"Hawaii crash aviation, possibly involving military"

Hi all!

Regarding predictions we've got in December 3rd, 1994 Cs session:

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Ukraine explosion, chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash, aviation, possibly involving military.
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I'm aware that in session of 19 July 2014 it was basically concluded that 'aviation crash' relates to two Malaysia MHxxx mishaps, but we have just got exactly that prediction materialization:

US marine dies, 21 injured in Osprey crash-landing at Hawaii base

Initial headline in my twitter feed was: "BREAKING: Military aircraft crashes at Bellows base in Hawaii". And that language caught my attention.
 

Laura

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MrEightFive said:
Hi all!

Regarding predictions we've got in December 3rd, 1994 Cs session:

[...]
Ukraine explosion, chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash, aviation, possibly involving military.
[...]

I'm aware that in session of 19 July 2014 it was basically concluded that 'aviation crash' relates to two Malaysia MHxxx mishaps, but we have just got exactly that prediction materialization:

US marine dies, 21 injured in Osprey crash-landing at Hawaii base

Initial headline in my twitter feed was: "BREAKING: Military aircraft crashes at Bellows base in Hawaii". And that language caught my attention.

Teaches us not to draw conclusions too soon. That means some others may really be in store and some of them are doozies!
 

ScioAgapeOmnis

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[...]Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military. More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto, Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence. "Time" is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction of California economy as people begin mass exodus. Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside. [...]
Maybe that's a liberal interpretation but I wonder if "after 1st of year" could mean "after year 1". If 2014 is "year zero" then 2015 is "year 1", so it would be interesting if California is "shaken up" this year in one way or another. I also had this thought that "year zero" is only obvious in retrospect. Like, typical calendar systems don't have 0 year, they seem to start at year 1. So perhaps year 0 is like a reset point, where certain precursors occur leading to dramatic consequences in the years that follow. Maybe the ukraine "explosion", which was mentioned before the "1st of year" sentence, is exactly what happened in "year zero" as is now apparent, and the dramatic consequences (cosmic/earth changes and geopolitical alike) come to fruition in year 1 and after?

It was really fun asking the C's for a word that may describe the year, I wonder how they'd characterize 2015 (or 1)?
 

Mememe45

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Maybe the assumption that the 5 years started in the middle of 2009 is incorrect.
It could be that 5 more years means , 2010 , 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and therefore year zero could be 2015.
It is noteworthy that the signs are manifesting this year.
 

BHelmet

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It is already after the 1st of 2015 - so I figure any time within the next 12 months. The question is this: will the earthquakes trigger the economic crash and resulting chaos or will the economic crash and resultant human chaos trigger the earthquakes? Either way, within a year, it should be a zoo. And, of course, time is indefinite and events will unfold however they do. "More" California seismic activity is kind of vague. Any would be more, given the history, but more could also mean there will be some earthquakes this year AND then more after 1st of 2016.
 

Rennie564

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I don't post often here. I have been reading as much as I can though. Today my teenage daughter brought an article to me that she found and I immediately remembered this post.

It has to do with Hawaii crash, Russian planes, magnetic anomalies, etc. _http://www.eutimes.net/2014/06/russia-issues-grim-report-on-north-american-magnetic-anomaly/

I'm not so certain about the expanding earth theory, but if it holds any merit...what expands could possibly contract? "ocean floors subside" I have a thought that's right there on the edge of my mind. Something to do with this.
 
[...] Hawaii crash, aviation, possibly involving military.

This fits still better:
RT: 12 feared dead in military helicopter collision off Hawaii coast

RT said:
The Hawaii Coast Guard is carrying out a search and rescue operation after two military aircraft reportedly collided in mid-air and then ditched in the water north of the island of Oahu.

The Marine Corps can confirm there is an active search and rescue for 2 CH-53's of the coast of Oahu. pic.twitter.com/3eIHloJYOx
— U.S. Marines (@USMC) January 15, 2016

The two helicopters were from the nearby Kaneohe Bay US Marine Corps Air Station, and each had six people on board, CBS News reports, citing the Coast Guard.

