Has Queen Nefertiti been found behind King Tut's tomb?

Researchers to scan King Tutankhamun's tomb in search for Nefertiti’s remains

http://tass.ru/en/science/866404

The search follows claims by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves that King Tutankhamun's tomb discovered by English archaeologist Howard Carter in 1922 may contain hidden chambers

CAIRO, April 1. /TASS/. Archeologists will start final scanning of King Tutankhamun's tomb in the Valley of Kings in a bid to find the resting place of legendary Queen Nefertiti, the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities said on Thursday.

The search follows claims by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves that King Tutankhamun's tomb discovered by English archaeologist Howard Carter in 1922 may contain hidden chambers.

Reeves also says that the tomb was most likely built for a queen, rather than a king.

A decision to open the tomb will be made upon the completion of radiological research and infrared thermography tests.

Previous scans of Tutankhamun's tomb carried out by Japanese experts last fall revealed the presence of additional rooms in the pharaoh's chamber.

The results of Thursday’s scan will be announced by Egyptian Antiquities Minister Mamdouh el-Damaty at a news conference in Luxor on April 1.

The resting place of Queen Nefertiti, the Great Royal Wife of Tutankhamun's father Akhenaten, has never been found. Its location remains one of the greatest mysteries of Ancient Egypt.
 
Egyptians get more scans of secret rooms behind Tut's tomb

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/9/40/198475/Heritage/Ancient-Egypt/Egyptians-get-more-scans-of-secret-rooms-behind-Tu.aspx

Egypt's archaeologists announced Friday they completed more extensive scanning of the two recently discovered hidden chambers behind King Tutankhamun's tomb in the Valley of the Kings as part of a quest that some hope could ultimately lead to finding Queen Nefertiti's remains.
Antiquities Minister Khaled El-Enany told reporters gathered at the famed site on the western bank of the Nile River, opposite the southern city of Luxor, that experts worked for 11 hours overnight to obtain 40 scans of five different levels of the area behind Tutankhamun's burial chamber.

More scans will follow at the end of April, he said, and invited archaeologists from all over the world to come to Cairo in early May to examine the findings.

The scans are part of a quest for the remains of Queen Nefertiti and could answer the question whether her mummy lies behind the false walls in the Luxor complex.

British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves said he still believes Tut's tomb is "simply the outer elements of a larger tomb" belonging to Nefertiti.

The discovery made last month that the hidden rooms behind King Tut's tomb could contain metal or organic material could shine new light on one of ancient Egypt's most turbulent times, and Reeves has theorized that Nefertiti might be inside.

Others have speculated that the new chambers could contain the tomb of a member of Tutankhmun's family, not necessarily Nefertiti, who was one of the wives of Tutankhmun's father, the Pharoah Akhenaten, but is not believed to be Tut's mother.

Reeves told reporters Friday at the Valley of the Kings that the overnight scanning provided "the most detailed data" so far on the secret chambers.

He has speculated that Tutankhamun, who died at age 19, may have been rushed into an outer chamber of what was originally Nefertiti's tomb.

"I believe and I still believe" that the King Tut's tomb is "simply the outer elements of a larger tomb that is of Nefertiti," he said, repeating his assertion about the ancient queen whose 3,300-year-old bust on display in Berlin is one of the most famous symbols of ancient Egypt and classical beauty.

The discovery of the hidden chambers has ignited massive interest among the archaeological community and beyond. It could also renew excitement in Egypt's antiquities and help reinvigorate the country's flagging tourism industry.

Tourism has been hit hard in Egypt in recent years by political violence, an insurgency in the northern Sinai Peninsula, and persistent attacks since the 2013 overthrow of divisive Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.


New scanning needed before opening King Tutankhamun's tomb to find Nefertiti’s remains

http://tass.ru/en/society/866674

The search follows claims by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves that King Tutankhamun's tomb discovered by English archaeologist Howard Carter in 1922 may contain hidden chambers

CAIRO, April 1. /TASS/. Additional scanning of King Tutankhamun's tomb in the Valley of Kings is needed to determine if the resting place also contains the remains of legendary Queen Nefertiti, Egypt's Antiquities Minister Khaled El-Enany said on Friday.

"In late April we will conduct the final fourth scanning with additional technologies, then we will consider opening the back walls of the tomb," the minister said.

The third scanning took place on March 31. According to former Egyptian Antiquities Minister Mamdouh el-Damaty, the researches received lots of information and need a week to study it.

The search follows claims by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves that King Tutankhamun's tomb discovered by English archaeologist Howard Carter in 1922 may contain hidden chambers.

