Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 Crashes in Ukraine

Source (Dutch only): Moskou lijdt liever waarheidsverlies dan gezichtsverlies

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Column - Stevo Akkerman
Moscow would rather lose the truth than lose face

6 March 2020

The tricky thing about lying, every liar knows, is that it's hard to stop halfway. Preferably one more lie rather than having to admit that you deceived everyone, and thus a complete edifice of bullshit is created. Look at how the Russian government, even now that the MH17 court case starts on Monday, maintains that it has nothing to do with the deaths of 298 people, including 196 Dutch.

The statement that Moscow had nothing to do with the BUK missile which was fired on July 17, 2014 in Eastern Ukraine, is the result of lies surrounding the annexation of the Crimea, six months before. There too Moscow was completely out of the picture, there were just 'green men' showing up on the Ukrainian peninsula, armed soldiers in uniforms without insignia, they only had accidentally hoisted the Russian flag and supervised the referendum in which the population chose to join Russia.

Of course, Moscow had nothing to do with the war that followed in Eastern Ukraine either. Russian soldiers couldn't possibly die there, and if they did, it had to be concealed. Timothy Snyder described in 'The road to unfree-dom' how that went, for instance on the basis of the fate of Anton Toemanov, a soldier in a Russian infantry brigade. "On 13 August the men were in Snizhne, where Russian soldiers had shot Flight MH17. Their ammunition dump was set on fire by Ukrainian artillery shelling, killing 120 people.

"Anton Toemanov's family received a report: his place of death was described as 'location of unit', the time of death as 'time of performance of military service', the cause of death as 'blood loss after loss of both legs'. His mother found out more because his comrades took the risk of telling her everything. It tormented her that her son had died in a war that officially did not take place. "If they sent our soldiers there, let them admit it too."

Admit it? Then Moscow might as well admit that the Crimea was taken by force of arms and that indeed, as Snyder writes, it was Russian soldiers who shot the MH17 out of the sky. No way. In a detailed reconstruction yesterday, De Volkskrant described how Russia has done everything in recent years to sabotage the investigation into the circumstances of that drama. With spying techniques and actions to frustrate the international investigation from the inside.

Perhaps by now the Russian authorities have realized that it would have been better to say at the time that the MH17 was shot down under their responsibility, and that the person who gave the order to fire thought it was a military plane. But the Kremlin chooses to maintain the facade: we weren't fighting a war in eastern Ukraine, we weren't there and so there was no Russian BUK missile.

Moscow would rather lose truth than face. But will have both.


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Хочется спросить- сколько ты стоишь, Stevo?

Генсек НАТО выступил с заявлением по «Боингу» MH17
06.03.2020 - 22:49

И этот суперфункционер туда же... Куча красивых слов, прикрывающих, как фиговый листок, кучу отвратительной лжи.


Translation
I want to ask - how much are you worth, Stevo?

NATO Secretary General issued a statement on Boeing MH17
06.03.20-22: 49
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg calls on all countries of the world to help bring to justice those responsible for the MH17 Malaysia Airlines crash that occurred over the Donbas in the summer of 2014. This is reported by the press service of the North Atlantic Alliance.

So, the Secretary General welcomed the beginning of the trial in the Netherlands of the case of the downed plane. He stated that he was fully confident in the independence and professionalism of the Dutch legal system.

"It is still important to establish the truth, responsibility and justice in connection with the crash of flight MH17 in accordance with UN security Council resolution 2166. All countries must cooperate as much as possible to achieve these efforts, " Stoltenberg said.

We will remind, earlier it was announced that the trial of the Boeing flight mh17 shot down in 2014 over the Donbass will last 25 weeks. It was emphasized that the hearing will begin on March 9 in a specially protected court complex at Schiphol airport.

It was noted that the hearings will take place in several stages. The first two series will be held on March 9 — 13, and March 23 — 27, respectively. The last series of hearings is tentatively scheduled for February 1, and will end on March 26, 2021.
Генсек НАТО выступил с заявлением по «Боингу» MH17

And this super-function is there too... A bunch of beautiful words that cover up a bunch of disgusting lies like a Fig leaf.
 
It is still important to establish the truth, responsibility and justice in connection with the crash of flight MH17 in accordance with UN security Council resolution 2166. All countries must cooperate as much as possible to achieve these efforts, " Stoltenberg said.

Stoltenberg and NATO always abide by UN SECURITY COUNCIL.... Only when it suits.
 
Thanks angelburst29, youlik and Tuatha de Danaan for your contributions. :cool2:

Not only NATO, the EU has made a statement too.

Source: Declaration of the High Representative on behalf of the EU on the start of the criminal trial on the downing of flight MH17

Counsel of the EU - Press release, 7 March 2020 09:00

Declaration of the High Representative on behalf of the EU on the start of the criminal trial on the downing of flight MH17

We recall the downing of Flight MH17 over the east of Ukraine on the 17 July 2014. This tragedy caused the death of 298 innocent civilians of 17 different nationalities.

The start of the criminal trial on 9 March marks an important milestone towards establishing the truth, and achieving justice for the victims of Flight MH17 and their next of kin, and holding those responsible for the downing of Flight MH17 to account.

The European Union reiterates its full confidence in the independence and professionalism of the legal procedures.

As the criminal investigation of the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) continues, the EU calls on all States, including the Russian Federation, to cooperate fully with the investigation, in accordance with UNSC Resolution 2166.


Source (Dutch only): Tweede Kamer: vertaal MH17-proces live in Russisch als 'wapen tegen desinformatie'

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Vast majority
Lower House: translate MH17-proces live into Russian as a 'weapon versus disinformation'

1 hour 29 minutes ago - Modified: 41 minutes ago

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The courtroom in the high-security Schiphol Judicial Complex - Image © ANP


The MH17 court case must be translated into Russian so that the trial can also be followed live in Russia. This is requested by a majority of the House of Representatives, on the initiative of D66 Member of Parliament Sjoerd Sjoerdsma. The parties want to use the translation to inform the Russian public.

The translation should be arranged as soon as possible, says Sjoerdsma. "So that Russian citizens can see for themselves how independent the trial is, can see for themselves what evidence is on the table against, and can see for themselves what charges there are against, among others, Russian citizens."

Influencing


Russia does not cooperate, does not want to extradite suspects and denies any involvement. The country has spread various theories about the disaster. Russian military intelligence has also spied on the MH17 investigation and tried to influence investigators.

The trial can be followed in both Dutch and English. "That's too little," says Sjoerdsma. "I also think the translation could serve as a weapon against Russia's disinformation campaign."

According to him, since the downing of MH17 the country has been engaged in smokescreens, conspiracy theories. "But if you broadcast this live in Russian, Russian citizens can watch it for themselves without a filter."

