New vaccination requirements in Russia.

Mari

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I haven’t jet watch the video (3h long so I’m planing to split it, starting tomorrow 😂) but I‘m thinking in the same lines:

Putin is here addressing the russian people and Sputnik vaccine and
because he knows that Sputnik is really "safe"?

I also have to note that I haven't heard any horror stories from the Sputnik vaccine (and other russian vaccines). I mean, nothing.

exactly; he probably genuinely believes that the Sputnik vaccine is safe and exactly as you say; I also haven’t heard any side effects of the Sputnik and I‘m pretty sure that the West would jump to ANY opportunity to make Russia look bad in any way - but in this case, nothing is reported anywhere.
They are keep fighting between themselves but noone touches Sputnik.
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aimarok

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There are some anecdotal reports on after-vaccination deaths with Sputnik in Russian social networks. Of course it's impossible to discern fake reports from real ones. According to those stories deaths usually happen due to issues not related to Covid (like pneumonia) within few weeks after vaccination. Keeping in mind recent information about spike protein being a toxin itself some of those stories might indeed hold true. Medical authorities do not connect such deaths to vaccination, so there is no statistics at all. Also when authorities declare zero post vaccination complications (I haven't heart of any yet, please correct me if I'm wrong) people instinctively start to feel something fishy. And it makes death stories just more genuine to conspiracy thinking average Ivan.

Looking at the vaccination circus show happening now and starring Russian politicians including Putin I can only conclude that there is some kind of struggle going on between power groups and we can only speculate about their motives. Putin indeed might put too much trust onto "experts" like creator of Sputnik (who is ready to vaccinate children and pregnant women, and it's completely sick!), or he still might be playing a long game being at intelligence officer (there are no former ones). I guess we can only do what we usually do: wait and see.
 

Joe

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Take a listen to the first 18 Minutes or so (starting at 04:45) in the following video. Putin is asked about a number of Corona related issues and also tells stuff about the topic from on his own accord:

Short version:

Putin slams speculations on global pandemic conspiracy as nonsense​

Speaking about anti-vaxxers, the president noted that there are quite a lot of such people but vaccination is a reasonable choice. Also, he called for listening to the views of specialists

MOSCOW, June 30. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that any speculation about a conspiracy between world leaders over the coronavirus pandemic is absolute nonsense.

"I have heard lots of things: that there is nothing, that no epidemic exists. Sometimes I hear what people, adult, educated people on the face of it, say. I don’t know why they say that <…> it is a conspiracy of the leaders of all countries. Do they understand what is going on in the world, how many contradictions the present-day world is living with? They just up and conspired - it is absolute nonsense," he said during his annual question-and-answer session.

Speaking about anti-vaxxers, the president noted that there are quite a lot of such people. "There have always been and there always are people who think that any vaccination is unnecessary.
And there are a lot of such people. Vaccine ‘refuseniks’. There are quite a lot of them both in our country and abroad. What is happening to them? What are the specialists saying? When large-scale vaccination is in full swing against other infections, the situation seems to be normal, and people tend to think there is no necessity to get vaccinated. What for? Next to nobody falls ill. Once the scale is reduced to a certain threshold, bang! and outbreaks spring as if from nowhere. And then everybody is rushing to get vaccinated," Putin noted.

He stressed that vaccination is a reasonable choice and warned people against listening to those, who know nothing about the matter and only spread rumors, and called for listening to the views of specialists.

Bottom line for me is that the above is true for most people on this planet. It's not true for me and a very small minority, however. Wheat and chaff. Free will.
 
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SOTTREADER

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I also have to note that I haven't heard any horror stories from the Sputnik vaccine (and other russian vaccines). I mean, nothing.

Occasionally some adverse effects pertaining to Sputnik break into the groups I follow. Not as much as the other vaccines but occasionally Sputnik breaks through. I expect we don't hear much about it due to language barrier.