Rescuers arrived to the scene just after midnight, after multiple reports of the crash, and found debris, an empty life raft and fire on the water, some 2.5km from the coastal settlement of Haleiwa.

Coast guard, HFD and navy searching for potentially 12 people after a marine corps. helicopter crash in Hawaii. #hawaiinews
— Ellen Minkin (@EllenMinkin) January 15, 2016

No survivors or bodies have been located so far.

The search and rescue operation could be hampered by waves forecasted to reach up to 12 meters (40 feet) high - predicted to be the largest swell of this year's season.

But whatever :rolleyes:
 

Joe

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Certainly does fit better. Here's the full list that that prediction came from. Wonder what else is still "pending".

Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military. More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto, Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence. "Time" is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction of California economy as people begin mass exodus. Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside.... Gas explosions this winter in NE
 

Laura

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Yeah, it does fit better. And considering all the other stuff going on, this may be "it".

The rest of that set of predictions:

Gas explosions this winter in NE United States, Texas and other. Supernova and unusual weather all over. Memphis feels tremors. Minneapolis banking scandal relates to mysterious Nordic covenant. Evangelical sexual tryst exposed. Gold is discovered in California after one of the quakes. UFOs dramatic increase and Gulf Breeze gets swarmed, becomes massive "Mecca". Laura sees much more UFO activity. Huge wave of UFO activity. All manner and origins. Just you wait, it will give you chills and that feeling in the pit of your stomach. Many aliens will appear and we will be visible too. Think of it as a convention. All must awaken to this. It is happening right now. The whole populace will play individual roles according to their individual frequencies. This is only the beginning. Just you wait "Henry Higgins," just you wait!

We've sure been having the gas explosions all over. Weird weather...

As for the supernova part:

http://www.sott.net/article/310306-Ultra-bright-supernova-is-a-stellar-mystery

Ultra bright supernova is a stellar mystery

A network of small, ground-based telescopes hunting the night-time skies for transient supernovas fished out a whopper -- a one-of-a-kind cosmic explosion that at its peak blasted out more light than 50 times all the stars in the Milky Way galaxy.

The object, which takes its name, ASASSN-15lh from the All-Sky Automated Survey for SuperNovae, was first spotted on June 14, 2015. A week later, astronomer Subo Dong, with the Kavli Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics at Peking University, was looking at the object's spectra, a chemical breakdown of its light, and realized something strange was going on.

The measurements were so different, the survey's automated software didn't even recognize it as a supernova, Dong wrote in an email to Discovery News.

"We thought about various non-supernova, exotic scenarios, but none seemed to work," Dong said.

Working with colleagues at observatories worldwide, Dong started thinking the object may belong to a rare class of so-called superluminous supernovae, a suspicion bolstered by follow-up measurements taken by the 10-meter South African Large Telescope .

"Seeing the SALT spectrum was the moment we knew for sure that we were on to something big," Dong said.

ASASSN-15lh is located about 3.8 billion light-years away, but is so bright that if were as close as Sirius, a bright star 8.6 light-years away from Earth, the supernova would appear to be almost as bright as the sun.

It is 200 times more powerful than the average supernova and more than twice as bright as any supernova previously found.

Scientists are virtually in the dark about what triggered the blast. One theory is that a dense, rapidly spinning neutron star, known as a magenetar, is powering the supernova. The star would have to be spinning at least 1,000 times a second, a speed that challenges the laws of physics. It also would have to be nearly 100 percent efficient at converting its spin energy into light, another theoretical limit.

Another option is that ASASSN-15lh is powered by some nuclear reactions associated with a supermassive black hole at the center of its host galaxy, but scientists don't know of any such phenomenon, nor have they pinpointed the object's precise location in its galaxy. Additional information is expected this year from Hubble Space Telescope observations.

"The Hubble observations are meant to show whether or not the event happened right at the nucleus of the host galaxy, or whether it is offset from the center. If it is offset, this would rule out the interpretation of this event as somehow related to the host galaxy's central supermassive black hole -- assuming it has one, as most massive galaxies do," Ohio State astronomer Todd Thompson wrote in an email to Discovery News.