A lot of support from parties

D66 asked the questions together with VVD, GroenLinks, SP, PvdA, ChristenUnie and SGP. All in all, these parties account for a large parliamentary majority of almost one hundred seats [out of 150]. They want the court to make the translation possible, if necessary with the help of Minister of Foreign Affairs Blok or Justice Minister Grapperhaus.

"This is a lawsuit with global impact. This case concerns a lot of people, also in Russia," says VVD Member of Parliament Jeroen van Wijngaarden. "I'm not terribly impressed by the degree of free press in Russia, so let's give the Russians the chance to follow this trial in their own language."

The Christian Union too is awaiting action from the Cabinet. "It would be very good if this is allowed to be done, because it's very important that the Russian public can see what's really going on and what's being said", Christian Union Member of Parliament Stieneke van der Graaf stated.


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Source Dutch only): Moskou: MH17-verdachten hun straf in Rusland laten uitzitten is onbespreekbaar

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'Not a normal trial'
Moscow: allowing MH17 suspects to serve their sentences in Russia is out of the question

27 February 2020 21:22 - Modified: 04 March 2020 08:16 AM

It is out of the question for Moscow to make Russian MH17 suspects serve their sentences in Russia. As things stand, the Russian government does not want to cooperate with possible punishments because Russia considers the investigation into the disaster to be 'unfair'.

On March 9th the trial starts in the Netherlands against four suspects who are held responsible for the MH17-disaster. Three of the four suspects have Russian nationality. They will not come to the Netherlands because Russia does not extradite its own nationals.

The Dutch government has asked Moscow whether these three Russian suspects, if found guilty, might serve their sentences in Russia.

'No evidence'

Moscow is not willing to talk to the Netherlands about carrying out sentences. The reason is that Moscow does not like the investigation into the MH17 disaster. "You can't talk about a possible punishment or serving a sentence if there's no evidence, if there's no chance of a normal trial".

This is what Maria Zacharova, spokeswoman for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said to RTL News. Our correspondent was at her press conference today to ask how Russia views the upcoming MH17 trial.

"Let me ask you a counter question," Zacharova said to our correspondent. "Unfortunately, the West proves that the biggest of cases lead to nothing. Do you know how many major disasters or murders there are that have still not been investigated"? Zacharova gives the assassination of U.S. President Kennedy in 1963 as an example.

'Unfair and barbaric'

The MH17 case, Zacharova fears, is being investigated just as badly. She claims, as Moscow did before, that the information from Russia is ignored in the investigation of the disaster. "It's unfair, it's barbaric."

This Russian accusation has always been denied by the international investigation team and the Dutch government. Minister Blok said recently that Russia has not responded properly to all the questions raised by the investigation team.

Incidentally, the fourth suspect on trial for the disaster does not have Russian nationality, but rather is Ukrainian. Where he is located is unclear [in Dutch]. Initially there was a legal problem here as well because Ukraine, just like Russia, does not extradite its own citizens.

Punishment in Ukraine


However, it has already been agreed [in Dutch] with the Ukraine that if a Ukrainian suspect is convicted by a Dutch judge, he will serve his sentence in the Ukraine. Evidently, Russia does not want to make such an agreement.
 
Source (Dutch only): Protest nabestaanden MH17 bij Russische ambassade aan vooravond proces

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MH17 process
NOS News - Interior - Today, 11:57

Protest next of kin MH17 at Russian Embassy on eve of trial

Relatives of the MH17 disaster [victims] protested in front of the Russian embassy in The Hague this morning. 298 empty seats were placed, symbolizing the number of people who died in the MH17-disaster.

The chair action was organized by the Workgroup Truth Finding MH17, which protests against the attitude of the Russian government. The working group emphasizes that Russia, among other things, distorts the truth, circulates false evidence and shields witnesses. Moscow denies any involvement in the downing of the aircraft, on July 17, 2014.

In May 2018, the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), which is investigating the disaster, concluded that the aircraft was shot down by a BUK missile coming from a Russian brigade.

This is the third time that a silent chair protest is organized in front of the embassy of Russia. The working group stresses that it is not an action on behalf of all the next of kin.

Tomorrow the first session against four suspects in the MH17 trial will take place. It is assumed that none of the suspects will be present at the trial.


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NATO Secretary General issued a statement on Boeing MH17
06.03.20-22: 49
It was emphasized that the hearing will begin on March 9 in a specially protected court complex at Schiphol airport.

Had not realized that Schiphol airport was the court.

Israel runs security there, osit.

Source Dutch only): Moskou: MH17-verdachten hun straf in Rusland laten uitzitten is onbespreekbaar
"Let me ask you a counter question," Zacharova said to our correspondent. "Unfortunately, the West proves that the biggest of cases lead to nothing. Do you know how many major disasters or murders there are that have still not been investigated"? Zacharova gives the assassination of U.S. President Kennedy in 1963 as an example.

Zacharova always states the obvious. Good on her for that one.
 
First day of hearings in the MH17 trial.

Preview articles in English:
Trial against first MH17 suspects starts in Netherlands on Monday
MH17 trial begins, 2,062 days after it was shot down
Four men, accused of MH17 murders, go on trial in the Netherlands - DutchNews.nl

Preview articles in Dutch:
Het MH17-proces begint. Hoe werkt het, wie zijn de verdachten en wat is het bewijs?
'Alles om ons zwart te maken', hoe Rusland kijkt naar het MH17-proces
Megaproces MH17 van start

Summary reporting of the first day (Dutch only):
Dag één MH17-proces: 49 nabestaanden willen spreekrecht, verdachte ontkent
MH17-verdachte: Ik heb er niets mee te maken
Dag één MH17-proces: 49 nabestaanden willen spreekrecht, verdachte ontkent
Namen van alle 298 slachtoffers voorgelezen bij begin proces vlucht MH17
Alle namen slachtoffers MH17 voorgelezen bij proces

Live blog of hearings (from hour to hour) (Dutch only):
Verdediging spreekt in MH17-proces: 'Hij had er niets mee te maken'

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Start of the live blog

10 hours ago
First trial day

As of today, the first four suspects are on trial in the MH17 process: three Russians and one Ukrainian allegedly involved in the application for and delivery of the BUK installation with which the aircraft was shot down on 17 July 2014. This happened over the eastern part of Ukraine, where there was fighting between the army and pro-Russian rebels. All 298 occupants were killed, including 196 Dutchmen.

