jews

mugatea

Jedi Master
Hi,

Can someone clarify this for me. A jew is a person of jewish faith and no more, yeah? There is no genetic race that is jewish, right? I've been reading the controversy of zion, it's very good.

A clip form that book:

At that point, less than four centuries before our own generation, a significant mystery enters the story of Zion: why was the government set up in Poland? Up to that stage the annals reveal no trace of any large migration of Jews to Poland. The Jews who entered Spain with the Moors came from North Africa and when they left most of them returned thither or went to Egypt, Palestine, Italy, the Greek islands and Turkey. Other colonies had appeared in France, Germany, Holland and England and these were enlarged by the arrival among them of Jews from the Spanish Peninsula. There is no record that any substantial number of Spanish Jews went to Poland, or that any Jewish mass-migration to Poland had occurred at any earlier time.
Yet in the 1500’s, when the “centre” was set up in Poland, “a Jewish population of millions came into being there,” according to Dr. Kastein. But populations of millions do not suddenly “come into being.....

and

They had no Judahite blood at all (for that matter; Judahite blood must by this time have been almost extinct even among the Jews of Western Europe) and their forefathers had never known Judea, or any soil but that of Tartary.
These people were the Khazars, a Turco-Mongolian race which had been converted to Judaism in about the 7th century of our era.”



So if jews of today have no original jewish blood in them why are so many Jews so prominent in things like science and stuff?

Also when people talk about the apartied wall in Isreal it is in reference to imprisoning palestinians, but does anyone else think that it also being used to reintroduce the jewish ghetto into isreal and physically cut the jews of from the outside world?

The controversy is a must read. It seems that while the jews have been persecuted very badly its not been do so much by the gentiles as by their rulers and preists. With the rule of terror and similarities of the way the jews were ruled in the past there seems to be a clear resemblance into how americans are now being treated and controleld today by the same methods.


thanks

Jamie
 
Hi!

You will want to read material concerning the BalFour Agreement (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=balfour+agreement&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz) and also research information on the Israel Lobby.
ther are many disturbing facts concerning the lobby and the good ol USA and their (israel lobby) dual citizenship. Lotta the guys in the Powers that Be, group, have dual citizenship. its a legal move, that works for them- especially here in the nation of 'laws'.

As far as the human race has come, i dont really think ther are any more "pure" blood lines left, jewish, white indian, black, negro, or even holy. A blessing and a curse. everyone is mixxed up with everyone else, i think.

6 degrees of seperation.

I dont really think that knowing those other 6 people, would really change anything. After the internet, the polorization of groups of minds is the new '6 degrees'. where the Nazi's failed the Jews have taken the lead in human catastrophe, as far as Palestine goes.

Quit sad, and disheartening, for heaven's sake- they use Palestinians as Human Shields!



its just the status quo on psycopathy, kill kill and kill more. I have even read (on the net), that certain money jewish power people (law, govnmt, etc) actually supported good ol Adolf. I think, they reversed ther positon of support for adolf, and they had to stop him before ther were no more jews left.


but like u ask, being 'Jew' is a decision, it is not a bloodline, nor has it ever been.

God never said, : "Let there be Jewish people!!!"

nothing like light, or darkness

ROFL

Steven
 
what is a Jew?

probably one of the most controversial, presumptuous, ambiguous, misunderstood and hysterically propagandized questions of our time!
(not to mention illegal to question it)

um, I guess a simple answer is: "it depends who you ask".
or maybe... "nobody", or then again, "whoever says they are".

There is a genetic element to it, but it isn't straightforward - there are different genetic groups that are lumped together under the 'Jewish' umbrella, whilst other people who ALSO share these genetics are classified as NOT Jewish, and yet again there is the whole question of the religion itself, and the falsified/manipulated history and claims to land and inherited traditions. what a mess.

Yeah, 'Controversy of Zion' casts some light on the matter.
So, to some extent, does 'The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins' by Burton L Mack.
and of course, 'Secret History of the World' by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
 
mugatea,

to add a "simple" and "officialist" version of the answer to what sleepyvinny already said, it is custom (from talmudic law) that a jew is
a) one who is the son or daughter of a jewish mother, or
b) one whom an orthodox rabbi declares to be a jew.

beyond that, that question is in dispute even among rabbis for all what I know. the question gets hairy when one takes into account that many jews are arreligious: is any rabbi going to declare that these persons are not, or cease to be jews, in short, excomulgate these persons ?
 
thanks for your reply. It's very clear that the answers to the questions I asked are not as clear cut as I hoped. But its very interesting indeed. I look forward and am enjoying the process of learning about it.

thanks

jamie
 
There is a long section in 9/11: The Ultimate Truth about this. It's faster and easier to read than SHOTW.
 
There is also cassipedia http://www.cassiopedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Jew

I can recommend the book by Arthur Koestler called 'The Thirteenth Tribe' to add to the others recommended already. A very interesting read!
There is a thread here on that book: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2271

Happy reading!
 
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