Reeves also says that the tomb was most likely built for a queen, rather than a king.

A decision to open the tomb will be made upon the completion of radiological research and infrared thermography tests.

Previous scans of Tutankhamun's tomb carried out by Japanese experts last fall revealed the presence of additional rooms in the pharaoh's chamber.

The resting place of Queen Nefertiti, the Great Royal Wife of Tutankhamun's father Akhenaten, has never been found. Its location remains one of the greatest mysteries of Ancient Egypt.
 
Laura said:
Well, the suspense is killing me!

I actually heard an egyptologist on RT saying that the reason for the slow progress of the operations is because the Egyptian government wants to extend the suspense as long as possible in case nothing revealing is discovered. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
 
Egyptology was my second passion after I gave up on my childhood idea to become a paleontologist. For a number of years, in my early teens, I was sort of obsessed with old egypt and tried to study everything about it, that I could get my hands on. At that point everything I read and studied was based on the mainstream Egyptology view of old egypt.

At one point when I was about 14, I went alone to egypt with the local evangelic priest and his study group. I saw many of the major sites there, up and down the Nile. It is impressive, no doubt about that.

The Valley of the Kings is quite astounding too and Tut's grave is one of the smallest there. In retrospect I'm sort of glad that I did not follow through with the idea to become an Egyptologist. Most Egyptologist are very dogmatic (or rather become very dogmatic), righteous "scientists". The sheer number of hard facts they have to ignore, to keep up their mainstream view on egypt, is quite astounding. So I'm happy now that I never went down that road.

At one point during my obsession with egypt, I came across a book that challenged many ideas and facts about it. I read it and was pretty certain that the guy must be making up that stuff, like artifacts that shouldn't be there. So I brushed it aside and only many years later I realized that most of the things he presented there, were indeed real and very challenging to the mainstream view.

Having said that, in Tut's grave you (normal people) can not go into the chamber, where the scans are now being conducted (at least it was like that when I was there).

Recent developments at the chamber are quite interesting. Now they claim that new scans show no hidden chambers:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/160509-king-tut-tomb-chambers-radar-archaeology/
http://www.livescience.com/54708-nefertiti-missing-no-chambers-in-king-tut-tomb.html

New "independent" scans have just been conducted and the real experts who conducted the scans now, say they couldn't find anything of what Watanabe claimed he found in his scans.

“I tell you, everybody I talked to who is in the GPR business just rolled their eyes and said, ‘There’s nothing here at all,’” Lawrence Conyers, the author of Ground-Penetrating Radar for Archaeology, said. A number of experts said that radar can’t distinguish “organic” material, as Watanabe claimed.

They say that Watanabe uses old outdated technology and isn't very willing to share how he conducts his research data with other scientists. Watanabe is said to have been "too enthusiastic" about his preliminary results. Watanabe claims that the technology he uses can also sense metallic and organic objects.

On the other hand Izumi Shimada, an anthropologist at Southern Illinois University who worked with Watanabe in the past, said that he has always been a controversial figure in Japan. But further he says this about Watanabe:

“Maybe he uses his personal experience more than relying on software or cutting-edge technology,” Shimada said. “However good the software is, it’s still a human interpretation of what you see on the monitor. There is a great deal of subjectivity.He said that Watanabe has a history of success: “He has worked in many archaeological settings, and he has found things that archaeologists were looking for and that they hadn’t been able to find.”

Shimada also said that Watanabe has a tendency to become “too enthusiastic” about preliminary results. He noted that Watanabe isn’t an academic, with a background originally in industry. Nevertheless, Shimada decided to enlist Watanabe’s services because “there was no doubt that he has worked in a most diverse range of settings.” They collaborated for more than a decade on the northern coast of Peru, where Watanabe’s radar helped Shimada carry out a series of extremely successful excavations of tombs from the Sicán culture.

When informed of the contradictory radar results from Tut’s tomb, and the fact that other specialists were questioning Watanabe’s findings, Shimada said, “I don’t think I heard about the cases of his predictions being wrong like that.”

So either Watanabe’s results are really over hyped and/or wrong, or the authorities want to control what is going on there. Wouldn't be the first time the high priest of mainstream Egyptology do something like that.

Hawass says this:

After claiming that radar has never led to a single discovery in Egypt, Hawass said, “We have to stop this media business, because there is nothing to publish. There is nothing to publish today or yesterday.”