10 hours ago
Dutch lawyers

The hearing starts at 10.00 a.m. and is chaired by Judge Hendrik Steenhuis. He is known from the case against politician Geert Wilders. There are three public prosecutors, who previously led criminal investigations into war crimes. The four suspects are not there. At least one of them is sending lawyers: Sabine ten Doesschate and Boudewijn van Eijck, both from a large Dutch law firm that is also regularly hired by the police.

10 hours ago
A lot of national and foreign coverage

The lawsuit is attracting worldwide interest. Some 450 journalists from home and abroad have applied to report on the case. Only fifteen of them fit in the courtroom. The rest will follow the case close to the Schiphol Judicial Complex, where the trial will take place.

Reporter Mattijs van de Wiel is present at the hearing. "You can see the excitement of the big event that is about to begin," he says in the NOS Radio 1 News. "Especially with the journalists. There's a lot of activity in the press center, a large temporary building set up especially for this case."

10 hours ago
Why the trial is held in the Netherlands

Why are three Russian and one Ukrainian suspect of an air disaster that took place over Eastern Ukraine being tried in the Netherlands? "Because they failed to set up a UN court," says reporter Mattijs van de Wiel. "Russia stopped that. Furthermore, the Netherlands took the lead in the investigation from day one and most of the victims are Dutch. That's why the case is being handled by Dutch judges."

9 hours ago
Next of kin also present

The next of kin of the victims of the air disaster can also visit the complex at Schiphol. "But the expectation is that most of those who want to follow it together, will go to the conference center in Nieuwegein," says reporter Mattijs van de Wiel. "That's the venue where they've met many times to be updated on the MH17 investigation."

9 hours ago
Investigation will continue anyway

Igor Girkin, Sergey Dobinsky, Oleg Pulatov and Leonid Khartschenko are on trial today. "The fact that the Netherlands starts the prosecution of four suspects, doesn't mean that the investigation is finished", says the leader of the Joint Investigation Team, Digna van Boetzelaer. The investigation will continue.

Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, Ukraine and the Netherlands officially extended their cooperation yesterday. Representatives of the countries also laid a wreath at the MH17 monument in Vijfhuizen. "I am especially relieved for the next of kin that the legal proceedings are now starting," says Van Boetzelaer.

9 hours ago
Names of all victims will be read out

At the beginning of the trial, the Public Prosecutor's Office will present the indictment. The Public Prosecutor accuses the four suspects of the shooting down of an aircraft and the murder of all occupants. The OM will read out the names of all 298 victims.

9 hours ago
These are the MH17 suspects

Nieuwsuur program made this portrait of the suspects:

Igor Girkin, nicknamed The Gunner: between April and July 2014, the Russian leads the rebels in Slavyansk. On July 5, 2014, Girkin and his men withdraw to Donetsk, stronghold of the pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine. There he will take on the role of Minister of Defense of the areas occupied by separatists. He also has that position at the moment that flight MH17 is brought down. From overheard conversations it appears that he played a part in transporting the BUK. In August 2014, he was forced to leave the region.

Sergei Doebinski, The Gloomy: Investigation of Nieuwsuur shows that the Russian is in charge of a reconnaissance and espionage unit during the disaster with flight MH17. In 2014 Doebinsky leaves the region and leaves for Rostov. A high-ranking rebel commander tells Nieuwsuur that Doebinsky was involved in extortion. He is said to have been forcibly evicted from the region.

Oleg Pulatov, The Viper: according to overheard conversations, Moscow-born Pulatov is near the weapon at the moment of the shooting of flight MH17. At that moment he is the deputy of Doebinsky. On a website he claims that he was already at the crash site 20 minutes after the shooting. In 2015 he would have left the Donetsk region, but later he turns up in the rebel-controlled region of Loegansk. There he would have been arrested. His former boss would have mediated to get him released.

Leonid Chartshenko, The Mole: in July 2014 the Ukrainian is the head of a spy unit in the southeast of the Donetsk region. According to the indictment made public by the Ukrainian authorities, Chartshenko was in the vicinity of the BUK and he is said to have reported to his highest boss, Doebinski, that they shot down a Ukrainian fighter plane.

These four men are not the ones who pressed the launch button or ordered the attack. Probably that responsibility is closer to, or even inside the Kremlin.

9 hours ago
No substantive discussion yet

The hearing's about to begin. "There will be no substantive examination of the case yet," says university lecturer in international criminal law Marieke de Hoon. "First the court will check who will turn up. For example, will the suspects send lawyers? If so, that means they're going to conduct a defense. If they don't show up, the court will have to see if they can be granted a defense in absentia." That means the proceedings can go ahead even if the defendants aren't there.

Incidentally, the suspects do not have to be present at the hearing. "In the Netherlands, as a suspect you do not have the duty to be present, but you do have the right. Every suspect is allowed to decide that himself."

9 hours ago
Twenty surviving relatives present

There are about twenty surviving relatives present at the criminal trial, says reporter Jeroen de Jager. Most of the next of kin, including people from Australia and Malaysia, are following the trial in Nieuwegein. Family investigators, the Public Prosecutor's Office and victim support are also present there.

According to Piet Ploeg, chairman of the Vliegramp MH17 Foundation, the feelings of the next of kin about the criminal trial vary. "The group is very diverse: some want to know the ins and outs, others would rather leave it behind."

These are also important days for Ploeg. "We're going to hear what happened, why the plane crashed and what Russia's role is." He wants to exercise his right to speak. That won't be possible until the end of the criminal trial, so it could take years. "I want the court and also the defendants to know what the impact of the downing of MH17 has been on our personal lives."

The suspects will not be in the room. "We want to look the suspects in the eye, but that's not the reality. We have to deal with it. We knew in advance that there was no chance of the suspects getting in front of the fence. But there will be justice."

9 hours ago
Two lawyers on behalf of Pulatov in the courtroom

In the courtroom are two lawyers on behalf of the accused Oleg Pulatov, together with a Russian colleague and an interpreter. Behind them a row of nine lawyers on behalf of the survivors of the crash. Furthermore, fifteen journalists, a sketcher and a number of relatives are seated in the room. In the Schiphol Judicial Complex there are also three video rooms where other interested parties can watch, including representatives of the countries participating in the Joint Investigation Team. There is also a video link to a location in Nieuwegein, where next of kin have gathered. The case is also broadcast in its entirety via a live stream.

9 hours ago
Plenary session open

Judge Steenhuis opened the hearing. "The crash of MH17 in Eastern Ukraine is the reason for this criminal case. Many have been looking forward to this day for a long time," he says. "In the terrible disaster, all 298 occupants were killed. This tragic loss of so many lives has led to reactions all over the world. It has enormous consequences for the families of the victims. The court will consider this in detail."

