How do people in bad environments balance their chakras and how is the incarnation process controlled?

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rinzler

A Disturbance in the Force
Let's take the Root chakra as an example:
(I will only take this one example of a chakra because if I talked about all seven it would me too much. I hope you get the point after reading this.)

The first chakra is associated with the following functions or behavioral characteristics:
  • Security, safety
  • Survival
  • Basic needs (food, sleep, shelter, self-preservation, etc.)
  • Physicality, physical identity and aspects of self
  • Grounding
  • Support and foundation for living our lives
Considering that billions of people live in poverty and are starving (Approximately 793 milion people are starving around the world, according to the U.N.) I think people here know best how bad it really is. I think it's also known that without the four chakras balanced you can't be harvested. Not to mention people in the developed world living in a complete illusion (Virtual reality, video games, media, social media etc...)

How are people supposed to be able to achieve anything in regards to spiritual work in this lifetime or any other lifetime on this planet or any other STS-Planet? (considering that there are some catastrophies already underway like catastrophic climate change, pole shift,wars etc...?)

If we go by that the amount of people harvested would always be a minority of the population. I think someone here once mentioned 15 percent and to me that is very generous considering that Venus was a STO-society and their harvest was six out of thirty meaning that only 20% of them graduated and the rest had to repeat third density. If we go on with that third density might stretch to a million years for the extremely slow learners(that seems reasonable, 20 percent is not bad considering the Pareot Principle). IMHO the harvest on earth will probably be less than 5 percent. That's just my estimation. Continually incarnating on STS-planets as an STO candidate seems cruel and unnecessary. Is it possible that that might happen?
So I guess the follow up question would be where exactly do people native to this earth repeat third density and can they chose? If yes, why and what determines on what kind of planet you can incarnate? On a STO-or STS-World? I think the odds of being harvested are much higher on an STO-planet obviously. Being stuck in the sinkhole of indifference what determines where exactly you go? Accumulated Karma? What if you have polarized succesfully but are out of balance with your chakras? Do you simply get to make the obvious thing? Does the higher self accept that?
I've heard that at some point you can consciously take control of the incarnation process. Is that true and if so how does one do that?

I feel like living in this reality is biased towards STS and any meaningful attempt towards STO is met with natural resistance. How do you go towards STO except by pure luck e.g. being born in the right environment? It is not just about polarizing but also about balancing onself. And how do you achieve that in this world? Even the small percentage let's say 5 percent are still going to be met with enourmous resistance.
I only mentioned this one chakra but if you take the others into account it becomes more and more obvious. What about the people that live their whole lives in captivity ? Do you know how many slaves there are around the world today?
There are at least 27 million slaves worldwide. (I have different sources(here is one. Just google it for yourself)
These people have no chance. Not a miniscule chance of changing anything. Why would you incarnate into that? The majority of this planet is suffering. The odds of being harvested are clearly against one's favor.
This world is nothing but a casino. Incarnating here is like playing Russian roulette.

Consider the following example:
Consider Jesus of Nazareth. Would his root chakra have been balanced if it wasn't for Joanna, the wife of Chuza who managed the household of Herad Antipas? This women belonged to the wealthy upper class and she gave him and his disciples all the money they needed. If it wasn't for her and the other women that followed and supported him financially he wouldn't be known today.
I think you can draw the conclusions yourself here.
Does the environment have the final say over whether your chakras are balanced or not or could someone be able to do that while living in the worst conditions possible?

So to summon up:
1) How do you balance your chakras in a bad environment (e.g you are living in a dangerous part of town but unable to move,...)? Is it possible at at all ?
Please don't say that it's better to try change one's environment. That is simply not possible for the majority of people. See natural resource distribution, place of birth, fincancial assets,parents,health issues etc.. I get that it's always good to try to having one's need met but that only works to a certain extant and most of the time it does not work at all. There are limits.

2) If it's not possible is it a better option to simply polarize as much as possible and avoid accumulating karma so to repeat third density on another STO-world under much better conditions? I assume that would be the case if you did that. Am I correct in assuming that?

3) How does the incarnation process work and how can you take control of it?

I have underlined and summarized my questions if someone is too lazy to read it all.
 
I forgot to add a question.
4) Is it possible to be harvested before the end of the cycle? Say you are on a third density planet and have polarized and balanced yourself enough to be harvested. Will you be harvested or do you have to wait until the cycle is over?