These new scans were carried out under the supervision of "National Geographic Society". In the articles above, we can read this interesting bit of information about the society and its agreements with Egypt's antiquities ministry:

Radar scans conducted by a National Geographic team have found that there are no hidden chambers in Tutankhamun's tomb, disproving a claim that the secret grave of Queen Nefertiti lurks behind the walls.

"If we had a void, we should have a strong reflection," Dean Goodman, a geophysicist at GPR-Slice software told National Geographic News, which published a feature on the research. "But it just doesn't exist."

Live Science contacted Goodman about the research. Goodman said that though he prepared a response, a nondisclosure agreement with the National Geographic Society meant that he needed the society's permission to release that statement.

The society refused this permission, sending a statement to Live Science this morning (May 10), explaining that the society's agreement with Egypt's antiquities ministry prevents it from granting media access.

For me it looks like something stinks there. The high priests of mainstream history might be afraid what could be discovered there. I could be wrong though.
 
Pashalis said:
For me it looks like something stinks there. The high priests of mainstream history might be afraid what could be discovered there. I could be wrong though.

I wanted to be an archaeologist when I was a kid (thank you Indiana Jones). I agree that the situation is fishy. Egyptologists love to control information in a way that suits they fantasy. Seeing the infamous priest Zahi Hawwass involved in the cover up is not astonishing. If History is already a mess, but Egyptology is as far I can see is an utterly bogus science.
 
What makes me suspicious about this is not only the involvement of Hawass, but also the fact they had everyone hyped up about the possibility of two additional chambers and Nefertiti's resting place, and then suddenly take it all back, with statements controlled by non-disclosure agreements...basically saying "nothing to see here folks, move along!"
 
Finding Nefertiti: Tut's Tomb Examined Again in Search of Queen's Secret Chamber

https://sputniknews.com/environment/201702151050715195-nefertiti-lost-tomb-hunt/

Archaeologists and physicists from the University of Turin started a new survey of the walls of King Tutankhamun’s tomb, which might hide the secret room with Queen Nefertiti’s long lost burial spot and the remains of other ancient pharaohs, according to Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities (SCA).

Previous attempts to find Nefertiti's secret tomb resulted in contradictory and incomplete data. As for the new project, led by Italian professor of physics Franco Porcelli, it will finally take the issue off the table, no matter what results it shows.

Nefertiti's Mysteries

In early August 2015, British historian and archaeologist Nicholas Reeves published a sensational article. Based on the HD-images of Tutankhamun's tomb situated in the Valley of the Kings, he claimed that one of its walls may hide a secret chamber of the pharaoh's step-mother, the legendary Nefertiti.

This suggestion attracted the attention of other Egyptologists and the Egyptian authorities, and Dr. Reeves received a permit to examine the tomb's walls with radar and other equipment. In February and March 2016, the press revealed Dr. Reeves' statement that he managed to find the secret room. However, this claim was denied by his opponents, such as former Secretary General of SCA Zahi Hawass.

Subsequently, two groups of scientists from Japan and the US studied the walls of King Tut's tomb using radar, heat sensors and other tools. Japanese physicists confirmed Reeves' calculations and conclusions, while their American colleagues denied them. As a result, the Government of Egypt banned the opening of the tomb until more complete and persuasive reports are made available.

Searching for truth

According to sources from the International Association of Egyptologists, the new project isn't limited to the study of Tut's tomb. The Italian researchers will probe the entire Valley of the Kings, aiming to find the lost tombs of many famous rulers: Amenhotep I, Thutmose II and Ramesses VII, as well as their wives and wives of other pharaohs.

The scientists emphasize that they are using a "non-contact" method, which causes no damage to the walls of tombs and artifacts. New-generation radars cover the entire frequency range, and they will allow the researchers to scan rock and soil at the depth of 10 meters. With such radars the scientists will be able to find things that couldn't be caught by radars produced in the 1980s and the 1990s. The works will result in a three-dimensional map of the Valley of the Kings, which will be then used by archaeologists in search of the secret rooms, tombs and remains.
 
Some new ground-penetrating radar survey seems to support the possibility of hidden chambers in the Tutankhamun burial chamber, a corridor-like space at least:


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'Key evidence:' Is Nefertiti hiding behind the Tutankhamun's tomb?

By CALLUM HOARE - Apr 25, 2020
 
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Hmm some time ago i've stumbled upon an article in which was speculated that that famous mummy was not Tutankhamon's - it was the very Nefteriti that was found, and mask seems to have very feminine outlook?

