H1N1 vaccine: think twice

Hi Pierre,

I was searching around, trying to find some more concrete information about the outbreak in Ukraine; searching through hundreds of blogs and then honing in on multiple NING sights, hoping to come across something other than the same chatter that has been repeated over and over, originating from the same sources.

I came across this sight, and it seems to have a great deal of info that I would think could be relevant to the wonderful blog you started.

_http://concerns.ning.com/

Myself, I will be going back to this sight when I have time, to further investigate... and I am still on the search for first hand accounts from Ukranians.
 
Lúthien, could you put the info about Pandemrix (posts #1 and #2) after Odyssey's post (#27) ? With the current sequence of posts, we don't understand anything when we open the topic... i mean, if someone is looking for some infos about the H1N1 vaccine and opens the topic "H1N1 vaccine: think twice", he's got this as an introduction:

The multilanguages page : http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/Humans/EPAR/prepandrix/prepandrix.htm

Product information (en) : http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/PDFs/EPAR/prepandrix/emea-combined-h822en.pdf

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1. NAME OF THE MEDICINAL PRODUCT

Prepandrix suspension and emulsion for emulsion for injection.
Prepandemic influenza vaccine (H5N1) (split virion, inactivated, adjuvanted)

2. QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE COMPOSITION

After mixing, 1 dose (0.5 ml) contains:

Split influenza virus inactivated, containing antigen* equivalent to:

A/Indonesia/05/2005 (H5N1) like strain used (PR8-IBCDC-RG2) 3.75 micrograms**

* propagated in eggs
** haemagglutinin

AS03 adjuvant composed of squalene (10.69 milligrams), DL-α-tocopherol (11.86 milligrams) and polysorbate 80 (4.86 milligrams)
The suspension and emulsion vials once mixed form a multidose container. See section 6.5 for the number of doses per vial.

Excipients: It contains 5 micrograms thiomersal

So, H5N1 is injected in your body, if you get H1N1, what about recombination ?


If someone can search for links to check this, it would be cool :

DL-α-tocopherol is E vitamin
polysorbate 80 is a carcinogenic
thiomersal is ethylene-mercury

Edit:
Page of the European Public Assessment Report: (multilanguages) http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/Humans/EPAR/pandemrix/pandemrix.htm, in the summary for the public: http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/PDFs/EPAR/pandemrix/H-832-en1.pdf we can read:

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Which measures are being taken to ensure the safe use of Pandemrix?
If Pandemrix is used during a pandemic, the company that makes it will collect information on the safety of the vaccine while it is being used.
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Huh?

It would be better to start the topic with my original post explaining the blog, its goal, if people have infos etc...

Can you do that?

That death of a 8 months foetus is horrible...


Thanks for the link Laurentien and thank you to your wife for the translation.


mkrnhr, the article seems to be related to lots of different vaccines. I will check it out for relevant infos but i'd prefer to focus on the H1N1 vaccine at the moment.


Thank you Lauranimal. The site seems to be a nice source of info. First hand accounts from Ukranians would be great indeed.


:)
 
Pierre said:
Lúthien, could you put the info about Pandemrix (posts #1 and #2) after Odyssey's post (#27) ? With the current sequence of posts, we don't understand anything when we open the topic... i mean, if someone is looking for some infos about the H1N1 vaccine and opens the topic "H1N1 vaccine: think twice", he's got this as an introduction:

The multilanguages page : http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/Humans/EPAR/prepandrix/prepandrix.htm

Product information (en) : http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/PDFs/EPAR/prepandrix/emea-combined-h822en.pdf

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1. NAME OF THE MEDICINAL PRODUCT
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Huh?

It would be better to start the topic with my original post explaining the blog, its goal, if people have infos etc...

Can you do that?
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Hi Pierre, It is done.
I had to edit your first post to remove the Re in the title of the first post. ;D
 
HI Pierre,

I don't know if you have checked this _http://initiative.citoyenne.over-blog.com/ ?
So I'll link it here in case something interesting comes up over there.
FWIW.
 