I think Ra mentioned that Genghis Khan and Rasputin have ascended with Khan joining the Orion Empire in 4th density. Does that mean it's possible to be ascend into 4th density before harvest?
 
The incarnation process is for that You can know Yourself and Others better. There are people who evoluate in incarnation process and some other's that i know like Carl Jung who i have feeling that no matter of lifetime they stay the same people.... :)
If You have to stay in bad environment... It's undepend how do You see environment... I mean what mean's bad environment...? I think all the places can have bad and good energy it's undepent the people with who You are.. I also stay sometimes with people who i don't want to. In that time is very important to have always clear intensions, because this is very special time on planeth Earth that even if someon's can be negative around Us is up to Us what we transfer to the person's to discharge the tension that the person can have. I alaways do it with a humor to show that other's may not be right . If You really want to do it good you will just do it, it's coming from the inside. I know that is very helfull from this forum to do the eriu eolas also helping a lot if You feel that You stay in bad environment. That the evil could not spread You need to sometimes stay quiet, but sometimes is to react , but calm :) you need to feel this.
Short story from the incarnation which i want to share with You is that my father died round about two and half years ago and after that time like three months ago was coming to my work a girl that she start to talk to me about her son is now two years old and she start to talk to me and i could feel that maybe i have a feeling that i have to do something here :) She come with a baby to the work, because i ask her to come :) Before they came on camera i saw a picture with her and her son ( my father's incarnation ) on the camera. it's just stopped for a moment and they were wore exactly like i some them on camera :) I could feel it's my father. Was very beautiful feeling. Last time i could even stay with him, becuase she called and she didn't have nobody to stay with baby :) We spend nice time together. I know he reconized me and i recognized him. doesn't matter if it's past life times or not the only thing is important is now, what we can change now and do the good things for other's if it's necessary , but now i ahve a feeling like is very necessary...
About the harvest we know that before wave they will come for those who choose to go with them. For me they can even take You in Your dreams if You let, i always stay very quiet like i will be not here, but i'm :) If You stay low with energy, because You lost with bad enviromnent i'm charging while i'm dreaming by one chakra :) Greetings
 
Hi rinzler. You ask some interesting questions. We normally don't think in terms of chakras on this forum, instead preferring to talk about the the nervous system, and genetic/astral body and so on, but I think I can respond in your terms that will be helpful.

I think in your post you're making some assumptions about chakras and what role they play in spiritual advancement. You sort of describe them like plants, which need certain amounts of sunlight, water, etc in order to function properly. And yeah those are things that chakras need. But another need they have is stress, so they can deal with adversity and function in spite of shortcomings. This is tied in more closely with the life lesson plan.

The purpose of incarnation is to learn lessons, and the chakras like the organism itself is just a means toward this end. People plan the types of lessons they will face in 3D in the contemplation zone in 5D. And such a life may be only to work on one or two particular lessons, which may not require one to have security or a consistent food source. You also have to look at the role stress plays in the life of living things. Living things need stressors (called eustress) to grow stronger, and this applies to chakras as well. So the goal of an incarnational experience could be to train one to deal with experiencing fear or hunger. It could also be karma for things they've afflicted others with in previous lifetimes, to learn the consequences of ones own actions on a 5D level. If your life was totally adversity-free and you received all the physical security, nourishment, and emotional and mental stimulation you needed, there would be no stress to test you and develop your ability to deal with life.

Over a series of lifetimes you build up lessons until you learn almost everything you can in 3D, and then you advance to 4D. The C's said that some monks who disappeared forever in flashes of light achieved 100% STO polarity, and so have no further lessons on earth transitioned directly. People who graduate after exceeding 51% STO polarity still have some lessons on service to others, so they don't vanish in a flash of light, but I think in the next life they are able to choose a 4D incarnation where the lessons are more advanced.

The afterlife thread talks a lot more about 5D and the contemplation of previous lives and lesson profiles and the incarnational process if you're interested.