9 hours ago
Dutch language

The language of proceedings in the courtroom is Dutch, says the chairman of the court. Interested parties who do not speak Dutch, can follow the hearing via interpreters in English. The hearings will start at 10.00 a.m. and end at 5.00 p.m. every day this week.

9 hours ago
'Inventory nature'

The court explains who are sitting in the courtroom and what the criminal proceedings look like for the time being. "Because it would only become clear today whether a suspect would appear, these first few days have a stocktaking quality," explains the court president. "The purpose of this first stage of the trial is to assess the state of affairs."

Prior to the hearing, the court consulted with the public prosecutors and lawyers about the proceedings.

9 hours ago
Substantive discussion later

The court says that at the end of the year and the beginning of next year several weeks have been set aside for the substantive handling of the criminal case, but that it is still unclear how the trial actually will proceed and whether more time will be needed. "For next of kin it will undoubtedly be a difficult and emotional period," says the court. They will have the opportunity to speak in court at a later point in the trial.

The chair points out the rights of both victims and suspects. All four defendants are from abroad. If they want to defend themselves, they have to be assisted by a Dutch lawyer. Only they are authorized to operate in the Netherlands.

9 hours ago
Plenary session interrupted

Due to a technical problem, the court interrupted the hearing. The hearing will continue in half an hour.
[The live stream didn't function properly and headphones malfunctioned, according to reporter mattijs vd wiel]

9 hours ago
49 next of kin want speaking time

So far, 49 surviving relatives have come forward to speak in court at a later time. There are also 82 next of kin who would like to submit a written statement to the court about the consequences of the MH17 crash for them. For the time being, 84 surviving relatives are also submitting a claim for damages, the court reports.

8 hours ago
Live stream overloaded

The session was shut down because the live stream, on which people around the world watch, was overloaded. Also the headphones in the public gallery did not work.

8 hours ago
The session is resumed

The court president resumed the hearing and confirmed that there were problems with the live stream.

8 hours ago
Call for decency

The court president continues where he left off. He emphasizes that he will ensure a fair trial. He also asks the parties to the proceedings to treat each other with decency and respect. "Positions of the parties to the trial can be experienced as annoying or hurtful by others," he says. "Nevertheless, it is important that these points of view can be taken."

8 hours ago
Explanation of Dutch case law

Because of the great foreign interest, the court explains how a Dutch criminal lawsuit normally works. A lot is done in the Netherlands through writing. Unlike in other countries, experts and witnesses are usually not heard in public.

8 hours ago
Possible investigation wishes and defense in June

Before the trial began, the defense and the prosecution were in contact. The lawyers could not yet indicate what they would like to have gotten investigated further, because they only recently obtained the file. And because the 36,000 pages are in Dutch, they have not yet discussed the contents with their client Pulatov either. They have therefore asked to be allowed to submit any further investigation wishes in June, as well as any first defense. The court agreed.

8 hours ago
Judge: Pulatov informed of the accusation

Another formal point: district court chairman Steenhuis checks whether the summonses have reached the suspects. Oleg Pulatov (55) is the only one who sent lawyers. Through his Russian counsel Pulatov let it be known that he was not involved in the downing of the MH17 and would like to defend himself. The summons was issued to him, the court finds. "So he was aware of the trial and apparently chose not to be present".

8 hours ago
Girkin unreachable

The other three suspects have no defense.
The prosecutors did not succeed in issuing the summons to suspect Igor Girkin (49). On 30 December he should have received the documents at the court in Moscow, but he didn't appear.

A neighborhood policeman visited him at home, but the door was not opened. According to the neighbors, an elderly woman lived at that address. Attempts of the Public Prosecutor's Office in the Netherlands to reach him via Skype and e-mail also failed. He did, however, tell a Russian press agency that he would not appear and that the evidence against him was false.

8 hours ago
Man denied being Doebinski on the phone

Also the summons to Sergei Doebinski (57) didn't arrive. He was not at the address where he was supposed to live. Twice he didn't come to the court either, to receive the documents. Attempts to get in touch via Facebook, mail and Skype came to nothing. However, he did read an app and clicked on a link in an e-mail to a message from the Joint Investigation Team.

He also received a phone call. The man who answered the call denied being Doebinski, although detectives did recognize his voice. Doebinski too would have told the media that he saw the accusations and that he would not participate in the trial.

8 hours ago
Chartsjenko not contactable either

With the Ukrainian suspect Leonid Chartshenko (48) the issuing of the summons did not go much better. At the address where he would officially stay, the door was welded shut by the housing association. Residents said that he moved six years ago.

Letters were left in several places with information about the criminal case and the Public Prosecutor's Office tried to reach him in all sorts of ways. In an e-mail to Chartsjenko a link to information about the trial appeared to have been opened. Furthermore, family members were informed and the summons was extensively published in the media in Ukraine.

8 hours ago
Subpoenas correctly issued, session can continue

Cases against suspects who have not been subpoenaed can be dealt with as usual. The subpoenas were issued on time and correctly in Russia and Ukraine, the court finds.

Both Ukraine and Russia cooperated in the Dutch request for legal assistance. The documents were presented at the address where the suspects were registered.

The court believes that Doebinsky did see the letter to him. For Girkin and Chartshenko it's still a guess. But considering all the media attention, the court has no doubt that all suspects were aware of the case.

"It can also be expected that someone will then do his best to become aware of the accusations," said the judge. Would the suspects want to send an attorney at a later time, that is always allowed.

8 hours ago
The names of victims are read out

The chairman of the court asks the Public Prosecution Service to start the presentation. The public prosecutor now reads out the names of all 298 victims of the MH17 disaster.

7 hours ago
Names read out for minutes

Officer Dedy Woei-A-Tsoi finished reading the names, which took about twenty minutes. The names are in the indictment because, according to the prosecutor, these people were murdered.

Before, the Public Prosecutor pronounced what the four suspects are charged with. "They brought a deadly weapon to Eastern Ukraine and to the location where a BUK missile was fired that hit the MH17. They also arranged for the weapon to be removed afterwards."

The officer reiterated the official suspicion: causing the death and murder of all occupants of an aircraft. She then quietly read out the names of all 298 victims.

7 hours ago
Judge: moment of silence and reflection appropriate, session adjourned

According to the president of the court, a moment of "silence and reflection" is appropriate after reading out the names.

He suspends the session for lunch until 1:30 p.m.

7 hours ago
Next of kin preferred to applaud after reading out names

It took about 20 minutes to read out the names. For next of kin in the room an emotional moment. Impressive, according to the court. "The great silence in this hall when the names were mentioned makes that clear," said chairman Steenhuis.

Afterwards, next of kin raised their thumbs to the prosecutors and said they wanted to applaud.