"What kind of event from a supermassive black hole could produce such an event? We don't know since we've never seen something like it, but it has been suggested that it might be a so-called 'tidal disruption event' -- a bright explosion arising when a star gets torn apart and then eaten by a supermassive black hole. The problem is that we've seen these events before, and they don't look like ASASSN-15lh. In particular, most stars are composed of mostly hydrogen and helium, and yet the spectra of ASASSN-15lh show no signs of either," Thompson said.

The supernova's host galaxy itself presents another puzzle. Most superluminous supernovae are found in small, dwarf galaxy where lots of stars are forming. ASASSN-15lh, in contrast, appears to be in a large, but relatively quiescent galaxy about three times more massive than the Milky Way.

Scientists have eliminated the possibility that the supernova appears brighter than it actually is due to any magnifying effects of intervening galaxies, a phenomena known as gravitational lensing.

"The good news is that ASASSN-15lh is bright, so it is relatively easy to get high-quality observations. Many groups of astronomers are using some of the most advanced telescopes, ground- and space-based, to study ASASSN-15lh. I am sure that in the near future, we will understand it much better," Dong said.

Apparently you can see it with binoculars. This video will show you where to find it.

http://news.discovery.com/space/videos/whats-a-supernova-and-where-can-i-see-one-video.htm
 

Rennie564

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http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/12/28/earthquake-near-memphis/77969940/

2.5-magnitude earthquake happened near Memphis Monday morning.

The earthquake happened around 2 a.m. about 16 kilimeters west of Millington, Tenn., WMC-TV reported.

That was on December 28, 2015
 

angelburst29

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Some Marines from fatal North Shore copter crash recovered
http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaking-news/some-marines-from-fatal-north-shore-copter-crash-recovered/

Some of the 12 Hawaii Marines who perished in an apparent night-time fiery crash of two big CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters at sea off Waimea Bay Jan. 14 have been recovered, the Corps confirmed.

A salvage and recovery operation may make progress today, meanwhile, with the USNS Salvor expected to head out to the debris field with specialized dive equipment.

“The families have been given the information (about remains recovery),” said Capt. Tim Irish, a Marine Corps spokesman, declining to provide any more details.

“We have a very detailed plan in place to handle any of our brother Marines as we retrieve them and then bring them back to their families, wherever they would like, in a dignified fashion,” Irish said today in a phone interview.

The fallen were members of Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadron 463 at Kaneohe Bay. Some family members of the deceased Marines have been out to Oahu from the mainland. The crash was among the deadliest military noncombat accidents in Hawaii history.

A debris field was found on the seafloor in about 300 feet of water two miles offshore — a depth that is making a recovery more complicated, the Marines said. Navy Personnel Command said Navy divers perform ocean, harbor and combat/expeditionary salvage operations in up to 300 feet of water.

Divers from Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 1 needed equipment from Key West, Fla. for use on the 255-foot rescue and salvage ship Salvor. Rough seas also pushed back the departure of the Salvor to the site of the crash from Saturday to today, the military said.

Irish said the specialized equipment now on hand includes the ability to mix gases for dives to deeper depths. At the same time, divers have been training to acclimate to those depths, he said.

“As I understand the systematic aspect of it, you wouldn’t just want to start diving at 280 (feet) just to discover you are going to have to dive past 300 and need that training and acclimatization gear anyway,” Irish said. “So that was just another piece that had to fall into place.”

A second Navy ship, the 226-foot fleet ocean tug USNS Navajo, also is expected to assist, Irish said.

“Salvage and recovery is being done as efficiently as possible,” he said. It also is being done with “a goal of the aircraft mishap board being able to figure out exactly what did happen and then of course not risking any lives in the effort to conduct salvage and recovery.”

The Coast Guard said the Salvor was to use sonar and a remotely operated vehicle on board to locate the aircraft.