Example - Balls Palsy caused by Sputnik


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Truth&Acceptance

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One of the things that I got from recent reading of HS is that in (serious) matters concerning Consortium and real PTB that rule this planet (in both 3D and 4D) there is no 'stepping out of the line', no matter which country/government you apparently belong to and/or lead.
I think that unfortunately Putin is no exception to that, even if he had done some remarkable deeds in opposing unilateral centralized world order - which IMO was not so much of concern to Consortium. This plandemic business and vaxx agenda, as a 'final step toward completion of population programming' (according to Cs; at least that's how I understood it) seemed to have everything to do with Consortium/PTB, so no 'big deviation', especially not as big as Russian Bear (which, afterall, the Cs had said is part of the Beast of Apocalypse) would be allowed, IMO.

MOSCOW, June 30. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that any speculation about a conspiracy between world leaders over the coronavirus pandemic is absolute nonsense.

"I have heard lots of things: that there is nothing, that no epidemic exists. Sometimes I hear what people, adult, educated people on the face of it, say. I don’t know why they say that <…> it is a conspiracy of the leaders of all countries. Do they understand what is going on in the world, how many contradictions the present-day world is living with? They just up and conspired - it is absolute nonsense," he said during his annual question-and-answer session.

I find that he explicitly addressed this issue of "world leaders conspiracy" quite odd, and have a strange feeling that it's basically his confirmation of it. :-/
Of course, it's just my strange 'hunch', but seeing how this last more than year every country had done pretty much the same things and at the same/similar time (with small variations) regarding the actions taken because and/or for the global plandemic theater, it seems to me that 'all of them' have been put in line like little children in kindergarten.
But true, that's not really a conspiracy of world leaders in action, though. :whistle:
 

lostinself

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Regarding relative safety of "alternative" vaxxes like Sputnik and Sinopharm, one thing bothers me. Among EUROMOMO mortality graphs, there's one for Hungary. After picking age range of 15-44 YO, it shows a significant bump in the deaths z-score, much higher than the level described as significant increase (red dashed line).
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This happens in weeks 12 and 13 of 2021, so it's March - the middle of vaccination roll-out in Hungary. There's no bump of similar magnitude for this age range in any other country included in EUROMOMO data (one can see a smaller bump in Israel but it could be explained as related to their recent actions against Palestinians when a number of young Isrealis lost their lives). AFAIK Hungary is the only country on the list that may have jabbed a significant number of people with vaccines other than the big four - namely Sputnik and Sinopharm. Although the absolute number of excessive deaths in this age range probably isn't very high, it is significant in relative terms.

There's always the question of validity (truthfulness) of this data, but still, it might be a good idea to investigate this before considering getting injected with Sputnik. FWIW.
 

bjorn

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One of the things that I got from recent reading of HS is that in (serious) matters concerning Consortium and real PTB that rule this planet (in both 3D and 4D) there is no 'stepping out of the line', no matter which country/government you apparently belong to and/or lead.

I think he stepped out of line and took a bit of a gamble when he intervened in Syria. But he is not willing to gamble here. (for now) It is what it is. Perhaps it's for the best. In such a scenario it's best to play along for the time being and wait for your opponents to make a mistake.

Putin recently also spoke greatly about Biden. You guys think he meant it or that he was just being diplomatic. Putin knows how to lie if he thinks it's in the best interest of Russia. He has to since he is carefully being watched by powers outside of his control. OSIT.
 

bjorn

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How many World leaders got killed already for opposing the Covid agenda? I think Putin got the memo. If they want, they can also kill him. Although then they probably will have to live with the consequences in which the upcoming Earth Changes will be even more intense. I don't know Putin is aware of this. The human cosmic connection. I have no idea. But if he is. Then he must find a perfect balance in which he can do as much good as possible without agitating the PTB too much.

The PTB are playing the same game and must also keep some balance. They can't simply kill everyone. Especially those who carry the hero archetype and are fulfilling their destiny. Unless they want to ''provoke the universe''. Although they probably already have taken it too far. OSIT.
 
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I think he stepped out of line and took a bit of a gamble when he intervened in Syria. But he is not willing to gamble here. (for now) It is what it is. Perhaps it's for the best. In such a scenario it's best to play along and wait for your opponents to make a mistake.