6 hours ago
Lawyer next of kin: happy to continue trial

"What we've just heard is impressive. It shows the impact on Dutch society and families," said Peter Langstraat, speaking on behalf of nine lawyers from 398 surviving relatives.

Langstraat is satisfied that the trial is proceeding in an orderly fashion and can continue. "The defense could also have requested an adjournment, due to the large number of pages in the file and the fact that it has not all been translated for their client. Then perhaps it could already have finished today or tomorrow. Fortunately for the next of kin, that didn't happen."


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Afternoon session in the next post.
 
Source (Dutch only): Verdediging spreekt in MH17-proces: 'Hij had er niets mee te maken'

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7 hours ago
Session reopened

The court reopened the hearing. The Public Prosecutor's Office, the lawyers of accused Pulatov, as well as the legal aid team of the relatives will still speak.

7 hours ago
'For some the trial is a relief, for others an extra burden'

"The oldest victim came from Indonesia and was 82 years old. The youngest victim came from Malaysia and was not more than 1 year old."

Prosecutor Ward Ferdinandusse says that not only did 298 people die, but the lives of many more relatives have changed dramatically.

"The couple who lost their only child said, 'Death itself has become different. You do your daily chores. After you die, you may be with her again.' Another next of kin said, 'I find everything pointless and have no energy left. I've lost contact with the goodness of life.' For some this process comes as a relief, for others as an extra burden."

7 hours ago
Prosecutor: BUK installation should never have been in Ukraine

According to the Public Prosecutor's Office, the MH17 case is different from other cases in which an aircraft was shot down. The aircraft was not shot down by armed forces defending their own territory, the officer stressed. "The BUK installation should never have been in Ukraine. The shooting down should not have been organized and carried out in any way."

Moreover, according to the prosecutor's office, there was no accounting for the disaster.

The Public Prosecutor's Office commends the witnesses who made a statement during the investigation into the shooting of the MH17, and the journalists who carried out an in-depth investigation into the events in 2014. "Even though a lot of lies are being told nowadays, this investigation confirms that the truth cannot be covered up," said Public Prosecutor Ferdinandusse.

The international investigation team has also examined all the information provided by Russia. The results will be discussed at a later session.

7 hours ago
'Those who seem intangible today may have to appear tomorrow'

In addition to this criminal case, other proceedings are in progress. For example, Russia has been held liable by the Dutch government for the downing of flight MH17.

This does not stand in the way of the prosecution of the current four suspects, says the Public Prosecutor's Office. Incidentally, it does not expect that they will ever appear in court themselves.

Nevertheless, the judiciary has not for a moment doubted the usefulness of a trial. "It's about establishing what happened," said the prosecution.

According to him, it is also not certain that suspects escape punishment after a conviction. Russia will not extradite them, but other countries may. "Whoever seems elusive today may face his court tomorrow."

7 hours ago
Judiciary does not expect to prosecute new suspects in the short term

According to the Public Prosecutor's Office, dozens of people played a role in transporting or guarding the BUK installation. Not everyone could be identified. Some have passed away. And there's too little evidence against several other suspects.

For instance, there is Vladimir Tsemach, who, according to the prosecution, belonged to the same group as the suspects. The Netherlands requested his extradition a while ago, but Russia managed to prevent this. At the moment there is too little evidence against him to prosecute him, the prosecutor said.

Another fellow fighter of the suspects, Igor Bezler, tipped in a phone call that "a bird" was coming. That was right before the shooting of MH17. But the prosecution is not convinced that this call contributed to the actual shooting down of the plane.

Also against others, such as possibly high-ranking Russian soldiers, the Public Prosecutor's Office does not have enough evidence. The Justice Department does not expect to be able to prosecute any more suspects in the near future.

The four suspects now on trial were "protagonists", according to the Public Prosecution Service. Two of them formed the military top in Eastern Ukraine, the other two were directly under their authority. They would have emphatically planned to shoot down a plane.

7 hours ago
'Perpetrators may have hoped to hit Ukrainian plane'

It could well be that the shooting of the MH17 was a mistake, the prosecution sketches. It is possible that those involved hoped to hit a Ukrainian fighter.

But shooting down a military plane is also punishable, said prosecutor Ferdinandusse. "A mistake in the target makes no difference to the crime committed."

It doesn't matter that there was war in the area. Only regular soldiers acting on behalf of states that respect the law of war, are sometimes subject to different rules. For all others the usual rules of criminal law apply. "War is not a license to violence by anyone against anyone."

6 hours ago
Prosecution: dealing with misleading information one of the biggest challenges in this case

A recurring allegation from Russia is that evidence from the international investigation team has been fabricated. Tap conversations were allegedly manipulated, photographs and videos were allegedly fake.

The Public Prosecutor's Office thinks it can refute these claims after extensive investigation. For example, experts have been brought in to investigate the authenticity of the footage.

Smoke screens


The Public Prosecutor's Office calls dealing with deception "one of the biggest challenges" in this case. "Again in the coming period, we must expect that attention will be diverted from the facts. It is therefore important to make a good distinction between the smokescreens that are raised and what this process is really about."

The Public Prosecution Service also reports that the identity of dozens of witnesses remains secret in the file, because otherwise they would be seen as traitors. The Public Prosecutor finishes by saying that it is very important to find out the truth and to punish those responsible, in order to prevent a repetition of the disaster.

6 hours ago
Lawyer suspect Pulatov: 'Disaster was dramatic, but he had nothing to do with it'

The defense of suspect Oleg Pulatov takes the floor. His lawyer, Sabine ten Doesschate, says to be shocked by the disaster. "We fully support today's focus on the immeasurable grief of the bereaved."

She also stresses the importance of finding out the truth. Ten Doesschate says that she has often been asked why her client Pulatov wants to defend himself. The answer is simple according to her: "He says that he did not have anything to do with the shooting of MH17. That's why he wants to defend himself."

They won't deny the "dramatic consequences" of the disaster. "The landing of the victims and the transport of the coffins is on our retinas too."

6 hours ago
Defense lawyer: many subjects require further investigation

Lawyer Boudewijn van Eijck announces that he sees many subjects in the 36,000-page file that require further investigation.

For example: why was the airspace above Ukraine only closed to a limited extent at the time? According to him, the Joint Investigation Team did not investigate this any further.

According to Van Eijck, the consequence of "this astonishing choice" is that it cannot be determined whether those responsible from Ukraine can be prosecuted in the Netherlands.

He stated that Ukraine did not take the danger to passenger aircraft sufficiently into account. The lawyer says he will come back to this point extensively in June.

The court suspends the hearing until 15.45 hours.

