L-form bacteria and silver

Kasimir

Kasimir

The Force is Strong With This One
I've been rather sick almost a year now. I've tried few things but only managed to find little relief. I can't figure out whats going on. I've tried many many different supplements including parasite herbs. I get some relief from K/Na bicarbonate and Iodine.

Strange things going on like adverse reactions to amino acids. Response to probiotics is not what I expect. Maybe I do something wrong. Also strange that I get worse from vitamin D / sun. Then I read transcript from Session 3 September 2008 where Cs confirm that vitamin D is harmful to those infected with L bacteria. I also found some support for that statement in the net. Perhaps colloidal silver is what I need or is nano silver the best defence against L form bacteria?
 
What kind of diet are you on? Have you been avoiding coffee, sugar, dairy, and gluten/wheat?
 
I try to limit sugar and alcohol because of adverse reactions but I'm not on any special diet. Why should I be? I have no allegies I know of.
 
Kasimir said:
I try to limit sugar and alcohol because of adverse reactions but I'm not on any special diet. Why should I be? I have no allegies I know of.
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Hi Kasimir,

Being "sick" and having symptoms is your body's way of letting you know that you are ingesting something that is bad for you. Symptoms and sickness is your body's way of trying to expell toxins. Treating the symptoms will only lead to temporary relief. (Sure, make note of them and track them in order to guage your progress.) If you take care of your overall health, the symptoms will take care of themselves.
Not knowing that you have any allergies doesn't mean that you don't have any. Allergies aren't just manifested in sneezing and rashes and such. Allergies can be symptoms such as constipation, headaches, fatigue, etc. Many people are allergic, or have adverse reactions to the big four, gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and don't even know it. All they know is that their health is not optimal.
You may benefit from reading these threads for starters.

Fasting, Gluten, MSG, Soy, Blood Type Diet http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=5882.0
Anti-Candida, Inflammation, Heavy Metals Detox and Diet http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=10573.0

FWIW

Moderator's note: The links have been activated. There are very good links. ;)
 
chachachick really hits the core of the matter here, Kasimir. I'm an example, having eaten dairy at pretty much every meal for my whole life until two years ago, never knowing I was allergic to it, yet having increasing health problems I could not pin down to any source or cause. Well, cutting out dairy made an enormous difference, and eradicated almost all of my health problems, which were really getting quite serious! Just one case study among millions, I'm sure. fwiw.
 
Hi Kasimir,

In your first post to the forum you wrote:

This is terrible outlook. I don't want us to starve as a field slaves owned by money lenders! That thought is crushing my heart! How can we live with this reality?
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Yes, this reality is toxic. One of the important ways we get toxins is through the food we eat. As chachachick and anart have said, we can have allergies to foods we have been eating our whole lives. These allergies may not appear while we are young, but the effects will accumulate over the years.

You might say that getting on a healthy diet, finding out what foods are good for you and which are toxic, is one of the first steps in answering the question you asked above. If our body is not well, we can't think straight. We can be depressed and passive. Our emotions can be out of whack. In order to be able to think clearly, in order to have any hope of seeing the world objectively, we must start with cleaning our machines, our bodies.

If you read the many threads in the Diet and Health section of the forum, you will find a lot of good advice about how to go about detoxifying your body.
 
Hi, Kasimir.

Fwiw, you also may want to read the book, The UltraSimple Diet by Mark Hyman, M. D. It's basically a one week diet plan where you avoid all sugar, gluten, dairy and other common food allergens while taking basic supplements to help your body handle the detox process. Then you slowly and methodically add certain foods back into your diet to see if they are the cause of your symptoms.
 
Black Swan said:
Hi, Kasimir.

Fwiw, you also may want to read the book, The UltraSimple Diet by Mark Hyman, M. D. It's basically a one week diet plan where you avoid all sugar, gluten, dairy and other common food allergens while taking basic supplements to help your body handle the detox process. Then you slowly and methodically add certain foods back into your diet to see if they are the cause of your symptoms.
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I second what Black Swan has stated here, as I have been on the UltraSimple diet for two weeks and the results have been fantastic for me. The basic plan is a one week plan, but it also contains a plan for a more detailed change in your dietary habits that I have embarked on with great success (IMO). The truth is that this is not a 'DIET' at all, but a way to change how you feed your body daily, and reap the benefits of eating what is right for you.

I would suggest you read all the available information in the Diet and Health sections on this forum.

FWIW,

gwb
 
Ok, thanks a lot folks,

The possibility of being allergic to big four (gluten, dairy, soy, corn) and it's consequences feels like major burden to me. I'm already so tired with everything and my energy is limited. Anyway, I'll look up this UltraSimple diet thing.

The diet is not the first things that come to your mind because the connection is not so obvious. I understand the need to detox toxins from the body. Like mercury, fluoride and so on. And of course avoid intaking them. I have been fantasizing that this, and some pathogen killing stuff perhaps silver, would be enough to do the trick.
 
Kasimir,

If you are infected with L bacteria, as I am also, diet alone will probably not be enough to heal completely. I've been 100% Paleo for over 12 years, raw Paleo for the last 6, and while that resolved many significant gut issues, my very strict diet was unable to affect my remaining inflammatory issues such as osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, Raynaud's, paresthesia and tinnitus.

However, I discovered and began a therapy called the Marshall Protocol about 20 months ago, and from my experiences with it, I believe I am on the way to complete cure of all of the above.

It is definitely not crazy that you are negatively affected by sunshine and Vitamin D, as was noted by the C's in the Sept. '08 session. Many, many people who have serious L bacteria infections are affected similarly. Personally, I did not notice negative effects, but neither did a year of sunbathing and multiple years of Vitamin D supplementation do anything at all to reduce my inflammatory issues.

These can upset hormone balance and make one "feel" better (or worse) in the short run but actually weaken your immune system over time, much the same as prednisone and other steroidal medications. This is because so-called "Vitamin" D functions in the body more as a hormone precursor than as a nutrient.

Here are some links for further reference:

Simple explanations of how the therapy works:
• Th1 inflammation pathogenesis
• innate immunity
• Vitamin D metabolism
• Activation of the VDR (Vitamin D Receptor) by Benicar (Olmesartan)
_http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/364.html

At the website _http://bacteriality.com, which was created by recovered patient and bio grad student Amy Proal, there’s a more complete explanation of the therapy: _http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp

Her website also contains a wealth of interviews (with recovering patients as well as scientists) and technical articles. Amy also has an excellent introductory video (88 min.) which has more on the practical implementation of the MP: _http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro

I would highly recommend watching the following 2 videos of Dr. Marshall’s recent presentations in China:

Keynote Presentation at the 2008 World Gene Congress http://www.vimeo.com/2585394

Clinical Seminar at West China Hospital, Chengdu http://www.vimeo.com/2599416

The MP Knowledge Base is currently under construction and, though not yet complete, has a lot of material for further research:
_http://mpkb.mp-dev.com/doku.php

Additional information, including links to Dr. Marshall’s peer-reviewed papers, is available at the Autoimmunity Research Foundation website:
_http://autoimmunityresearch.org/

Finally, you can register and ask questions at this site: _www.curemyth1.org

The MP is not a quick or necessarily easy fix, but it represents a paradigm shift in the treatment of most chronic degenerative diseases afflicting humanity today. I feel most blessed to have discovered it.

Kind regards,
rawtruth

"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of those walking on it." - Arabic proverb
 
Hi rawtruth,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, how they found the cass material, and how much of the work here they have read. Thanks.
 
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