“Salvor does have a crane that could pull the aircraft out of the water, but no decision has been made for that operation,” Sarah Burford, a spokeswoman for the Navy’s Military Sealift Command, said in an e-mail on Saturday. “The first step is to get the ship out to the site and to get the wreckage mapped, then a decision will be made as to how the recovery operation will proceed.”

The III Marine Expeditionary Force in Okinawa, Japan, the higher headquarters for Marine Corps Base Hawaii, said upwards of 80 personnel will be supporting the recovery and salvage operations, including debris field survey and dive system preparation.

1st Lt. Joseph Butterfield, a spokesman for the command, said about 40 personnel are supporting from MDSU-1; 26 civil mariners make up the crew of the Salvor; and 10 Marines are supporting with shoreline search and investigations.

“We would like to express our gratitude for ongoing support to recovery and salvage operations. We thank everyone for their contributions,” Butterfield said in an e-mail.

Six Marines were aboard each aircraft during the training accident. One instructor pilot was paired with a student pilot, and two instructor crew chiefs were paired with two students. The training involved the use of night-vision goggles and a simulated scenario meant to practice loading and moving troops.
 

Skyalmian

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[url=http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/08/16/breaking-news/coast-guard-hfd-search-for-downed-aircraft-off-kaena-point]Army helicopter with 5 on board crashes off Kaena Point[/url] said:
The U.S. Coast Guard and the Honolulu Fire Department are searching this morning for five crew members of an Army Black Hawk helicopter that went down off Oahu’s Kaena Point late Tuesday.

Honolulu Fire spokesman Capt. David Jenkins said firefighters on a rescue boat are currently working with the Army to recover debris after fire rescue crews reported spotting fuselage and a helmet at about 6:17 a.m.

Coast Guard officials in Honolulu said they received a call at 10:08 p.m. from Wheeler Army Airfield stating that they lost communications with one of their UH-60 Black Hawk air crews. The Coast Guard launched a rescue operation and issued an urgent marine broadcast.

“A debris field was spotted near Kaena Point by the Coast Guard Hercules and Army Black Hawk aircrews at 11:28 p.m. Tuesday. Responders are currently searching for the five missing aircrewmen,” the Coast Guard said in a news release early this morning.

Two Black Hawk crews were conducting training between Kaena Point and Dillingham Airfield at the time communications were lost, Coast Guard officials said.

HFD was called at 12:10 a.m. to assist the Coast Guard. An HFD spokesman said they had four units responding, including a rescue boat, in a sea and shoreline search.

Firefighters and Honolulu police were at Haleiwa Harbor where HFD has set up a command center before dawn.

The Coast Guard’s responding units from Oahu include an HC-130 Hercules airplane; an MH-65 Dolphin helicopter; the Coast Guard Cutter Ahi, which is an 87-foot patrol boat; and a 45-foot Response Boat. A UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crew from Wheeler is also assisting.

The Coast Guard said weather conditions at the search scene included 11 mph winds with 2-foot seas.

Lt. Col. Curtis Kellogg, spokesman of the 25th Infantry Division, said two UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters from the 25th Combat Aviation Brigade were involved in a routine night training mission Tuesday night off of Kaena Point when the second helicopter lost radio and visual contact with the first helicopter.

The first helicopter was reported missing at about 9:30 p.m. The Army, Marine Corps and the Coast Guard conducted an immediate search.

Coast Guard Petty Officer 2nd Class Tara Molle said, “We are working closely with our partners to saturate that entire area.”

The UH-60 Black Hawk is a four-bladed, twin-engine utility helicopter manufactured for the Army by Sikorsky Aircraft starting in the 1970s.

This is the second nighttime military helicopter crash off Oahu in less than two years.

On Jan. 14, 2016, 12 Marines were killed after two CH-53 Super Stallion helicopters collided off of Oahu’s North Shore. The crash occurred at about 10:40 p.m., during a training mission. One of the two helicopters had accelerated to catch up to the first helicopter just as the first helicopter made an abrupt left into the second helicopter’s path.

Six Marines in each aircraft were killed upon impact. The collision occurred at an altitude of 1,500 feet, almost two miles off of the North Shore.
 
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