6 hours ago
Plenary session adjourned, to continue tomorrow

There are also nine lawyers sitting in the courtroom on behalf of almost four hundred surviving relatives. Attorney at law Peter Langstraat explains that the counselors had previously been jointly involved in filing a claim for damages with Malaysia Airlines. They also assist surviving relatives in proceedings before the European Court of Human Rights.

The court then closes the hearing for today. The trial will continue tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. The Public Prosecutor's Office will further clarify the current status of the criminal investigation.

5 hours ago
Summary of day one of the MH17 process

Today, under great international interest, criminal proceedings have begun against four men suspected of involvement in the downing of flight MH17 in July 2014. As expected, the suspects were not present at the criminal trial. However, one of them has been represented by Dutch lawyers. The Public Prosecution Service does not expect to prosecute soon any new suspects in this complex case, of which the file contains 36,000 pages.

A substantive hearing has not yet taken place today. A summary article about the day can be found here [in Dutch].

We hereby close the live blog for today.


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Ответный удар по Западу: Россия представит доклад о войне против России и крушении «Боинга» МН17
10.03.2020 - 5:30


Retaliatory strike against the West: Russia will present a report on the war against Russia and the crash of the Boeing MH17
10.03.2020-5: 30
The crash of the Malaysian Boeing will be one of the chapters of the book about the information war against Russia.

The publication of a book about the information war of the West against Russia, which has been going on for the last six years, has been announced. It will consist of six chapters, which tell about the six dirty productions — Russian "interference" in the election of the United States, it Skrobala, doping athletes, the crash of the Boeing MH17, etc. About this said the head of the Fund for the protection of national values, the President of the Commission of Public chamber of the Russian Federation on development of information community, media and mass communications Alexander Malkevich.

"There is an information war against our country. At least six years ago. And the Boeing disaster is one of the chapters of the yet-to-be-written book about this war."

According to Malkevich, the launch of the book will coincide with the sixth anniversary of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing. The report will be read in Moscow, Berlin, Amsterdam and any other city where they want to hear it.

Meanwhile, in the Hague, the trial of the death of the MH17 airliner began, where "four Russians are in the dock". Obviously, the prosecution, despite a huge number of anti-evidence and antiarguments, will insist on Russia's involvement in the crash.

Alina Kuzmina
Ответный удар по Западу: Россия представит доклад о войне против России и крушении «Боинга» МН17
 
Thanks youlik for bringing this to the fore. :cool2:
Would their timing be correct, the book will be launched halfway through next July, so please keep an eye on possible news about it around that date if possible. I'll do the same of course.

Reports about day one of the trial in English:
MH17 trial SHOW starts in Amsterdam without evidence: Interview with Donetsk's ex-commander -- Sott.net
Emotional MH17 hearing paused after victims' names were read
MH17 suspect may testify in trial, lawyers say

Reports about day two of the trial in English:
Public prosecutor outlines crash investigation at MH17 trial - DutchNews.nl
Opening Statement public prosecutor (9-3-2020)
MH17 witnesses afraid of assassination, Prosecutor says

Reports about day two of the trial in Dutch:
Nieuwe getuigen in zaak MH17, onderzoek bijna klaar
OM in MH17-proces: getuigen zijn bang voor hun leven
Het MH17-proces is nog lang niet aan de inhoud toe
Proces MH17 verdaagd tot 23 maart
Separatist heeft verklaard over afvuren buk ten tijde van neerhalen MH17
Dit was de tweede dag van het MH17-proces


Live blog of day two
(Dutch only):
Verdediging hekelt betoog OM over desinformatie Rusland

Note: part of the opening statement of the Public Prosecution Office is missing in the blog but can be read via the link above.
DeepL Translator said:
9 hours ago
Summarized:
Pulatov may be able to claim safe conduct in order to testify in the Netherlands
OM calls on Girkin and Kharchenko to clarify their self-contradictory statements

9 hours ago
We're gonna interrupt the session for twenty minutes.

9 hours ago
The hearing is resumed for the second part of the public prosecutor's speech.

9 hours ago
The progress of the further investigation is discussed. Only further investigation in the case against Pulatov is sought. Would the attitude of the other defendants who are being prosecuted in absentia, change yet, their case will be re-examined.

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor's Office continues to discuss the tapped conversations and their reliability. The Public Prosecutor states that general allegations about "that the tapped conversations in the file are incorrect" cannot be verified. But if suspects deny that they can be heard in the tapped conversations, forensic investigation of the tapped conversations can take place again. For now, everything has been sufficiently investigated, the Public Prosecution Service believes.

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor's Office further elaborates on the Russian authorities' twists and turns. For example, satellite images were shown at a press conference held by the Russian Ministry of Defense that allegedly showed a BUK system in Ukrainian territory. But checks revealed that the images had been manipulated. The Russian authorities also said that an image of the BUK-TELAR had not been taken in separatist territory, but in territory that was in the hands of the Ukrainian armed forces. However, a check revealed that this image had also been manipulated, and that it indeed had been captured in separatist territory.

9 hours ago
Although Russia is trying to sprinkle a lot of sand in the eyes, the Public Prosecutor's Office wants to have carried out further research on a handful of points.

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor's Office has many witness statements, including that of a separatist guarding the BUK-TELAR. At first he was happy when he was told that a military plane had been brought down. However, his mood changed when "people came back from the crash site and said it was a civilian plane".

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor wants a selection to be made of important moments in the interrogation. The Public Prosecution Service also wants to re-interview a number of witnesses. This concerns, for example, witness S7 and witness S21, both of whom appear to have been active in the area from which the BUK missile was fired.

9 hours ago
All this is part of what the prosecution wants to have examined. We're running down the prosecution's list steadily.

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor also proposes an inspection, where the court can take a look at the wreckage and the shrapnel impacts in the plane. Hundreds of particles from the BUK missile have drilled into the aircraft.

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor states that immediately after the crash information was freely shared, among others by the rebels, because at first no one realized they hit a passenger plane. A press spokesman of the separatists even called a photographer to tell him that they had "shot down a military plane". "After it turned out it was a passenger plane, the disinformation campaign started." For example, at this point reporting in Russian media suddenly evaporates.

9 hours ago
So again we have to address the misinformation that Russia deliberately disseminated in the years after MH17. "To this day, the Russian authorities have not given a definitive answer as to what they believe happened. The Russian message consists solely of sowing doubts."

Twitter message______________________

So far the prosecution at the MH17 trial is pretty much confirming
all of Bellingcat's reporting, both on the facts of the downing, and
the disinformation campaign around it, and adding even more to it.

Eliot Higgins - 12:38 - March 10, 2020

9 hours ago
The Public Prosecution Service points out that it is hard for the next of kin that the Russian government does not take responsibility. What exactly happened is important for them to know.

