the blockade is not aimed against civilian shipping, but possible major NATO arms deliveries to the Kiev regime forces. The United Nations has called for an easing of restrictions in the Black Sea to allow food exports from Ukraine to help alleviate global food shortages.

Russia offered a diplomatic solution. Last Thursday, the Russian government proposed lifting the blockage in exchange for the removal of sanctions. The Russian Foreign Ministry stated the problem clearly goes beyond the military blockade and includes Western sanctions which are restricting fertilizer exports. “You have to not only appeal to the Russian Federation but also look deeply at the whole complex of reasons that caused the current food crisis. [Sanctions] interfere with normal free trade, encompassing food products including wheat, fertilizers and others,” Deputy Foreign Minister Andrey Rudenko said.
 

aragorn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
In the above interview, Ritter makes quite a number of pretty interesting points about the situation that I have not heard anyone explaining and proposing in that way before. If I can, I‘ll try to summarize it in the coming days, for discussion. In the meantime, I would encourage everyone to listen to the above interview and I would love to hear what you think about it. On a number of points he could be right on the money, especially on how Putin might plan his next moves.
I watched this this morning and I think that Ritter's analysis makes for the most part a lot of sense. However, regarding the 40B$ he apparently isn't considering it meaningful that large chunks of that money is earmarked for various projects, not just cutting edge weaponry. This is all explained by Larry Johnson HERE. Quote:
I think Scott Ritter jumped the gun in calling the $40 billion dollar Ukrainian aid bill a “game changer.” Once you take time to parse the details you quickly realize the media is misleading the American public on the reality of the $40 billion dollars ostensibly designated to buy weapons and equip Ukraine with a cornucopia of lethality. Mark Cancian at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (aka CSIS) provides an excellent breakdown of what was actually appropriated. Here is a quick summary:

$19 billion for immediate military support to Ukraine
$3.9 billion to sustain U.S. forces deployed to Europe
$16 billion for economic support to Ukraine and global humanitarian relief
$2 billion for long-term support to NATO allies and DOD modernization programs

Right off the bat you can see that Ukraine is not getting $40 billion dollars worth of military goodies to whack Russians. They are not even getting $19 billion. The $19 billion is carved up into smaller packages:

$6 billion for training, equipment, weapons, logistic support, supplies and services, salaries and stipends and intelligence support to the military and national security forces of Ukraine (and the specifics of the expenditures remain to be determined).
$9 billion to replenish U.S. weapons stocks already sent to Ukraine.
$4 billion for the Foreign Military Financing Program (this allows a foreign country like Ukraine to buy brand new weapon systems).
Still, $19B sounds like a lot to me! Maybe those will go to the oligarchs and the crazy Nazis, who knows. But at the very least this tells me that the Evil Empire is not quitting their pet project anytime soon. On the contrary, they are investing more, which means that they could be crazy enought to escalate until there's no going back anymore, i.e. WW3 (see below).

An important point Ritter brings up is that it makes, according to him, no sense that Putin/Russia would stop all military activities once they've secured the Donbass. If they stop, the Evil Empire will just keep adding more crazies with weapons, more big guns in western Ukraine, and thus the western part will become even more Nazified/NATOfied (and then NATO would still be at Russias border). Ritter suggests that Russia might either 1) slow things down and wait until the economic situation in the West will become so bad that they just can't go on 2) declare real war with Ukraine, Poland and even Finland and Sweden if necessary.

And now with a couple of Polish battalions having crossed over to Ukraine, Ritter says it maybe a 'gift' to allow Russia to take more serious action. I really hope it doesn't come to that, that would basically mean WW3.
 

lilies

The Living Force
More than a decade ago large number of poor Romanians traveled to England on buses to get employment and a better quality life.
First time at the Artesian well yesterday I heard an Englishman's voice talking to his woman as they were filling several 1,5 liter plastic bottles and took it all home on two cheap bicycles.
Germans are coming and talking as well. Increasingly frequent Western EU language speaking voices in grocery shops I can hear chatting away. Is it holiday season already? :)
Years ago it was rumored that German pensioners were living en-masse in Western Hungary buying cheap houses and renovating them to high standard as poor Hungarian labor force is available aplenty. These Western EU pensioners receive a nice sum in euros each month, which they could spend in cheap Hungary on quality food & services and live very well here like princes.
 
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lilies

The Living Force
I watched this this morning and I think that Ritter's analysis makes for the most part a lot of sense. However, regarding the 40B$ he apparently isn't considering it meaningful that large chunks of that money is earmarked for various projects, not just cutting edge weaponry. This is all explained by Larry Johnson HERE.
Since Ukraine just received 40 billion dollars, I was curious, how much the USA gave to Israel, as everybody was talking about it pre-Plandemic: (source)
In 2020, the US gave $3.8bn (£2.7bn) in aid to Israel - part of a long-term, yearly commitment made under the Obama administration. Almost all of this aid was for military assistance.
This support came as part of an agreement signed by former president Barack Obama in 2016 for an overall package of $38bn (26.8bn) in military aid over the decade 2017-2028.

