OneSoul
Padawan Learner
Although this topic touches on many others on the forum pages, I didn't see the question asked in this way, so I thought this might be the place. A main theme would be this:
"The beginningless Soul assumes different forms in different births for the gaining of experience," from Swami Nikhilananda's introduction to the Gita. This would be echoed here, "In actuality, there are simply aspects of individual souls taking different guises in conflict with themselves ... These portions are multidimensional extensions or reincarnations of the same collective of energies that you are a part of as an individual" ( from Bringers of the Dawn ) and no doubt in countless others.
If these were just postulates from some texts out of the mainstream, so be it, but I don't think so. This conception has been taught in human experience and belief structures for ages. Where we are now does it offer any insight or is it too remote?
There are lots of offshoots from here. Certain of Origen's writings were censured for many years, then just dropped into oblivion, because he taught about reincarnation, and further, an apokatastasis, the final reconciliation of all with the One or the Divinity-Source. Someone even wrote that his writing explained the soul's journey as returning to God through "lessons learned" in many lifetimes. For this he was anathema to the church, although debate on his writings continued into the 6 Cent. at least. "If anyone asserts the fabulous preexistence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema," from the Second Council of Constantinople, 553, even more a political statement than a doctrinal one, when you consider the society of that time. St. Gregory of Nyssa taught the same doctrine, along with others. Neo-Platonic philosophy, especially Plotinian, with its series of emanations was the background that strongly informed Augustine who sanitized it for use by the church. These ideas also appear in the Ra material as distortions, the first distortion, etc., with a careful development from origin to awareness and consciousness and to physical existence.
There's also an earlier or "original" meaning of the word translated as resurrection as reincarnation in Jewish belief ( the Sadducees rejected this ) and this meaning was buried by the Christian church. This has also been explored by Yonassan Gershom, that Jews, among others, have been reincarnating in the years since WWII, along with a larger question of karma surrounding this period.
Essential to the Christian faith is the belief that Jesus was risen / rose from the dead. Paul said it in one sentence: "And if Christ is not risen again, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith is also in vain" ( 1 Corinthians 15:14 ). This gets complicated real fast when you encounter the idea of a type of "holographic insert" into the timeline, therefore into the experience, of the crucifixion, for the purpose of control ( Bringers of the Dawn ).
But to point back to the top is "the Father and I are One" ( John 10:30 ), a favorite passage for meditation. This connects with the Eastern Christian writings of the esoteric tradition, that have been embraced so properly and warmly here, and are treated elsewhere.
Diaries, memes, conjectures? :)
"The beginningless Soul assumes different forms in different births for the gaining of experience," from Swami Nikhilananda's introduction to the Gita. This would be echoed here, "In actuality, there are simply aspects of individual souls taking different guises in conflict with themselves ... These portions are multidimensional extensions or reincarnations of the same collective of energies that you are a part of as an individual" ( from Bringers of the Dawn ) and no doubt in countless others.
If these were just postulates from some texts out of the mainstream, so be it, but I don't think so. This conception has been taught in human experience and belief structures for ages. Where we are now does it offer any insight or is it too remote?
There are lots of offshoots from here. Certain of Origen's writings were censured for many years, then just dropped into oblivion, because he taught about reincarnation, and further, an apokatastasis, the final reconciliation of all with the One or the Divinity-Source. Someone even wrote that his writing explained the soul's journey as returning to God through "lessons learned" in many lifetimes. For this he was anathema to the church, although debate on his writings continued into the 6 Cent. at least. "If anyone asserts the fabulous preexistence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema," from the Second Council of Constantinople, 553, even more a political statement than a doctrinal one, when you consider the society of that time. St. Gregory of Nyssa taught the same doctrine, along with others. Neo-Platonic philosophy, especially Plotinian, with its series of emanations was the background that strongly informed Augustine who sanitized it for use by the church. These ideas also appear in the Ra material as distortions, the first distortion, etc., with a careful development from origin to awareness and consciousness and to physical existence.
There's also an earlier or "original" meaning of the word translated as resurrection as reincarnation in Jewish belief ( the Sadducees rejected this ) and this meaning was buried by the Christian church. This has also been explored by Yonassan Gershom, that Jews, among others, have been reincarnating in the years since WWII, along with a larger question of karma surrounding this period.
Essential to the Christian faith is the belief that Jesus was risen / rose from the dead. Paul said it in one sentence: "And if Christ is not risen again, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith is also in vain" ( 1 Corinthians 15:14 ). This gets complicated real fast when you encounter the idea of a type of "holographic insert" into the timeline, therefore into the experience, of the crucifixion, for the purpose of control ( Bringers of the Dawn ).
But to point back to the top is "the Father and I are One" ( John 10:30 ), a favorite passage for meditation. This connects with the Eastern Christian writings of the esoteric tradition, that have been embraced so properly and warmly here, and are treated elsewhere.
Diaries, memes, conjectures? :)