I feel like living in this reality is biased towards STS and any meaningful attempt towards STO is met with natural resistance. How do you go towards STO except by pure luck e.g. being born in the right environment? It is not just about polarizing but also about balancing onself. And how do you achieve that in this world? Even the small percentage let's say 5 percent are still going to be met with enourmous resistance. I only mentioned this one chakra but if you take the others into account it becomes more and more obvious. What about the people that live their whole lives in captivity ? Do you know how many slaves there are around the world today?
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Resistance can be a good thing. Individuals intent on learning a certain lesson will receive the resources they need (whether materially, emotionally, or in terms of knowledge) to overcome resistance. We incarnate where we do because we choose the best environment for our lessons available. A decision to move toward STO is not about luck. It is entirely about the choices we make day-to-day, and our own attitude toward life and the universe and what it asks of us every day we wake up. And everyone makes those choices, every day.

Being a slave would be a tremendous learning environment actually, for certain types of lessons. Most particularly the lesson of how to deal with unreasonable people in positions of power over you. That's a very good thing to learn in a 3D existence. Castanada's The Fire From Within talks about these dynamics, and how dealing with petty tyrants and material adversity in our own life is what in fact trains us for spiritual advancement and dealing with higher realms. Some people believe the opposite: that mastering the higher things compensates for an inability to deal with the mundane and material and base in life. But that is a lie.

Your notion of environment is overly macroscopic and sociopolitical I think. Changing your environment can mean something as small as cleaning your room, finding a new job, avoiding a toxic friend of yours, adjusting your schedule, or networking more in your current neighborhood to learn more ways to attain your goals. It could mean selecting different dumpsters to look for food in, or doing so on a different schedule.

There are always parts of your life you're not able to control, but the one thing you can always control is your attitude. That is the philosophy of stoicism, which was (and is) popular for a reason.
 
whitecoast said:
Hi rinzler. You ask some interesting questions. We normally don't think in terms of chakras on this forum, instead preferring to talk about the the nervous system, and genetic/astral body and so on, but I think I can respond in your terms that will be helpful.

I think in your post you're making some assumptions about chakras and what role they play in spiritual advancement. You sort of describe them like plants, which need certain amounts of sunlight, water, etc in order to function properly. And yeah those are things that chakras need. But another need they have is stress, so they can deal with adversity and function in spite of shortcomings. This is tied in more closely with the life lesson plan.

The purpose of incarnation is to learn lessons, and the chakras like the organism itself is just a means toward this end. People plan the types of lessons they will face in 3D in the contemplation zone in 5D. And such a life may be only to work on one or two particular lessons, which may not require one to have security or a consistent food source. You also have to look at the role stress plays in the life of living things. Living things need stressors (called eustress) to grow stronger, and this applies to chakras as well. So the goal of an incarnational experience could be to train one to deal with experiencing fear or hunger. It could also be karma for things they've afflicted others with in previous lifetimes, to learn the consequences of ones own actions on a 5D level. If your life was totally adversity-free and you received all the physical security, nourishment, and emotional and mental stimulation you needed, there would be no stress to test you and develop your ability to deal with life.

Over a series of lifetimes you build up lessons until you learn almost everything you can in 3D, and then you advance to 4D. The C's said that some monks who disappeared forever in flashes of light achieved 100% STO polarity, and so have no further lessons on earth transitioned directly. People who graduate after exceeding 51% STO polarity still have some lessons on service to others, so they don't vanish in a flash of light, but I think in the next life they are able to choose a 4D incarnation where the lessons are more advanced.

The afterlife thread talks a lot more about 5D and the contemplation of previous lives and lesson profiles and the incarnational process if you're interested.



Resistance can be a good thing. Individuals intent on learning a certain lesson will receive the resources they need (whether materially, emotionally, or in terms of knowledge) to overcome resistance. We incarnate where we do because we choose the best environment for our lessons available. A decision to move toward STO is not about luck. It is entirely about the choices we make day-to-day, and our own attitude toward life and the universe and what it asks of us every day we wake up. And everyone makes those choices, every day.

Being a slave would be a tremendous learning environment actually, for certain types of lessons. Most particularly the lesson of how to deal with unreasonable people in positions of power over you. That's a very good thing to learn in a 3D existence. Castanada's The Fire From Within talks about these dynamics, and how dealing with petty tyrants and material adversity in our own life is what in fact trains us for spiritual advancement and dealing with higher realms. Some people believe the opposite: that mastering the higher things compensates for an inability to deal with the mundane and material and base in life. But that is a lie.