Putin recently also spoke greatly about Biden. You guys think he meant it or that he was just being diplomatic. Putin knows how to lie if he thinks it's in the best interest of Russia. He has to.
Oh really ? With what exactly did he gamble ? Russia gets quite a bit of money by selling weapons around the world as well as oil and gas, Syrian regime is just one more customer, look at the weapons contracts between Syria and Russia. Major military companies in Russia are owned by the state, so it is state business, controlled by the elites in the politics. Also, one more incentive for Russia to produce even weapons = money. They got their military/naval base there as well. Real question would be, would he/they - political shadow elites, gamble if they did not intervene ? USA made intervention in Syria in 2014, more than one year before Russia, it was limited to airstrikes against ISIS and weapons supply to YPG - SDF - Kurdish forces, also some of the airstrikes were against Al Nusra- now -Hayat Tahrir Al Sham.

So the USA ruling regime was pretty clear that they do not have intention to send their own soldiers to invade Damascus. Later on Russia intervened. I am not sure what they were gambling with ?

Also, majority of the ISIS held territory in Syria, in terms of population, let's say more than 80 % were captured by the SDF - YPG units supported by the Americans. Russians initially focused their campaign with regime on the FSA - Al Nusra held territory, like besieging Aleppo and later conquering it as well as areas around Damascus and other areas. Also, they took a LOOOT of ISIS held desert.
 

bjorn

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Oh really ? With what exactly did he gamble ?

You really are missing the point. He stood up against the ''regime change'' policy of the Empire. He wasn't supposed to do that. I think it was a calculated move. Still, you never know the response 100% until after you did it.

Russia gets quite a bit of money by selling weapons around the world as well as oil and gas

Where is the crime?

Syrian regime is just one more customer

Putin has given countries beset by terrorism free shipment of military hardware, expertise, intelligence and even direct assistance by way of the Russian military to countries who ask for it. Did you know?

Also, the Syrian regime, really? Because the MSM told you so?

Also, majority of the ISIS held territory in Syria, in terms of population, let's say more than 80 % were captured by the SDF - YPG units supported by the Americans. Russians initially focused their campaign with regime on the FSA - Al Nusra held territory, like besieging Aleppo and later conquering it as well as areas around Damascus and other areas. Also, they took a LOOOT of ISIS held desert.

Islamic State and its offshoots stood at the gates of Damascus and were in control of 70% of Syria before Russia intervened. Without Russia, Syria would have been Lybia.

Anyhow, if you honestly wanna get informed about this conflict I can recommend you this topic.

Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

 

Alejo

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Putin recently also spoke greatly about Biden. You guys think he meant it or that he was just being diplomatic. Putin knows how to lie if he thinks it's in the best interest of Russia. He has to since he is carefully being watched by powers outside of his control. OSIT.
I think it's diplomacy, even if he completely despises Biden, it's not like he's going to be uncourteous or dismissive of his person or speak ill of him in public. It's not his job to create intrigue that could harm the image of Russia abroad and thus create further issues for his people, at other levels of diplomacy the disagreements are expressed more bluntly, but Putin, he knows how to behave in public.
 

PaleFace

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Sadly, the worst part of the Direct Line was Putin saying that the Western Tech Giants would not be shut down, China-style.

No one in the older generation seems to understand the cyber. This is literally the equivalent of older generals insisting on fighting with spears and swords when guns are already on the field. Putin is, sadly, a Boomer and his administration can't seem to figure out the internet thing. Which makes the whole idea that the Kremlin is waging cyber war on anyone seem ridiculous.

By the by, has anyone ever been on Russian twitter? It's a cesspool. You can't even say anything to the Navalnybots without getting a ban immediately. It's run out of Kiev by Ukrainians who are on the prowl for pro-Russian sentiment. And VK, whose censorship department is run by a millennial homo camped out in Finland, is little better. Meanwhile, Telegram's Durov who is sitting in London talking to MI6 has already started censoring dissident English-speaking channels on orders of the ADL.

The free speech situation online is simply untenable.

I pray for a nuclear showdown that resets everything because otherwise we are just slowly bleeding out and losing ground to the Zionist Occupation Government everywhere.

As for the vax thing, Putin reiterated that no one would be forced and that the governors did this thing on their own initiative, confirming our suspicions. But he didn't say that he'd be pushing back and telling them to back off. Our guys in Russia are going to be left feeling unsatisfied with his response.