Thanks for the edit Bohort and thanks for the link to "Initiative citoyenne" Tigersoap: the Polish Health Ministry's speech is very good and honest. She has courage.

On the blog.
 
Hi Pierre,

you might want to check this out:
http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1861%3Apneumonic-plague-reported-in-eastern-poland&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

Can't find other sources for this news though (other sites just carry out the article published on the flucase site)

Wednesday 18th November

PNEUMONIC PLAGUE REPORTED IN EASTERN POLAND

Reports are coming in of people dying of symptoms similar to the pneunomic plague in an Emergency Room in Bialystok in the north east of Poland.

A doctor reported treating three patients with symptoms similar to the pneumonic plague, including burned lungs. One the patients died in his arms. The doctor said that it appeared be a bacterial infection and that no antibiotics worked. He also thought it could be a more virulent strain of the swine flu.

The victims came from small villages close to Bialystok.

Low flying aircraft were heard in the region a few nights ago.

Cases similar to the pneumonic plague have also be reported in Lithuania, close to the Polish border and to Bialystok.

The appearance of something resembling the pneumonic plague in Poland shortly after low flying aircraft made carried out unexplained missions during the night time in the same area has parallels with the recent incident in the Ukraine.

Witnesses reported low flying planes carrying out aerosol spraying shortly before the pneumonic plague was diagnosed in victims a few days later.

The Ukrainian government and WHO moved swiftly to declare the swine flu virus had mutated to become more dangerous and implement martial law.

This is an email from Poland:

My friend a doctor who works in Emergency Room in Bialystok (Eastern North of Poland) called me saying that he had 3 cases of patients with symptoms similar to the pneumonic plague. "If it is h1n1, so it means that it has changed for very virulent form and it kills in matter of hours". One patient died in his hands. I do not know what happened to other two. He is going to inform me how's the situation, but he expects it to get much worse. No antibiotic works for the disease!
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Also:

http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1868%3Aunusual-aircraft-activity-reported-in-poland-and-the-uk-&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

Wed. 18th november

"There seems to be something going on in Derby uk the last 2nights kept me awake last night low flying either helicopters or planes it is earlier tonight started 11ish and it was 3 till 5 am this morning ? we took a picture from our phone tonight i will get my husband to send it to you shortly. it is a helicopter tonight looking over the grounds with lights at first it looked like it was spraying with the tensity of the light .but i do hear another either plane or helicopter flying around its still going ´....ps close to our house at the moment," email from Derby resident.

"Also above Warsaw (now!) There is a report from near Okecie (Airport) that for 25 minuts large propeller plane is flying circles, The plane is quite low. There are no planes departing Okecie at this time. It is the first time our reader heard such a plane for for long time," email from Poland.
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Hi Pierre,

A very interesting interview with a neuro-scientist from the University of British Columbia discussing the dangers of the H1N1 vaccine can be found here: http://canadiansforhealthfreedom.wordpress.com/.

This site is also asking Canadians to report adverse reactions to the vaccine and unfortunately amongst many bad side effects there is also a report of a woman miscarrying her baby after the shot.
 
Hi Manitoban, that's a very good link, thank you, with a very good critical analysis of mainstream news from the author. About the video, since my native language is not english, it's quite difficult to understand clearly what Dr. Christopher Shaw says. But from what i've heard, it seems to be good. I'll put it on the blog.

Hi Luthien, i've heard about this spraying thing. Sounds weird to me. Again it's in Ukraine... in Ukraine, there was this malicious new virus a couple days ago. There was this hysterical "Plague alert". And there are these mysterious planes spraying mysterious things...

In Poland, their neighbour, the Heal ministry clearly says the H1N1 flu is just a common little flu and the vaccine contracts are full of suspicious points (20 suspicious points), she says we don't know the side effects of the vaccine etc etc...