9 hours ago
Substantive discussion is likely to take place in the course of 2021. "Until then, the disinformation campaign is expected to continue."

8 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor's Office touches briefly on the planning. It depends on the defense how the substantive treatment will be organized. For example, if some alternative scenarios for the crash can be dismissed, this can already be dealt with prior to the substantive treatment.

The Public Prosecution Service proposes an inspection of the wreckage so that the court can see the damage with its own eyes.
The Public Prosecutor wants to hear some anonymous witnesses again in front of the examining magistrate.
The Public Prosecutor's Office wants an expert to re-examine the image manipulation of two images in the file, as claimed by Russia.

8 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor's Office's explanation of the state of progress of the investigation is hereby completed. The defense would like to respond after the break.

8 hours ago
After the break, the team of lawyers [for the survivors] will give an explanation too of the documents they have submitted. The break will last until 14.15 hours.


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Afternoon session in the next post.
 
Вот и начался предсказуемый цирк. Заявление прокурора о заявлении неизвестного свидетеля о том что он видел каких то людей в неизвестной форме, говорящих на языке, на котором говорит половина населения страны. Однако вывод потрясающе однозначен: виновна Россия.
Все таки как хорошо, что наконец то у нас затеяли вносить изменения в конституцию. В частности о главенстве внутреннего законодательства над международным. И дальше хоть JIT, хоть Гаага, хоть Стокгольм- просто наплевать. Дурите себя сами.

Прокурор по делу MH17 рассказала о "русских солдатах" возле "Бука"
17:27 10.03.2020

Translation

So the predictable circus began . The Prosecutor's statement about the statement of an unknown witness that he saw some people in an unknown form, speaking a language spoken by half of the country 's population. However, the conclusion is shockingly clear: Russia is guilty.
All the same, it 's good that we finally started to make changes to the Constitution. In particular, the primacy of domestic law over international law. And then even JIT, even the Hague, even Stockholm-just do not care. Fool yourself, if you please.

Prosecutor in the MH17 case told about "Russian soldiers" near " Buk"
17:27 10.03.2020
AMSTERDAM, 10 Mar-RIA Novosti. An anonymous "M58 witness" repeatedly claimed to have seen "Russian soldiers" before launching the Buk air defense system on the day of the crash of flight MH17 in Eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, Dutch Prosecutor Dedi Voi-a-Tsoi said at the trial of the crash. Earlier, Russia has repeatedly called allegations about the presence of Russian troops in the conflict zone in Ukraine unfounded, and the Russian Prosecutor's office informed the Dutch side of its conclusions about the launch of a Ukrainian missile from the territory controlled by Kiev.
Court hearings in the case of the MH17 crash began on Monday 9 March in the specially protected Schiphol complex. The case involves four defendants-Russians Igor Girkin, Sergey Dubinsky, Oleg Pulatov and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. Pulatov is being defended by an international group consisting of two Dutch and one Russian lawyer.
Investigators in THE mh17 case said a witness to the launch of the Buk"
"In the case there is evidence of a witness M58... He points out that on July 17, 2014, during the crash of flight MH17, he was at an intersection South of Snizhne (a city on the territory of the DPR-ed.), near the Buk SAM during its launch... The witness has repeatedly stated, among other things, that he recognized the Russian accent of the soldiers present at the starting place of the installation, and that the Russian soldiers were in this "beech", — said the Prosecutor. Russian Russian soldiers are not known to have been "Russian" or "Russian" soldiers, except for speaking in Russian (which is spoken by a significant part of the Ukrainian population).
She noted that witness M58 was heard by the investigating judge in October 2019. The investigation took measures to protect this witness.
Voi-a-Choi clarified that he will not appear in court for security reasons.
A Malaysian Boeing flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on flight MH17 crashed on July 17, 2014 near Donetsk. There were 298 people on Board, all of them were killed. Kiev blamed the crash on the militia, who said they did not have the means to shoot down the aircraft at such an altitude.
Dutch journalist publishes intelligence documents on MH17 crash
The joint investigation team (JTG), which, under the direction of the Dutch Prosecutor General's office, is investigating the circumstances of the crash without the participation of the Russian Federation, later presented interim results. The investigation claims that the Boeing was shot down from the Buk anti-aircraft missile system belonging to the 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade of the Russian armed forces from Kursk. As stated by RIA Novosti Deputy Prosecutor General of Russia Nikolai Vinnichenko, the Russian side gave the Netherlands not only Russian radar data, but also documentation indicating that the Buk missile that hit Boeing belonged to Ukraine, and it was launched from the territory controlled by Kiev, but this information was ignored by investigators. At the same time, on the first day of the court session, the prosecution admitted that it had received and was studying data from the Russian Prosecutor's office.
The Russian foreign Ministry said that the accusations of the SSG in Russia's involvement in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing are unfounded and cause regret, the investigation is biased and one-sided. Later, President Vladimir Putin noted that Russia is not allowed to investigate the crash of the airliner in Eastern Ukraine, and Moscow can recognize the results of the investigation if it takes a full part in it. All the missiles whose engine was demonstrated by the Dutch Commission investigating the MH17 crash were disposed of after 2011, the Russian defense Ministry said. Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov has repeatedly stated that Moscow categorically rejects accusations of involvement in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing.
Прокурор по делу MH17 рассказала о "русских солдатах" возле "Бука"
 
Source (Dutch only): Verdediging hekelt betoog OM over desinformatie Rusland

DeepL Translator said:
7 hours ago
Let's continue. Pulatov's defense struggles briefly with the adjustable desk, but now starts responding to the Prosecutor's Office opening statement. The man meant he would testify "on behalf of" a Dutch court and not "in front of a Dutch judge". Apparently that went wrong in the translation.

7 hours ago
Ten Doesschate goes on to say that they are not yet in a position to determine which investigative wishes are "in favor of the defense". She does not find a reaction fitting in these stocktaking sessions. "The amount of work for the defense is neglected" with the statement from the Public Prosecution that they could already now come up with a reaction to the investigation wishes, according to the lawyer.

7 hours ago
In other words:

The defense won't now address the substance of the investigation wishes because of the mountain of work they have yet to do.
Pulatov's lawyers only stepped up to the task in January and thus have a backlog of work.
The planning of the Public Prosecutor's Office seems a little too optimistic in this respect. The lawyers feel that June gives only just enough time for the preliminary defenses.

7 hours ago
Her office partner Van Eijck takes the floor. He feels that the Public Prosecutor's Office has spoken very sharply and publicly about the safety of the anonymous witnesses. He finds this premature, because the defense is not yet able to respond to the allegations. "The witnesses whom the defense still wants to hear in the case should not be influenced by what the prosecution has now said."