Your notion of environment is overly macroscopic and sociopolitical I think. Changing your environment can mean something as small as cleaning your room, finding a new job, avoiding a toxic friend of yours, adjusting your schedule, or networking more in your current neighborhood to learn more ways to attain your goals. It could mean selecting different dumpsters to look for food in, or doing so on a different schedule.

There are always parts of your life you're not able to control, but the one thing you can always control is your attitude. That is the philosophy of stoicism, which was (and is) popular for a reason.
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And I want to add the following to this very complete answer.

You have read a lot and you have understood a lot too. However, driving a car is not enough with theory. It takes practice, it is essential to "drive."

From a certain "moment", driving the car is something easy and natural, the theoretical has found its "application".

Then you know how to drive, "you" understand that "you know" to drive.🤔
 
whitecoast said:
There are always parts of your life you're not able to control, but the one thing you can always control is your attitude. That is the philosophy of stoicism, which was (and is) popular for a reason.
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Thanks for the interesting thread. There's one thing that I could add which comes from my reading of Stephen Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Successful People. He says that we can change our attitude and our behavior in response to certain situations and that requires will to do. But, what if we are informed by wrong principles or a wrong map of the "territory"? Then every change in the way we approach things will not matter, because it is still fundamentally not in keeping with the "right" values and judgment. He says that we need to have a good grasp of our values and principles to be able to make decisions and operate in daily life. It's super practical and doesn't involve complex esoteric subjects like chakras, but it could possible have a balancing effect nonetheless. Here's a quote from him that explains it better:

The Power of a Paradigm

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People embody many of the fundamental principles of human effectiveness. These habits are basic; they are primary. They represent the internalization of correct principles upon which enduring happiness and success are based.
But before we can really understand these Seven Habits, we need to understand our own "paradigms" and how to make a "paradigm shift."
Both the Character Ethic and the Personality Ethic are examples of social paradigms. The word paradigm comes from the Greek. It was originally a scientific term, and is more commonly used today to mean a model, theory, perception, assumption or frame of reference. In the more general sense, it's the way we "see" the world--not in terms of our visual sense of sight, but in terms of perceiving, understanding, interpreting.
For our purposes, a simple way to understand paradigms is to see them as maps. We all know that "the map is not the territory." A map is simply an explanation of certain aspects of the territory. That's exactly what a paradigm is. It is a theory, an explanation, or model of something else.
Suppose you wanted to arrive at a specific location in central Chicago. A street map of the city would be a great help to you in reaching your destination. But suppose you were given the wrong map. Through a printing error, the map labeled "Chicago" was actually a map of Detroit. Can you imagine the frustration, the ineffectiveness of trying to reach your destination?
You might work on your behavior--you could try harder, be more diligent, double your speed. But your efforts would only succeed in getting you to the wrong place faster.
You might work on your attitude--you could think more positively. You still wouldn't get to the right place, but perhaps you wouldn't care. Your attitude would be so positive, you'd be happy wherever you were.
The point is, you'd still be lost. The fundamental problem has nothing to do with your behavior or your attitude. It has everything to do with having a wrong map.
If you have the right map of Chicago, then diligence becomes important, and when you encounter frustrating obstacles along the way, then attitude can make a real difference. But the first and most important requirement is the accuracy of the map.
Each of us has many, many maps in our head, which can be divided into two main categories: maps of the way things are, or realities, and maps ofthe way things should be, or values. We interpret everything we experience through these mental maps. We seldom question their accuracy; we;re usually even unaware that we have them. We simply assume that the way we see things is the way they really are or the way they should be.
And our attitudes and behaviors grow out of those assumptions. The way we see things is the source of the way we think and the way we act.
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So, maybe the negative effects of our living and working environments can be dealt with much better, if we have a better map to navigate with, and that includes the map of the values which we hold dear and that inform our conscience. Maybe that's why people want a clear conscience, that they may make the correct decisions for themselves and for others without being clouded by the opinions and expectations of others? It's good and somewhat comforting to know that we can be guided by our own internal sense of "right" -- and not be blown around by the things and people around us that constantly clamor for our attention.

There's also a MindMatters podcast about the book which might be of some interest:
www.sott.net

MindMatters: Self-Help Without The Shallowness: The Hidden Depths of Stephen R. Covey's 7 Habits

It's the book you've heard about for years, but probably never read - especially if you have an aversion to shallow self-help books promising success, influence, power and money. But Stephen R. Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People is no...
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