I mean, we have two COMPLETE different way of seeing things. One from Ukraine and one from Poland. And these two countries are neighbours!

In my opininion, the polish health ministry is someone with good common sense and trustable and about Ukraine? i don't know, maybe it's just a lab to create fear, hysteria......
 
Pierre,

I found these on youtube. It is a four part interview with dr. Boyd Haley. I found it very informative.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQYISvsgq6s&feature=related

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbcngSD0K90&feature=related

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v0s8XHFSBo&feature=related

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jwnYTgToiA&feature=related

I hope it is of use to you.
 
Hello Pierre, you may want to have a look at what this guy is doing, he make small daily video about the death and severe reaction after getting the vaccine. Some are interview with the familly of a woman who die after the vaccine and her daugther who is at the hospital. He gatter like you data from around the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieMFhEanVwc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PipMlwQnI88&feature=related
 
Thanks guys for the links.

The more i read about this vaccine, the more i find it completely irrational. All the evidence is here, fully available: doctors speak out, university professors speak out, health ministers speak out... that's crazy, everything showing this vaccine is dangerous is available. But i guess psychopaths on top are totally deaf to this, as usual.


Here's yesterday news about a swiss soldier who reports preparations for forced swine flu vaccination campaing.

_http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2049%3Aswiss-soldier-reports-preaparations-for-forced-swine-flu-vaccination-campaign-underway&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=fr

"A Swiss soldier serving in Bremgarten, Aargau, where military units for disaster management are stationed, has said that medical units are preparing to carry out an operation to give all Swiss soldiers the swine flu jab by force if necessary.

_http://www.kaserne-bremgarten.ch/kaserne/ueberuns.html

The soldier said that a doctor at the base also explained that every swine flu jab has a special needle with a bar code.

The bar code is registered for every person who takes the jab and then sent to the Federal Ministry for Health, the Bundesamt für Gesundheit.

The military doctor said he didn’t know why a special needle was needed but there are many reports of a nanochip in the needle.

The soldier said that the medical troops are preparing for a “serious scenario.”

Every soldier belonging to the medical unit has to prepare to vaccinate every other soldier whether they want to be vaccinated or not in a "worst case scenario".

He said he considered forced vaccination to be inevitable.

The soldier’s supports an earlier report that Swiss soldiers belonging to medical units are being called up and trained for a mass forced vaccination campaign."


Maybe if it becomes mandatory, we will have to take the streets, as Dr Teresa Forcades said.
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Maybe if it becomes mandatory, we will have to take the streets, as Dr Teresa Forcades said.

:)
 
Pierre said:
The more i read about this vaccine, the more i find it completely irrational. All the evidence is here, fully available: doctors speak out, university professors speak out, health ministers speak out... that's crazy, everything showing this vaccine is dangerous is available. But i guess psychopaths on top are totally deaf to this, as usual.
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That's just it - there is so much evidence that the vaccine is unsafe, yet the authorities around the world have no hesitation in pushing it on the public. It still astounds me, even though I should know by now, how few people are willing to even look at the evidence. The "programming" of the populance to blindly accept what they are told appears to be exactly what is happening.

At least there are still some voices speaking out, and blogs like yours where the truth can be found.
 
Another one for you Pierre


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/26/Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Physicians-Rejection-of-the-Injection.aspx
 
Unfortunately this isn't published in English speaking media yet, but according to major Slovenian newspaper Delo, a 77 year old women got cardiac arrest after receiving flu shot. She was reanimated and at the site and hospitalised. Whether this case is related to flu shot is to be investigated.

I'll try to find article in English and let you now.

Source: _http://www.delo.si/clanek/93602

P.S.
Found one in English here, thou on the other side of the World: _http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_content.php?id=1119135&lang=eng_news&cate_img=316.jpg&cate_rss=news_Health
 
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