7 hours ago
The defense also regrets that the Public Prosecutor's Office has said that Russia is spreading disinformation. "The Netherlands does ask for cooperation of the Russian Federation at its convenience."

7 hours ago
"Everything that has been said about this, our client Pulatov has nothing to do with it. It shouldn't be that the defense follows after the events and is put under pressure with deadlines that are not set by the law."

7 hours ago
In summary: the lawyers do not want to respond to anything substantive because they are trailing behind in the criminal file, which has been worked on for years. In this regard, they denounce the argument of the Public Prosecution Service about the spread of untruths by Russia.

7 hours ago
The prosecution will respond to the defense soon. But first the floor is open to the next of kin's lawyers.

7 hours ago
The next of kin find it annoying that they were not involved in the attuning of the agenda. The lawyers were only informed of the agenda on Friday afternoon and, to their disappointment, could therefore not formulate a good opening speech.

7 hours ago
The next of kin's team of lawyers once again points out their significance in this process. Civil liability is "closely linked to criminal liability", it is now argued. Their position is that the criminal proceedings should be accessible and comprehensible to the hundreds of surviving relatives who are watching.

7 hours ago
The next of kin also want to get their hands on the complete dossier. This will not be leaked because they don't want a 'trial by media', but according to their lawyers there should be 'equality of arms'. In other words: when the defense is allowed to examine the documents, their lawyers and they should also be allowed to do so.

7 hours ago
In summary: the lawyers and the next of kin want to be more involved in the hearings.

7 hours ago
We interrupt the hearing for three quarters of an hour so that the prosecution can respond to Pulatov's defense and to the lawyers of the relatives. Pause until 3:45 p.m.

6 hours ago
The floor goes to the prosecution now. "We note that there is no response on the part of the defense," the prosecution states with regard to the investigative requests submitted by the prosecutors. As for Pulatov, "it's now stuck in the middle how he's mixed in." As long as that option is open, the Public Prosecutor wants to make preparations for the questioning of the man as a witness in the case of other suspects. This is now also being requested from the court.

6 hours ago
As far as the workload is concerned, the Public Prosecutor's Office believes it has read in an interview with the lawyers that they are perfectly capable of handling it. "It's in the best interest of the case, preferably even in advance of the directional hearing, to have clarity."

6 hours ago
The Public Prosecutor also notes that their argument about protecting witnesses was not directed at Pulatov. However, the defense understood this as such.

6 hours ago
Now to the request of the lawyers of the group of next of kin. "The Public Prosecution Service considers it very important that the next of kin have all the necessary information at their disposal." However, the Public Prosecution Service does not wish to grant general requests about the submission of all procedural documents in this part of the proceedings.

6 hours ago
The Public Prosecution Service wants to look into which documents can be provided to the next of kin in June, because then they will have a better idea of what will be discussed.

6 hours ago
Ten Doesschate responded briefly to the Prosecutor's Office. "The fact that no substantive objections are now being raised does not mean that they do not exist. Nor does it mean that there are such." In other words: it is emphasized that Pulatov's defense team really doesn't want to respond to the investigation wishes of the Prosecution at this very moment.

6 hours ago
The lawyers of the group of next of kin also give a brief response. They remain of the opinion that if the defense receives certain documents, the next of kin should also receive them. Also, the lawyers do not consider it sufficient to be allowed to see only certain documents; "the interrelatedness of the documents" is the issue at stake.

6 hours ago
If they have not been able to inspect documents, the next of kin's lawyers and the next of kin themselves argue that the hearing in June cannot be fully understood either.

6 hours ago
The court must now consider the points that have been discussed. This means that the hearing is now adjourned until Monday, March 23, 10:00 a.m. The hearings on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday will therefore be cancelled. Thereafter there will be a week's 'break' and then we will resume the MH17 trial.

5 hours ago
Summarized:

The Public Prosecutor's Office has submitted requests for investigations, for example into the images in the file that an expert could look into further. They also want to start proceedings to hear Pulatov as a witness, which can always be waived.
The defense does not yet want to respond to these investigation wishes because they have had too little time to prepare.
The lawyers of the next of kin want to have access to the whole criminal file, because otherwise they cannot prepare themselves sufficiently for the hearings.

5 hours ago
That's the end of this live blog for now.


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Вполне, пока еще, дипломатичное заявление Российского посольства по теме.

Россия обвинила следствие по «Боингу» MH17 в предвзятости и игнорировании данных
10.03.2020 - 22:57

Translation

It is still quite a diplomatic statement of the Russian Embassy on the topic.

Russia has accused the investigation into Boeing MH17 of bias and ignoring data
10.03.2020-22: 57
The Dutch investigation continues to ignore the array of information transmitted by Russia about the circumstances of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing in the Donbas and spins an anti-Russian campaign in the media. This is stated in the press release of the Russian Embassy in the Netherlands.

"In connection with the trial opened in the district court of the Hague in the case of the crash of flight MH17 on July 17, 2014 in the airspace of Ukraine, we would like to once again Express a principled assessment of what is happening.

The Russian Federation is not a party to this process. At the same time, Russia, while remaining fully committed to the letter and spirit of UN security Council resolution 2166, has consistently advocated a full, thorough and independent investigation, as well as a fair punishment for those who are truly responsible for this tragedy.

To this end, our country has provided and continues to provide all necessary assistance to the international investigation through legal aid channels.

At the same time, we cannot help but pay attention to the fact that a media campaign is being launched in the Netherlands with an accusatory bias against Russia and its citizens. This, obviously,was done in order to compensate for the existing gaps in the evidence base, to lead the case to confirm the pre-selected version of the alleged involvement of the Russian Federation in the tragedy.

To enhance the desired effect, references are made to witnesses who are classified, indications of sources that can not be disclosed or, conversely, taken from social networks and can not be verified for authenticity.

At the same time, however, the issue of Ukraine's non-closure of its airspace for civil aviation flights in the summer of 2014 in the conditions of internal armed conflict is not covered up.

A significant amount of information and data about the circumstances of the incident transmitted by Russia is still being ignored.

Investigators are not interested in why exactly on the eve of the start of the trial in Ukraine, all employees of the Prosecutor's office who were investigating the crash were dismissed.

All this once again gives us reason to doubt the objectivity, impartiality and transparency of the work of the Joint investigation group (GCC), where we were denied the opportunity to participate.

We would not like to anticipate the court's decisions. We hope that in the course of the adversarial process, all available information will be considered impartially, and not only the arguments voiced by the prosecution.
Россия обвинила следствие по «Боингу» MH17 в предвзятости и игнорировании данных
 
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