Maybe your services and government fear something about Hungary being friendly to Russia?
Maybe this move of declaring an emergency is to protect Hungarians from something?
I am just speculating.
George Soros - AKA Soros György, a Hungarian himself (Soros = "next one in line") - is a big enemy of Hungary, because his glorious University "non-profits" were booted out of the country couple years back, pre-Plandemic. Then there is the EU giving Hungary lots of billions demanding tough Climate Politics unleashed on the heads of The People.
There is the War-Crazy Russia-hater opposition, who just lost the election and they were loudly shouting that the Hungarian families should proudly embrace 10x higher EU gas / oil / electricity prices, because Hungary must support the War Effort against the evil Russkies.

Then there is the swastika-loving Nazi Party "Jobbik" ['Righter' = direct English translation] (see pic on above link) in Hungary.
These dudes - for the umpteenth time - started a new Gipsy-hating campaign recently. Since our proud Prez. Orban is a Gipsy - and since prison-term sentenced Sarkozy is a gipsy as well and these folks really like to steal and live like bandits, most in Hungary live up to this historic stereotype. Whether they are presidents or are perching in other positions.. and since these folks have 30% evil alien DNA and have a distinct "fragrance" to prove it, (BTW, dogs sense and bite them habitually), I have a specific stance toward them.
 
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Vulcan59

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Dialogue With an Impudent Ukrainian Prisoner From “Azovstal”

...It is noteworthy that some who capitulated, apparently, still do not fully understand what happened to them, and seriously believe that they “evacuated”.

Attempts to be impudent are explained by the fact that those who came out of the basements of the plant, apparently, seriously believe that they are not in captivity, and that they will now be handed over to the Ukrainian side. One of those who came out, answering the question why he needed as many as two backpacks of personal belongings, seriously said: “So I’m going home”. It was gently hinted to him that he would be able to go home, for example, in 10-15 years.
 

Sybill

Jedi
Then there is the swastika-loving Nazi Party "Jobbik" ['Righter' = direct English translation] (see pic on above link) in Hungary.
These dudes - for the umpteenth time - started a new Gipsy-hating campaign recently. Since our proud Prez. Orban is a Gipsy - and since prison-term sentenced Sarkozy is a gipsy as well and these folks really like to steal and live like bandits, most in Hungary live up to this historic stereotype. Whether they are presidents or are perching in other positions.. and since these folks have 30% evil alien DNA and have a distinct "fragrance" to prove it, (BTW, dogs sense and bite them habitually), I have a specific stance toward them.

I hear you Lilies. As a Brungarian ( British Hungarian) I know how you feel about the gypsy population in Hungary. However, if you look at the bigger picture, you surely must see, nationalistic feelings are artificially generated to keep us, humans, divided. We and them. What difference does it make if Orban has gypsy genes or not? Every politician is a bandit. Then all of them are gypsies.
 

ziutek

Jedi Master
I hear you Lilies. As a Brungarian ( British Hungarian) I know how you feel about the gypsy population in Hungary. However, if you look at the bigger picture, you surely must see, nationalistic feelings are artificially generated to keep us, humans, divided. We and them. What difference does it make if Orban has gypsy genes or not? Every politician is a bandit. Then all of them are gypsies.
What is the difference between generalizing that "every politician is a bandit" and "every gypsy is a thief"?
Let's not go down this road. :cool2:
 

BHelmet

The Living Force
What is the difference between generalizing that "every politician is a bandit" and "every gypsy is a thief"?
Let's not go down this road. :cool2:
I think Sybill was trying to soften things up by widening the lens to include a group that includes all nationalities.

The way I like to rehumanize this sort of thing is by saying there is a little bit of gypsy in all of us. Or there is a little dishonest politician in all of us.

A version of “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”
 

ziutek

Jedi Master
I think Sybill was trying to soften things up by widening the lens to include a group that includes all nationalities.

The way I like to rehumanize this sort of thing is by saying there is a little bit of gypsy in all of us. Or there is a little dishonest politician in all of us.

A version of “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”
Sybill.
If I misunderstood then I apologize.
Translation is sometimes unfortunate.:-D
 

youlik

Dagobah Resident
They continue to pump Ukraine with serious weapons, though in frivolous quantities. Such deliveries cannot fundamentally change anything. They can only increase the number of victims.