All in all, it's not bad news, but its not good news either.
 

f1esk

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Oh really ? With what exactly did he gamble ? Russia gets quite a bit of money by selling weapons around the world as well as oil and gas, Syrian regime is just one more customer, look at the weapons contracts between Syria and Russia. Major military companies in Russia are owned by the state, so it is state business, controlled by the elites in the politics. Also, one more incentive for Russia to produce even weapons = money. They got their military/naval base there as well. Real question would be, would he/they - political shadow elites, gamble if they did not intervene ? USA made intervention in Syria in 2014, more than one year before Russia, it was limited to airstrikes against ISIS and weapons supply to YPG - SDF - Kurdish forces, also some of the airstrikes were against Al Nusra- now -Hayat Tahrir Al Sham.

So the USA ruling regime was pretty clear that they do not have intention to send their own soldiers to invade Damascus. Later on Russia intervened. I am not sure what they were gambling with ?

Also, majority of the ISIS held territory in Syria, in terms of population, let's say more than 80 % were captured by the SDF - YPG units supported by the Americans. Russians initially focused their campaign with regime on the FSA - Al Nusra held territory, like besieging Aleppo and later conquering it as well as areas around Damascus and other areas. Also, they took a LOOOT of ISIS held desert.
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ISIS irregular US army, did they bomb themselves?
The target of the entire operation in Syria for the United States was to steal oil from northern Iraq and Syria, and then sell it under the guise of shale oil to those European leaders who are ready to serve the interests of the United States. The Russian army gradually closed logistics and eliminated the terrorists. Either you have not been able to deal with this issue in 5 years, or on the wrong side.
 

Andrian

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Short version:



Bottom line for me is that the above is true for most people on this planet. It's not true for me and a very small minority, however. Wheat and chaff. Free will.
Totally agree, i have a great respect for Putin, for his contributions towards Russia and her people, towards her neighbors and the World, but now we've reached a crossroad where each one of us has to choose which way he wants to go. With that I'm trying to say that I don't know in what situation Putin finds himself in, how strong the fifth column's influence is in Russia etc. though if one would wanted to play the part of being wise as serpents and gentle as doves in order to be able to fly under the radar by not stirring too much unnecessary attention from the PTB thus waiting for the right time to do the right things he simply would have avoided such comments as Putin's during the interview. Even if he wasn't able to avoid answering to the journalist's question, he still could answer the question in a different manner if he wanted to, he is a smart man after all. As I wrote above, I agree with Joe here, there is free will and every one chooses his own road he wants to follow, there are no saviors out there, Putin, Trump or Jesus, there is no need for a savior since all there is are lessons.

So, even if Putin plays along with the PTB's plans, so what? The choice is his, for certainly his choices are not affecting or reflecting mine own or those of most of my brothers and sisters here, in this community, we will go on our way with or without Putin and alike.

Still, at this point nothing is clear yet, maybe he is playing 4D chess after all, the best approach at this point will be just to sit back, wait patiently and enjoy the show.
 

Niall

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This is where we 'part ways' with Putin. He has set sail aboard 'the Coronavirus Cruise'. I don't care if Sputnik V is just vitamins and minerals. It's the overall package that is evil - the mandatory factor, the barcodes, the institution of 'medical apartheid'. And it's not just that. He also said at the 'Direct Line' virtual townhall yesterday that the recent extreme weather is evidence of climate change and that 'we must radically overhaul the economy, fast', which plugs Russia into the 'Build Back Better' nonsense too.

Putin saying 'well, I'm against mandatory vaccinations, but the regions want to do it' is political weasel-speak. He is helping this happen, even if by just stepping aside to let it happen. We can debate whether or not he 'has to do this because of...' The fact is, Covid-1984 is happening in Russia too. When it came down to 'the final battle', Putin yielded.

[Remember, what we see and think about world events is one thing; what we do about it is another. If you have to navigate the 'new reality' where you live by accepting one or another of their vaccines, do it. Carefully, by taking counter-measures. This need not be 'the hill we die on'...]

And thus we must all come to terms with the fact that there is no power on Earth capable of 'defending common sense against pathocracy'. It is down to us, individuals the world over who See, to 'hold the line' and refuse (internally) to submit and kneel.
 
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