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Apparently, the letter was "found" that confirms that Howard Carter stole Tutankhamun’s treasure:


Also here on SOTT



Howard Carter stole Tutankhamun’s treasure, new evidence suggests​

100 years after the discovery of the tomb of the boy king, a previously unpublished letter backs up long-held suspicions

Detail from the golden coffin of the boy king Tutankhamun

The new evidence about the discovery of the golden coffin came from a member of Carter’s own team. Photograph: Anadolu/Getty

Dalya Alberge
Sat 13 Aug 2022 14.00 BST


Howard Carter, the archaeologist who discovered Tutankhamun’s tomb in 1922, was long suspected by Egyptians of having helped himself to treasures before the vault was officially opened. But while rumours have swirled for generations, proof has been hard to come by.
Now an accusation that Carter handled property “undoubtedly stolen from the tomb” has emerged in a previously unpublished letter sent to him in 1934 by an eminent British scholar within his own excavation team.

It was written by Sir Alan Gardiner, a leading philologist. Carter had enlisted Gardiner to translate hieroglyphs found in the 3,300-year-old tomb, and later gave him a “whm amulet”, used for offerings to the dead, assuring him that it had not come from the tomb.

Gardiner showed the amulet to Rex Engelbach, the then British director of the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, and was dismayed to be told that it had indeed come from the tomb as it matched other examples – all made from the same mould.


Firing off a letter to Carter, he enclosed Engelbach’s damning verdict, which reads: “The whm amulet you showed me has been undoubtedly stolen from the tomb of Tutankhamun.”

Gardiner told Carter: “I deeply regret having been placed in so awkward a position.”

But he added: “I naturally did not tell Engelbach that I obtained the amulet from you.”

The letters, now in a private collection, will be published in a forthcoming book from Oxford University Press, Tutankhamun and the Tomb that Changed the World

Its author, Bob Brier, a leading Egyptologist at Long Island University, told the Observer that suspicions about Carter helping himself to treasures have long been rumoured: “But now there’s no doubt about it.”

This year marks the 100th anniversary of the discovery by Carter and his financial backer, Lord Carnarvon, of the tomb of the boy king, filled with thrones, chariots and thousands of objects needed in the next world. Over the next decade, Carter supervised their removal and transportation down the Nile to Cairo to be displayed in the Egyptian Museum.

Howard Carter at the entrance to an Egyptian archaeological site in 1923.

Howard Carter at the entrance to an Egyptian archaeological site in 1923. ( Photograph: Hulton Archive/Getty Images

Some Egyptologists have challenged Carter’s claim that the tomb’s treasures had been looted in antique times. In 1947, in an obscure scientific journal in Cairo, Alfred Lucas, one of Carter’s employees, reported that Carter secretly broke open the door to the burial chamber himself, before appearing to reseal it and cover the opening.

Brier said: “They were suspected of having broken into the tomb before its official opening, taking out artefacts, including jewellery, sold after their respective deaths. It’s been known that Carter somehow had items, and people have suspected that he might have helped himself, but these letters are dead proof.

“He certainly never admitted it. We don’t have any official denial. But he was locked out of the tomb for a while by the Egyptian government. There was a lot of bad feeling, and they thought he was stealing things.”

In his book, he writes that the Egyptians were unable to prove their suspicions and were convinced, for example, that Carter had been planning to steal a wooden head of Tutankhamun found in his possession: “The Egyptian authorities had entered and inspected Tomb No. 4, which Carter and the team had used for storage of antiquities, and discovered a beautiful lifesize wooden head of Tutankhamun as a youth.

“It had been packed in a Fortnum & Mason crate but it had never been mentioned in Carter’s records of the finds, nor in the volume describing the contents of the antechamber…. Carter argued that it had simply been discovered in the rubble in the descending passage.”

Brier said: “Later, we do find objects on the Egyptian antiquities market from his estate that clearly came from the tomb.”

Some entered museums, including the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, which announced in 2010 that it would send back to Egypt 19 objects it acquired between the 1920s and 1940s as they “can be attributed with certainty to Tutankhamun’s tomb”.

In his 1992 book on Carter, the late Harry James drew on Carter letters in the Griffith Institute at the University of Oxford, which refer to a row with Gardiner that led to an amulet’s return to Cairo.

The significance of the previously unpublished correspondence is that the accusation came from a leading expert who was actually involved in the first excavation.

Carter would have struggled to challenge Engelbach, who had “too much authority and really knew his stuff”, Brier said.


If I remember correctly from the 911 book / SHOTW, weren´t there also some revealing scrolls about the Jews that disappeared too?

I wonder if this new book will talk about that too...
 
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