The Czech Republic handed over a squadron of Mi-25 attack helicopters to Ukraine

At least 7 more combat helicopters have appeared in service with the Ukrainian Air Force. As it became known, the Czech Republic made the decision to transfer its Mi-25 combat rotorcraft (an export version of the Mi-24 helicopter – ed.) to the Ukrainian military. At the same time, along with the supply of the helicopters themselves, the Ukrainian military was also transferred weapons to these combat vehicles.

According to preliminary data, the helicopters are already on the territory of Ukraine. Moreover, the latter were airlifted at night and, according to some data, are located in the western part of Ukraine. According to a number of sources, the helicopters are in technically sound condition and a few days before the transfer to Ukraine, these rotorcraft were serviced and prepared for combat use.

To date, Ukraine has about three dozen Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters in service. However, the latter are used to strike, as they say, blindly – helicopters launch missiles from a low altitude, thereby not being substituted for air defense, which, by the way, is ineffective.

The Russian side has not yet officially responded to the transfer of Czech combat helicopters to the Ukrainian Air Force.
Чехия передала Украине эскадрилью ударных вертолётов Ми-25

Unknown European countries handed over Su-25 attack aircraft to Ukraine
NATO countries have provided Ukraine with their combat aircraft for the first time. We are talking, as we managed to find out, about the Soviet Su-25 attack aircraft. However, it is very noteworthy that up to 12 combat aircraft of this type could be brought to Ukraine in total. Moreover, it is quite important that the transfer of combat aircraft was carried out on the ground in order to hide the places of subsequent deployment of these attack aircraft.

According to information provided by the Foreign Policy news agency, unknown NATO countries have transferred their Su-25 attack aircraft to Ukraine. The planes were disassembled for subsequent transportation to the territory of Ukraine and are already at the Ukrainian military facility. The exact number of Su-25 attack aircraft transferred to Ukraine is not disclosed, however, a number of sources report that some of the aircraft were transferred by Bulgaria, and another part was sent by Slovakia.

To date, this is the first time that NATO has transferred its combat aircraft to Ukraine. Moreover, there is a fairly high risk that MiG-29 fighters may also be delivered to the territory of Ukraine in the future, since similar negotiations between European countries and the United States have previously been held.
Неизвестные европейские страны передали Украине штурмовики Су-25

A couple of days ago there was a video showing things taken from the surrendering prisoners in Azovstal. Unfortunately, I can't find it now, but a large number of different kinds of tubes and devices for drug use have attracted attention there. These guys seemed to go with the confidence that everything would be beautiful next, including with drugs. Everyone will be given herbs, crystals and other "dope" to anyone who wants anything.

Продолжают накачивать Украину серьезным вооружением, правда в несерьезных количествах. Такие поставки ничего принципиально изменить не могут. Могут только увеличить количество жертв.
Пару дней назад было видео, где показаны вещи отобранные у сдающихся в плен в Азовстали. Сейчас уже не могу его найти к сожалению, но там обратило на себя внимание большое количество разного рода трубочек и приспособлений для употребления наркотиков. Эти ребята, похоже, шли с уверенностью, что дальше будет все красиво, в том числе и с наркотиками. Всем выдадут травы, кристаллов и прочей "дури" кому чего захочется.
 

Corvus

Dagobah Resident
The army command probably lied to them and said that they will be probably sent home and there will be prisoner exchange, because if they told them the truth they would stay and die and in that way paint the command in bad light because they did nothing to save them because there was weeks long media campain to help them and public pressure and in this way they ll save face like they negotiated prisoner swap and saved them while they did nothing.
 

Corvus

Dagobah Resident
More than a decade ago large number of poor Romanians traveled to England on buses to get employment and a better quality life.
First time at the Artesian well yesterday I heard an Englishman's voice talking to his woman as they were filling several 1,5 liter plastic bottles and took it all home on two cheap bicycles.
Germans are coming and talking as well. Increasingly frequent Western EU language speaking voices in grocery shops I can hear chatting away. Is it holiday season already? :)
Years ago it was rumored that German pensioners were living en-masse in Western Hungary buying cheap houses and renovating them to high standard as poor Hungarian labor force is available aplenty. These Western EU pensioners receive a nice sum in euros each month, which they could spend in cheap Hungary on quality food & services and live very well here like princes.
The same thing in neighbouring Croatia on Adriatic coast. I was there for one day with my girlfriend in April and all the yachts and turists were mostly German. Most of people here can not afford few days in summer on the coast in our country and when we were going on breakfast in the morning woman working there asked us what number was our room because people come from outside to eat, but she did not asked those Germans who were coming to eat. So you see you feel like stranger in your own country, bootlicking of turists because of money, and the prices are skyhigh out of season also so they can make profits from turists, and the state it seems is ok because the higher the prices higher profit from tax. Many pensioners that were born here and worked abroad come here and do the same because everything is cheaper and they have foreign pensions and live like kings while people here after 40 years of hard work and small pensions look through trash bins because they do not have enough to survive.
 
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